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his state of the union address. we've got a full night of fact checking ahead. and another brutal poll, this time from monmouth university. six out of ten do not think america is strong under the president. and house gop and trump, they're ready to countermessage. plus, now this, general james mattis, he is discuss disputing and contradicting the white house leak about chinese spy balloons under trump. and get the, so does biden's nsa, jake sullivan. with us tonight, former arkansas governor asa hutchen southern, former omb director mick mulvaney. the washington examiner's byron york, a new york city schoolteacher fired for not getting vaccinated and ford o'connell. an fbi whistleblower testifies behind closed doors on how the doj and fbi are politicized. we're on it. and more reports about hunter biden, foreign money and the president's very secretive think

tanks. and vaccine mandates are vanishing nationwide, but who is going to the help the thousands fired and bullied over that? plus, the new nationwide push to stop the white house getting at your are retirement savings for their political agendas. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ muck. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: welcome to the show. check your stocks, higher in choppy seasaw -- see i saw action. st the still up in the air how high interest rates will go. we got more corporate layoffs, now zoom is going to cut a big 15% of its work force. we're talking 1300 jobs there. look at all of those layoffs. and house gop and former president trump, they are ready to countermessage against the president's state of the union address in just a few hours.

and this, the fence has gone back up at the capitol building. edward lawrence is live at the white house with more. >> reporter: yeah, fence has gone up, with we had the chinese spy airship that came over the united states. we're told the will briefly mention that the, the president always planned to talk about his foreign policy vision for this going forward, but some democrats are now saying that the president needs to send a message to to china that this can't stand. listen. >> he needs to or articulate exactly what our china strategy is going to be the, he needs to make it clear that any future balloons or any violation of national air space will not stand. and i think he needs to start, in my view, with that explanation to the american public. >> reporter: but president joe biden expected to hit hard on the economy. he feels like he's not getting credit that he deserves for the economy even though cpi

inflation's still at 6.5%, well above the fed's 2% target. the president will highlight all the spending he has signed into law, more than $5.8 trillion of taxpayer money, most of it yet to be spent. the fed chairman spoke odd about that. he was asked about all that government spending. listen. >> but i would say that we, we're on an unsustainable fiscal path at the federal government level. that has been the case for some time, and it's something we will have to deal with. better to deal with it sooner rather than later. >> reporter: so in the speech the president will also talk about the fentanyl crisis, but not the open borders that republicans say the president promoted which republicans say let the fentanyl into the u.s. we will also hear about the president's ideas for police reform going forward. so a wide-ranging speech with a large part, we're told, that's going to focus on the economy. elizabeth: great stuff. edward lawrence, great to see you. let's bring in from senate

judiciary senator blackburn. senator, it's great to see you. the breaking news is this: china says no to a phone call with pentagon chief lloyd austin. your reaction to that? >> we should not be surprised that china said no to a phone call. china thinks that they are in control of this this situation. they put up a spy balloon, they let it go sashaying across the united states collecting data, then sending this back to communist china, and the ccp has had a heyday with this. i'm sure they're popping the champagne bottles, and they are just having a big old time, and they probably got a pretty good laugh out about let's have a phone call about this. elizabeth: senator -- >> when someone thinks they're dominating you, liz, they are not going to stop. and that is the position that china is in right now. elizabeth: so, senator, are you

hearing the house will probe the president letting that chinese spy balloon, it's as big as the statue of liberty, cross over the u.s. for four days over two dozen military bases, will the house probe that? we're hearing it will. >> they should be probing that, and the senate should be probing that because the american people want it to be probed. and here is the hinge -- thing, if our dod command team said they could not come out of afghanistan because -- or we ought not to come out of afghanistan, and joe biden says we're coming out of afghanistan. i'm the commander in chief, i make the decisions. then you have to say, okay, joe biden is now saying i told them to shoot down that balloon, but they said they weren't going to shoot down that balloon. now people are saying, hey, this doesn't add up. so where's the truth? is the truth about afghanistan or is the truth about the china spy balloon? because joe biden was the commander in chief then, he's the commander in chief now.

he's got the same people at dod. that's not how this process works. and so people want him to address this. why did he not want to shoot down that spy balloon? why didn't he do it when it was off the coast of of alaska and just coming into our space? why didn't he let it -- why did he let it drift across the country? elizabeth: we've got a brutal new poll are from monmouth university. monmouth university new poll, a record six out of ten say america is not strong under president biden. watch the president make light of how the should respond to the this. watch this. [inaudible conversations] >> ban tiktok? >> dick doc, yeah. -- tiktok. >> i'm not sure. i know i don't have it on -- [inaudible conversations]

[laughter] >> they're the chinese. government. elizabeth: senator, did you hear that? they're the chinese government. so china can do whatever it wants? it sounds like this white house is making it up as it goes along. >> we know that our allies should know that they're our allies can depend on us, and our enemies should know that they're our enemy, and they should fear us. this would never have happened under a donald trump foreign policy. mike pompeo would never have let something like this happen. and the fact that the communist chinese party is ridiculing us, they are continuing to carry out a genocide against the uighurs, you look at what they've cone to hong kong, you look at how they're threatening taiwan, you look at how they are rid are calling the united states -- ridiculing the united states, it is time to get off and to have a foreign policy understand. and this administration, for whatever reason, appears to be

unable to have a consistent foreign policy in dealing with the chinese communist party, in dealing with the axis of evil, as i call it, russia, china, iran and north korea. these are people who do not wish us well. elizabeth: senator, you know, to this story, the leak over the weekend about the chinese spy balloons under the trump white house, the head of norad and northcom said they were not aware of any chinese spy balloons, that the intelligence community toll them after the fact, after trump left, after biden stepped into the white house. he's citing an information gap. isn't this a big concern for our intelligence community, that they did not know? in. >> it should be a concern not only for our intel community, but it should also be a concern for our department of defense. if there is that kind of gap. so this is another area, liz, where you're going to see investigations take place and

questions be asked. we're looking forward to a classified briefing on what happened with this, because if there are these kind of gaps, we need to be seriously looking at some pretty substantial changes. elizabeth: to your point, senator, we've got new sound coming in from retired four-star marine general james mattis. general mattis never heard of chinese spy balloons under the trump white house. watch rump there's former secretary of defense join the growing list of now more than a dozen trump officials who dispute the biden white house leaks over the weekend. watch this. >> you gotta the wonder was it stupidity or the left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing. but certainly, some questions we all as americans need answers to the, i think, you know? did it really happen during the past administration? because there doesn't seem to be anybody from the past administration who's aware of it. i'm not for the first three years of that administration.

could we not have taken it out sooner? i mean, norad has got a lot of canadian fighters in the alaska-based u.s. fighters up there intercepting russian planes i routinely. elizabeth: right. they're always intercepting russian jets, so why didn't they intercept this balloon, senator? i mean, biden's national security adviser, jake sullivan, says the trump team were, quote, unable to detext chinese spy balloons. word is they were initially classified as ufos, and they only found out about this after trump left office? >> you know, it is so interesting to the me, this administration kind of gets in a little bit of a hot mess and then what do they do? if they have to find somebody else to blame. it's not anything -- nothing's ever their fault. it is always someone else's fault, and they are -- this is the way they operate. their press secretary goes out

and does. what we know is that we would never have known about this balloon if not for a citizen who was a pilot, who was a reporter, 40 who had a great camera. he was there in montana, he took a picture, he put it out there. he said tell me what you know about in the. this was a citizen seeing something and saying something, and then the white house has to go into overdrive denying it. and then trying to make up a story about when they knew if about it, what they were going to do about it, how they were going to the shoot it could be, the list goes on and on. elizabeth: so, senator, what's really -- politicizing national security. >> yes. elizabeth: it's politicizing security for all americans. >> yes. senator senator senator marsha blackburn, thanks for joining us. >> you got it, take care. elizabeth: joining us now, former omb director mick mulvaney. more and more this prime minister is sounding like a rodney -- president is sounding

like rodney dangerfield, i get no respect. it's like carnival hour. no one believes the topspin. what do you expect he's going to say? he's really pushing it with the truth. what do you say to his claims that he inherited collapse and high inflation from trump? >> nobody believes that. and senator blackburn just made a great point about what is the truth. let's make sure the fact checkers are there today. on -- can tonight. on the balloon thing, for example, if he doesn't address it and says it happens during trump, so it's okay, it was happening before i got here -- which he says about just about everything including inflation, which is bizarre. there are a couple of possibilities, either it happened during the trump administration, the military saw it and didn't tell us, because i was in the white house and didn't know anything about these things. that would be wrong. or it happened and they didn't see it, that would be with wrong. or it didn't happen and they're lying now, which would be wrong. be curious to see how the

president creases that issue tonight -- addresses thattish sue tonight. elizabeth: he's underwater in the polls. now we've got monmouth university, mick, saying six out of ten say america is weaker under this prime minister. abc/washington post, they're finding two-thirds feel like he didn't get anything done. the majority of democrats tell abc and associated press they don't want him to run again. so, you know, he's claiming all these things like he created 12 million jobs. he did not. they were regained after pandemic shutdowns which destroyed 25 million jobs. so by biden's own logic, president trump created nearly 13 million jobs. >> yeah, but biden's not well known for logic. look at the monmouth poll on the strength versus weakness. if you're an ordinary voter and you pay attention a little bit, maybe you watch this program once a week, once every other week, what have you seen? you've seen a disaster in afghanistan, you've seen, you know, not really a coherent response to ukraine, now you've

got a chinese balloon that they can't shoot down for a week. i think the ordinary person says, you know what? i didn't like donald trump very much -- elizabeth: we've got breaking news coming in. let's show it. ebay is now cutting 500 jobs. so, mick, we've got a long, long list now of companies cutting jobs. the president is fighting over spending cuts. he's fighting over how he overregulated the u.s. economy. he flatlined growth to now 2.1% for last year. inflation rate is now 13.5% total all in under this president. when he was senator, he proudly voted existence raising the -- against raising the debt limit nine times because he was worried about u.s. debt the spending. you know, obama added the most, then the trump white house, we get that. but we're not in a good place right now, mick, in this nation. >> yeah. st the always hypocrisy of washington d.c. they just don't have a really good relationship are. i'm not sure hypocrisy even exists in washington, d.c. most

of the time. coming back to the what he's going to say tonight, liz, i don't know how he gets out of this hole. this is generally a really boring speech. he is not a great speaker. i don't think he's going to be the able to move the needle much. be curious to see if this is the last speech of ron klain's chief of staff or the first one of jeff siebts'. i don't really know if there's anything he can say to change the momentum. he had a pretty good couple of weeks after the midterms. it's been all could behill since the document issue, now the balloon. i'm not sure he can urn the it around. elizabeth: to your point, it's got to be tough for those 23 senate democrats who face re-election in 2024 to sit through this speech. i mean, the president is again going to the tout that that january jobs report that more and more economists dispute. so does the st. louis federal reserve. there were not 517,000 jobs created in january. even biden's favorite economist, mark zandi at moody's, says he

because not believe with it. st. louis fed actually says we lost 200,000 jobs in january. what do you make of this fight over the january jobs more people do not believe? >> we struggled with this a couple times in the trump administration where the numbers came in, liz, and they just felt wrong, you know, either too high or too low, they were just outliers, and you usually had to wait another 30 days to see what the real numbers were. i was stunned by these numbers last week. i think just about everybody was. we haven't seen numbers like that in many, many years, so i'm not really sure what's going to come of it, but it count surprise me -- doesn't surprise me that zandi is saying, wait a second, whoa, 250 we can believe but 500 plus is just through the roof, let's see what's in the data, let's see what happens next month. elizabeth: yeah, watch the revisions. >> yeah. when they revise down in a month, he'll never talk about it. elizabeth: that's a good point. so the final thing is how --

this president, he feels he gets no respect. again, he's the rodney dangerfield president. what does he expect when he went after big oil from day one? he's now going to go after like stock buybacks, he's going to quadruple the tax on that the. he's mad about chevron's $75 million in stock buybacks. chevron is investing more and more in oil production. it's like 41% more than last year. so what is with this savaging and going -- president savaging and going after u.s. energy jobs like he did and then dismissively they can go code like john kerry did? who do they think they are going after u.s. jobs like that? >> yeah, i think the chevron investment is three times their stock buyback, so to get back to the rodney dangerfield thing, what kid he expect? he expected to be treated by the left-wing press with, essentially, never questioning what he was doing, doing whatever he wanted to do without anybody checking him on any facts. he wanted to be able to go and

say, you know what? inflation wasn't my problem because i inherited it, but now he's so weak even within his own party, that the left-wing press is starting to push back. he's not getting that special treatment that democrat presidents usually get. elizabeth: that's an important point. mick mulvaney, always a pleasure having you on. >> hanks, liz. elizabeth length vaccine mandates are vanishing nationwide, but who is going to the help the thousands of workers, nurses, cops, firemen fired over that? plus these reports, hunter biden did try for an office in the president's secretive think tank where classified documents were found. plus, foreign nations reportedly pouring money into a separate secretive biden think tank at the university of delaware. former missouri attorney general, he's now senator eric schmidt next on "the evening edit." >> if you talk to everyday americans, they are deeply concerned that federal agencies are targeting hard working americans and that there's two sets of rules. if you happen to have the last name clinton or biden, crimes

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elizabeth: let's welcome to the show senator eric schmidt from senate armed services. senator, thanks for joining us, it's good to have you on, and congratulations with your new appointment to senate armed services. it's good to see you. this story, house jewish kish thely chair jim jordan today said his committee conducted, excuse me, a transcribed interview with an fbi whistleblower for their hearing for thursday on the politicization of the koj and fbi. -- doj and fbi. we've got at least a dozen fbi whistleblowers speaking out to gop lawmakers. >> well, it's very concerning. you've got the weaponization of a lot of important government agencies including the fbi. when i was attorney general, we actually filed that landmark if lawsuit against the biden administration colluding with big tech to. censor speech. we took the deposition of elvis chan who was giving monthly, then weekly briefings to big tech companies like facebook and twitter even though they had the hunter biden laptop in their possession. we're talking about it being russian disinformation.

i'm encouraged by the investigation the house is doing right now. we need more of this to expose out, because the american people deserve more than a political bent to important law enforcement agencies. elizabeth: so to your point, hunter biden reportedly wanted an office at the president's think tank, the penn biden center, back in 2016. this is according to reports about e-mails on his laptop the. that's where classified u.s. documents were found. and in the less than a year, hunter biden was reportedly working with china's energy giant cesc and getting millions of dollars on energy deals. >> it's why these investigations are really important. and by the way, also worth pointing out that hunter biden had access to the garage that was supposedly locked with joe biden's corvette with top secret documents too. you put on top brick by brick here this laptop the which, you know, needs to be exposed, who knows what's going to the happen with that, the top secret documents in the garage that hunter biden had access to and now wanting to work for the penn

biden center that was being funded by foreign countries, this is serious stuff that's worthy of investigation. elizabeth: senator, also this: the washington free beacon is reporting based on department to the of education records that china, saudi arabia, oman and turkey reportedly poured tens of millions of dollars into the university of delaware since that school launched its own version of a biden think tank held by his sr.. when you look at these numbers, they're pretty striking. this is where, by the way, biden has about 1900 boxes, 1,875 boxes of senate papers housed at the university of delaware. why is it so secretive? how come nobody is allowed to look into what those senate records are? how can any president think that he's allowed to keep that secret from america when our men and women fought for potentially classified information? again, we don't the know it's in his senate papers, but that's a mystery right now, right, senator?

>> yeah. and the american people deserve to know how far this goes. i would also point out that just a couple weeks ago the bipartisan senate intelligence panel was denied information, you know, and the department of justice is right in the middle of this. these are very concerning revelations, and it feels like every week there's something new that causes greater and greater concern. it's certainly the constitutional duty of the senate to provide oversight in these investigations along with the house, and that's exactly what we should be doing right now. elizabeth: got it. senator schmidt, it's a pleasure having you on. >> great to be with you. elizabeth: this new nationwide push by the white house to get at your retirement savings for their political agendas. the fight is on to try to stop that. and former new york city public schoolteacher rachel joins us, she was fired for refusing to get the covid vaccine. she's got a 10-year track record of being a teacher. the outrage over that. also gop strategist ford o'connell takes it on as well on

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elizabeth: joining us now, gop strategist ford o'connell and former new york city public schoolteacher rachel -- thank you so much for joining us tonight. rachel, let's start with you. can you tell us what happened? this latest outrage, you were fired for refusing to get the covid vaccine, but you're a teach for a decade now. what happened? >> that's right. i was a special education and english teacher for just under ten years. i had tenure, i had a master's degree, i have 30 credits above that, i was at top pay. i was officially terminated august 19th of last year. now, mind you, that is months after our hypocritical mayor took off his unconstitutional and unlawful vaccine mandate for professional athletes and performers. that was back in march of last year. so that went away. then thousands of us were

terminated. and then the public sector, i'm sorry, the private sector mandate was lifted in november, and now here we are months after the private sector, months after the performers and athletes and, you know, this is finally happening for us as of this friday. elizabeth: are you rehired? have you been rehired? >> i have not. the statement that was put out by the mayor is quite disgusting, actually. it says that we can reapply for our positions. and, you know, this is really nothing but a punitive measure on his part. he wants to continue to punish us for going against his mandate to continue to punish us for not allowing our bodies to be injected with an experiment. and it continues because, or you know, i was at top pay, like i just said. why on earth would i reapply for a job that i dedicated a decade of my life to only to start at the bottom again with no tenure and, you know, a salary that is

very, very, very much less than what i was making, you know, originally? elizabeth: ford, this is an outright disgrace. it's a disgrace. it's not america. these are obnoxious bureaucrats. this is what's driving america crazy. firing good, solid teachers like rachel, cops fired, firemen fired, health workers because of vaccine mandates. and new york city mayor eric adams just willy-nilly got rid of the vaccine mandate for most city workers, but they may not automatically get hair jobs back. and just last month, new york governor kathy hochul had the rear thety to say retiring unvaccinated health care workers, quote, was not the right answer when she's going to fund raisers and parties with people who are not vaccinated. who do these people think they are? >> well, the entire new york city public employee vax mandate was entirely political. it was arbitrary and capricious. it didn't make sense legally,

politically, scientifically, economically. people like ray rachel should not only be reinstated, they should get back pay, and there should be a law passed that prevents this from -- elizabeth: how about a class action lawsuit? because it was overreach and unconstitutional. let's listen to this new york city fireman. watch this. >> i was a captain for the new york city fire department. i served for 20 years, and i went from being essential to being disposable from the mandates. i gave my best years to this city, 20 years from 21 to 41, and then they take it away at the peak of my earning career. i made it to captain. i was allowed to work in this city, but i wasn't allowed to eat in a restaurant in this city! >> thank you very much -- >> i was allowed to work through the pandemic, but i wasn't allowed to eat in a restaurant. i could wear the uniform, go to the burning building but not eat here. >> thank you very much -- >> what's wrong with you people?

the silence -- science. elizabeth: he's a firefighter. i have firemen in my family. they go into burning buildings. these people do not deserve on the fired. there were nearly 1800 city workers fired. teachers, cops. the head of the new york city police union, rachel, saying we hired everybody with back pay and without condition. that is what should happen, rachel, because now fd the a advisers are saying to your point it was an emergency use vaccine that was rush ared into, onto the pharmacy schells, and now it's t being red flagged for myocarditis, per procar diets, thrombosis and more. we need a real honest discussion instead of all the obnoxious bullying and the intolerance from the far left and democrats who bully the hell out of people when they asked questions like you did. >> absolutely. you know, there are, there are multiple lawsuits. i know the question was just asked what about a class action

lawsuit. there are multiple lawsuits on every angle. we have lawsuits about due process, about religious exemptions, about discrimination. you know, this is not a quince kens that this is happening at this time. eric adams is being inundated with lawsuits. he is looking at millions and millions of collars. one is filing for $250 million against the city of new york, 17 million personally taken out of eric add eric adams' checking account. instead of spending money on things like the rising crime in this city, he is fighting the people who want to work for this city, the people who have worked for this city for decades. he's fighting us. he's fighting against us. he's fighting to appeal the decisions that have been put in place by judges. you know, my friends, my colleagues, we are winning, and he is fighting us, and he is spending taxpayer money, and that is unacceptable. and i'll go one step further, we are also coming after the uft,

was they have not concern i'm glad you mentioned the other unions that are protecting their members, the uft has never once -- elizabeth: the teachers union. ford, you hear that? the teachers union's not stepping up. california is getting rid of, california's getting rid of its vaccine mandate for k-12. they fired hundreds of teachers out there. final word, ford. that's your home state. >> we've discussed this, liz, over and over. locking down american schools and hurting america's school children was the worst policy decision of the last several decades, and people need to pay a price because our kids have been irreparably harmed. elizabeth: thanks for joining us tonight. outrage now intensifying, democrats' demands for woke learning now turning away thousands of students across the country. they're rejecting that. also a new nationwide push to stop the white house getting at your retirement savings for their political agendas.

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that. you want that to grow through your retirement years. and to have a social agenda whether it's the environment, whether it's woke policy as any factor in that is simply wrong for the government to push you in that direction. if you can push investment fund managers and a company as to how they invest, then you can push them next as to who they should hire. so this is an overreach by the government. it needs to be blocked. i'm glad the senators are stepping up and saying this goes too far. elizabeth: well, it's investing in green energy flat tires. many of them went bankrupt under obama, and they're funded by u.s. tax money. let's watch bind's assistant secretary of labor -- biden's assistant secretary of labor, she is for the employee benefits administration. she claims this new rule is good and that it will, quote, level the play fromming field. watch this. playing field. >> we consider this rule to be a return to neutrality, and based on, you know, basic principles

of erisa, and the intent of the rule is to level the playing field so that plan fiduciaries can consider these esg factors in investing in the same way that they would consider any factors that would be relevant to risk and return analysis. elizabeth: governor, what is she talking about, neutrality, leveling the playing field? it's talking about leveling and flattening returns. uc-l.a. found esg investing underperforms the broader market. so they have a lot of nerve trying to go after trillions of dollars in our retirement savings for this kind of soft taxing the public into further supporting their radical, far-left agendas. >> it's going to hurt retirement funds, it's going to hurt retirees. and while they say you can consider these things, that's the heavy hand of the government saying you must consider these things. ask that's how it would be interpreted, and that will hurt

retirees, it will hurt everyone who wants to have a 401(k) that grows, and it hurts the economy from growing. so it makes absolutely no sense. it's an overreach. again, setting up that social, environmental, woke agenda of this administration and trying to overlay it to business decisions, and that's bad for business and it's bad for -- elizabeth: well, picking stocks not on merit and capital return, instead on ideology, it's insanity. this white house has gone off the rails with insane kind of moves like this. your final word. >> congress needs to keep an eye on it. that's why we have a are republican congress. make sure you watchdog over these things and stop these ridiculous are rules that hurt our economy and hurt individuals. elizabeth: governor asa hutchinson, thanks for joining us. tomorrow night we will cuts this further on "evening edit." indiana senator senator mike brawn is leading the charge. he's going to join us tomorrow night. outrage now intensifying.

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and the sciences including biology, chemistry and physics. >> a lot of other schools are latching on to the ideologies of the, quote-unquote, woke movement. hillsdale is rigidly firm in pursuing its core crick hum that has been around for a very long time -- crick curriculum, and that's rooted in the great books and ideas of western tradition, things that speak the truth. >> reporter: one e pert telling us core requirements at many colleges and universities are now a thing of the past. >> many colleges have gone to the a kind of a la carte or model, but schools like the university of dallas, hillsdale, francisco, benedictine, that have maintained and sometimes doubled down on a traditional core curriculum. >> reporter: the contrast may be growing. the state university of new york with 64 campuses has announced it will be infusing elements of diversity, equity and inclusion into its curriculum, seeking to close racial equity gaps,

eliminate academic barriers and recommit to its mission. those changes are expected to take effect this fall. liz? liz: interesting story. mike emmanuel, thanks for joining us. back with us more, washington examiner columnist, byron york. byron, your reaction to that. because suny new york colleges saying you cannot graduate unless you have a diversity, equity and inclusion degree even if you're studying to be a chemist or architect. what is going on with our colleges? >> well, this is an outgrowth of a generalized just explosion in administrators on u.s. campuses. and most campuses administrators outnumber professors by huge, huge numbers. and this stuff just keeps growing. and what we're seeing with diversity, equity and incollusion, we know, you know very well it's a big, big deal in all these corporations. the corporations that have very large departments. and the same is true now in

colleges. so it didn't take long for colleges to given offering degrees -- to begin offering degrees in dei where you can study it, get a degree and then get a job in a corporate dei department. that's what's going on. elizabeth: but, you know, it should be based on merit. it should be based on academia and your knowledge of the, you know, what the liberal school agenda used to be. byron, let's watch illinois governor pritzker slam states. he's saying that some states are, quote, banning books. that's not what's going on. he's also claiming people are choosing to move to illinois to get away from that. watch this. >> i think broadcasting our values here in illinois is good for the state of illinois. that we are opposed to banning books in the state of illinois, is something that people ought to know about us, that we are not interfering with the education system in the state, and other states are doing that. i think that whether we're

talking about businesses that are thinking about moving here or people that are thinking about moving here, people are choosing not to go to those states where they're restricting freedoms and, instead, coming to illinois where we're protecting them. elizabeth: illinois -- [laughter] historically is losing hundreds of thousands of taxpayers. they are the third largest of all states in terms of losing taxpayers because of high taxes and crime. and, you know, it's not about book banning, it's about stopping sexually-charged, inappropriate books for children. isn't that the story? >> and where are they going when they're leaving illinois, a lot of the upper mid western state thes and the northeast they're going to florida which is the big villain kind of in the pritzker ideology here. so this is clearly simply not happening. but we do have education being turned upside down. we have a new, a report in the "wall street journal" about texas tech.

their department of biological science is evaluating prospective professors, people who have applied to jobs to teach there for their -- dei seen from evaluations of potential professors, they were demerited. they were downgraded because they didn't show sufficient prix d appreciation for dei dogma. one professor treated all his students equally, and he was downgraded saying he did not show an understanding -- elizabeth: he didn't use the words -- yeah, he didn't use the word equity. yeah, that's the word. >> one more thing according to a heritage foundation report, at georgia tech there are 3.2 times as many people devoted to dei as there are history professors. elizabeth: byron york, thank you so much. so much. we'll be right back, stay right there.

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