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about new information you have not seen before on covid origins and vaccines. now dr. fauci is doing a lot of media against all of this. plus white house and federal reserve messaging again baffles on inflation and recession. confusing you and the rest of america. with us senator chuck grassley, congressman jason smith, greg murphy, brian babin, columnist byron york, dr. nicole saphier, former white house senior advise sore mercedes schlapp revelations why politicians are not giving stunning amount of money alleged sam bankman-fried gave in donation t was investor money, including president biden. d.c. is trying to rapidly distance itself from ftx and sam bankman-fried. and senate democrats now, they reportedly plan to probe twitter under elon musk. and twitter founder jack dorsey finally admits twitter workers had too much power on

censorship. where jack dorsey on u.s. intelligence putting the thumbs on the scale for joe biden? more on the florida police officer who collapsed after exposure to the deadly drug fentanyl. why you should be worried about this. even democrat california governor newsom. he is warning the border is about to break. school board parents in virginia, they are ripping into the loudoun county school board after the school superintendent there was indicted for covering up sex assaults of young girls in schools. that the media said did not happen. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show, let's get right at it this is an important topic. we're bringing in from the house gop doctors caucus congressman and dr. greg murphy, and dr. nicole saphier.

great to have you both back on. this is one of the worst things that ever happened to the united states, the pandemic and then the botched shutdowns. republicans now sending out a blitz of interview requests, congressman to dr. fauci officials at the nih, cdc, hhs, fda about the origins of the pandemic, dangerous side-effects of vaccines. what new information will we get on this? what do you think? >> it will be very interesting with dr. fauci who has not been forthcoming during this whole thing. the hard thing about dr. fauci he displayed such arrogance throughout the entire proceeding. he has not taken care of patients for 40 years. patients, sit earnings always have been in the mindset they could trust their doctors. he displayed an air of arrogance throughout the entire thing, that there was no gain of function in the chinese wuhan lab or rory begins did not come from the lab. there is so many mislabeling,

basically lies or fabrications that he has told backed up on that it is just to undermine the trust of the american people in the health care system that we have or the w.h.o. or abroad. so it will be very interesting to see where we get to the bottom of some of these, some of these things and fabrications that have undermined american medicine. elizabeth: we're waiting to hear if the senate republicans will try to pick this up, given looks like what is going on with the senate in terms of control, what is going to happen there. dr. nicole saphier, dr. fauci doing media downplaying all of this. remember when he said he is science, he himself is science? why is he against informed consent, dr. saphier? >> well he certainly does have a high opinion of himself. i didn't appreciate that opinion, i do believe in informed consent especially talking about putting forth vaccine mandates. one thing going on right now we saw governor desantis in florida is putting together a committee to look at what, what the

vaccines essentially has done. has there been harm? what have we seen from that? i want to break it down. nearly 13 billion mrna doses have been delivered in the united states alone. thousands of reported cases of adverse events. there have been some fatalities. when you give treatments and vaccines like this and masks you do expect to see side-effects even severe ones but the biggest issue i have with dr. fauci, dr. wollensky, everyone is the lack of transparency regarding fatalities and injuries as well as unwillingness to consider them moving forward with the recommendations. you even had dr. wollensky in summer of 2021, when you started seeing cases of myocarditis, heart inflammation, dr. wollensky, myocarditis and perry carditis are extremely rare around they are much more common from covid-19 itself. let me tell you something if she read the entire study, new england of journal of medicine

study heart inflammation is more common after covid-19 you would see, yes as a whole all ages and risk factors, that is true but when you start looking at specifically men under the age of 40, especially those who are healthy, there is much higher risk of myocarditis and side-effects when you talk about it as a whole. the fact they continued to put forth their recommendations and talking points, talking about all ages and all risk factors that is dishonest that is wrong, that is why it is important for us to look closer into it. elizabeth: so it's important what the doctor just said. it is about informed consent. congressman, why downplay the dangers of this? by the way, now we've got sound right here. i want you to listen to this, to what the doctor just said. dr. fauci is is criticizing florida governor ron desantis. he wants a statewide grand jury, to probe those who misled on the dangers and side-effects of covid-19 vaccines.

you've going to watch dr. fauci talk about that. then you are going to see a doctor contradict dr. fauci. this doctor has repeatedly testified before the fda he has a inside track what the fda was saying about the dangers of these vaccines. watch this. >> i don't have a clue, kate, what he is asking for. i mean we have a vaccine that unequivocally is highly effective and safe and has saved literally millions of lives. >> mrna shots safe and effective? well, i would say that from the day these were authorized in december there was uncertainty on, if they were going, if the benefits were going to outweigh the harm. there were four people i believe who voted against authorizing it that day, in a climate of when everyone was scared, almost everyone to vote no on that, so there is uncertainty. there was definitely uncertainty

on young people, people with no risk factors. that's clear. there was uncertainty when we thorrized booster. that is clear. we had all the scientists in, nearly all, vote to not thorize it. they voted against authorizing it. then the fda came back, how about just in over 65? then they said yes we'll do it over 65. then the cdc two or three weeks later tries to thorpeize the booster for all ages. scientists, advisory board votes against it. cdc says, let's not listen to these guys. recommends it for all age groups. elizabeth: you hear that? so what dr. fauci said, they're safe is that a lie? this doctor is saying it's a lie? >> well, liz, i think you have to look at this as a perspective. i said since day one i was pro-vaccine and still am pro-vaccine but you have to put it down this is a decision should be made between a patient and a doctor, not a citizen and

a government. with any vaccine you look at risk populations. i think 65 older are at risk populations but i said this for a while. this is indeed confirmed, that the under age 40 individuals, especially males are not at risk unless they have some type immunological problem, diabetes, lymphoma some other things that go on. same thing with the under age 18 children. i adamantly don't believe that should be made by a government. elizabeth: dr. fauci, dr. saphier, doesn't take a ton of research, fda pulls 30% of drugs it approves because of problems. there is a real fail rate at fda approved drugs after coming to market and years and years of testing. if dr. fauci is science, why doesn't he miss to that, when the vaccine was rushed to the market, we have studies pouring in on the side-effects, pfizer moderna vaccines, younger people, females, studies out of germany, demonstrating people are suddenly dying from after their covid-19 vaccines from

myocarditis? >> i think it is pure -- elizabeth: sorry, dr. saphier. >> specifically votes -- >> okay. >> so there has been great benefit to the vaccines but specifically those in the elderly and those with medical comorbidities but the biggest failure today has been universal recommendation for all ages especially as the full vaccine, the boosters and so forth. i can tell you that the fda they have lost two high-ranking members because of the way they handled this. fda, just like the cdc needs to be gutted out and replaced with people who are non-partisan won't cave to pressure from the white house. elizabeth: in the future, congressman, we get vaccines talk about the side-effects. get warnings about you know about their use. maybe your final word congressman murphy? is that coming down the road, will there be a warning on vaccines? >> it goes back to the principle of informed consent we talked about earlier. this is something, there is no

medicine, good lord, aspirin has side-effects, there is no medicine that does not. it is informed consent. vaccines for at risk populations. that is where you have to start -- elizabeth: final word, dr. fauci in the bully pulpit. we don't have any idea of long-term effects we're in the first inning of this could take a decade before it comes out. >> they added warnings on labels of vaccines specifically the myocarditis. the cdc coming forth with universal recommendations, trickle-down effect of mandates. until you take away power enforcing these mandates those box warnings don't mean anything. elizabeth: got it. great interview. you guys are terrific. merry christmas, happy holidays to you both. have you on soon. >> merry christmas. elizabeth: washington is backpedaling away as fast as it can crypto alleged fraudster sam bankman-fried. the hot debate why d.c. is not

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♪. elizabeth: welcome back to the show the ranking member of senate judiciary he is senator chuck grassley. pleasure to see you again, senator. merry christmas to you and yours. >> thank you for having me. elizabeth: good to see you. senator, what do you make of these new reports that senate democrats now plan to counter house gop probes into hunter biden with probes into big tech's role in disinformation and twitter under elon musk? what do you think? >> well, obviously they're very embarrassed with what elon musk has made public and isn't it a everything secret and then somebody like elon musk comes along and make, showing how thee violating free speech rights, how they're getting private business to help them?

so they want to have these hearings you're asking me about to kind of take attention away from what he is doing, this transparency is he bringing about, showing how people were conspiring to influence the last election and, you know the stuff that i have said about political bias of the fbi. this is just another example of their political bias, working with people at twitter to keep the hunter biden stuff off of the press or off of the public's mind and not even make it public until well after the election. even when i was investigating it at that very time, we didn't get anything from the press that johnson and i had exposed about hunter biden. and then the "new york post" gets it. it can't even get on twitter and facebook like it is supposed to.

in other words, just consider the people the united states of america, smart enough to listen to everything and make up their own decision. elizabeth: senator, to your point, twitter's former ceo jack dorsey now admits twitter workers ultimately had too much power to manipulate content on twitter but the twitter files show he was part of an internal senior group at twitter that was putting their thumb on the scale for democrats and joe biden. hiring former fbi workers, censoring conservatives. the question is why didn't dorsey release the twitter files before musk bought twitter? >> obviously he was part of the conspiracy and you're the head of a corporation. either you run the corporation or the corporation runs you and if he didn't know anything about it and i don't believe he did know anything about it, but if he didn't he should have. elizabeth: you know the twitter files show the fbi meeting with twitter on a weekly basis before the 2020 election. along with the office of the director of national security and homeland security.

so were you surprised to hear that, that they were running defense for joe biden and the biden family, cashing in on biden's government job? they were reportedly debriefing twitter executives, that hunter biden would be the target of a hack and leak operation when the fbi had possession of the hunter biden laptop nearly a year before, months before the "new york post" story. it raises questions whether the fbi actively sought to undercut and discredit information they had already authenticated? >> yeah. well remember one thing, johnson and i put out a report a month before the post story about hunter biden but getting back to what you're asking me about, it just proves the political bias and how integrated it was. so you're asking me am i surprised? i shouldn't probably be surprised but i'm surprised that they did it in such a sophisticated way of regular meetings and actually, talking to each other, you know, as opposed to to using intermediary

so it shouldn't be found out. that is how brazen they thought their actions could be, they would never be caught. thank god for people like elon musk. elon musk. elizabeth: good to see you, senator. we love having you on. always have such admiration for you. merry christmas to you and yours. come back soon. >> thank you very much. >> okay, president biden, he again touts the 40-year high inflation and lashes out over questions about his age. inflation never broke above 3.2% for the decade prior to when he took office. this too, washington is now backpedaling, running away fast as they can away from crypto fraudster sam bankman-fried. new revelations on the stunning amount of dirty money he gave to politicians that was stolen investor money. why the numbers may be wildly understated. and why is president biden silent about giving back his own donations? byron york next. >> i think they were smitten

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fraudster sam bankman-fried that he was using his companies as his own personal pig by gang personal donations to buy influence in d.c. and real estate in bahamas and much more. kelly o'grady has the break down for us. kelly. reporter: good to see you, liz. sam bankman-fried running the company as quote his personal fiefdom everyone wants to know where the money went? we've been checking this into weeks, talking to sources, pulling blockchain ledger records. here is what i found. a lot of value was lost in poor margin trading and crypto industry in the past year but this is also a case of runaway spending funded by customer assets. we traced them both ftx and alameda spent millions on venture investments. they spent on celebrity endorsement deals. they were reportedly planning to pay taylor swift $100 million. that gives you a ballpark range. sam bankman-fried faces 115

years in prison if convicted on all charges. he is getting a taste of that now being held in bahamian jail cell without bail until his february 8 extradition hearing. i was reading up on a study from 2019 that shares the jail he is in is infested with maggots and rats, a far cry from his bahamian mansion. back to you. elizabeth: that sounds awful. kelly o'grady, thank you very much. byron york, from "the washington examiner." good to see you, too, and merry christmas. byron, d.c. is rapidly distancing itself trying to backpedal from sbf. critics say sbf, bankman-fried certainly impacted midterms of democrats, what do you think? he gave $70 million overall, more than half to democrats? >> we know for a fact how much money he gave for democrats, that he gave a lot, at least 40 million to democrats. he has said he also gave a lot of money to republicans but they were in dark money donations. they are not publicly disclosed.

that is going on his word. he accused for a lot of crimes at the moment. i'm just not sure. as far as what washington, d.c. is doing, absolutely they're running. i think what you will see especially among democrats talking about this case as the need for new laws to regulate a business like a crypto exchange as opposed to simply enforcing the laws that we have now. you remember that, at the hearing yesterday, the bankruptcy ceo of ftx said this was old-fashioned embezzlement. we have laws against that. elizabeth: yeah, so just grow a spine. i mean the thing is to your point we don't know the total amount that he gave because of the dark money donations, it could be you know stated. it could be way higher. the white house will not say whether president biden will give back his donations. sbf was biden's second biggest individual donor behind michael

bloomberg. watch this. >> president received campaign donations from him and many democrat and republicans as well. will the president return that donation? will he call on all politicians who got donations that may have come from customer money to return funds. >> you asked me two questions. you asked me will he return the donations. you asked me his donation. first part i'm covered by the hatch act here. i am limited what i can say. i can't talk to political contributions or anything related to that. i cannot speak about it from here. >> do you think those should be returned to investors and customers who used ftx as opposed to donating now that he is accused of fraud? >> absolutely. i don't fault individuals who were, who donated those funds because i don't know if they had full transparency at that time. elizabeth: let me back up. the hatch act does not restrict the press secretary talking about it. it restricts campaigning for a candidate while on the job in the government. shouldn't the president give the money back?

>> she would really, really like to answer but she just can't. of course the president should give the money back. i think a lot of democratic politicians in particular are going to be pressured to do this. and remember, we're going to learn more about these alleged crimes as this case goes on and perhaps when we know more about it perhaps they will finally start to give some of the money back but right now he is the second biggest democratic donor after george soros who is the long-time leader in such things. so he is a very, very big figure in the democratic party. elizabeth: byron, we would like you to listen to the fireworks at the senate hearing about the collapse of ftx. watch this. >> since bernie madoff's ponzi scheme imploded in the wake of financial crisis it captured the nation's attention. hike madoff ftx and alameda owe enormous sums to sophisticated

investors like venture capital and hedge funds like madoff they owe a lot of money to regular people. however the carnage at ftx is far more widespread. madoff defrauded 3thousand counts. ftx claims 32 times that amount in the u.s. alone. according to ftx some 1.2 million retail traders -- >> crypto doesn't get a free pass because it is shiny and bright or because venture capitalists think it might change the world or tv campaigns are witty and featured famous people. elizabeth: byron, were you wondering why was he suddenly arrested before he could testify before congress about what he was doing, get him under oath so you could use that in the case against him? hes was all about effective altruism, phony woke capitalism people use their investor money for your political pet causes. that is what is happening in d.c.? were you surprised he was arrested right before he was to testify. >> i was surprised not the least

of which because he was about to give a lot of testimony under oath that could be used in any prosecution against him. and then that whole thing was precluded by arresting him the night before. certainly members of the house financial services committee, both democrats and republicans really wanted to question him about that you know in that first thing you just played points up an interesting issue in this whole ftx story. we haven't seen a lot of individual stories of victims in this case, of people who put their money into this exchange thinking that it was safe. they should have known better but we haven't seen a lot of stories about people who have actually been victims in this case. elizabeth: so did the biden white house want to shut this down because it's embarrassing because of all the influence this guy had in d.c. buying and paying for you know, former cftc commissioners to sit on the board, packing the board with influence in d.c. maxine waters blowing kisses,

rise in esgs or environmental social governance investing where states are now hitting back, saying we got to protect our state pension retirement money. texas, florida, north carolina, from what is going on with woke capitalism. did the biden administration do you think shut this down. >> they would love to see it go away but he is such an important figure in the democratic party, he was accepted on the world stage, i mean you saw these pictures of events that he held and he is sitting on the stage with bill clinton and tony blair, former president of the united states, former prime minister of england and this fraud guy in a t-shirt and shorts. it was absolutely astonishing that he was able to use this money to gain entrance into those circles. elizabeth: byron york, thank you so much. it grace it to see you. merry christmas. happy holidays to you. >> to you. elizabeth: el paso, texas is asking for help from the military. they need to use military bases. they want $10 million from fema due to avalanche of

border-crossers as biden gets rid of trump's title 42 next weekend. even democrat california governor gavin newsom he is warning the border, quote is about to break. president biden is again touts the 40-year high in inflation and lashes out over questions about his age. congressman jason smith here next on "the evening edit".

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elizabeth: okay. look who is back with us, ranking member of house budget, he is congressman jason smith. always a pleasure to see you again, sir. show what happened with the markets. the stocks taking a hit. the federal reserve talking being more aggressive raising rates. it raised rates, congressman, half a point. it is now talking rates could end next year at 5.25. whatwhat is mystifying fed chair powell said no one can see recession coming. watch this, watch. >> no. i don't say that. i mean, i would say this, you know, to the extent we need to

keep rates higher keep them there longer inflation moves up higher and higher, i think that narrows the runaway but lower inflation reads, if they persist in time could certainly make it more possible. so i just, i don't think anyone knows whether we're going to have a recession or not and if we do, whether it is going to be a deep one or not. it is just, it is not knowable. elizabeth: congressman, it is not knowable? we have got major ceos from fedex to goldman sachs to jpmorgan chase, walmart, buckling up saying recession is coming. should we fire all of, half of the federal reserve workers who are supposed to forecast recession? >> i'll tell you, our economy is not in a good position. you just talked to any average day american, put food on their table, clothes on their backs, gas in their car. the congressional budget office in the first month of joe biden's term we would not

raise interest rates until the year 2024. then of course joe biden, chuck schumer, nancy pelosi went on a spending spree of $10 trillion of new spending to our ledgers and that created the inflation crisis, the highest inflation in 40 years. that's why you've seen the interest rate, the, rates being, being raised seven times now. so we're in uncharted territory without a doubt, liz. elizabeth: the more they spend, the more we're on roller coaster with the fed raising rates. you know what i mean? the president is touting inflation rate at 7.1%. that is still at a 40-year high. inflation never broke above 3.2% from 2011 to april of 2021. double the prior decade. he is struggling to get traction with voters. he is still underwater with disapproval ratings at about 52% plus. and now he is getting angry when people ask him about his age.

that is what "politico" is reporting. >> liz, inflation has gone up 14.3% since joe biden took the oath of office. inflation was 1.4% when he was sworn into office. it is because of his reckless spending. just because of the increase of inflation to 14.3% since he has been in office, every american has basically lost two months of their paycheck over the last two years. that is what americans are feeling. that is what, they're worried about. maybe they're not so worried about his age. they're worried about someone who doesn't look at reality. for the longest time joe biden didn't think inflation was real. he said it was transitory. then he said it was because of covid. then he said it was because of putin. now whose fault is it? it is his fault. finally they're starting to realize that. elizabeth: congressman, we're finding out from a new hbo max documentary that nancy pelosi told president obama the reason

democrats lost the house in 2010 was because, white men get in a mood when they do not have jobs. i mean, white men were in a mood like anyone else who would be if they lost their jobs. she has a taxpayer-funded job. why is she talking about anyone getting moody? it is a little exclusionary only referenced white men getting upset? >> it is ridiculous but let me tell you, she, she got fired by the american people. she lost her job as speaker of the house. the american people spoke a few months, a few weeks ago saying that they were tired of her out of control policies that is making their lives more difficult every day. so nancy pelosi will be fired on january 2nd, in 20 days she will be no longer speaker of the house because the american people knows direction she was leading this country was the wrong direction. elizabeth: it was one of the most polarized, one of the most vicious tenures critics say in

d.c. people who lived under it, even moderate democrats are saying it was really tough to be under her stewardship, even though being lauded by the media. there is a backstory there. congressman smith, pleasure to have you on. merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas, liz. elizabeth: this story coming up, school board parent in virginia ripping into the loudoun county school board after its superintendent was indicted for covering up sexual assaults in public schools, the story media downplayed as not real, didn't happen. plus el paso, texas asks the military for help. they asked the white house for military bases. and $10 million from fema. why? an avalanche of border-crossers. congressman brian babin on "the evening edit" next. listen to americans weighing in giving their end of the year grades for the president. watch. >> what is lower than an f? >> probably f minus. >> i give him a solid b. >> f minus. >> worries about other peoples

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elizabeth: just days to go until trump's title 42 border policy goes away. there are new bipartisan calls for the president to act, to stop the collapse at the border. fox news peter doocy at the white house with more. peter? >> liz, if they're is a plan for post-title 42 officials here are not even sharing it with democrats in the senate because a group of democrats in the senate wrote to alejandro mayorkas asking for the post-title 42 plan by december 1st and he never wrote back. bipartisan concern is because as more migrants cross illegally, the u.s. has been using title 42 more and more and more. so another bipartisan letter reads, dhs is almost completely

reliant on title 42 to control migration from mexico and the northern triangle. the vast majority of mexicans, guatemalans, hondurans and salvadorians encountered by u.s. border patrol along the border in october 2022 were expelled under title title 42 rather than processed under title 8. officials are warning of a big problem if this administration doesn't do something. often times there is going to be a big policy announcement this white house wants to talk about they will signal coming a few days in advance but so far nothing like that on the schedule. liz? elizabeth: interesting. great reporting as always from peter doocy. good to see you, peter. we have breaking news coming in. let's bring in the co-chair of the house border security caucus, congressman brian babin. congressman, this news, biden's justice department just filed a lawsuit, it is now suing arizona to stop arizona from using shipping containers to build a makeshift wall on its own along the border.

boarder pa actually says the border is in a dire state of collapse. what is the strategy here? why is the white house suing? >> white house is so hypocritical liz. by the way good to be with you. outrageously the federal government won't do their job on the southern border in arizona, texas, new mexico or california, and so here we have, our constitution, liz, specifically says that, in article iv, section 4, article i section 10 in the event of an invasion the federal government will protect us. they're not doing this. so we have to protect ourselves. this is a, this is a self-defense, you know, plan by the, the governor in arizona and, and to put these shipping containers there to block the wall that should have been built. we in congress, we, we authorized, we appropriated the

money. the materials are down there. they quit. >> this could be a constitutional fight because arizona has standing if they declare under the constitution an invasion, right? because they could countersue and fight back. we're going to stay on the story. we've are showing, showing harrowing video after police officer, courtney banik, congressman, collapsed in orlando, florida, at routine traffic stop. she was exposed to a minimal amount of fentanyl. she was choking. why isn't the white house hair on fire about our cops being exposed to that? >> they're putting the, they're plan of bringing in millions and millions of illegal aliens on the taxpayer's dime and forgetting about their own american citizens. overrun schools, hospitals, police officers drugs killing over, 100,000 americans a year, crime wave out of control and here they are, going to sue

arizona. we have the same problem here in the great state of texas. our governor and our state government has done all we can in operation lonestar. we need to start picking up, you know, the tempo and start really taking these people, holding them, detaining them and then removing them. the federal government won't do their job, liz. we have to protect ourselves. elizabeth: president biden has yet to visit the border. he visited arizona. didn't have any plans to stop at the border because he said quote, there are more important things going on. last fiscal, this fiscal year, the past one, 2.4 million migrant apprehensions, highest ever in recorded history. we're talking 600,000 "gotaways." that is about 2,000 got-aways a day. so you, el paso is getting hit with a avalanche. they want fema help, $10 million, they want military

bases to deal with the flood of illegal immigrants. >> well the scariest number you mentioned are the got-aways. at this rate we'll have 3 or 4 million got-aways at the end of the president's term. those got-aways are people don't want to be caught. these are the terrorists. these are the gang members. these are the child molesters, rapists murders, folks intent on harming american citizens and this, this, this president and alejandro mayorkas as dhs secretary simply will not do their jobs. he needs to be impeached. the american people need to be protected. >> congressman babin, thank you so much. good to see you. next story coming up, school board parents in virginia ripping into the school board there loudon county after its superintendent was indicted for covering up sex assaults in public schools. mercedes schlapp joins us next. this is not happening, not going

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elizabeth: joining us now, former white house senior adviser mercedes schlapp. mercedes, merry christmas to you and yours. >> merry christmas to you and your family. elizabeth: okay, let's get to this: yesterday school board

parents exploded. remember they were investigated as domestic terrorists under the biden white house? now dozens of parents were ripping into the loudoun county, virginia, school meeting after a grand jury indicted the superintendent scott ziegler for allegedly covering up sexual assaults of girls in schools. what was your reaction? >> well, i live close to loud. en county, and we were ground zero when it came to what we saw happening in loudoun county and the impact it had in that gubernatorial election where governor glenn youngkin won. why? because these parents, especially in loudoun county, were so upset by these not only the superintendent, but the school administrators who did not listen to these parents, especially the one parent that brought up issue about his daughter and the sexual assault incident that happened in the bathroom, and then little action

was done. there was mismanagement, lack of coordination, incompetence. all of this being released from this grand jury report. and then the suspect doesn't even get fired until after the grand jury report was released. so it just shows how much they tried to protect these school officials, they tried to protect the superintendent despite the fact that that this incident pretty much happened close to over a year ago, and yet little action was done to really take action immediately to remove the superintendent especially after it caused such a stress in that a school and how they went after the parent of the daughter who, where the sexual assault incident occurred. elizabeth: yeah. so, you know, two young girls were sexually assaulted by the same male teenager that the school superintendent approved, signed off on him being moved to another school in the same district. the second girl was almost

suffocated, almost strangled to death. but then you have new york times and the media saying this isn't a story, you have the biden white house saying these parents are domestic terrorists when their children are getting sexual assaulted and almost killed. scott smith, the father you mentioned, he was arrested in may of last year after confronting the school board about it, and he's now saying more people should be fired. what do you say to all of this? >> right. i've got to say the left is more concerned about protecting gender ideology and creating this gender confusion than they are protecting the innocent innocence of our -- the innocence of our children. it is a disgrace, what the left has done to push this debate into going into what you call these intimate spaces, these bathrooms issues where they're allowing biological men to be in girls' locker rooms and in these bathrooms. that is the simply unacceptable, and it's why you're seeing governor glenn youngkin and his team at the department of

education move forward and push these school standards of basically saying, look, we want you, the school boards, to adopt these school standards that are going to make sure that we create these the, protect these intimate spaces or these safe spaces so that only biological girls can be in that -- elizabeth: but, mercedes -- >> now we have to see what the school board -- elizabeth: but the same school board members are there in loudoun county, both democrats and republicans, right? there can't be any six -- fixes to the problem if they're still there. you've got five seconds. okay. >> we're seeing more republicans engage, and the parents are not going to let up. they're going to make sure that their kids are protected. elizabeth: thank you, liz macdonald, have a good night. kennedy: hello, hump night. where did covid come from? who's responsible for the cover-up and what role could people lik