intelligence, what have they been focusing on. >> they have not been paying attention, i applaud mccarthy for stating that. ythat. >> we have legitimate national security concerns, swalwell had a relationship with a chinese spy. there is no reason he should be to highest intelligence committee in congress. elizabeth: congressman greg stuebe thank you. >> thank you for watching, thank you for joining us, you have been watching the "evening edit" on fox business, join us tomorrow night. tom: christmas is coming

early dr. anthony fauci today holding his final press conference before he retires next month, will biden administration ever learn from his mistakes? short answer, no, i'm tom shillue in for kennedy. after almost 3 years, lord fauci is riding into the sunset. every covid policy you hated, he designed it but according fauci himself, he is science, so don't you dare criticized him. >> if you were around at podium, i contradicted those . people who have correct information who take science seriously who don't have strange way out theories about things but who base what they say on evidence and data, need to speak up

more. tom: never mind that almost all of guidance fauci gave us was wrong, or at best ineffective. masks, many say they barely do anything. naturally, liberal white house press corps gave dr. anthony fauci zero push back, but same not spread for biden's press secretary who tried to shut down a reporter who dared ask a question about origins of covid. >> you are taking time out of clock, dr. anthony fauci has to leave in a couple minutes, i'm done, i'm not getting into a back and forth with you. >> go ahead. >> dr. anthony fauci -- >> she is vaccinated -- >> a good question. >> you asked your question, you should allow her to answer. >> jeremy. >> it is not your turn. >> it is not your turn.

>> you need to call on people from across the room, she has a valid question, she is asking about the origin of covid. >> i hear the question. >> dr. anthony fauci is the best person. >> i hear the question, we're not doing this the way you want it, this is a disrepresent. >> i am done, simon i'm done. i'm done with you right now. >> go ahead. >> go ahead. >> so. >> you are taking time away from your colleagues. tom: dr. anthony fauci in a rush. so will this white house ever be straight with american people? will anyone miss lord fauci? joining me now party panel. charlie hurt. >> and juan williams. and 2020 libertarian vice presidential candidate spike cohen. juan. i have not seen you in a while, i miss you, i have a feeling 3 guys are beating up on dr. anthony fauci, you probably liked h him at

the beginning do you still. >> i do. i think 3 guys beat on me. i do like dr. anthony fauci, remember that dr. anthony fauci predates covid. he was around for aids and ebola. he has been around a while. and you know, he really has been in the trenches dealing with you know in my lifetime, yours tom, emergences of kind of biological threat to us that you know, people used to talk about polio or maybe a bad case of the flu. now, you go out and you have to worry about getting covid . he tried his best, he had flaws, he made mistakes, first saying that people don't need mask then they do. it is confusing in a age

where we have a ton of disinformation i will take fauci overall of the social media people, who don't know what they are talking about, except they love to com dump on fauci. >> charlie, i was a round for aids and ebola, think is that a line from sympathy for the devil. >> i think it is, fauci predates covid, this is only person on planet that redates joe biden in washington, it is remarkable. juan is right, he did sort of have his fingerprints all over this what he will be remembered for is covid and everything that he got wrong about covid. and the misery he helped inflict on regular americans, whether the masks or shut downs, and i think it is most interesting that white house so feverish about shutting down any

questions about the origin of the covid, which you know in a sane society would be like, now that it is passed. joe biden said that the pandemic is behind. the most important thing, to get to bottom of how did it happen, so we prevent it what lord fauci has done to prevent anyone from getting to bottom of it and getting to bottom of -- china's role in unleashing in their on the world is astounding it is fitting that in his farewell speech, he got the hosannas from the press, one person that asking questions about origin, gets -- he gets shut down. tom: spike, as a libertarian. you are surprised and shocked at how easily america got rolled on this whole thing. we rolled over and played sick and listened to these public health officials.

officials. officials. official. >> sadly this is a tale at old at time. they use fear porn and death porn to threaten the world. we will give them back when we are done. at no point do you need to question our motives. unfortunately, i wish i were convinced even after seeing devastating affects of long downs and mandates, they did almost nothing to slow or stop the str spread of covid and did did -- damage to americans, i am not convinced they won't do it again, i hope of this is last time we hear from anthony fauci, i don't believe that either, juan is right, this is just a fraction of his history. ly never forget anthony fauci one of main contributors to gay panic of 1980s he kept suggesting that aids could be spread

from gay males to everyone el from casual or close contact, people were fearing gay men, and showing up in haz-mat gear when they were around gay men, a result of dr. anthony fauci history of encouraging people to panic first and let them figure out on their own the panic was unwarned. tom: next topic, headaches for democrats don't end there. they don't understand anything about south southern border crisis, mark kelly of asked his party realize american's frustration with border security, his respond, not close. >> president biden has not visited border in his first two years in office, are democrat avoiding real world emergency. charlie, mark kelly. i don't know if i want to give him credit, at least he is saying that democrats are clueless.

>> funny once you get past an election, and you are reelected for 6 years, it is truth s serum. i don't think that democrats are interested in resolving this crise, this is another crisis they use to their political v advantage, these people they claim to be representing. and they are not really. they are -- they would rather have issue and exploit it for political purposes than solve it. tom: spike, are they ever going to tackle this border issue? >> not until they treat the problems not symptoms, senator kelly was oddly spot on. he said democrat politicians rarely if ever want to talk about and republicans love to about it but they talk

about the symptom, which is at border, that is not the problem this is two-fold, war on drugs created a multitrillion d dollar black market for drug cartel, they ice this p power to cause massive amounts of political violence. you can soft that by the war on drugs. second part is right now it is the hardest it has ever been and harder by i day to come here legally, with a work visa or a sponsor visa, it is harder if you are from those country, if you make it to untenable and unsurvivable to live in their home countries and impossible for them to come legally, there is only one other option left, until they treat those issues.

this is going to keep getting worse. tom: juan, i agree with spike. basically, this is an issue that republicans or democrats could campaign oi think the most right wing right winger would agree. we can increase legal immigration but we have to get the border under control. how do we do that? >> i was going to say i agree with you and spike. to me, one, the full quote from market was, democrats have no idea but republicans prefer to have the issue than solve it. and you know that is just reality. right now we had proposals for immigration reform in this country in 06 under bush. and 13 under obama, 17 or 18 under trump and every time, what happens you get a bipartisan group says here is what we'll do we'll fix

the asee asylum rules and fix what is going on with dreamers and increase security. we'll start to deal with fact that not just mexicans coming over the border but venezuelans and people fleeing from problem, legitimate problems in their own country, they normally would deserve asylum. we will fix it but the congress refuses to act. talk about political inaction. because they prefer to have the issue and wave it around, say, it is the other guy that is to blame. that is just neglect. it is criminal. tom: it is criminal. we'll have to leave it there thank you. >> panel will come back soon. >> president biden's thanksgiving inflation costs americans everything but the kitchen sink, is this year's dinner doomed to be cold pizza and ramen noodles, i will ask scott martin next.

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tom: thanksgiving only two short days away, this year

many americans are struggles to combat high inflation prices at dinner table. average cost of thanksgiving dinner up 20% compared to last year, that is the s staples, stuffing mix, pie crust, and frozen peas, and pay $there $dollars f -- 34 dollars for a duringy. -- turkey. joining me now scott martin. >> and i am a canned peas lover. wow. tom: baby peas my favorite. >> tasty. tom: are people really struggling with food prices? how do you combat that? >> just a bit. god knows i am too with

respect to even paying for crazy prices at fast-food restaurants, i have done over last few months. anywhere you go now. the restaurant prices because of food cost and input cost and transportation costs are through the roof, they are not going down. policies here, like i mentioned demand, stuff in the world, and et cetera there is a problem with food supply with respect to prices coming down, thanksgiving is the jump point and the real feel pain point for folks now to how much they will pay for nutrition and foodstuff forward. tom: i wonder -- the idea is you want to double up. maybe have a couple families. one thing i did great tradition i would visit my parents in arizona, they had the community like old-fashioned thanksgiving with the pilgrims everyone in town gathered around a

big table they bought one dish. then you have to travel to where you are going you have put gases in the tank. >> does everyone bring the same dish, like a potluck does everyone go with a cheap dish. i agree with the multifamily thing. we might go have pizza. some turkeys in short supply where i grew up in ohio. we'll spend 50 bucks at the pizza joint, you can't get away from food prices, pilgrim potluck. you have to think about that into your -- budget that into your daily life. if is probably going higher. tom: even though we are in this i don't know can you call it a recession? we're in tough times. seems that people are traveling, i came back to

new york sunday airport was packed. people getting away for the week, flying out of new york. >> that is awesome you are still able it flying i'm trying to get back on airlines, after many times frustrated with travel. the demand is there, not your pra traditional recession, but tech technically, hello administration we're in a recession. we're not get back to the favorable growth rate of before covid, that is 3 to 4% until the fed stops raising interest rates, i believe that is coming sooner rather than later. tom: right on, thank you, scott. >> see you thanksgiving. tom: meanwhile nation's current economy slump hitting small businesses hard in a new op-ed on the hill.com, my next guest writes, if you are a

merchant or our business depends on a strong holiday season for profits, you better brace yourself. things are just -- there are just too many warning signs you can't ignore. why is that year particularly bleak and what can store owners and customers do? joining me now, small could columnist jean marks, we have a big bah humbug on lower third, why you you such a scrooge. >> not good news, it is -- i talk to a lot of our clients, i talk with a lot of my readers. the national retail federation is -- they are projecting growth of about 4 to 6% in holiday sales, i take that with a grain the salt. but when you dig into numbers actual per capital spend will be down 5%, there

was a study from lending club. say they'd about 15 million shoppers will be on sidelines during this holiday period. and then i don't know, you look at other numbers household wealth dropped and credit card debt is rising. rents are up, like you said. grocery store bills, food prices are up. and some biggest retailers in country, target and walmart, amazon, home depot, they released you know forecast for holiday, it is pretty gloomy. even fedex and ups saying it the be down. looking at the. not a catastrophe, but if you are a sm small business you have to prepare for the fact it will be a rough holiday season, compared to last year's. tom: have some of the big

companies like amazon, have they taken advantage of the new economy. you talk about fedex trucks, i see in my neighborhood more than the fedex truck or the ups truck are the small time driver vans for amazon, delivering goods out of their toyota, did they gobel that up? >> amazon is now probably -- they are biggest you know freight mover in the nation. during the pandemic amazon was buying ships and planes to move product. that is what you can do when you are amazon. even jeff bezos said that if you a consumer you better hunker down a bit not make big purchases, the ceo of amazon who wants you to make a purchase telling you to be careful this next few

months, that is a warning sign, and amazon itself you look at their stock and performance, it slowed down. they are forecast for holiday season is not great, they are not hiring near aim of employees they have in papast years for holiday, same for walmart. tom: so, with this republican victory in congress. is this going to make a difference, republicans bragging they are a friend of the small business, do you think they will be able to step up. >> doe that have enough majority. >> right now with split congress, we head to 2023, that is not stopping the biden administration from doing a lot of things from a regulatory stand point that will have a big impact on a lot of businesses. the department of labor, e, -- very active agencies

worker class case roles for example like the independent contractors. it will make it harder to classify independent contractors as independent contractors. >> always small, big businesses they get money they can t deal with it, thank you, gene. >> bah humbug. tom: coming up cbs latest news outlet to verify hunter biden laptop story, it only took two years, why are so many networks pretends it is not real. >> former president trump explodes at attorney general merrick garland, who just appointed a spe special counsel for trump.

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tom: laptop from hell is back in spotlight, cbs news finally verifying hunter biden laptop two years later. about time. house republicans are vowing investigations. the man who repaired the laptop is demand demand accountability. >> there are two fronts that i see. also get to bottom of what the biden family was up to when joe biden was vice president, we have people in congress now, they have resources and tools, i hope we'll get accountability. tom: and nice beret. republicans have majority, will the big guy face the hot seat. tom: the panel is back, charlie hurt, juan williams and spike cohen.

what do you think? do you want more investigations? >> i also like the beret. i think that it should be fully investigated. i think we have a perfectly good reason for why cbs is just now reporting on this, i have done this before on my social media, you write a post, you for forget to presented it goes in drafts, a year or two people, why didn't you mention it, i think they just forgot. this political timing, releasing it after the elections. but with enough time for next election, they can say that is old news. we have talked about it. we talked about two years after someone found out about it. i think that this speaks to the fact that he is -- the

mr. beret is saying that the fbi kind of you know put pressure on him and made warnings to him, didn't try to get it out to public or fully investigate. it speaks to what i've seen any time fbi comes up. the fbi is an ill li . >> it is illegal, i have been calling for fbi to be abolished. >> i don't know if it is cool now. guy's name john paul mack. a computer repair man his name is mac . >> that is. one of those funny quirks that we'll remember. he was villa fid by media that we're trying to -- and u.s. government officials who were going around lying claiming it was russian disinformation that guy was

some sort of russian stooge to help trump or hurt you know joe biden. it is kind of amazing the timing, i think the realization that republicans voters have handed republicans in congress is soupiina power, they are important issues. they -- this spot just partisan political bickering, these are very important issues that go to heart of our f foreign policy, and this administration has been hijacked and paid for by powerful enemies in the world. paid off biden family to get the kind of foreign policy they want. i can't think of anything more vit vitally important for american people to know about.

tom: juan, i don't know if i would go as far as spike, but i don't trust fbi, someone needs to clean house, what what happened to liberals they usedded to suss pows. >> i don't think. i think they -- that is crazy. ure right. i have written history, boy, liberals could not stand the fbi, hoofer and that gang, you have a trump man heading the fbi at the moment. it is establishment. you have every right to be suspicious. i think this cbs thing, coming so late in the game, other establishment outlets have confirmed that was hunter biden's laptop long ago, that is an appetizer for what to come in congress after republican majority in house, they will have endless investigations of hunter biden's laptop and my

worry is that for all those voters that charlie was talking about they will be disappointed there is just not -- no indictment of the big guy. joe biden. >> that is what i'm worries about too, i would like to indict the big guy, i think they will spend time talking about the stuff on laptop and hookers and cocaine. panel great discussion, charlie, juan and spike. speaking of investigations. >> happy thanksgiving. >> you too. >> down with the fbi. >> thank you. >> good to see you. >> former president trump is lashing out at attorney general garland and doj after ag announced a special countscounsel. coming after trump's 2024 announcement. 45 is not participating, where is this investigation going? here with me now, former

acting attorney general for trump administration matthew whitaker. >> good to be here. tom: what is going on. i don't know about this guy you can tell us. >> i don't know him, we didn't overlap in my two tours at department of justice. we are learning is concerning his wife is a biden donor, made a documentary. tom: surprise. >> on michelle obama. and then he you know has not had -- he had some successes as prosecutor governor mcdonald prosecution, former virginia governor was thrown out. by the supreme court. based on legal theory he used. i think this is somebody that garland tries to get political consolidation.

insulation. i am not sure why garland did this move other than suggest that there is some independent but there is none. tom: how many times have they gone after trump in a major way. >> two impeachments, russian collusion, new york attorney general, and new york city prosecutor. >> these are last 2 you would imagine, one is january 6 he incited this riot and other mar-a-lago papers, which is stronger? >> i think they are weak. i think it is probably not a prosecutable case. standard is going to be doj standard you have to have evidence to prove beunbeyond a reasonable doubt. >> president said go

peacefully and patriotically to the capitol, that is not language of incitement. the records case, this will be -- hyper technicalities what is classified and why. and i'm not sure at the end of the day that department of justice will be able to bring a case to convince a jury. if it a washington d c jury that is only thing i am worried about, he would not get a fair trial. tom: i agree case of inciting a riot is weak. he said peacefully all this stuff. and president is allowed to have a rally, if they didn't riot there then they wouldn't have anything on him. does that matter? all these january 6 defendants some were not in the capitol they walked by peaceful but they are in jail. can they do the same to trump? put him in front of a -- can

they get to a jury? >> i i don't think they will charge him, i don't think there evidence necessary to sprinspring a -- bring a case against a former president. the special counsel has been put in place a little bit for garland to wash his hands of the situation, so he does not have take the political responsibility. i am saying he will need to do, that he is the head. the department of justice it is his decision not the special prosecutor. tom: none of that can stop him from running. are. >> none p precludes president trump from serving another 4 years. >> the investigation make candidate stronger. it happened with clinton in the day, when you investigate someone if makes them more powerful. thank you so much matt. >> you thank you. tom: coming up white house

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republican congressman tom mcclintock. thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. tom: what can congress do? they have a slim majority. do you see action? >> in the new majority on january 3, you have house is where all spending bill start. federal government cannot spend a single dollar unless house say its can. the words, just say no come to mind. tom: couple thins, two of big spending in 48 billion, you have ukraine aid and covid. 10 billion more. i'm wondering, i think that republicans caved too much to the ukraine funding because they have been shoveling money there and on covid. will they get a spine and try to stop the flow of money? >> you know, i supported

initial assistance to ukraine, i felt if they could inflict massive damage on russia that would cause others in world to think twice, we have done that. ukraine is a european security issue. united states given about 54 billion of assistant to ukraine through october 3, and eu 16 billion, they have given about a third of the what we have. that is happening on their doorstep they needs to at most match what we've done. that is my first condition. i believe there needs to be a full audit where our money that gone and we need assurance ukraine relationship with ftx is legitimate. and i think american people would like to be assured

that millions of dollar paid to the bi biden family by ukraine is not influence our foreign policy. i for one would not vote for another dime until those conditions are met. and statement with covid. >> how about covid. >> any more covid funding has to come with iron clad. >> i think there needs to be a disclosure of actual efficacy and risks of the vaccine. tom: and when i was a kid in junior high, i learned like you said, congress makes rules, president only has power to sign or veto a law, but we're living our lives under this umbrella of executive orders, what can congress do about that? how can we reduce the power of executive branch willie willy-nilly making

laws. >> congress has the power of the purse can cut off funds for any of those questionable acts of the executive order. there see growing consensus we need to. separation of powers at the heart of our constitution. that is the mechanism that protects our freedom. the president enforces let but he cannot make it. congress makes the law but cannot enforce it. congress appropriates funds but can not spend them, the president spends funds but cannot appropriate. they are fundamental tenants of good governance that date back to magna carta, . >> you am combine powers. you have a formula for tyranny, that is what in

modern executive power is starting to create. tom: congressman mcclintock. you remind me of my eighth grade social studies teacher thank you so much. >> i take it as a high compliment. tom: coming up, 59 years ago today an a -- bullet killed j john f. kennedy.

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against biden administration. you also brought against the trump administration he delayed it. >>ancy national archives after trump had delayed postpone records. tom: what are they holding on to? what is in there? >> cia has about roughly 10,000 or so documents. fbi has about 6,000 that pertain to mafia. we don't know. there could be some individuals that worked for our government. in mexico say. that were nationals trying to protect their identity. there are people that believe that they are trying to hide the fact that cia may have had a operational interest ins on oswald before. >> kind of he was working undercover. you say they are trying to protect not just undercover

but perhaps mobsters? >> yes. perhaps. >> yeah. >> the fact -- i think -- perhaps kennedy family also, because the kennedy family is also holding back records. tom: from what i understood, bobby kennedy went after the mob, wouldn't they want to clear it up if there was a mob connected. >> you would think, in 1964. people didn't know that bobby was leading effort to getting mob to help assassinate castro. that came out then, and the fact that old manneq -- man kennedy on a contract on him, bobby seized all records in the oval office within an hour after the assassination, the review board tries to get the records, they went out of business in 1998, they had

not gotten them yet. tom: have you ever tried to contact rfk, jr. maybe he wants to help out overturning this? >> he believes records should be released. he has publicly asked for it he sort of like ostracized in his family, he doesn't have much authority to do you know, he is not the trustee of his family. tom: well. all very interesting larry thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. tom: hopefully we'll get it uncovered. >> yes. tom: we can have a last question, i thought we had to go to thing, i saw this. >> i can stretch. your theory, the mob or undercover? in the government. >> i believe carlos marcelo arranged to kill the president and he allegedly confessed. tom: from the jfk movie. tom:

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