to bring out the innovator in you. doors can lead us toward what's important. your dedicated fidelity advisor can help you open those doors. by working with you on a retirement-income plan designed to balance growth and guaranteed income. because doors were meant to be opened. larry: my last thought, it's not america's decline right now, it's the decline in america's leadership. that's the problem. and, liz mcdonald, up next is the solution. elizabeth: there is a solution, vote him out. larry, my favorite part of the show was at the top when you said chinese weather balloon, hahahah ha. [laughter] such great stuff. thank you so much. okay, so critics slam this incompetent white house move that backfired to distract from its national security blunder that china flew spy balloons under the biden white house,

heir trying to say it happened under trump. but about a dozen trump officials said, no, and the biden white house corrected its own narrative today as wrong. with us tonight, congressman carlos jimenez and dr. marion net miller meeks, christian whiton, former white house press secretary ari fleischer, former deputy assistant attorney general tom due prix, economic perot -- and senior professor heath -- he's nicholas giordano. new polls out, they're shocking the white house just ahead of the president's state of the union. a majority of chem can accurates say no -- democrats say no to biden running in 0 the 24. the president wrongfully takes a victory lap on a potentially inflated january jobs report that even federal reserve officials now doubt. and house gop set to the launch its own probe this week into hunter biden. it's set to play hardball, we've

got it. and the new nationwide push for school choice away from toxic schools. and we also have this, more evidence that dr. fauci's making big bucks after he is accused of misleading the nation. i'm elizabeth macdonald. the evening edit starts right now. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: we've got breaking news. stocks are down. the fed could raise interest rates beyond another quarter point that's expected coming up, that's what the market is dealing with right now. house republicans debating a new resolution to disapprove of the president's major national security blunder, inaction over the chinese spy balloon that could possibly come tomorrow out. the house. this would be the same day as the president's state of the union address. u.s. officials reportedly aware of this balloon in u.s. air space for a week, since january 28th. edward lawrence is live at the

white house with more. edward. >> reporter: yeah. white house officials telling me that, in fact, this chinese spy aircraft will not change the president's state of the union address, that he always planned to put his foreign policy vision in it including what they call managing strategic competition with the chinese. now, after allowing in this chinese spy airship to go across the u.s., former defense and security officials saying the president needs to show strength when he's showing weakness. >> because the real problem is what are we going to do about it. i mean, this should be a sputnik moment. we should understand that the chinese are not to be trusted. what we need to do is increase defense spending, fix our problems in the asian military. number two, double american r&d spending. don't let 'em buy american farmland are, secure the supply chain. >> reporter: so in just the latest provocation by the chinese, the biden administration refusing to move on a ban of tiktok over its data collection so far. at least 30 governors have

banned the app on state-owned devices. the chinese also helping to prop up the russian economy by buying russian oil, using its union pay card for transactions now that visa and mastercard no longer do business with russia. the president saying the u.s. made it clear they wanted to shoot down the airship, but the white house could be theplaying chinese provocation -- downplaying. listen to this. >> our approach with china has been pretty clear, and we've been very clear about this, and it will continue on the calm, resolute and practical. >> reporter: and she adds it's up to the chinese to determine what kind of relationship they would like to have. the chinese saying it was a weather balloon and shooting it down, they say, was irresponsible and unacceptable. back to you. elizabeth: god it -- got it. look who's here, congressman carlos him jimenez -- jimenez and christian whiton. it's being called the new big lie from the white house to cover up a national security blunder that china flew spy

balloons into the u.s. under trump. about a dozen trump officials say that did not happen. the white house saying, oh, they found out about that after trump left office when biden stepped into office. congressman, they're talking texas once, florida twice. that is far different from letting a chinese spy balloon cross the entire continental united states, congressman jimenez. >> absolutely. look, that spy balloon should have shot down the second it crossed into u.s. air space off alaska. and this lame excuse that they didn't want to shoot it down because they thought it maybe would harm somebody, i bet there's a heck of a lot more boaters off the coast of carolina than there are in the middle of alaska. that's just a lame excuse. only because some reporters found out about it kid the they ever say, oh, yeah, there's a spy balloon flying over the united states. you really have to wonder who this president works for. elizabeth: were they waiting on this to not let it get out

because of secretary of state blinken's trip to beijing, christian whiton? and the president's state of the the union address? >> that raises the question of why they did that. it's unknown, there's so much that really hasn't been explained and even though, hopefully, our mill that tear's recovering what sur surveillance equipment was carried, i'll bet that's going to be kept classified. maybe it'll slip out here and there. i think the bigger issue here is the the complete lack of a white house policy. the -- china policy. actually, the president has had some good sentiment against the chinese communist party. three times he has said we would help taiwan defend itself in a war, and three times he's been walked back by his own administration. i think the public would like to hear an actual china policy out of our president tomorrow, but apparently we're not going to get it. elizabeth: let's watch democrats like cory booker jump on this now-debunked white house narrative that trump and his team knew china flew balloons across america under trump.

they didn't know that, they're denying that. and you're going to watch the white house refute and rebutt its own narrative. watch this. >> i want to a a make one more point about this, i think what is -- it's problematic when democrat or republican have one standard for one president and ooze standard for another president. this is now known to have happened under the trump administration multiple times. >> i can't speak to what awareness there was in the previous administration about these. i can tell you that we discovered these flights after we came into office. and there's -- i'm not going to get into the specifics of how we did the forensics, but we did, we became aware that at least on three to occasions surveillance balloons by the prc transited

u.s. air space. i will say that from every indication that we have that that was for brief periods of time. elizabeth: congressman, brief periods of time. it's not a hundred hours, it's not four days. they went briefly into florida and texas. it's not, you know, it's far different from going over our minutemen nuclear missile site, our military bases, our ports that may be needed if there's a war with taiwan. so what is with this white house floating this fake narrative trying to make this as being a trump problem? >> well, because everything that comes out of the biden white house or the democrats is misinformation. they are the purveyors of misinformation and have been for years. the russiagate, all the stuff that's come out is just a bunch of lies. you can tell when the democrats -- you can tell exactly what they're doing when they accuse the other side of doing it. when they accuse us of doing

something, it's them. on this case it's a failure to protect american interests, protect american military facilities -- beth elizabeth that's it. >> -- spying by the chinese. shoot it down. elizabeth: america first. >> exactly. elizabeth: they don't hiv for the democrat party. it's supposed to be about america. former president trump immediately called this disinformation, christian. even john bolton said it too. he's not so far into the trump crowd. so, you know, it's -- the criticism is the white house is not protecting our borders and our skies. so, and this is coming right as the president says he's going to make his state of the union, foreign policy a big focal point? [laughter] is he going to talk about this and afghanistan? [laughter] >> yeah, i can't imagine he's going to put a lot of emphasis on this. yeah, and robert o'brien, another national security adviser under trump, said no information came to him about this, ric grenell, the former director of national intelligence, no information in the trump administration about these chinese balloon flyovers.

at the end of the day, a lot of the people who seem to be driving this phony narrative of saying this is routine, why would you say that in the first place? they're the ones who wanted blinken, the secretary of state, to have his meeting with chinese leaders and the point of that was to set up another summit between president biden and xi jinping. and why? what do we have to talk about? if they're -- now they're trying to spin it that blinken's going to go and read the riot act -- elizabeth: that's not really -- china's really afraid of secretary of state blinken? and so the other thing you pointed out, christian, that they knew about it, right? that they knew about these balloon flights through, you know, crossing into hawaii, texas and florida, and voters weren't told? and trump officials were not told? who was keeping this secret in the biden white house? this is exploding right in their face, christian. >> right. well, and, you know, successive administrations have talked about a pivot to asia and getting serious in the military,

and when biden failed in afghanistan, some of the rumors out of the white house said at least we can focus op on asia now, and that just hasn't happened. we have fewer ships and aircraft in the pacific every success i year. that 100 billion we've sent to the ukraine, it sure would be nice if the europeans had paid more of that, because we could use that to plus up deterrence so maybe we don't have to fight china. elizabeth: congressman, why weren't voters told? why weren't trump officials told? who is keeping america in the dark about chinese spy balloons? this is probably the most incompetent thing, one of the most incompetent rebuttals and narratives coming out of this biden white house to date. it's one of the most idiotic things we've ever seen, congressman. >> well, i just can't believe that, you know, a national intelligence agency wouldn't inform the president of the united states that there are chinese spy balloons flying over u.s. territory. that's beyond the pale. that's incomprehensible, and if they are, who are they, okay? and why do they think that

somehow they can keep that a secret? elizabeth: got it. congressman, christian, thank you so much. joinings now, former assistant to president trump, marc lotter. they don't care about the border, they don't care this chinese spy balloon was transiting the u.s. for four days, they don't care about telling the u.s. voter and trump officials that there were other chinese spy balloons, at least three of them crossing into florida and texas, a far cry from the continental u.s. marc, when you heard this story, can did you guys know about chinese spy balloons in the trump white house? >> no, i never heard of it. in fact, general keith kellogg who worked with me never heard about it, and he was involved in every major national security threat during all four years of the trump administration. so whether it's general kellogg, john ratcliffe, ric grenell, i mean, over and over and over you're hearing all of these people say it didn't happen, we never knew about it. and i find it hard to believe that a balloon that people were

taking pictures of with their iphones from the ground was just floating around out there, and nobody caught any images of it. elizabeth: yeah, so, you know, there's that. marc, these two new polls coming out, they're. >> shocking the white house ahead of the state of the union. these polls done before this chinese spy balloon fiat eco. abc/washington post plus associated press poll, majority of democrats don't want biden to run again in 2024, and look at this, abc/washington post poll, former president trump has taken a 3-point lead over biden. what do to you make of all this? >> well, and i also look at another poll that says nearly two-thirds of the american people are financially worse off than they were two years ago. that's why those numbers are the way that they are. people know that the previous policies worked. they know that they were better off under those previous policies, and the reason why joe biden cannot sell this fake economic hope that he's to got is that people aren't worried about the unemployment rate right now. they will be, but they aren't

right now. they're worried about paying for gas and eggs. elizabeth: so basically, they don't believe anything this white house says about economy. >> over and over again, remember, we were told recession was just assistance story -- transitory, it wasn't going to be around long. now they're trying to take credit for the fact that gas is a dollar cheaper than it was last summer. well, it's still a dollar more than it was when you took office. the american people can see it -- elizabeth: you know what it feels like? like this white house only cares about itself, that it only cares about the democrat party, it only cares about its special interest, its base. but guess what? the base is peeling off. african-americans, hispanic. we saw new york state voters say no to the democrat agenda. i mean, this is a major fight that's now breaking out when you see these polls. >> and this is a kitchen table cycle right now we are in, and joe biden is on the wrong side of every single major issue, and he's not going to be able to spin his way out of it. he actually runs risk of looking

like he is ignoring the real concerns of the american people if he stands before congress tomorrow night and tries to paint this rosy picture about how great the economy is. elizabeth: well, we've got this other thing, major fight tween chris christie and trump after chris said trump could not beat biden in 2024. watch this. >> joe biden's president because donald trump lost. joe biden didn't win. and what he had in '20 the was a gift. he had donald trump who was toxic, and he had a pandemic which prevented him from having to go out and speak every cay. elizabeth: he didn't speak every day, biden, because of the pandemic. your reaction to chris christie here because talk is he will run in 2024 along with other republicans. trump is really going after him hard on truth social. >> well, and absolutely. look, everybody knows the trump policies worked, and every single are republican no matter who they are are going to run on trump policies and bringing them back. so who can outtrump trump? right now nobody can, and if you want to take out the leader, you've got to prove it.

none of them have proved it so far, and the one difference i think where. chris: chris christie -- getting it wrong, joe biden has a record this time around. he was a hypothetical president in 2020. he has a record to run on, and it's not good. elizabeth: we've got the state of the union tomorrow night. what do you expect out of the president? >> i think the president's going to try to put a giant spit shine on this economy where he ignores the fact that everyday americans are hurting. he's going to talk about how, you know, this china balloon issue is really manufactured, the border crisis is republicans' fault. i mean, come on. people aren't going to the buy any of this spin. elizabeth: yeah. and you know how the trump voter sees it. they see trump as savaged and attacked from day one. there were protests in washington, d.c. the day he was inaugurated. there were calls for his impeachment even before he was inaugurated. democrats wanted him impeached going from jalapeno when he stepped into office -- the

january when he stepped into office through those months. and they feel like he's been savaged and attacked, the only thing they talk about on msnbc is trump wall to wall. they see him being railed on and railroaded with the trump-russia probe that has been debunked. yeah, there were laws that were violated, we get that. there was no collusion with trump and russia to hack hillary clinton's e-mails, period. and service the hillary clinton's team who planted that debunked narrative and more on trump inside at the fbi. so there's never been an airing out for the united states of what happened under this trump white house when he was really ripped apart by people who hated him from day one. >> and the more and more information that's coming out with the twitter files and talking about how the democrats colluded with big media, be wig -- with big tech, the more and more it aggravates people who want just the republican side or donald trump personally to get a fair shot. just treat us fairly. we'll win the argument. elizabeth: listen, people --

everybody knows what trump's about. they know he's hard to take. they know his tweets are hard to take, the constant personal attacks. but his economic policies worked. that's what voters feel when you see these polls going against biden like that, wow. democrats also saying it. something's going on. marc lotter, it's good to see you. >> good to see you. elizabeth okay. house republicans are set to launch their probe into hunter biden this week, and it looks like they will play hardball. plus, two major new polls, we're going to stay on it, shocking the white house ahead of the state of the union. we're digging further into the abc/washington post poll and the associated press poll that goes beyond democrats not wanting biden to run again in 0 the 24. plus more how the president may be taking a victory lap on a potentially inflated january jobs report, former white house press secretary ari fleischer and former treasury official michael falconer next on "the evening edit."

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michael falconer. ari, first to you, four in ten americans tell abc/washington post pollsters they are worse off financially under biden? that's the most in nearly four decades of in the poll. nearly out of -- eight out of ten think america's going in the wrong direction under biden. these polls are bad for the white house ahead of the state of the union, ari. >> and only 38% of democrats want joe biden to win for re-election. that's democrats. so, yeah, joe biden is sailing into tremendous headwinds of a historical nature for a president who wants to run for re-election. if i were him, and i think this is what he's going to do the, he's going to pretend to be they don't exist, and he's going to tell all the american people that the winds are blowing in the right direction -- elizabeth: but doesn't that make his polls drop more? >> the question is, will the american people fall for it? elizabeth: count that make his polls drop even more when he does that? >> i think what's going to happen is we have to see what the future holds.

if the economy starts to turn around, people will say concern especially people inclined to believe joe biden -- see, biden was right. if the numbers continue the way they are, joe biden will fall faster than a chinese balloon. so it really comes down to the future of the economy which biden will try to tell the people the economy is strong when we know it's the not. elizabeth: so is you know -- well, some say it'd be faster than a whale dropping. to you, michael, the president is now blowing out even his prior exaggerations. watch this. >> we've created 12 million job- [applause] 12 million jobs since we took office. [applause] that's the strongest the 2 the-year growth in the history and by a long shot. >> we paid for everything we did. [cheers and applause] unlike the republicans who grew the deficit $1.7 trillion in two years. did you ever think we'd be in a

situation where blue collar workers are voting republican? no, no, let's -- we've got to be honest, map man. because they think we forgot them. elizabeth: well, michael -- [laughter] he's flat out deceiving the american people. the economy clawed back, it retraced and brought back 25 the million jobs killed in the pandemic shutdowns led by democrats. he's only created about a million jobs, michael, plus the deficit is down because pandemic spending went away. >> that's right, liz. i mean, when it comes to deficit reduction, in order to cut it by $1.7 trillion, you have to have first run a deficit of clash 1.7 trillion -- $1.7. if you look at the worst four deficits we've had in the history of our nation, they were the year of the pandemic, the second worst was biden's first year in office, the third worse was the financial crisis, and the second was president biden's second year in office.

finish if -- but, of course, the developer of last friday that you didn't have in your clip there was him claiming he inherited inflation. if you think about why the american people feel so left behind during this economy, it's because wages haven't done anywhere near enough to end keep up with all of the inflation that's been induced by biden and the democrats' policies. and so he went from inflation being transitory to inflation being putin's problem to now he inherited the inflation. when, in fact, inflation was only at 1.4% when he came into office. so, yeah, i don't think that the american people are going to fall for the things he's going to try to sell them on tuesday, because they see their own experiences. elizabeth: yeah. and to what michael is saying, ari, you know, americans feel it. they know what's going on. they know what's going on with their pocketbooks and their kitchen tables as you pointed out, ari. by the way, what is going on with the january jobs report? you've got two federal reserve banks, now the st. louis federal reserve and the philadelphia

federal reserve bank questioning the truthfulness of the january jobs report. the st. louis fed says the u.s. economy actually lost 2.5 million jobs in january. that means the headline 517,000 jobs gain, ari, was driven by a government seasonal adjustment. the governor goes in there and does estimates, 3 million to the upside. the philly fed questioned the jobs numbers too. so, you know, can we really trust this president with his state of the union address tomorrow night, ari? >> well, in the big picture, can we trust the president, the answer is, no. the president is going to do what all politicians do, he's going to go before the american people and tell them a story. the story he needs to tell is that the economy is great, conditions are great, foreign policy's great, he's great. it won't work unless things turn around. that's the problem joe biden has. it's hard to see things turning around under him. elizabeth: and if he starts going after maga voters and republicans, guess what? he's their president too, right,

michael? so this so-called unity president has completely failed at that job that he claimed he was going to do the in unifying the nation. michael, when you saw this january jobs report, are we really to believe that with less people working in the jobs force, it's like 4 million to 5 million have cropped out of the u.s. job -- dropped out of the u.s. job force since before the pandemic, and we've added more in population growth. so, thusly, the government adjusts the jobs number because of the population popping. that doesn't mean more people are working. are we really to believe this jobs number when the u.s. economy's flatlining at 2% growth? >> right. so the concern about the jobs report was that if you look at the actual number of people employed, it went down by 2.5 million, as you cited both the st. louis fed and the philly fed having said. the issue that they had is that normally holiday hiring leads to about 3 million job reductions in january. well, because they had difficulty hiring people last

fall, retailers didn't lay off as many people as they normally would in january. and so that accounts for this half a million surprise, it's that normally we would lose 3 million jobs in january, we only lost 2.5 million, and somehow the bls spins that ahead of the state of the union address as a 517,000-employee gain, right? ultimately, the jobs market saw 2.5 million fewer people employed in january, and that's what's relevant for the economy going forward. elizabeth: well, michael, you just nailed it. ari, you've been great too. so we are going to stay on this for the state of the union. we're going to give the american people as best we can, thanks to you guys, the truth of what's going on with the economy. the topspin you'll hear tomorrow night will be painting a picture. we're going to stay on it, we'll have you back on soon. thank you, gentlemen, for joining us this monday night. virginia lieutenant governor winsome sears, she's leading the nationwide push for a school

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elizabeth: welcome back. tensions rising on capitol hill, more democrats joining republicans in getting fed up with the justice department's stonewalling over the mishandling of u.s. secrets. fox news' david spunt at the justice department with the latest. david. >> reporter: hi, good evening, liz. first of all, you know, fights between the justice department and capitol hill go back decades,but what makes this unique is, as you said, democrats are starting to come out in bigger numbers, and they are being loud and vocal about it, opposing a democratic-run justice county when it come -- department when it comes to seeing documents taken from mar-a-lago, wilmington the, delaware, and also former vice president mike pence's

possession. now, these members of congress want to physically see the classified documents taken connected the former president trump, president biden and former vice president mike pence. members of the senate intelligence committee normally review classified documents and sent a stern letter to the director of national intelligence, avril haines, and attorney general merrick garland last week. they wrote as of this writing neither of you have complied with these the requests citing the department of justice's ongoing investigation of both matters. our jurisdiction is clear as are our responsibilities. listen. >> when the shoe was on the other foot and i was part of an investigation into russian involvement in potentially in the trump campaign, you know, there was a special prosecutor, bob mueller. we still got access to documents, and we looked at those. >> we have an absolute right to review these documents, to make an informed judgment about what, if any, national security implications it may have had.

>> reporter: a little bipartisan agreement right there. sources familiar tell fox news it's really up to the special counsel jack smith investigating the trump document case and robert hur investigating the biden document case to make a decision the on whether senators should be able to come in and view the documents in person. a source tells fox news the office of director of national intelligence and doj officials have reached out to the gang of eight to make that offer to give them a briefing on the issue, but we're told that no time soon should these members of congress expect to actually see the physical documents at the heart of these investigations. liz? elizabeth: that's why we need you, david spunt, on the story. it's good to the see you. joining us now, former deputy assistant attorney general tom due prix. tom, house oversight -- it's good to see you. they're expected to launch its probe into hunter biden this wednesday. it'll start with the laptop. also reports house overnight -- oversight, they plan to subpoena about a dozen banks.

what's the fallout, the implication of this this? >> liz, i think the implication is pretty clear, there's a new sheriff in town. the house are republicans are coming in. they, i think, will start getting to the bottom of this whole hunter biden situation. we've seen them already reach out. they've contacted witnesses, banks, they're going to get people up on the hill to testify under oath, and i think they are finally going to put a spotlight on a story that, honestly, just has not gotten the attention it's the deserved. elizabeth: so the banks are basically cooperating. they may have information because the biden treasury department won't turn over the 150 suspicious activity reports it got from u.s. banks about alleged possible money lawpped laundering by the biden family through those off-balance sheet shell companies. that's just a red flag. it's not proof that it happened, it's a red flag that something happened. >> yeah. and what's interesting here, liz, is the way that the hunter biden legal team is approaching this is in a very aggressive way. they have been going out trying to get people, it appears, not to testify, not to cooperate, to

basically hunker down, which is a very --st the an aggressive approach. but i think at the end of the day, it's not going to work because the congressional committees come armed with the powers of subpoena, the power to force people to produce documents, to force testimony. so at the end of the day, i don't think they're going to succeed in keeping this under wraps. elizabeth: tom, also reports coming in they're going to the examine the activities of joe biden's brothers, jim and frank, and that reportedly they have witnesses to talk. what's the fallout of that? >> yeah. well, what's interesting, number one, is that it's showing that the inquiry is broadening the scope rather than narrowing. the other important thing is what's been great is that the republicans are emphasizing that this isn't about just fishing expeditions into all joe biden's relatives. they're focused on joe biden himself. they want to find out if he profited from in the, if he was doing things improperly taking advantage of his position, so i think they've been great about setting the parameters around investigation. elizabeth: we don't the know for a fact, but do you have any indication or any sense that

this possibly president biden talked to hunter biden and then hunter biden's lawyers reportedly sent those threatening letters to,es you know, people talking about disseminating hunter biden's laptop computer data? i mean, there's information they may have been threatening banks here too. would the president be involved in something like that? >> you know, it almost would surprise me if he weren't, liz. i mean, from what we've seen, he has a very close relationship, he's been involved both in hunter's business activities and we assume kind of helping guide the legal strategy. bottom line, it's hard for me to see a universe in which hunter biden's lawyers were pursuing a strategy that joe biden disapproved of. elizabeth: got it. tom dupree, thanks for joining us, good to see you. >> likewise. elizabeth: more evidence of dr. fauci making big bucks after he's been accused of misleading the nation on things like lockdowns and the efficacy of covid-19 zack seens. also educators speaking out

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in addition, courses are currently being revised at colleges throughout the country to incorporate this as well. it's not just one course you can be taking, it may be several courses. and this is going on in every degree program that exists out there. elizabeth: so you're saying the if you don't take the, a student does not take these courses, they cannot graduate? >> correct. it's going to be a degree requirement, and the problem that i have with it is that there's no pushback. when we look at what they're trying to do, if you look at the learning outcomes, it's basically set in stone that equity and inclusion and social justice, it's a political agenda that's being pushed. they're stating that it's institutionally, inherently racist, always has been, always will be. they're promoting the idea of social justice, but we all know that they're not going to promote sane immigration policies or limited government or fiscal responsibility. it's about promoting a political agenda as opposed to thinking

critically and getting students to think for themselves concern. elizabeth: it's indoctrination. it's indoctrination. >> well, i think it's moved beyond that into brain warrenning. elizabeth: -- brainwashing. elizabeth: so it's coming through the state of university of new york school system, universities and colleges. you're seeing it in other states too? because we've got parents pulling children out of toxic public school systems. you're seeing it elsewhere in other states too? >> yes. we're seeing it all throughout the country. and if we look at it, it's not just the college that we have to wore -- worry about it, we see that it's being infused into curriculums throughout the k-12 system as well. now it's just full-out brainwashing. and colleges have to realize that they're facing enrollment declines. the business sector, the employers are now i saying that there's no degree requirements because they see what's going on at colleges. elizabeth: so even if you want to be an architect or a chemist, you have to take these courses or you can't graduate. okay, parents are afraid for

their children. let's watch hbo's bill ma her on what's going on. watch this. >> if you're part of today's woke revolution, you need to study the part of revolutions where they spin out of control because the revolutionaries get so drunk on their own elixir, they imagine they can reinvent the very nature of human beings. russian revolutionaries spoke of the new soviet man when who wasn't motivated by self-interest, but instead wanted to be part of a collective. no, turns out he wants to be on the a yacht holding a vodka and a prostitute -- [laughter] not standing in line all day for a potato. the problem with communism ask with some recent ideologies here at home is that they think you can change reality by screaming at it. [laughter] elizabeth: that's pretty on point. what do you think? >> i think he's spot on. and it shouldn't matter about political ideology. if we look at a number of professors that have gotten in trouble over the course of the

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