somewhere around. look it, there they are. there they are with carolers and members of the nypd and fdny. they have presents in their eyes. thinking dad, why did you even do this. more presents this year. that tree behind them is 50 feet tall, 12,000 ornaments. clark griswold would be proud of that tree. there it is. you can see it lit up. what a beauty. that does it for us on "fox business tonight". keep waving kids. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. ♪. elizabeth: okay. breaking news coming into the studio. this is getting serious. a railroad strike now looms in

two weeks time. the unions are rejecting a biden brokered deal. big fight erupts over elon musk. there is easy fix here everything is ignoring. house republicans take aim at special counsel appointed to investigate trump. they have information on this. joining us tonight, congressman mike cad cloud, dustin johnson, beth van duyne, marc thiessen, jon levine, league eagle jon levine and governor george pataki. hunt hunt laptop story, joining "washington post," "new york times," nbc and cnn all authenticated it but msnbc tv pundits repeat echo, mimic the depunked white house narrative before the 2020

election. this is just conspiracy stuff. made up stuff. despite fbi whistle-blowers and government documents. founder of ftx is accused running a fraud bigger than enron. he donated to house democrats on house financial services that were supposed to be grilling him. white house admits, wall street economists are already saying, massive government spending has fueled inflation. a court gives the green

investors are looking at shake up in disney as bob iger returns. disney shares are down 40% this year. streaming losses doubled versus last year. it's a hiring freeze. cost cutting layoffs could follow. potential this, potential nationwide railroad strike. the largest railroad union representings conductors and engineers, they voted down a contract deal brokered by the white house and the president. we are now in the holiday shopping season. this is a serious story. also elon musk edward lawrence at white house with the latest. we have new warnings about china's ticktock and china's spying on u.s. users. edward. reporter: twitter is reinstated formedder president trump. he won't be on twitter anytime soon because he is contractually obligated to truth social but on social media the administration saying they're looking at a adding countries that might have

ties to social media companies. how they can leverage that data. china is one of the countries st believes former president donald trump may have been right about tiktok. senator telling "fox news sunday," tiktok parent company bytedance has too much exposure to the chinese communist party. the chinese company. listen here to the senator from sunday. listen. >> i think donald trump was correct. >> concerned about tiktok's operation in the u.s. data collection, the fbi worried about the being able to scrape other information offense and contacts as well as the app's algorithm able to incite films

or push for certain actions. so far there are no regulations on ticktock. back to you. elizabeth: thank you so much, edward lawrence. from house oversight. >> good to be with you. elizabeth: congressman, a railroad strike, nation's largest union rejecting the biden white house brokered deal. the president may not get involved in the talks again. congressman what do you think? >> congressman cloud. >> we're having a problem with his earpiece. what do you think, mark? >> i don't know if there will be a railroad strike or not. looks like it might g now, as opposed what would have predicted politically.

elizabeth: thanks for that story. president is, is congressman cloud's earpiece gone? >> i think i'm back with you. elizabeth: congressman cloud what is your reaction. trump is back on twitter. what is all the uproar or about. people can mute button on trump or block him. trump on truth social. nothing coming back any way. what is -- media about this? >> exactly you know. extreme left for last couple years. they don't want free speech. won't like free speech. make sure opposing viewpoints are not heard. that is what it takes to win on their side to make sure the american people have control of the entire communications space in order for their ideals to gain merit. free speech is the way to go. that is what this foundation -- elizabeth: mark, i think people now know, you know the outlines of donald trump, what he is

going to say and do. what are your thoughts on cbs? cbs is coming back on twitter, less than 48 hours, no, we're not going to be on twitter. there is security concerns. now they came back on in 48 hours. what is happening over there, mark? what do you think? >> i don't understand the whole liberal freakout over elon musk. controls, every social media platform except tiktok which is controlled by the chinese communist party. we have one social media platform that is controlled by not even a conservative, libertarian speech advocate and they're losing their minds over it. last control twitter, i didn't see them ban the ayatollah khomeni. he is up presses access of his own people to twitter. i didn't say them get rid of vladmir putin's account who espousing propaganda. the dictators of venezuela,

nicholas maduro has a twitter account. taliban has a twitter account. you can go on and on. donald trump on twitter? he is former president of the united states. it is world of free speech. if you disagree with him, millions of people call him out if he has lies on twitter. let free speech reign. elizabeth: you have a mute button or block button. if you don't want to -- dictators kill people, not trump. you know how remarkably idiotic and taking the tedious of self-righteousness my former "forbes" editor used to say, marc. everybody knows trump's story. but the hissy fit. the ratings play they do with always talking about trump, not what you just said, mark. that got democrats saying, maybe robots took over the musk -- bringing back trump. congressman cloud, react to this pundit on msnbc saying it is a

policy choice. should we even let billionaires like musk exist. watch this. >> first of all i think something we often forget as americans is that billionaires exist as a class of people that have much money at our collective pleasure. it's a policy choice to allow some people to accumulate that much money, hundreds of billions of dollars in the case of people of the united states before everybody has the chance to work with dignity. other countries make that choice very differently. elizabeth: how about all the money you made? how about all the money you made, congressman with your nonsense coming out of your mouse that you say on msnbc which is basically saying it is okay for china and russia to oy press their people, you know, just disagree with the other point of view in the u.s., congressman. >> if you look at the things really upset with a lot of people. one of things hasn't gotten a lot of notice last week that elon musk has done with twitter,

exploiting children. they were not really upset. you didn't hear them railing against twitter's allowing for the children. now that elon is taking over, oh, my gosh, donald trump might tweet again. and so this is, it is just crazy. it is from the left. they want to control everything. everyone who has success. again he is advocating for -- [inaudible] awed. built successful companies remere in the world. elizabeth: we got to get to this story. we got to get to this story. we have house gop lawmakers, the new special counsel appointed to investigate trump was a key figure in the irs targeting scandal of under obama targeting non-profits denying their non-profit status. he is taking aim at the special counsel at trump. to you, marc. >> it doesn't, doesn't surprise me at all. the big problem that the justice department has in the eyes of

the american people they have been so politicized from collusion with the clinton campaign on the, on the dossier, mueller probe to all the rest of it. for them to choose somebody who is not squeaky-clean and has no apparent conflicts of interest or anything is just mind-boggling. you know, it is par for the course, the incompetence and bias of this justice department is not to be believed. elizabeth: what marc is saying, congressman, smith and in 2010 unobama ran doj criminal division with lack of integrity. called for a meeting with former irs official lois lerner to talk about how the irs could assist in criminal enforcement against non-profits, but turned around and targeting conservative non-profits. big companies, at&t, chevron, general dynamics, lobbying giving money to lawmakers and

non-profits taking those donations. your word on this, congressman cloud, final word. >> the oversight committee will be so key in next couple years because the american people have lost faith in their government. they know there is a two-tiered justice system. exactly what we discussed about the doj being all over the map. seen the irs, very little accountability there. we're going to get in a lot of these issues when it comes to oversight and begin to work to restore the trust of the american people in their government. elizabeth: got it, congressman cloud, marc thiessen, come back soon. great to have you both on. >> thank you. elizabeth: working on the hunter biden investigation for almost three years now. media and democrats are trying to claim that house gop probe into biden family selling access, this is a new benghazi? that they're ignoring fbi whistle-blowers, government bank records. cbs finally authenticates the hunter biden laptop story. disgraced ftx founder sam

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♪. elizabeth: welcome back. ftx, the disgraced crypto exchange has collapsed. it is in a fraud potentially bigger than enron. it lost nearly four billion dollars last year right as its ceo sam bankman-fried was giving out four billion dollars in loans to cronies out of investor funds including a billion dollar loan for himself while he is gave tens of millions of dollars to democrats in donations. kelly o'grady with more from los angeles. reporter: good evening to you, liz. these court filings really paint a picture of the extent these funds were swirling around and we're further learning while the company lost billions sam bankman-fried reportedly cashed out 300 million of the nearly half a billion he raised from investors in july of last year. new court filing revealing the top 10 investors alone represent roughly a billion 1/2 in claims. nearly 3.1 billion owed to the top 50 creditors.

for creditors hoping to recapture the lost funds outlook is grim. court filings reveal 564 million of less than one billion recovered so far is even liquid. tomorrow is an important day. in addition to the creditors mentioned the bahamian government is seeking a claim to those funds as well that will take center stage while the cries for sam bankman-fried to be extradited grow louder. back to you, liz. elizabeth: kelly, great reporting. welcome back to the show, from house agriculture, dusty johnson. great to have you on again. gave more than four billion dollars in loans a billion to himself, a billion to his crony and they have now almost four billion dollars lost. congressman this thing keeps growing and growing. your committee oversees the market cops ceftc, what are you hear about this? >> participate of the problem we have a murky regulatory environment. it is amazing to me ftx balance

sheet can be filled with cobwebs and magic beans we don't have enough cops on the beat. securities & exchange commission, ftc, a different approach. we need regulatory certainty. now liz there are a number of bills in congress, i'm so frustrated that we have spent more time defunding police, inflation reduction act, green new deal but speaker pelosi is not will to be bring bills i support on the floor. elizabeth: you know, talking, the losses keep growing and growing. what this guy did, congressman, i'm sure you heard the story, he packed the board with former cftc insiders including the former acting chair under obama and a commissioner to lobby, to lobby cftc and sec to weaken oversight. maxine waters -- sam bankman-fried. said bankman-fried donated more

than $300,000 to seven democrats on house financial services. somebody should be grilling them, congressman. even the vice-chair of the house financial services -- [inaudible]. don't worry that maxine waters got any money this is not looking good, congressman. >> this is terrible. you know, large firms getting campaign donations to politicians is nothing new, it is not illegal. in general a 2900-dollar donation here and 2900-dollar donation there is not enough to corrupt the regulatory environment provided you have a regulatory environment. this murky situation we find ourselves in now, this is right for this type of incompetence and fraud, to run rampant. let's be clear sam bankman-fried probably broken some laws. he might well be found guilty in court. he may well do prison time but not like he is getting off

scot-free. the reason we have regulators in the first place to make sure there is segregation of funds. we have disclosure, registration to keep things like this from happening in the first place. elizabeth: but know, nancy pelosi is getting applauded right now while consumers are getting slammed and people are getting hurt. maybe hundreds of billions of dollars of systemic fraud stolen by thieves. i don't know why they applaud the performance because it is bad. hbo's bill maher on this. hear bill maher talk about the mother of ftx, bankman-fried's mother, a law professor, says we don't need personal responsibility. we should not have any personal accountability. all that is bad. listen to this. >> his mother wrote essay in 2013 beyond blame. the philosophy of personal responsibility has ruined criminal justice and academic

policy. it is time to move past blame. on the left -- it comes from academia. >> i agree. it filters down as long as you're on our team, we don't care t has epstein feel, jeffrey epstein. this smells of that. he is one of us. he is on our side. he donates to our causes. we don't need to look too hard into the fact he is a con man. elizabeth: whoa. jeffrey epstein. by the way now democrats are saying republicans got money. i'm seeing 300,000, 400,000 in donations, not nearly 40 million. what do you say to what bill maher just said? >> it is amazing to me sam bankman-fried has been honest about this liz, he said if you know what, if you say the right woke and enlightened things the left will celebrate you, even if you don't have really anything on your balance sheet. so to me this whole idea that he is a con man, not because of his

campaign donations, but because he has sounded the right leftist notes, that is terrifying. we have got to do better. >> sam bankman-fried, he sat down with the biden white house. he sat in between you know, bill clinton and the uk's tony blair. his father taught at mit. the father of his girlfriend taught at mit with sec chair gary gensler who was the chief financial officer of hillary clinton's 2016 race. one person on internet and blogs are writing about things saying this guy shows up wearing a ratty t-shirt, ratty shorts, ratty sneakers, always with the headsets. my new business model to meet with d.c. and venture capitalists? should i only wear a speedo and monocle and ask for a billion dollars? your final word. we got to go. >> we have quit focusing on what people wear and what they say.

good regulations to make sure there is enough there there. your balance sheet canned be cobwebs and magic beans. we need balanced regulation in this space. elizabeth: congressman johnson, come back soon. we love having you on. the white house finally admit, what wall street and economists already said, massive government spending did fuel inflation. the hunter biden investigation is on but msnbc is repeating the debunked white house narrative before the 2020 election this is conspiracy stuff. bank records, fbi whistle-blowers, cbs authenticating the laptop, joining "the times," nbc, cnn. "new york post" columnist jon levine joins us next onance "the evening edit". contestants ready? go! only pay for what you need. jingle: liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.

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is a real story. this is not russian disinformation. there is a real laptop. there is real information on it. there is potentially criminal information on it. as for cbs i'm glad they finally gotten around to authenticating the laptop years after the fact. it was too little, too late, where were the media organizations before the 2020 election when this kind of information been given to the american people and it could have influenced their vote? after the fact it is just not as relevant. better late than never. it has been disappointing to see. elizabeth: now we got cbs, "the washington post," "new york times," nbc and cnn authenticating the laptop that the "new york post" reported on, it was censored before the 2020 election. now msnbc trying to compare the house republicans probing this to benghazi,. >> no way. no way. benghazi was a completely legitimate investigation. there is so much more here. we know hunter biden is under investigation by the u.s.

attorney's office in delaware. we already know one of the sars talks about potential human trafficking. that is one of 150 that that is the first thing that congressman comer said his committee is going to pursue when they take the majority next year. so there is just, there is a lot more meat on these bones. potentially talking about the president of the united states himself being compromised by what is on here. it's a much, much larger story than benghazi. elizabeth: nbc already reported that the biden family made more than $11 million from 2013 under the obama white house through 2018. let's watch democrats, news outlets on this, then you will see congressman james comer. watch this. >> this thing, you know of trying to make this person, hunter biden, into some giant bogeyman in charge after giant conspiracy to get all the money from all the foreign leaders and foreign companies, it just

doesn't land. >> this is a shop-worn approach by the republicans on our committee and it involves, you know, some really extraordinary tools in the kid pack. insinuation, slander, fabrication, disinformation, conspiracy-based theories that take you nowhere. >> the vast majority of americans couldn't pick hunter biden out after lineup. they don't care about him. in a lot of ways he is a tragic figure. this is someone dealing with addiction. dealing with a lot of personal issues. >> they honestly believe hunter biden is just a drug addict that had bad luck and republicans are picking on him. they don't know the extent and national security influence he poses. elizabeth: we have 14 fbi whistle-blowers. 150 suspicious activity reports

filed by u.s. banks. that doesn't sound like conspiracy mongering. if an hunter biden was such a tragic figure with a drug problem why does the president let him jet around on air force 2 doing individuals linked with the chinese and russia communist party all on taxpayers money. >> i feel bad foreviewers of those networks when they saw the clips. they're not being told the truth where they're in bermuda news triangle. god forbid they fun their channel to fox news their head would explode. they're being denied accurate information. one of the things congressman comer stressed at a press conference, powerful press conference, this is not an investigation of hunter biden. this is really an investigation of joe biden, the extent joe biden is involved in his son's overseas business dealings. does that involve compromising him as president of the united states. that is the brass tacks. everything else, forget about

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♪. elizabeth: let's welcome to the show from house small business, it is congressman beth van duyne back with us. happy thanksgiving. it is good to see you again. congressman, we would like your reaction to this, did the white house just admit, yeah, adding the equivalent of france and spain combined to the u.s. economy since 2020 fueled inflation? watch this. >> administration analyze any potential inflationary effects of student loan forgiveness? >> that is a good question you're asking. elizabeth: that's a good question, right? what do you think, congressman? >> i think it's a great question but what's the answer? we all know what the answer is. of course it did. now they're talking about adding

additional depending which one you're talking about, cbo score of 400 billion, or looking penn wharton number of over a trillion dollars, just for this, this excuse of a bill to basically buy votes of students who had been out of college for the last 10 years who still had student debt. >> the president, to your point, to your point the president knew he lacked constitutional authority to unilaterally wipe out student debt. even nancy pelosi said this was overreach but he did it anyway to your to get out the youth vote in the midterms, timing it so the courts would not consider it before the midterms. now the order has been struck down twice in court, as the president knew that would happen. now six states are suing over this. the president may fight this to the supreme court. the economists are already say this helps the rich and not the working class families who did not go to college. >> that is obviously this is an administration completely out of touch. they continue to push this and

again, it is helping people who got a college education who acknowledged signed took on loans and now they don't have to pay it back. for everyone who saved money to put their kids through college, for those people like me, like you, many others, working families, working americans who took out loans and took 10 years to pay them back, all of us who have done that are looking at this saying this is not fair. elizabeth: it is not fair. you know what he ignores? >> we can afford it. we can afford it. elizabeth: you know what he is ignores and what he is ignoring? his family comes home from the thanksgiving table. they will talk about this, the president has been ignoring, and democrats have been ignoring fat cat academic university tuition gouging. universities, in state tuition skyrocketed more than 2,000% since the '70s. the more government subsidized backed universities the more student loans go blow up and more debt has ballooned for them. it is not fair.

they're sitting on honey pot endowments the size of wall street hedge funds. >> i will give you a perfect example. cornell university where i graduated. when i graduated it cost $16,000 to go. now you're paying over 60,000 to go. last year alone they realized 42% in returns on their investments. now they're sitting on a 10 billion-dollar endowment and yet they're using taxpayer dollars to pay for that increase in scholarships. they're using the taxpayer dollars to pay for increase that they continue to charge tuition. it is all going on our backs while they're sitting on $10 billion endowment. >> i want to show this. i want to show this. university presidents make more than governors of many of these states, congresswoman. so it is again, the middle class is getting slammed. you know working families are getting slammed by basically racketeering between these colleges, moving in lockstep to raise average tuition costs like

70,000 a year. you know how that unfair that is to our 20-year-olds, people graduating from college, when you know, it is so wrong. and where is the racketeering antitrust lawsuit against these universities who pay no taxes often. they don't have to pay little to know taxes. they're nonprofits. it is not there final word. >> even better yet those people not able to go to college because they couldn't afford it because of skyrocketing tuition. they couldn't afford it. they're pating for other peoples few wilkes. it is completely unfair. the administration is out of touch. [inaudible]. graduating students that can get a job to be successful. elizabeth: file a racketeering lawsuit against them. file antitrust, anti-monopoly lawsuit against them these universities. what they're doing, how they harm american families is immoral around wrong. we'll have to leave it there. congressman van duyne, great insights in the interview.

we'll have you back on soon. we have this story coming up mower evidence as americans fighting back as states back no bail for major felony charges. the latest suspected hate crime at the gay nightclub in colorado springs. a state attorneys general lawsuit alleging censorship, collusion between the government and social media, it is getting the green light. former deputy assistant attorney general tom dupree next on "the evening edit". ♪.

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what did you think of this story. >> what it means the judge has seen enough to allow the lawsuit to move forward to the next step. the attorney generals who brought the lawsuits, they're not suing social media companies, i don't think the social media companies have done anything wrong. the concern here the biden administration was basically trying to suppress speech. the concern from the attorneys general perspective they were determining what speech americans could make, what speech americans could hear and basically when the speech involves political issues of the day that is a real concern. elizabeth: the white house would have to try to appeal the lawsuit first to the fifth circuit. the fifth circuit is loaded with conservative justices. they may not go along with this. looks like jen psaki and dr. fauci may have to sit for depositions. get your reaction to the missouri attorney general schmidt. he claims they have uncovered a vast censorship network that goes to the highest levels of government. tom, like your reaction to this. watch.

>> here is what we know so far. first of all during covid we know that high-ranking facebook officials were text-messaging the surgeon general of the united states saying hey, we took that down, what more can we do? we also know there was a special portal created for big tech with the government to take down people and you know, have them deplatformed. we know there were weekly censorship meetings. we also know now that high-ranking fbi official, at least one was working with the big tech companies to talk about and to sensor the story, the hunter biden laptop story. this should not be happening in the united states of america. now we're moving forward with depositions. it is important to take a step back and recognize the first amendment protects our fundamental god-given right to express ourselves, state an opinion even somebody else doesn't like it. that is what the first amendment is all about. elizabeth: what do you think, tom? >> he is right on the first point about the first amendment it is one thing the government can do. what private companies appear on

their site, as far as the first amendment goes. the concern here the government was basically choosing winners and losers in the marketplace of speech which is a big no-no. in other words the framers recognizes when government weighs in, limits the views, ideas, arguments citizen can hear that is getting into problematic territory constitutionally speaking. >> what is really problematic is that this lawsuit could lay a roadmap of house republicans doing probes of the biden white house, right? get more information to that? >> we know now the republicans are coming in. i suspect one of the first things they will do put a spotlight on what the biden administration has been doing with control of congress. a lot of investigations wouldn't get much steam w a new sheriff in town things are different. elizabeth: what is open secret in washington, tom? biden officials bully the press and the press falls for it. the biden officials and biden campaign bully the media to censor and not do the hunter biden laptop story claiming it was russian disinformation and it has been

debunked. house gop is saying we want to talk to the 51 intelligence officials who said this, said at the time we have no evidence this is russian disinformation, we'll speculate. final word? >> very consistent what we've seen out of this administration they're going the extra mile, some cases impermissible mile to shape public narrative. elizabeth: it is debunked. tom, come back soon. more evidence americans are fighting back as more states enact no bail for latest felony charges. the latest on a shooter that killed five, injured more than two dozen at a gay nightclub in colorado springs. he already had an arrest record. former new york governor george pataki next on "the evening edit" ncial securit. and lincoln financial solutions will help you get there. as you plan, protect and retire. ♪ in a recent clinical study, patients using salonpas patch reported reductions in pain severity,

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elizabeth: still monitoring official railroad strike that could be on in two week's time, biggest labor unions saying no to biden brokered deal. retailers are in midifle middle of the busiest time of year, they. -- latest from a premium outlet store in new jersey. victim of an organized shoplifting ring, jeff good to see you there. >> this is p premium outlet ball in jackson, new

jersey, scene of a huge bust this month of an organized theft ring based in baltimore, and organize retail theft has exploded up 26% last year and authorities think much more so this year. these are organized rings paying people to go out and steal specific items, they pay them to -- steal stuff then they sell it on internet. who is getting hit by this in target, you know last week, on earnings call saying they lost about 400 million dollars so far this year, extra to theft. anding in a lot of grocery stores and drug stores, cvs now, they are locking up the stuff like shampoo and deodorant, people are just cleaning them out and not paying. they don't have anything to sell, a big problem getting bigger. just as we approach the

christmas shopping season. elizabeth: jeff glock flock, governor george pataki good to see you happy thanksgiving. >> thank you to you too. elizabeth: moving on to suspect in colorado sp springiings shooting in gay nightclub. he was arrested last year but let go, now faces 5 counts of murder and 5 of hate crimes. >> we saw it in colorado. we see in new york. violent criminals, who are arrested over and over and over again, we just had one today someone had been arrested over 30 times, back out on the streets, serving

virtually no jail time, assaulting someone with a pipe today, it is idiocy on part of left wing politicians who believe somehow they are doing the public a benefit without bail and not holding violent criminals behind bars where they belong, it is tragic in particular for minority communities in the inner-city. >> the biggest impact is human life, we're losing more lives, there is more murders in new york city not just new york ci city. it is across the state and now the country, human cost, but economic cost is also astronomical. elizabeth: we have a personal the nightclub in colorado springs able to knock the suspect out, hitting him in the head with one of his own guns, we like your reaction to this. a montage of americans fighting back.

>> he walked into with a shotgun, he pointed it at me, and said give me your money otherwise i would kill you, i had t put my water bottle down, i didn't hesitate to fire the shot. as soon as i fired the shot, he dropped his gun. and he left. >> i went on to the side of my bed, i grab made gun, he kicked door in, i shot him. he r ran off, if i didn't have a weapon i don't know what i would have done, he was big, i wouldn't have been able to fight him off, i never thought i would have to shoot that gun, ever. >> he punched the 7-eleven employees in the head, i saw, that my instincts kicked in. i grabbed him and took him on the ground. >> i didn't have time to be afraid, it was so fast, the most tense i guess, that is

not a good place to pick. >> what do you think? >> first, god bless them for fighting back, thank god they were not injured or killed themselves. but they shouldn't have up to hole the law. we have police for that, democratic left has tied the hands of police, tied hands of law enforcement unless citizens fight back, we'll have no law and order. we need to change the laws, we need to change the politicians who are passing those laws give police and law enforcement the ability to protect ours so fee. elizabeth: mr. pataki thank you for joining us, happy thanksgiving. >> thank you. elizabeth: i am. >> it might be most closely followed media story of all-times, elon musk's wild takeover of twitter, but with