larry: save america, stop ending, end the prosperity killers, and elizabeth macdonald is up next. elizabeth: thank you, president is giving a speech later in the week on what you are talking about. good to see you. larry: good luck. elizabeth: a new twist on dc 's carelessness with the nation's secrets, not just about mike pence and his new classified documents problem, e-mail that reads

like hunter biden got a classified briefing to make money in ukraine. if he got this information from his father, that is the against the law, with us senator ron johnson, rick perry. and former u.s. treasury official, and andrew mccarthy. grgrover norquist and guy benson. the former fbi agent is charged with colluding with a top russian. >> white house is angry, house g.o.p. has a new drive to stop the president from misusing u.s. oil reserves as his own political slush fund to help his polls. >> more on flip flops on covid-19 boosters.

and kathy hochul with a attack on unvaccinated health workers, and florida governor ron desantis has a new blueprint to help teachers stand up against unions and ex school boards and the speaky we congress could reform social security and medicare that will hurt you, i am elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. elizabeth: welcome. stocks ending lower, it was seesaw act, microsoft reported ar the bell, slowest sales growth in over 6 years, worry z about u.s. and global recession. doj joineds suing google. look at the price act there. top officials in ukraine including deputy defense minister, removed amid a growing corruption scandal

linked to wartime supplies. now, aishah hasnie in dc with more on the president's mishandling of u.s. secrets. reporter: senator cruz is calling for this doj probe to widen toward another university. but first, reaction coming in after it was found out that former vice president mike pence also had classified documents discovered in his indiana home. that news has, rattled capitol hill. >> it seems like everyone that is in the white house needs to check their closets and corvettes. i have no idea how people end up with classified

documents. not just folks at white house, president biden walked away with sensitive materials when he was senator, that is mystifying the democrats and republicans, those files should never leave a secure room called, a skiff. >> the process we go through, is so elaborate and careful to review any of the documents, i can't understand how any individual senator could take possession of classified documents, let alone remove it. iit is unthinkable. reporter: senator cruz now turning his attention to university of delaware. it is time for the doj to investigate. director of national intelligence, is now expected to brief members of the senate intelligence committee tomorrow afternoon. this could be the first briefing on any of the

document dramas since the mar-a-lago raid. there is a growing number of folks here who feel this is a systemic problem. and chuck schumer told reporters that democrats are working on a legislative solution. elizabeth: greater reporting thank you. >> senator ron johnson is here. your reaction to the story that classified documents were found in former vice president pence's home in indiana? >> i agree with senator durbin for those of us who serve in congress we go to the skiff, we have to leave all our electronics behind, people are there asking you to leave them, we check out the classified material, we make sure it is checked back in. it never leaves the skiff. for i guess, the securities to be so lacks in white

house both democrat and republican is -- it is catching us off guard. elizabeth: senator. >> there are differences in president trump's case, he had the capability to declassify information, vice president pence, wanted to have this looked into. and it seems like you could have your office packed up and moved over. i have a lot of records as well. i think with president biden, senate records and vice president records, and i think what is interesting is e-mail now reported about on april 13, 3 days before hunter biden business partner archer mote with vice president biden in the white house before he goes to ukraine, it is just laying out all of the enginformation on we

would get in secure briefing. elizabeth: the e-mail from hunter biden a laptop, miranda divine found it. it was about how to cash in and make money off ukraine, it classified information about ukraine, with 22 detailed bullet points. wouldn't it be against the law to have this information, when you read the e-mail it sounds like a classified briefing. >> well, if it was classified, yes. what i can say about what i read, this is more details than what we receive when we get overseas in scene setters. it lays out is how the bidens profited off their family name. they were you know, hu hunter was laying it out for

devin, who was meeting with his father and officials from burisma, you pay us millions of dollars, this is the kind of information you will have access to because of our connection to the vice president, it is sleazy and corrupt, but this one, grassley and i have been warning american public against for two years but mainstream media has ignored. ignor. jim: to your point. hunter's e-mail was about -- is it striking they are trying to profit off of foreign energy deals. including with china and ukr ukraine. >> it is sleazy. and striking as well. i have to point out, there were news reports stories written by biden inc, well before he was vice president and before president. media just ignored it, that shows how corrupt and

complicit most of mainstream media is. elizabeth: you and senator grassley asking for white house to release visitor logs. what about the senate records at university of delaware? >> this probably has to be looked into, this investigation is widening. i think that way that president has handled this and his team, it is bizarre. if you know you have classified documents, you should do what mike pence did, let's search to see if i might have something inadvertently in my possession. >> a garage is not a skiff. "new york times" and "washington post" reporting that biden team pushed to keep this quiet before midterms. so it would not trigger the

president's special counsel criminal probe. but president said he has no regrets they were in his garage. nancy pelosi is now going negative to a biden 2024 race. >> is this democrat, finally throws this president, who deserves it finally throwing him under the bus. they may have made that calculation. let's get rid of joe biden this way, i don't know, i don't understand their political calculations, but sport is bizarre. elizabeth: -- the story is bizarre. elizabeth: looking at the timeline. hunter biden and biden family deal making, that intersectioned and sinks up with classified document records. >> it does, that is what is

so interesting about the april 13, 2014 e-mail, all of these things happened with bu burisma. they happened in 2014, if is way more than a coincidence. elizabeth: thank you senator ron johnson. >> now joining us, andrew mccarthy. what was your reaction to what we were talking about? >> i think it is a couple different stories, the burisma thing, i think. is the biggest scandal in the country is the millions of dollars from actors who were connected to foreign regimes that went into the biden family coffers, cashing in on joe biden a plate influence, i have been saying for years, i salute

when senator johnson and grassley have done in reporting on this. if this was a republican, forget about trump, i know trump makes everyone's head explode, but if it was pick your republican, this would be the only story we would be talking about and it would not have taken two years, there would have gone something decisive done. elizabeth: donald trump jr. doing this, selling u.s. natural gas millions of -- tons to china out of louisiana, let's move on. your reaction to fbi former top spy hinte hunter. what is your reaction? >> the interesting thing is

the contortions that fbi and government did with respect to him. i wrote about this in my book about the russia-gate stuff. in 2016, they tried to flip him and the person who was urging that was steele. the guy who provided information from the dossier that fbi used in the fisa warrants. they knew when they used steele he was working for darapaska and trying to flip him against putin. he said what are you talking about. they were not interested in him any more. now we have the guy who was the head of foreign counter intelligence in new york. who i guess was at one point to be investigating darapaska is now working for him, it speaks poorly of

bureau at a time they can't afford, that i said, and i think you should split off of foreign counter intelligence mission and let the fbi go back tolying a police agency again, they are not a good intelligence agency, we find every time we look. once you be become an intendgence . >> that and what happened. >> critics say this is a time that -- never bought the russian collusion story. this was trump and his campaign were working with russia to hack hillary and dnc e-mail. that was fully debunked. now. your word on, senator johnson and i were talking about the e-mail that hide hunter biden sent to archer with detailed bullet points on how to make money

in ukraine. including off of ukrainian energy deals, this was a week before then vice president biden was going to ukraine to meet with the prime minister, is this a violation of federal law, if hunter biden is getting classified u.s. secrets for the biden family to make money off that. >> even if not to make money or classified it would be a violation of lay. law, i would point out an under reported i think about search warrant that fbi did on biden's residence in wilmington, they also took notes out, indicative of the idea that biden was taking notes of the classified briefings and documents. elizabeth: that is the fbi in on it. you they is probable cause, is that what your thought is. elizabeth: >> no, i'm saying, if they had -- if they have evidence he has classified documents in his residents, they have

probable cause to look in other. >> thank you. my pleasure. elizabeth: more on this story. fade fated confusing new flip flop on covid-19 boosters, growing anger over democrat new york governor kathy hochul, with her new attack on unvaccinated health workers. and white house anger, over the house g.o.p. new drive to stop the president from misusing the u.s. strategic oil reserve, as his own political slush fund when his polls go down, we have rick perry next on "the evening edit."

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elizabeth: white house press secretary karine jean-pierre faced major push back on twitter and social media. for claiming house republicans want to raise your gas prices. reporter: white house is blaming rises gas prices on last month's winter storm, china's reopening and now republicans. >> house republicans are using their narrow majority to force the american people to pay higher gas prices justs big oil companies are amassing record profits.

reporter: white house press secretary karine jean-pierre referencing a bill that house is expected to vote this week, it would limit president biden's ability to use the strategic petroleum reserve to try to lower gas price like he did last year, unless he comes up with a plan to increase oil and gas production on federal lands, she said a vote is a vote for higher gas prices, republicans disagree. >> let's face it. the intense of strategic petroleum reserve is not to score political points, that that is what this administration used it for. >> national average of gas 35 cents up in last month. >> thank you grady. look who is here. welcome to the show rick perry former u.s. energy secretary, a pleasure to

welcome out the show. >> thank you. elizabeth: what did you make after that report. >> social media is having a field day with the white house press secretary claiming the republicans who want to raise gas prices. >> well, the white house treasury secretary is almost daily -- press secretary is almost a daily person who gets fun off, that is what it is. the point is, the petroleum res reserve is there for major disasters, hurricanes or something of that sort. this president is using it for his own political purposes, americans know it, trying to impact gas prices by using the strategic petroleum reserve, which is inapatrolin--

inappropriate. hr21 said if you use it you have to replenish it with our lands. massive reserves, that are put off the table and we went use them because of this president and his leftist climate agendad supporters out there. we need to have some balance in this. american people want to do their part to impact the climate in a positive way. american natural gas is one of the ways to do that. but this president makes it really hard for us to produce that on one hand. and then on the other hand, opening up petroleum reserve to use it for his political purposes, i think that hr21, the american competitive institution we signed a letter talking about how

support of hr21 and its use and a balance, if you will, which makes sense, if you go into the strategic petroleum reserve, then you have to balance it by allowing for production on the public lands. >> why would the president veto that bill? >> well, the playing to the left again, any time you say, with this president, that you are going to produce fossil fuels, left screams bloody murder. and i hope americans will wake up. america produces the cle cleanest energy in the world, when you reduce america's ability to produce, you are opening the market to countries that may not have our best interest in mind and are producing fossil fuels not as clean burning at america this d administration hates fos

fossil fuel and nuclear energy produced in clean reactors, they have a lot of explaining to do to american people, i am telling where is is fixing to hit, electric rates are fixing to go through the roof because of the policies that biden administration is put in place. i can't wait for the white house press secretary to point a finger at whoever that culprit will be it is not joe biden you know. elizabeth: rick perry, great to have you. >> we love the cowboy boots behind you, they yours? >> my collection of young, cowboys and cowgirls boots, 2 or 3-year-old you have to to be wear those in texas. elizabeth: they are great. i wish i had a pair. rick thank you. >> you are watching fox business network. school officials are angry because florida

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elizabeth: dr. jeanette and and guy benson, this new outrage, democrat new york governor cac kathy hochul refuses to retire new york health care workers who are fierp fired for not being vaccinated. we have a hospital worker shortage. every hospital in new york

has a nursing shortage. >> i think that, that position from governor kathy hochul made have made sense 2 1/2 years ago when we didn't know as much as we know now it has not made sense for a while and makes snow sense right now, that is not how the vaccines work. they don't stop transmission, there are people who need care, and to have people fired in the first place for declining to get the shot was a huge mistake to continue doubling down on this error is mind-blowing and typical i say in places like new york. elizabeth: dr., what do you? >> >> yes. absolutely, i agree with guy. i was happy to see with our military, they will have the opportunity to be reinstated. hopefully back pay. we are at a time, there is such a shortage of hospital workers and clinic workers. i experience it myself, it is challenging, if you don't have a vaccine, that can

stop you from picking up disease and stop you from spreading the disease, then it doesn't make sense to mandate it, it should be option, there are other viruses and diseases, like for example measles and mumps and polio. that is not the case here. what happened to follow the science? elizabeth: what -- this story also, fda proposing a once a year covid shot like a flu shot. the cdc and fda pushed repeated booster shots to counter threats from new variants for all americans 12 and over. >> and the younger you get the less likely you you are to follow through, there was a recommendation to get young kids vaccinated, very few parents took the government up on that, they did not believe it was in the best interest of their children, children overwhelmingly thank good to

have been safe from covid, i'll defer on medical science to the doctor, fda can recommend whatever it likes, and people can make decisions for themselves to flu shot and covid shot, often i guess depending on their risk factors. this also under scores the folly of mandates. elizabeth: now taking immunity works, natural immunity, the scientists say many americans have sufficient preexisting immunity because of vaccination, infection or a combination of both. >> yes, that is correct. natural immunity is so protective and important, we have to acknowledge that. vaccine immunity can help, but neither one are long-term -- or last forever, they are good to have. i think it is purpose that we have a protocol when it

comes to vaccines it is reasonable to recommend it once a year, like we do the flu shot. but we have to stay focused on the most vul vulnerable, the seniors, those with diabetes, obesity, heart disease or a weak immune system, we should stay focused on those patients, after taking care of more than 20,000 covid-related patients past few years, that is who suffered the most, those with the underlying medical conditions and seniors. elizabeth: what the doctor is aing what scie -- saying is what scientists and doctors have been rightly recommending since the beginning of the pandemic, there was concern that americans were not give inevitable formed c concept about side effects of booster, guy, we have sound of dr. fauci, he was asked years ago about aids vaccine, he said no, you

have to talk about side effects of that. >> if you take it a year goes by, everyone is fine. you say okay that is good. now let's give it to a 500 people. then a year goes by, and it is fine, now to thousands of people. you find out it takes 12 years for all hell to break loose, then what have you done. elizabeth: you see side effects, we understand aids vaccine is out of the question. but, storyside effects in discussion about that. >> there has been a lot of progress on aids and hiv front. thank goodness, the words of caution. flash back words are probably smart. and that is why this one size fits all top down approach that we've seen from so many health bureaucrats, i can understand the very beginning we have a vaccine it passed clinical trials.

i get, that get my two shots. but as we learn more. we know about some side effects if you air low risk person to begin with, then you should let people make their decisions in consultation with their doctor, based on their own risk factors, that is why rather than listening to dr. fauci or a government official tell he, i would rather get off the air, call the doctor and have that conversation, she can ask me questions, and i can suddenanswer and make a decision. elizabeth: doctor, your final word? >> all about risk versus benefit. vaccine has been helpful, in my patients, keeping high risk seniors out of the hospital, trying to minimize complications, it not 100%, but best plan of action, speak it your doctor, go there f there. elizabeth: thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> my pleasure. elizabeth: the sneaky way

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media, people he thinks did wrong, dr. fauci, the covid agenda. he does it with a reasonableness and sound decision making judgment that i think is what propelled him in eyes of so many republican primary voters. elizabeth: to your point, he speaks in a common sense way. >> the issue is a teacher is faced with either following state law or listening to a school board or a school union or an admins administrator telling them to violate state law. if they follow state law they are protected, does not matter if a school board thinks otherwise, if you work for a school union, you should not make any more than what the highest paid teacher is making. and that is just you have these people making huge amounts of money, and teachers are making half of

that. how is that fair, how is that something that makes? elizabeth: he said, that makes sense, he wants stricter term limits on school board members, many of them get a lot of money. >> yeah, i saw that in florida. a school board member serves 12 year terms, that is almost oligarchy for life, he wants to reduce it to 8, in new york state i believe they are 4 years. nobody is has a 12 year term. that is, a steady outsider, he sees things that are wrong, and has executive authority and power as governor to do something about them, he does it without banging his fi first on table or screaming or scaring people, but getting the job done, that is what made him such an interesting potential candidate.

elizabeth: this is nationwide problem, school critic said there are left wing active students in our nation's schools, mobilizing a grievance narrative and exploding bureaucracy to isolate shame, intimidate anyone who disagrees with their politics of social justice, let's watch bill maher. >> i am a big defend aer of teachers, how did we lose control? how could any kid learn in this atmosphere, you can't survive. these are all schools not justin-- just the intercities, we have lost control of our schools. >> w where does a 4-year-old come in, instead of teaching colors, you tell him pick your pronouns, where did that come from? who told us it would be imposed on children. elizabeth: who told us it

was going to be imposed on children, did they announce it, how can they get away with it, doing things that damage our children, children are scared to hear the very d adult concepts. >> a great question, a lot of parents are just too busy, they don't have the time to look deeply into what their children are doing some, do, they are seen as agitators by school districts it takes power of the government, a governor away school board leader and people who are not part of the academic circle, that is dominated by liberal thinking and socialist i thinking that is what happened with the union, that is what happened with teachers union and too many teachers, unless you have ideological diversity in nonpartisanship in schools, you get what the teachers union want its takes a brave parent to step forward and object, or a strong governor. glen yo youngkin in

virginia, and ron desantis and sara huckabee sanders in arkansas moving down the same path, this is a return to basics, a return to learning, it is getting politics and dogma out of the schools, it is so necessary. elizabeth: ari fleischer, so good to have you on. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: we have this story, president is to attack g.o.p. in a speech on thursday, about the economy. this story, speaky way that congress could reform social security and medicare, particular hurt you. former u.s. treasury official and glover norquist are next on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪ on your well the ♪ ♪

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elizabeth: former u.s. treasury official michael and americans for tax reform president grover norquist. thank you for spending time with us. to you michael, president biden, he will reportedly attack the g.o.p. this coming thursday in a new speech on the economy, trying to paint the gop as

extreme. also for allegedly gutting social security and medicare, where do you come down on this. >> thank you, liz. i don't so g.o.p. anywhere proposing we'll inact in national sales tax or we'll be touching social security benefits for those who have already earned them. we're talking about is getting discretionary spending under control, we can't continue to spend 25% of gdp in form of government spending, prior to pandemic, we were spending about 20% of gdp if form of government spending, it their are plenty of spending cuts to be had before we go after social security benefits. >> the president will tilt it windmills and gas lighting nation on falsehoods. grover, the sneaky we to

keep it s solvent to raise everyone's age. to 67 for medicare, and 70 for social security. >> back in 2011. 2013, we did the debt ceiling before, we have been here, and done this before, we know how it plays out, back then democrats said we want to have a tax increase, and reform social security and medicare, so when we're done we can attack you for it, that is what they wanted. republicans said, no tax increase, period. not for anything. and they said, if you took 2. 4 trillion in december ceiling increase we want at least 2.4 trillion in spending reduction in next decade, that is the deal we got, these are once again

starting with saying the republicans are open to tax increases, which is not accurate and saying that republicans top get social security. and then not wanting to talk about spending restraint. we will get back to a conversation of spending restraint, good news that 60% of americans do want any debt ceiling to include spending restraint. >> so bad, people -- this border patrol in california saying people are smuggling into california eggs, eggs are so pricey. president -- is talking about tax hikes to pay for historic spending and you know, we have to talk about historic government fraud. house ways and means chair, will be with us tomorrow. we're talking historic theft of tax pra taxpayer money from covid relief. >> you look at spending under biden administration, they added 5 trillion in

additional spending in last two years, that is why we go the 9% inflation. that is why eggs have increased 60%. because, out of federal government, is a huge rhame of resources al-gheit at allocated at federal level, we need to get back to a foundation where we have people -- we have federal government living within its means and encourage people to participate in the labor force, so private sector can lead us out of the recession. elizabeth: final word grover, about workers making supply, not about slamming into system hot money, san francisco fed reports that spending is about half, 3 percentage points of inflation rate? >> they spent 5 trillion, we didn't need to spend, they wwant to a get out of jail free card and they want republicans to validate

their over spending by allowing debt ceiling to go up, we have to do the debt ceiling up but cost has to be serious spending restraint in next decade. legally required not just promises. elizabeth: got it, michael and grover if you, we'll be we'll be -- thank you, we'll be right back, stay right there. . . i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire

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