john levine at "new york post" saying former fbi officials working in upper ranks of twitter to suppress the story. final word. >> yes, there were over a dozen former fbi. employees embedded in twitter an 2016 election, same for facebook and google. elizabeth: we'll stay on it, thank you for watching, join us again tomorrow night. kennedy: hello lamb chop, welcome to a fantastic new week, latest installment of twitter files dropping, shows fbi had a very cozy relationship with the social media giant. and bureau bulliesed company to doing its bidding, is it

possible to hold anyone accountable? i hope so, but how? as you know, twitter new ceo musk has been releases the so-called twitter files over last 3 weeks, today's comdump was part certain, we're learning that fbi was heavily involved with fbi hunter biden laptop story. we learned that feds tried to discredit the story before "new york post" published the blockbuster 2020 reports that showed hunter had shady be partners in the world and jobs he was well paid for and unqualified to perform, and the big guy, you know, president biden. allegedly getting kickbacks from some of hunter biden's deals, the fbi did everything they could to bury the story. including convincing twitter executives to ban it. and this is important to

remember, it happened two weeks, two weeks, give me two, utah, before the 2020 election, yesterday, sunday morning future house leader, he will be speaker of the house. unless the real angry conservatives haveb walker he said fbi had splaiining to do. >> if you look fbi is every day we learn something more. they became and could private companies become a political arm of them. to go after individuals, with no repercussions for individuals that know what is happening it raises more questions. kennedy: yeah, a lot more. and someone will get beaten with the business end of that political arm. and you know, the fbi was pressuring a private company to their dirty work that is straight out of east germany in 80s, like the ladies with the beards, there will be hearings, is that enough?

joining me now, he has been writing and reporting on this think he is the nation's foremost expert. on the twitter files, reason editor features of things in the world, and best substack i've seen on cocktails. cocktails of suderman. suderman computer man, welcome to the show, happy holidays. >> thank you. kennedy: yes. here is my problem. federal government got really good at spying on americans for a few decades. they realized that social media companies were really, really good at -- private information on individuals and corporations and some well-known individuals. and someone decided that it should be an unholy marriage. what is most problematic for you, s suderman. >> there is a loot to be concerned bi am a first

amendment guy, social media companies have the right to kick people off their platform for any reason, they don't want to have them. they have the right to restrict posts and information. you don't have the right to post on twitter if whoever it is 2 owns twitter doesn't want you to post that is the first amendment. that is how that works, but something very different when a government official, a law enforcement potential or tomorrows in -- official or officials in particular say, hey, twitter. you should take down these posts, hey twitter this is not true, but it is true, to find out fbi is wrong. and what is really remarkable about this, i think what stood odd to me out of all of this twitter actually told fbi, you know we're not seeing a lot of

foreign disinformation here. we're seeing a little bit of troll activity. because it is twitter, there are trolls on twitter. but not a lot of foreign disinformation operation, and fbi said, oh, wait you are wrong, twitter knows what is so twitter, fbi said you are wrong, and pointed to reports in mainstream media organizations saying there is a lot of disinformation on social media, do unwhere the reports were sourced to? anonymous fbi agents, they were -- insepting the ideas. >> we saw that with the p p dossier. that is what was used to obtain search warrants on this trum of trump campaign operatives, after 2016 a lot

changed, there were executives on twitter saying we have very little russian dis2 disinformation, fbi knew about lap top and contents, they knew it was dropped off and they knew what was on there was true but they wanted to prejudice social media executives, so as soon as they saw the laptop story, they said no this is the disinformation 245 that we were told about beforehand, you have members of biden campaign, regularly in contact with the twitter safety executives, saying, you can remove this post and shadow ban this person, they did that. >> yes, i don't know that there are any real obvious

first amendment violations, but you have to be concerned when this stuff happens in private, it has been happening between fbi and twitter, and you have to assume facebook and other social media organizations as well. also need to be concerned, sometimes in public, you go to 2021, and biden administration was warning social media companies, don't allow misinformation about the covid vaccine to spread or misinformation about the pandemic to spread, they would say, maybe not at the same time, but in separate interviews, well, we're reviewing laws like section t 230. that is first amendment for internet, you have politicians, threatening private companies, if they

don't do their bidding, that say problem at any time, but especially problematic when it comes to speech. kennedy: that was the threat. getting them to do their bidding. all awful, you are wonderful, peter suderman computer man thank you. >> thank you. kennedy: twitter users have spoken, they want elon musk out as ceo, he posted a poll on his twitter page asking if he should step down at chief, 57.5% said yes, musk said, i will abide by the results, after a crazy week of up and towns of twitters. adding a new policy preventing users from sharing 1 links to other

social media platforms, that was deleted. this is all over the map, we are meeting party panel to discuss. jason meister is back. and former senior adviser to clintons, fox news contributor mark penn and olivia rondeau is back in city of angels. angelic, she is, i will 12start with you, jason, musk is not dumb, he probably knows that people will say, yes, they want him out as ceo, why did he do that? do you think he has a ceo in the wings? >> i do. i believe that elon musk already had chosen who his ceo successor would be prior to the poll. i think he knew the results

would be the outcome that we're seeing, at end of the day musk created a situation whereby he created a free speech f platform, i think that is what you are seeing play out in twitter files, at the end of the day, regardless of who the ceo is in the end, the twitter files will show us our intelligence community colludeed and coerced with big tech to sensor every day americans at well, and carried out a sophisticated disinformation operation leading up to 2020 election, torpedo the hunter biden laptop story that implicated his father joe biden in a massive pay-to-play scandal involving russia, ukraine and china. kennedy: all right. so, my worry is, all this

coming to light. facebook and tb tb instagram, they do not want this kind of microscope on their company. you know, my worry is that at other places, there are former law enforcement, that are embedded in those companies that back-channel with current law enforcement and administration? >> i think that actually this story is seeping out, even though it may not be covered everywhere. my most recent poll showed 64% now believe that at twitter there was a political censorship operation boy toking on in the last election. most people believe that their first amendment rights were violated. 74% believe if they were violated, there should be criminal prosecution. i think that story is seeping out.

i was surprised to find that musk is actually pretty well liked, he now the person on the statement, standing up on the deep state to the big powerful forces, even if this is controversy here, is seen as perc person who is standing up here and gaining a good popular support, even if h they think he should be more cref chef above every day. kennedy: make that is what happens. he has other companies to run, they have to make money. do you think, olivia, is there any comparison to be made between edward snowed snowden and elon musk, we

had no concept of h how the federal government was spying on us. is there a connection between the two in your mind? >> sure, i see some p parallels to are fair to snowden, i think he did more and sacrificed more to expose what is going on. but i do agree with this assessment musk may need to slow down and take more focus on big picture rather than the day-to-day stuff. i'm of the opinion he should have some control over the day-to-day stuff, because, there is nobody at twitter who cares about the child sex abuse april material on there there and on going lawsuit with two john does who videos were released.

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figured out that masks don't work. should we ignore the cdc and follow see science instead, joining me now, author of covid, politics fear, power of science, dr. marc siegel welcome back. >> kennedy, they left out two big steps with masks before they shoved in mandates, they didn't study whether they actually work against these subvariants that are flying around. like light speed, second, they didn't tell anyone how to wear them or what masks to wear. the virtue signal ors who wore them on their chin and then sneezed at you. kennedy: it was spreading viruses, but, people who were wearing masks, they actually sort of compromised

their own immune systems because they were not interfacing with garden variety microbes they normally would, when actually makes you stronger, that is one reason that people are flattened by so many viruses, right now. and my problem is, there are a lot of viruses and bad things, but that is not a pandemic. and mask mask mandate were an overreaching response to a global pandemic. rsv does not meet that threshold, we should not be treat a as subjects who need that man supply chaining. >> with all measures of lockdowns and shut downs and keeping people. away proviruses, it saw that

virus it said what the hell is this, it takes a couple days to sp respond. it cause so much fatigue,s when word mandate is rolled out, next time someone mandates something you to know listen. kennedy: you will not do it we're primed for, we're primed for another pandemic because we don't have the answers to the first one. that means we don't have the tools to prevent the next one. but there is a big difference between wearing a mask if you want to, if you feel it will protect and you a mask mandate. which could be harmful for the reasons you just stated and rsv has peaked as it not? >> yes, rsv on its way down. and because it spread by the way, people got it and they got immunity, and some

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kennedy: fox business alert, breaking news supreme court justice roberts issuing a temporary pause on ending title 42 after 19 republican lead states asked top court for an emergency state, title 42 set to expire in two days. border states overwhelmed by waves of people looking to stake their claim here, texas governor abbott said once title 42 is gone, they

will get worse. governor? >> whether covid or some other issue, when you have people coming from across the globe without knowing their health status that almost by definition is a public health risk, there serve reason to keep that in place, if courts do not intervene and put a halt to removal of title 42, it will be chaos. kennedy: well saying halt it for a while, white house press secretary pierre said that the end does not mean border is open. [ laughter ] yeah it does. doubters are contributing to misinformation. okay. >> i want to be clear, the fact that removal the title 42 does not mean that border is open. anyone who suggests otherwise is doing work of the smugglers who are spreading misinformation, the border is not open, i want to be clear about that, because, we were doing the smuggler's job if we spread

misinformation. kennedy: you are doing the smuggler's job. you are -- your inaction, you have to the smuggler's blues, the crises is here, why doesn't that administration take any responsibility at all? she just reads from a notebook while he does nothing, party panel is back. jason, mark and olivia. jason, i will start with you. we have to take this seriously. as a country, to decide what kind of country we are, not just a republican country or a democracy country,ry love people from other places, we have a horrible system this puts people at risk who want to come here because they don't know if they will change. based on who is in power and who issued what executive order. >> that is right. once title 42 is lifted. we will witness the greatest illegal immigration event in

this nation's history, it is not going to be pretty, at the end of the day, this is deliberate, administration tore down every single protection that trump administration put in hand and handed them -- place and handed them a well protected border, these policies are deliberate and result is a humanitarian crisis of biblical proportions our immigration system cannot handle what is coming and administration and his handlers know that, i believe that is planned. strategic and pushed on to american people, they are flooding our country c with millions of illegal immigrants or electorate is getting flooded, it has to stop. >> i don't know if there is a they, i think people are coming here, where they are coming from there are not opportunities, there are people who are worried, if they don't come now they

will not be able to come at all. there is so much chaos and contusion, same on executive branch and congress for not doing more to stream line the system, mark, there are conversations to be had been betweens -- republicans and democrats particularly those in border states, you can talk about what it means to be a gue guested -- guest worker, number of people our systems can support, it is not this number. >> well, you are seeing now this issue really bubble up in politics, during the election the administration was like we don't want to talk about this issue, but now it is forced on to the public scene. most people oppose immigration policy, they think that border has been opened. most interestingly, i asked

people in a poll, how many people do you think are crossing the border, 90% way underestimated it. only about 10% got that it was in millions, if the real numbers actually come out, you will see public opinion really create pressure, and you will see people like eric adams mayor of new new york city, saying these numbers door high, we can't absorb them by the time they get to new york. kennedy: that is mayor of new york city, talking about 30,000 people, how does he think that mayor of el paso feels with 50 thousands a day. regardless of whether you think that human beings are good or bad, i think the former. this is too much. olivia you cannot have open immigration and a welfare state, they are not

compatible. >> it is heartbreaking, a humanitarian crisis, you are right. you can't offer people benefits and lie to people, you are right that jean-pierre in white house and biden are giving the smugglers, ammo, saying hey, we have sanctuary cities, title 42 is coming down come on in, and executive branch making excuses saying the courts held it up, there is great there is a pause on it now biden has signed over 100 executive orders already, he throws executive power willy-nilly on the economy and debt, why not do something to protect our border, i am baffled by it. kennedy: it is okay to to that, you are the president, that is one of your jobs. if you have a slightly different philosophy, than your predecessor, he is not in power any more, they have a congressional power, they could have done it, obama could have done it, and

biden vehicle done it now the kids are suffering and cartels who are enriched. another problem that is getting worse, if you live in a big city you have sign a rise in homelessness, biden administration claims to be swooping in to the rescue, announcing a plan to cut homelessness by 25 percent in two years, it will probably grow 30% in two years, that is a 5% increase, that is great. one city that is in crisis and has been for some time is los angeles. democrat mayor bass, has an idea to help. put homeless people in h hotels. >> you can get 95% of the people houses, they will go, it takes a while, this is getting people to move on their own, but after the person leaves, sanitation is have to be there. no question about it. this is not coercing people

or ticketing people or en or inc incarcerates people. kennedy: the moving people part that has to happen, they don't want to do this, jason, will it work? >> i don't think it will work. i think that with going to the previous segment with wide open borders we're flooding our democrat run cities with drugs. overwhelming our homeless shelters and putting more people on the streets. and i don't think -- look phoenix alone had up 35% in homelessness last year. i don't think that they will accomplish these goals, they great goals but not with these types of policies we need to soak secure the border and protect the border, we will look more and more like europe where resources are thin, and everyone will suffer.

>> you are faced with with what we don't'. mark. i don't know that they necessarily go ahead and hand it -- the thing is homelessness and immigration have in common the more money you throw at it somehow problems get worse. >> well, first, i'm glad to see the administration is making it a priority, devoted resources to it i think as you point out, question is, will they be wisely used or wasted. they are wasted when they encouraging homelessness and they will be wisely me spent if they deal with the underlying problems, the reasons that someone is homeless, giving them a home is not what it is about, you could spend endless amount of money they have tried in new york city, you have to have programs that do get at the root of homelessness. to solve the problem.

and that the open question. will to be wisely spent or just to hotel owners. >> you are right. and it has to be sort of a approach. to have law enforcement social services, drug and alcohol rehabilitation, a lot of times, those departments don't talk to each other. a lot of people are -- agencies are flushed with cash, for homelessness but, it is not making a dent. >> yes, sounds like a great deal for hotel owners for the people who are going to be sanitation crew and in charge of removing homeless people and putting them in hotels there say reasons why pist homeless people tend to like to be in shelters, they turn to the encampment type things we

see on streets, i'm not opposed to taking people off the street, however, i think what the new mayor has to do, i speak as a new residence here, focus on policies that start at the home. the reasons that people are homeless is not because their house sprouted legs and walked away, there were steps to gets there and there are steps we could take to attack war on drugs, it has attacked drug addicts. there are things to put more fathers back in home and create healthier families, there are better ways to tackle this issue. kennedy: hard to have some of those conversations it is difficult, it also if you are going to truly heal and empower people have to have discussions, we try that every night, jason, mark and olivia thank you. >> great job.

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kennedy: hi, i was writing things down with my orange sharpie, could vladimir putin be put out to pastor, a new report claims he is surrounded by vultures, that seems natural. close aides, potentially plotting a coup against him, he claimed his foreign minister is drinking because he is depressed, join the party and putin is suffering mayor health problems --

major wh health problems, is this a turning point? who would rule the resskies if vladimir putin were replaced, joining me, bryan suits, has vladimir putin coup protected himself? >> if he co coup proof? he is, this is what he came up doing, the soviet union may have collapsed it was shell around the kgb, the kgb state made sure they repainting the barbed wire, there is nothing like that in america, it existed for

the kgbgb . on december 31 -- boris had to spend more time with his family. you know for someone to go from lu lieutenant colonel in kgb to vice mayor, he is too smart for any american report, he knows damn well, that knives are out for him, he always has been, that is why he surrounded himself with sharks. >> do they sharks say, he is so flawed right now, the draft is a bad idea, economy sucks. he is sick, and dying. are the guys in line, worse than putin? >> absolutely.

and there is one element that might have had it up to here that is the army, by the kgb knows this, they know the guys they have to look out for are those in uniform, putin has surrounded himself by leg humpers in uniform and he enriched them, that is a powerful motivator as let of death, i think that health thing is most realistic, it is clear he has become frail in last 11 months, more frail than he was, very less shirt less horseback riding. >> no hockey playing, he would play before russian hockey hunk. and score 65 goals but no more. >> he would throw a 30 burg on him, i think he knows better than anyone, it his number is called high will

call his number, and put someone in place, like him, kgb world take the fsb would taking in less, unlike n 1991 and 90 and prior there is no more kgb in army that is a deal that army had, when i was embedded with russian army in bosnia there was no more kgb guy in the corner, army does not like the way putin has treated them, go back to animal farm, the big horse, major that is the army, the bigger communist. >> i love animal farm, we should have a reading we invite our grinneds, suits thank you and merry christmas see new portland. kennedy: you too. kennedy: topical storm is next, stay put butter cup.

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