ibly16 welcome back, the top stories we are following today, the market is mixed ahead of the release of that move minutes, investors hope for smaller rate hikes to come into looming rail strike fretting supply-chain, what it means for shoppers for the holidays. thanks given travel rush is on as millions of americans head to airports coming up on cavuto coast-to-coast. but first our top story, president biden extending the pause on student loan payments for 6 more months as his debt

relief plan remains blocked in court. lucas tomlinson live in nantucket where the president is with the details. >> reporter: president biden arrived in nantucket at 8:00, staying at dave rubinstein's $29 pad before leaving for washington, biden vowed to take his fight to the supreme court. >> president biden: right now it is on hold because of these lawsuits. we are not going to back down. it isn't fair to ask tens of millions of borrowers eligible to relief to resume their student debt payments while the courts consider the lawsuit. >> reporter: in of wheat senator tom cotton saying biden's perpetual pause of student loan payments has put taxpayers on the hook for billions and those who didn't go to college are the hardest hit. biden breaking his vow in august when he promised only extend the moratorium on

student debt repayment until new year's eve, some point to the senate runoff in georgia as one of the reasons. georgia tech university of georgia, here's biden in august with the promise not to asked in the payments, he did not indicate there was any wiggle room on this. >> president biden: student loan pay pause is going to end, i'm extending it to december 31, 2022. it will end. at that time. it is time for payments to resume. >> reporter: as you mentioned at the top, no breakthrough in the talks, a deal brokered by the biden administration, they have until december '92 every major strike. jackie: let's bring in former toys "r quote us ceo and advisor founder and ceo gerald storch, great to see you. let's talk about what the rail

strike would mean for shoppers as we head into the holiday season, seems to me supply-chain issues would get worse, not better. >> it would be bad and better not happen, so first of all, isn't debt that will ruin christmas in the since the christmas presents won't happen, it is too late for retailers on trains and store shelves in times for christmas, not going to affect your ability to affect toys for johnny or the sweater you're going to get. a lot of products will be affected rapidly including food that could affect your christmas dinner. it won't affect your present but could affect food very rapidly, so much feed for the animals by rail as well. the things we use every day, your automobile industry, very

bad for the supply-chain, very bad for inflation, just reignite the fire in the supply-chain. jackie: the administration put together a tentative deal where they appointed a committee to put together a tentative deal, the thing that is at issue for the rail workers, for the unions is paid sick leave. it appears the tentative deal did boost wages over the next 5 years or so but didn't address the paid sick leave issue and what unions and rail workers are worried about is a republican house will not be friendly or understanding of its needs and that's why there's a need for a strike or to make a bigger statement about this right now, how do you think it shapes out? >> i don't know. it's clear they haven't come to terms, to get past the election, looks like they are going to get past the georgia runoff but that's the end of

the line. they have to come to agreement on this. if not they will strike. it's not anything anybody wants. it's not going, i don't think it is the worst case scenario but might get to the edge of the cliff before we rise up and say this is bad. jackie: we were talking about higher food prices impacting meals hitting the thanksgiving table, prices won't rise overnight, it's for a basket of goods and we haven't seen those prices fall. we are looking at the cpi number. certain areas of the supply-chain have seen a drop where people need it most, food and gas, they are still struggling. >> i don't think inflation is coming down, the level of fed

wants, anytime soon. that the reality. there's still incredible upward price pressure not the least of which, despite the layouts we read about the employment rate means low, the only way to get more people is to pay more and have wage pressure on top of supply-chain pressure and all -- what we are seeing, don't think it will go away anytime soon and at the end of they consumers spend on necessities like food. there was a headline in one major paper that said americans aren't letting inflation interrupter thanksgiving, of course they are not, they are going to buy the turkey and have thanksgiving, that's going to happen but they will spend more money on that and won't have it for other things and we will see that in the rest of the economy like a snake swallowing a rabbit when it bulged out and destroys apparel shopping, holiday shopping, electronic sales and other discretionary purchases when the consumer has to buy the holiday turkey.

jackie: i've talked to people who are not scrubbing on food and gas to get where they need to go but they held back on those discretionary purchases and that is what they are starting to think about and wait to see what the tipping point is when you start to see companies reporting lower earnings and that kind of thing. we see these layoffs happening too. it's a lot to watch. thank you for your insights. >> my pleasure. jackie: the american farm bureau says this year's thanksgiving meal could be the most expensive ever. grady trimble is in illinois. how much are we looking at for the price of the classic thanksgiving turkey dinner being up, roughly the estimate sound like 20%. >> up 20% for grand total of about $64 if feeding 10 people according to the american farm

bureau federation although i would say a lot of people spend a lot more than that and you are certainly going to be spending more no matter what your budget is. we got a turkey, the centerpiece for most families, 16 pound bird this year will cost $29, that's a 21% increase from last year and i will swing around here and do my best bob barker impression and go through all the price hikes starting with the item that has gone up in price the most in the past year, stuffing, a 14 ounce bag of stuffing mix will run you $3.88, nearly a 70% increase from last year, got to have sweet potato casserole with a nice marshmallow on top costing $4, that's 11% more than a year ago. let's see, green beans, pound of those only $2 but if you look at last year's price that a 25% increase and finally i will end with dessert, pumpkin

pie, another must-have in my opinion, $4.28 is the price, 18% increase from last year. i feel like a debbie downer going through all these price hikes so i will end with the one item the farm bureau federation found has gone down in price from a year ago, a 12 ounce bag of fresh cranberries is 14% less expensive this year than last year. most families probably will pay what they have to to have a turkey but i've seen reports, don't know if this is true, of some people eating chicken this thanksgiving and even some opting for peter to save money but most importantly if you are sharing that food was someone you care about, and family and friends, that's what matters, can't put a price on that but you are paying a lot more this thanksgiving even if you are buying chicken or pizza because that cost more too.

jackie: the one thing that went down in price, cranberry sauce, is the thing i don't care for and i differ with you on the pumpkin pie, not my pie choice and the sweet potatoes, not into it but did you cook all of that stuff yourself? >> i take all the credit. our producer, this is his house, he has the table beautifully said, his daughter even did some artwork, a little hand turkey for thanksgiving and he worked hard to prepare this spread for us. i showed up this morning and did the talking. jackie: we will talk to you soon, grady trimble, the dow turning negative, investors awaiting the release of fed minutes, joining me now, delancey strategy president jared leavy, jared, your take on the state of the market, not necessarily today, we are flatlining here, doubt down 30

master cup 24 but in general given the overall state of affairs at the moment i would personally expect markets to be a little more cautious, a little bit more tepid, the dow is over 34,000. >> still a lot of hope out there. moving into the new year, i'm not feeling very bullish or confident. i think the proverbial snowball that is rolling in terms of layoffs and pressure in the job market, the housing market, i don't think people have accepted that and see that snowball or if they do it is smaller than it is. we talked about that but i am reluctant to be. here but i do think the good news is there is still optimism. the american stock exchange is

the place people want to be, that is garnering the support we are seeing here and it is interesting, it is fascinating to me. i think it is lack of realization of data and the optimism the fed will indeed do a 180 and level operates the turn them lower next year which again, not sure about that unless we had recession. jackie: i am a big nerd and i do look at yields and the inversion on the yields curve which usually indicates recession is the steepest we've seen in over 20 years so a lot of times investors will look to the bond market as a read on what is really happening. >> and they should. you bring up a great point. there are so many traditional indicators that are flashing bright red, what are you doing, you look at the housing market and there is statistic in the

housing market people are not siding that's driving me crazy. looking at sold prices, the big gauge saying they are only down 10%, 15% but what they don't talk about of the data that is not reported is the correction the seller makes, they start to list their home at 400,000, drop it down to 350, that correction in the air from the original price, the sales prices and taken into account and that is one of those big red flags, interest rates so high, you talk about the inverted yield curve, there are so many warnings and that is my biggest fear, the housing market. that is the thing that nobody, i shouldn't say nobody is addressing but the fear isn't there that i think should be a little more than it is. jackie: let me go back a step, to the housing market when we come full circle but you talked

about expectation from the markets that jerome powell will maybe raise a little more and start to reverse course and start bringing rates down. i don't see that scenario playing out not because that's my opinion but i see 7. 7% cpi and to get to 2% i feel he's got a long way to go. some of it is already working through the market but hasn't done it clearly enough and if you have an administration that was cooperating with the fed, not going in the opposite direction saying you are raising rates to fix inflation but we will continue to spend, than i would say maybe it would happen sooner and the fed has a little bit of an easier job to do but i don't see that happening and the student loan story is a great example of that. >> i'm looking at my notes and literally what you said is verbatim what i wrote. you got to remember this. the fed, jerome powell specifically is playing a

little game of psychological chess with the marketplace, they have to. his purpose was to instill fear, to let people know how steadfast and resolute they were and they followed through, not only invoking the fear but following through with action and to your point, i believe that they have to trigger a deep recession to get prices to the 2% target. it has to happen. ps, on the thanks giving thing i went to the same marketplace, bought the same ingredients has every year. i had 37% hike in food. you talk about rail strikes, there's not a catalyst i see in the short-term that will help us get places there is prices down unless a painful recession. jackie: you see gas prices and diesel prices coming down can forget the rail strike, that's

an input cost for all these things, that will help, that is something the president doesn't want to do. >> what he could do like you said, as politics makes me crazy, if you just sent start paying january 1st, we will work toward a solution, you would have other people come to the realization this isn't going to happen, slow their spending, maybe go back to work and ease up this artificially tight labor market which it is, all the jobs are available at the low end. it is a lot of conflict, a lot of politics that don't need to be there, i am a little nervous and i'm an optimist but feeling like it is going to get ugly. that's my personal opinion. i hate to say that the day before thanksgiving. jackie: it is a conversation we have to have, to stay informed and stay on top of everything, not necessarily the news you

want to talk about. the market is running contrary to the undertones you and i are talking about so we will see how it plays out but there are headwinds ahead, the rail strike could be a big issue. we are not out of the woods at this point. having said that i wish you and your family a happy thanksgiving. i will be enjoying my expensive turkey with my family as well being grateful for the little things we do have. the ultimatum, republican leader kevin mccarthy just gave dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas for the chaos at the border after this. the first-ever all-electric chevy silverado rst. with a multi-flex midgate for extra storage. and an available 400 miles of range on a full charge. evs for everyone, everywhere. chevrolet

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jackie: resign or face impeachment, that the ultimatum kevin mccarthy is giving alejandro mayorkas over his handling of the border. live at the border in el paso, what's the latest? >> reporter: yesterday we had a chance to catch up with el paso's democratic congresswoman veronica escobar who feels impeaching mayorkas wouldn't solve anything at the southern border, she says it wouldn't even force congress to finally do their job and come together and try to do some sort of border legislation.

she suggesting finding a way to get more border patrol agents back on the front lines to do the jobs they signed up for instead of this you military work they have been forced to do. look at this photo given to us by our border patrol source showing up border patrol agent taking care of a young unaccompanied migrant child who arrived at without his parents, we often see border patrol agents having to act like babysitters like this, look at the second photo, border patrol's tucson sector, another agent having to take care of a young unaccompanied migrant child, 270,000 of these unaccompanied children arrived at the border since president biden took office and it happens with single adults as well. look at this video out of eagle pass. as these groups of migrants cross illegally the border patrol agents have to show up and process them and these border agents are highly trained law enforcement professionals who signed up to go after the smugglers, runners, cartel guys. they've been having to do

paperwork, processing, data entry and el paso congresswoman veronica escobar says that's a problem, she wants more civilians hired to do that job and she says all the solutions republicans put forward haven't worked. >> we tried it the republican way which is addressing migration and immigration as a border only policy. it is expensive and it has been a failure. the plan to impeach the secretary doesn't get us closer to any solutions or offer any tangible results. >> reporter: congresswoman escobar said the way things are going at the border is not fair to anybody, not the migrants, not border patrol. she is willing to speak with kevin mccarthy and house republicans to find some areas of compromise to hopefully get something done at the southern border. she pointed out she would like president biden to come down here and visit the border, something he has never done in his entire life. send it back to you.

jackie: our next guest was part of the gop delegation visiting the border, congas and mark green jointly now. good to be with you and let me ask by your observations of what you saw at the border. >> pretty clear secretary mayorkas says the border is secure, the drug cartels gained operational control by sending mass waves of human people just like your reporter described to target human crossing sites, cvp has to be fooled from the line and that's where the fentanyl comes pouring into the united states, one hundred thousand plus killed last year alone but the cartels are in control of the border, not the department of homeland security.

jackie: some say secretary alejandro mayorkas has to go. president biden who is at the top of the food chain never visited the border. your thoughts on calls to remove the secretary versus as the congresswoman suggested trying to address the problems that are on the ground, doesn't seem you can do one without the other. >> interesting you said republican plans haven't worked, the migrant protection protocols were fantastic. 87% decrease in apprehensions and it was a massive success. this is mayorkas on day one, i disagree with her on that. the solution, you have to close

the border, these massive waves of people from all over the planet. in terms of mayorkas he lied to congress, he has opened, basically opened gates and left them unmanned across the border. we had whistleblowers come to us, there is some fraud and abuse involved with what is going on. everything they are doing is trying to speed people into the country, not dieter and stop migration. of the 16 that's clear from the get go. the border is open and we fed correspondence talking to migrants who said that sent the message loud and clear to them and that is why they are coming. title 42 is set to expire, not sure how it is being enforced by the numbers per say but the fear is once it does expire you have a flood more people. anybody who might have had little bit of a fear will now say this is the time to go.

>> important points. as soon as it was announced the court ruling doing away with title 42 they didn't know the people across the border didn't know there was a stay for 5 weeks so border patrol said they had a spike at one crossing of 1700 additional people because they thought title 42 was off. it goes off in december when this day is over but we will see, they expect an additional 18,000 people a day, sitting in camps on the other side of the rio grande river waiting to expire. that is how bad this is going to be and we can fix it by tying it to fentanyl or something else, not covid. there are other solutions, we have to keep this tool in the toolkit. jackie: you are overwhelmed, cvp agents just overrun, we will see how it goes.

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who are business partners and brand ambassadors of sam bankman-fried. here's what we know. the doj is scrambling to contact those people to try to bring them in as witnesses for the potential case against sam bankman-fried. what will this accomplish? i won't say tom brady got called, people like tom brady that were brand ambassadors are being called right now. not saying anthony scaramucci being called, i am saying people like them, business partners being called by the doj and being asked can you tell us what you know about him and they are looking for motives, to dispel anything or display anything, there are problems with cash deficiencies.

what did he tell investors? right before the thing blue up sam bankman-fried was in the middle east, telling potential investors, did he save money because going public, did he tell them i need money? if you lie, material misstatements, true and false, could be considered securities fraud. that's the case, the brand ambassadors, there's a lot of them. larry david, tom brady, dennis o'leary, down the list, there's a lot of them. you know the partners. there are many more. going through the list of business dealings and exchanges and things of that nature. they have a lot of potential witnesses and looking for

information to put together a case. they want to hear the case. some people want to bring it but it is never a done deal, the us attorney for the southern district appointed by the president, the us attorney, essentially signs off, that is the case of when it happens but they want to bring the case before the end of the year, there's jurisdictional dispute. jackie: there are so many who say why this isn't happening -- charles: if you read his public statements he sound like a knucklehead kid, just get ahead of ourselves, not saying i agree with that but for all the

brilliance this guy had, at some level it looks like a bunch of college kids -- let's start, let's start crypto exchange, don't have control, a very high level intend. they were stealing the money from customer accounts purposely and doing stuff fraudulently with the purpose. it takes time. we should point out the reason there is growing angst among prosecutors to do something, trying to get it done before the end of the year, not that sam bankman-fried is going anywhere, going to argentina or venezuela or russia, they can't

find the money as this is where this could get nasty. jackie: i feel like the rest of it is gone. charles: people compare this to enron, it might be worse than bernie madoff because people got money back from him, the bankruptcy trustee was able to claw back money for those who took ill-gotten gains out and distribute so everybody got something. this might be evaporating, trading losses, can't declare bankruptcy, the new ceo, what his official title is because it is third-party transactions like he went to vegas, heber what all in vegas. it is a crazy situation. as we go into thanksgiving. jackie: we will be watching it

and talking to you. happy thanksgiving, great to see you. millions of americans turning to food banks and food pantries for thanks giving meals but thanks to inflation rising prices are hitting the less fortunate and people who support them. madison allworth live at the food bank for new york city. >> reporter: more americans turning to food banks to get food on the table and some of those folks needed no help before, the food bank of new york city has seen a 93% increase in new visitors this year, not just the visitors that need help, the food banks are working hard to keep up with that demand, heating america, one of the largest distributors across the us, they are seeing more people at their locations than during the economic shutdown in 2020 and 40% of their locations running on a budget deficit, those

costs, whether you are buying it from the grocery store or the food kitchen, seeing cost go up, turkey up 20%, high crust up 26%. we spoke to people waiting in line and this is making their thanksgiving possible. take a listen. >> very hard because things are hard and expensive and things -- it is very important. >> i've been there for 2 hours already. >> staff and volunteers have been in the kitchen since 5 a.m. am preparing 800 meals for this location alone. when it comes to this location they rely on corporate partners to get this food out there and release folks for 800 meals, like the one behind me. jackie: thank you. house republicans pushing for us energy security when they

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jackie: daniel turner issuing a roadmap to boost energy security when they take control of the chamber next year. joining me is texas congressman pat fallon. good afternoon to you, nice to see you. this has been a huge issue in this country since president biden has taken office, energy policy has been turned upside down and americans are suffering the consequences of that. >> one of the things that startled me was the leasing on federal lands is down 97% from the first 19 months of the trump administration which is are markable, president biden on day one canceled the keystone xl pipeline which could now be providing 830,000 barrels of oil a day to this country and canada and in the first week he said no more permits for drilling on federal lands and waters, we are using

fewer anchors of federal lands and waters said then we have since world war ii, that is remarkable. jackie: i covered this for a long time about the investment that needs to be made for these projects to move forward and the long timelines as well, from 6 months to 18 months or 2 years for project, one of the consequences americans are suffering, high prices at the pump is lack of refining capacity, so much demand for gasoline. for example you are not going to get oil companies to refurbish or build more refineries and invest in that part of the industry if you tell them you're trying to make fossil fuels extinct. >> president biden at the democrats, i said on the oversight committee, hearing after hearing they excoriate the american energy sector and demonize it and in the same breath president biden goes over to saudi arabia and beg them to increase production and

he reached out and send overtures to venezuela. why are we dealing with these many putins, just unleash the american energy sector. weather teen one of one 6 one of the things that gets me is with respect to the policy, and the other breath, the american people, big oil is price gouging, manipulating the market, big oil should bring prices down. you understand the industry you know it doesn't work that way and for many years people speculated as to whether big oil is doing that, no proof of any of it, no difference when oil is $25 a barrel or $80 a barrel. >> the more oil is being produced, energy prices will go down and the less being produced they will go up. president biden is doing what he can't throw a wrench into the system. by the way if you are an environmentalist it is safer for the environment and this planet for the americans, our

energy sector to be drilling and exploring because we have a powerful environmental lobby and independent judiciary and expertise in this field. jackie: the process of developing technology over the years as well, we are turning to the dirty producers for resources when we are the cleanest producer in the world at this point. >> over the last 20 years this country reduce emissions more than any other nation and yet china is increasing their emissions by 300% over the same time. the american left protesting china and demanding they get their act together. jackie: you look at opec and opec plus, saudi arabia, it is amazing, and watch the administration put handcuffs on big oil, they see production

fall, watched it rise and felt the impact of that overseas, everybody expected opec and opec plus to take advantage of this moment in time, not sure what the president was confused about. >> what is president biden absolution before the election, we had the strategic petroleum reserve, 695 million barrels in reserve under donald trump, that was an all-time high and now it is at 392 million barrels. it is a 44% reduction. it was a band-aid. jackie: they account that million barrels as production, add it back in which is completely absolutely false and untrue. could to see you this afternoon, wishing you and yours a happy thanksgiving. more coast-to-coast after this.

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jackie: it is one of the busiest travel days of the year. can the airlines avoid the type of meltdowns we saw this last summer. gabe, good to see you. you couldn't pay me to travel on a plane this holiday but many millions of americans have 2 and they will. what are you expecting?

>> they started wrapping up over the past week and sunday and monday comparing numbers between this year and pre-pandemic, beating those 2019 numbers and volume is up. it is pretty solid out there, today would be busy and this sunday united airlines facing the pandemic, over the next few days. jackie: worker shortages, we thought weather problems in high demand for travel. i could see those problems coming together again. >> be weather wise, not only at your destination but where you are flying out of, all those cogs in the wheel will affect your travel on any particular day. a couple things in the travel

industry over the last few months, ramping up hiring in a big way, trimming the fat on their schedules. american airlines getting rid of 30,000 flights. that kind of trimming should alleviate the pressure we are seeing in the early part of the summer. jackie: the planes are crowded, there is not one open seat when people are traveling these days, they pack them on. we will do postmortem of thanksgiving travel after the holiday. the fed minutes, stocks higher out of the fed release for smaller rate hikes to come. more cavuto coast-to-coast after this. ♪ you say goodbye ♪ i say hello ♪ hello hello ♪

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>> we're minutes away from the release of the fed minutes. we're watching stocks edge a little higher on hopes of smaller rate hikes to come. we'll see what the fed tells us. the dow is up 27 points right now. i will send it over to charles payne who takes it next. happy thanksgiving, charles. charles: happy thanks giving, jackie.

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