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demanding hunter and james biden turn over documents for its investigation into the president and the biden family making millions of dollars selling access to the u.s. government around the world. and senator chuck grassley now has fbi whistle blowers who say the fbi has, quote, voluminous evidence of potential criminal activity by hunter and james biden. with us tonight, congresswoman cat cam act, winsome sears, former trump treasury official monica crowley, former fbi assistant director chris swecker, "the new york post"'s jon levine, michael shullen berger of the twitter files and carol roth. president biden again today shamelessly attacks the gop over social security. we've got the then-senator biden repeatedly saying, yes, cut social security, cut medicare, medicaid and v.a. benefits. plus, president biden also says he mishandled classified

documents since 1974? that's about the entire time he's been in washington. and house oversight goes after twitter for censorship during the pandemic, even doctors and lawmakers, and california governor gash newsome and the media try to attack arkansas governor sarah huckabee sanders. i'm elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: okay, we've got an alert coming in. check your money, stocks ending to the could be side. here is what's going on, wall street is starting to put big money on the bents that the federal reserve will start raising interest rates to 6%, possibly higher, to the fight high inflation. look at this, disney joins the growing list of companies doing layoffs, 7,000 jobs. a $5.5 billion cost-cutting program. disney there's lost -- disney+ lost a net 2.4 million streaming

subscribers, its first-ever loss, and florida is looking to take over the special taxing cricket. and president biden in florida today as the firestorm erupts over his record as senator to cut social security, medicare, medicaid and v.a. benefits. edward lawrence is live at the white house with more. good to see you. >> reporter: yeah, the president at the university of tampa today. he's on his way back ott the white house right now -- to the white house right now, but there weren't many recipients at a university. still, the president was going after republicans for what he says that they want to to block rain cut, those programs -- and cut. senator rick scott with his plan to sunset all federal practice after five years and saying that would target medicare and social security. so here's the prime minister -- president and the senate from today the. >> i reminded them that florida's own rick scott is the guy who ran the senate campaign committee for republicans last year, had a plan to sunset --

maybe he's changed his mind, maybe he's seen the lord. [laughter] but he wanted to sunset, meaning if you don't reauthorize it, it goes away. sunset social security and medicare every five years. >> i never suggested that. i said we've got to preserve them, all right? my plan i said we ought to tell the public how we're going to preserve them, but he wants to accuse us of something he's done, he's tried. he had a bill that would do it, and he's fought and fount and fought to cut medicare and social security. >> reporter: so on air force one the white house press secretary was asked can what the president's plan for social security and medicare was. her answer is the president's calling out republicans who, he says, wants to cut the program. in fact, the republicans say they don't want to make those cuts, but something must be done because in ten years the largest part of social security becomes insolvent, and the benefits automatically cut. in five years the hospital insurance in medicare becomes insolvent, and the payouts are cut. neither side has a specific

plan. late today, about 30 minutes ago, senator rick scott as well as seven other senators sent a letter to president biden asking him to support the fair act, talking about protecting medicare and social security if there's a default of the u.s. debt service, over the debt the service. elizabeth: what a fight. edward lance, thank you so much for your -- lawrence, thank you so much for your great report. congresswoman cat cam mack and former treasury secretary for public affairs for trump, monica crowley. congresswoman, what is your reaction to edward's report? >> oh, man. you know, it's just like the state of confusion that we had a few nights ago. he's making, again, false claims, trying to pin the blame on republicans while simultaneously ignoring the fact that in 1975 he called for cuts to social security and medicare. and then doubled down in the '90s on the floor of the senate saying that they should sunset those programs including

veterans' benefits. now today we know that his proposal includes cutting medicare advantage of which 48% of medicare users, they prefer that plan. so it's all about deflexion for the white house -- deflection for the white house, and i tell ya, people back home, they're not buying this. just like today he's at the university of tampa. he should have been delivering his speech at theville aages, but the folks wouldn't have let him off the hook like the students at the university of tampa. elizabeth: so what the congressman's saying, monica crowley, we've got the sound of then-senator biden saying everything the congresswoman was just talking about. watch this. >> i'm up for re-election this year, and i'm going to remind everybody what i kid at home, which is going to cost me politically. when i argued that we should freeze federal spending, i meant social security as well. i meant medicare and medicaid. i meant veterans' benefit -- i meant every single solitary thing in the government.

and i not only tried it once, i've tried it twice, i tried it a third time and i tried it a fourth time. somebody has to tell me in here how we're going to do this hard work without dealing with any of those sacred cows. i've introduced on four occasions, four occasions entire plans to balance the budget. i tried with senator grassley back in the '80s to freeze all of government spending including social security. including everything. paul ryan was correct when he did the tax code, what's the first thing he decided we had to go after? social security and medicare. now, we need to do something about social security and medicare. elizabeth: monica, that last sound bite was from 2018. what do you think? >> yeah. you know what? this is what you get when you have someone who's been in office for for a half a century. those past positions and statements will always come back to haunt you. and, look, joe biden was part of

a different democratic party back then. now it's the more of a revolutionary socialist party, and he is where all of the energy and activism are on that radical left. look, joe biden goes where the political winds will blow him, but what we've seen over the last couple of years is that, you know, it's absolutely necessary. his original position was correct, you do need to re-examine these programs and shore them up to make sure that we don't have a total collapse of them. you know, all of these democrats really embrace these entitlement programs, and they are guaranteed to the american people but not permanently. and unless and until we have real reform, those programs won't9 be there for future generations. we've been having this conversation, according to joe biden, for decades now, and nothing has been done. elizabeth: yeah. >> and if we don't act and act soon to preserve them, they're not going to exist at all. elizabeth: you know, i feel like breaking out the dipty do and knox seem ma, that's about as

long as we've been having these conversations -- [laughter] about reforming these entitlement programs. even bernie sanders calledded out joe biden on this in 2020, but then the president still continues to rip into republicans but shamelessly ignores his own track record here, congresswoman. >> yeah. think about this, i'm 34 years old, and do i really expect that social security is going to be there when i am of retirement age? no. not at at the rate that we're going. certainly -- elizabeth: but that's not fair. that's not father for workers who paid -- fair for workers who paid into it all these years. >> no, no, no. elizabeth: and it's so misleading how the democrats are handling this conversation. they're not speaking the truth to the american people as monica was just pointing out, congresswoman. >> that's true, 100%. and leadership starts with one owning the problem. not pointing fingers and deflecting blame. so if there's someone looking for leadership on this issue, you shouldn't be looking to joe biden, that much is clear.

but we look at the 71% mandatory spending that our federal budget really is, 71% is mandatory to social security and medicare, we're not cutting it, but how about we start going after the 20-25% waste, fraud and abuse so we can sustain those programs -- elizabeth: or we just blew money out the back door for pandemic relief -- [laughter] nearly 200 billion in jobless benefits as well that was blown out the back door, and they have the nerve to say we're going to get more, tenses of thousands more irs agents to go after taxpayer, and the president has the nerve to try to dismiss his bad polls in a rare sit-down interview with judy woodruff. he's been touting polls that go positive on him for his big government spending plan for years. let's watch this. >> when you look at the polls, cbs poll, 64% of americans think the economy's in bad shape. there's an nbc poll, 71% think the country's on the wrong track. why the disconnect?

>> because the polls don't matter anymore. you've got to make, what, 40, 50 calls on a cell phone to get someone to answer a poll? elizabeth: polls don't matter, monica? polls mattered to him when he was talking about the american rescue plan or the inflation reduction act for the blowout in climate. spending. is it any wonder ratings for the president's state of the union fell 29%? it was the least watched, nobody watched it, least watched in 30 years. voters are tuning out, they do not trust this president. even a majority of democrats don't want him to run again, says abc and the associated press polls. >> yeah. i mean, his personal polls and political polls have both crateredded. there was a recent nbc news poll that showed upwards of three-quarters of the american people find him dishonest, divisive, inif competent and lacking the physical and mental capabilities to actually do this job. now f his poll numbers were going in the other direction, of course he'd be touting those

powelling -- polls. that's just politics. we've seen our lived experience on the ground is pretty horrific between inflation, can't even i ford -- afford eggs, gas prices, supply chain crisis, it is an economic catastrophe across the board -- elizabeth: yeah, we're flatlining. >> yeah, absolutely. and this administration can spin all cay long, which is what he did the other night at his state of the union address, but the american people know better because their living it every -- they're living it every day. and that is why there is no enthusiasm for this man to run for president again. elizabeth tax hikes, inflation from government spending and interest rates going up. that's stag flaying. thank you for joining us tonight. look who's here, author and wall street pro carol roth. it's good to see you, thanks for joining us. california governor gavin newsom is attacking golf sarah huckabee sanders over crime in arkansas after the governor gave a blistering response to the president's state of the union. but, carol, we checked the

number, california ranked number one in total murders. arkansas is at 22nd. >> yeah. i mean, i drove through l.a. last weekend, unfortunately. the homeless encampments, the filth, the squalor, you know, everything like that is real. if you look back a year ago, newsom was gloating about having $100 billion surplus. now he's got a $20 the billion deficit. it wasn't so long ago, liz, that he faced an election recall. so maybe he should be attending to these issues that he has in his own backyard instead of heckling a governor who just got into the job. what's she supposed to do at this point? elizabeth: we're showing ann crew collins, an arkansas democrat who's defending governor sarah huckabee sanders. let's listen to the governor sanders again. this is what has gotten democrats in such an uproar and also the media. let's watch this. take a listen. >> democrats want to rule us with more government control, but that's not who we are.

i'm the first woman to lead my state, and the radical left's america washington taxes you and likes your -- lights your hard-earned money on fire. but you get crushed with high gas prices, empty grocery shelves, and our children are taught to hate one another on account of their race but not to love one another or our great country. and while you reap the consequences of their failures, the biden administration seems more interested in woke fantasies than the hard reality americans face every day. the dividing line in america is no longer between right or left. the choice is between normal or crazy. in washington the biden administration is doubling down on crazy. elizabeth: what do you think of that, carol? a choice between normal or crazy, the white house is doubling down on crazy, democrats are doubling down on crazy. do you agree with that? [laughter] >> i mean, i do. i do yee with concern agree with

that. and she also talked about this new generation of leadership that we need to have. and if you think about, you know, who's in the democratic party and has been there for generations, the bidens of the world, the pelosis, the bernie sanders, they have done nothing but crush the american dream. and on top of that, like you said, they're now not only crushing the american dream, but doing it with a dose of crazy. we need to get back to basics. we need people who are going to stand up and roll back the government so that the average american can participate in the american cream. elizabeth: we've got big media like the new york time, washington post predictably criticizing governor sanders. over her criticisms about culture wars. but they're ignoring governor sanders' correct economic criticism on how democrats overtax, overregulate. this government, i think they've added, like, 85,000 government positions urn the president. so, and they want to raise taxes and sic irs agents on people

when it's now being called, carol, the largest theft many in u.s. history. nearly $200 billion stolen in pandemic jobless bent fits. that's -- the benefits. it's a misspent rate of 20, carol. it doesn't even include the fraud in similar the plus checks and pandemic loans. what do you say to this? >> yeah. i mean, covid did cover for the enablement of the largest wealth transfer in history, liz, and it went from main street, the working class, the middle class to wall street, the well connected and, as you mentioned there, fraudsters. the democrats are no longer the party of the working class and the middle class. and the republicans really need to do the work if they want to step up and fill that role. and, unfortunately, we need to see some more action and not just the talk -- elizabeth: why should the u.s. taxpayer have to pay taxes for that fraud? they should claw that money back, absolutely claw that money back. it's unfair to the u.s.

taxpayer, carol. your final word. >> and there needs to be accountability. i want to see pensions from government people who oversaw these programs. i want to see people thrown in jail, liz. until we have accountability, the american people are still going to have to foot this bill over and over. nothing is going to change. elizabeth: carol roth, thanks for joining us tonight. it's good to see you. >> you too. elizabeth: we've got a big show. house oversight is going after twitter for its censorship on the pandemic, censoring even. >>s and lawmakers. it's not just the hunter biden laptop story. plus, a big fight breaking out between republicans and democrats in house judiciary today over weaponizing government to go after democrats' political enemies. and that includes school board parents. virginia lieutenant governor winsome sears joins us next on "the evening e edit." we're excited about that. >> went parent -- the when parents are granted by a terror attack by the fbi just for daring to speak up in local school board meetings, that is

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elizabeth: fox news' david spunt reporting on the fireworks today at the house judiciary hearing on the withinnyization of government agencies. gop says dozens of fbi

whistleblowers have already talked to them about political bias at the fbi and justice department. david spunt is live with the story. david. >> reporter: hi, good evening. house republicans have been waiting for years to actually hold this hearing. it became a reality because now they are in control of the house of representatives. and to no surprise, each side of the political aisle had completely different takes on this. watch. >> i've written over 50 oversight letters, and the vast majority of the questions i have asked is have either received an inadequate response or no response at all. >> millions of americans already fear that weaponization is right name for this special subis committee. subcommittee. not because weaponization of the government is its target, but because weaponization of the government is its purpose. >> reporter: so you see ron johnson, obviously, he's not in the house, but he served as a witness today. one of the primary concerns for

republicans, a school board memo put out by attorney general merrick garland in october 2021. parents that were fed the up with can covid restrictions and mandates across the country expressed themselves, sometimes many if heated fashion. in response, the national school boards association sent president biden a letter on september 29th, 2021, arguing some parents' actions at those meetings could be considered, quote, a form of domestic terrorism and hate crimes. the group later apologized. your seeing merrick garland on your screen because five days after the letter, barland wrote his memo instructing law enforcement to investigate. to be clear, garland does not use the word terrorism or even the word parent in his memo, but there's been no clear answer if an investigation was ever opened. house judiciary sent a subpoena to both attorney general garland and fbi director christopher wray asking both of them to produce documents by march 1st, less than a month away, relating to the school board memo. fox news is told doj responded

last night to chairman george can and his committee specifically asking for some negotiation cans at a staff level before subpoenas are involved. a spokesperson for jordan tells me they're moving ahead with subpoenas. back to you. elizabeth: great reporting as always. great to see you, my friend. look who's here, we are so excited to have virginia lieutenant governor winsome sears, outspoken about the school board in virginia. what is your reaction to that report? democrats in the white house are dismissing the hearing today as just a political stunt. >> i'm going to tell you, liz, that from where i sit, here's how i see it: i don't care about fbi director wray, i don't care about attorney general garland. you know, the way i see them, they're peon, compared to the president. so i'm talking directly to the to the president. mr. president, you hired these people and rehired wray. the american people want you to

come out, sir, and say that the buck stop stops with you, that you are going to get to the bottom of this and find out whether it is true or not. and if it's true, you're going to take decisive action. because we heard during the state of the union, mr. president, that you said you get it. you said you hear us. do you? do you get it? are you hearing us, or was that just a speech? so, mr. president, this is on you. and you need to get to the bottom of this, sir. that's what leadership does. elizabeth: so, i lieutenant governor, we've never, we haven't seen the evidence of what came out of these investigations targeting school board parents as threats at school board meetings and prosecuting them when appropriate. that's what the doj and a.g. wanted to do, what the fbi director wanted to do. they were using counterterrorism assets to do that. have you seen any evidence that the school board parents were a threat in anyway? i mean, they were upset. we're showing video of a parent

angry and furious that the his daughter was raped at a high school and then that rapist then, alleged, was put to another school. and there was a cover-up of that. can you talk about owl of that -- all of that, what i just said? >> this is the very nature of why i said we need the president, the president to come out to the american people and say i represent all of you. and if i were a parent, i would want to know if my fbi, if my department of justice is against me. and we don't care about the congressmen who are bloviating about if there is true or that is true. mr. president, this is on you. this is your watch. you are the president of the nation, and you've got to take responsibility, sir. you just have to. because, you see, parents tried to get to a school board meeting to say my daughter was raped, and it could -- it didn't have to happen. but because of policies, people who are gone rogue on school

boards, my daughter wasn't safe. help me, sir. that was a parent crying out, an american citizen crying out for his government, for redress. imagine that, for redress. and he was hauled away like a dog. we need our president to come before a camera and say, this is it, i am doing the investigating, i have heard you. elizabeth but he's not doing that. he's not doing that. >> we want somebody to be accountable. elizabeth: but he's not doing that. >> you know? instead of trying to figure out how to run for re-election, how about you do the job you have now, sir? let's get that done right, and then maybe you can think about 2024. you've got a job now. do that job and prove that you're capable. that's all we want. that's all the people want. the people want accountable government. the people want responsible government. how difficult can that be? that shouldn't be controversial. that's not a democrat talking or a republican talking point.

that's a common sense, nonchaotic, sensible talking point. elizabeth: lieutenant governor, we'd like to, please, get your reaction to the fireworks over what happened today in the judiciary hearing, watch. >> in my time in chong, i have never seen anything like this, fbi agents, whistle blowers, coming to us talking about what's going on, the political nature at the justice department. >> attorney general garland charged his newly-created domestic terrorism unit with those who hold, quote, anti-authority views. that included parents who dared to protest at board of education meetings concerned and standing up for their right for themselves to have a say in their children's education. >> do you consider parents as domestic terrorists? >> i do not consider parents as domestic terrorists. no, i do not. >> this was a set iup, and service the setup, and it's the real definition of weaponization of the government against the american people. and it's not just the example of targeting parents at school

boards associations,st -- it going back ott the opening of crossfire hurricane, to the faulty fisa application, it goes back to what we heard on that that first panel from senators grassley and johnson. it goes back to the suppression illegally of the hunter biden laptop story paid for by the u.s. taxpayers. elizabeth: congresswoman stefanik was getting testimony from a former fbi agent there. so the reaction today uniformly has been there's a real sickness inside the doj and fbi when you see what happened. i mean, the weaponization is significantly hurting school board parents. so far, again, this doj, fbi, they haven't given the public if any update on these investigations, lieutenant governor, nor do you realize examples of parents making threats against school boards. there's unruly conduct and the like, but we haven't seen the threats yet. >> nobody has seen -- they don't exist. these are just regular folks,

regular folks wanting to understand what happened at school. that's all there is to it. what happened to my daughter? what policies are you enacting that are against me as i'm trying to raise my children a different way? and this is why, one reason why i put together the education savings account bill so that parents can finally have the opportunity to decide where to send their children to school. because if this is the kind of government that we're getting, then just give me mechanics my tax money so that i can make a decision the for my child. that's it. elizabeth: that sounds like a great idea. we'll be on that story. lieutenant governor swingsome everything sears, thanks for joining us. >> service the my honor. elizabeth: okay, we're coming into the bottom of the hour. you're watching the fox business network. president biden now commits he mishandled classified documents since 1974? that would be about the entire time he's been in washington.

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shutting down debates. listen to this. >> i, along with many americans, was a long-hauler, and i have effects from the vaccine. it wasn't the first shot, but it was the second shot that i now developed asthma that has never gone away since i had the second shot. i have tremors in my left hand, and i have to caigal heart -- occasional heart pain. i find if it extremely alarming twitter's unfetteredded censorship spread into medical fields. you're not a doctor, right? what makes you think you have the medical expertise to censor actual, accurate cdc data? elizabeth: michael, what's your reaction? >> well, i thought it was a fascinating day. there was a lot that was going on yesterday, but i definitely think we saw both twitter and facebook completely inappropriately censoring legitimate debate, legitimate

questions, legitimate opinions including ones expressed by very eminent people in their field including a harvard medical professor, a stanford medical professor. not that it should matter, necessarily, because we do have freedom the of speech. these are private platforms, and i think the ultimate solution is they need to have transparency about how they're making these content moderation decisions as a condition of having special privileges afforded to them by section 230 of the communications decency act which is what creates their financial viability as a business. but i kid think we saw as well a shocking number of people wanting more censorship on social media platforms, and i just think that runs against who we are as americans and what makes us a great country. elizabeth: to your point, they were putting on twitter blacklists dr. jay batchly ya, he opposed vaccines for children, and now you have fda advisers saying no to an annual booster shot for everybody, not everybody should get one, and

don't get it at the same time as your flu shot because it induces stroke in some individuals. so that information is just now coming out, michael. but there was a wild exchange between congresswoman lauren e bow bert and twitter's safety head, yoel roth. lauren boebert was also basically censored. let's watch this fight. oh, we don't have it. i'm sorry, we didn't get that sound. but, you know, the thing is, it's censoring doctors, and it's censoring lawmakers too. >> yeah, that's right. i thought there was many interesting exchanges. we could spend a fair amount of time, but that was, they were definitely censoring factual information, legitimate information. and it's not just twitter, by way. facebook went to the white house and told the white house that they were censoring accurate information in order to avoid vaccine hesitancy, quote-unquote. we also saw is representative alec ocasio-cortez yesterday commanding censorship of tiktok

for basically sharing a video from the boston children's hospital, and there was a slight exaggeration. i looked into this issue around the age of the kids that were getting hysterectomies, but nonetheless the underlying reality is there's very controversial medical procedures that are worthy of social debate. and the response from a congressperson to want to censor or shut down that account or censor those tweets, i think, is chilling and kiss the turning when you consider it's congress that has the power that gives these social media companies their license to operate. if heir going to demand anything, it should be greater transparency, not greater censorship. elizabeth: to your point, that is a constitutional first amendment -- we do have that sound. watch this. >> mr. roth, while at twitter, how many meetings did you have with the fbi? >> i couldn't say for sure -- >> more than 10? >> that's a reasonable estimate. >> more than 0 the? >> i couldn't say for sure. >> as mr. dorsey testified on

multiple occasions, twitter changed its policy within 24 hours and admitted its initial action was wrong. in hindsight, twitter should have reinstated the post account immediately. >> you silenced me from communicating with the american people over a freaking joke. now, who the hell do you think that the you are? election interference? yeah, i would say that that was taking place because of you four sitting here. the hunter biden laptop story was suppressed. 9 a sitting member of congress was suppressed. a stating -- sitting president was banned from twitter. elizabeth: michael, what concerns you about all of this? you know, people out there on msnbc, cnn, say this is the right-wing, tinfoil hat conspiracy stuff. but it's government documents,st the, you know, we're seeing records coming in, we're seeing e-mails and texts. is this all really conspiracy sufficientsome. >> yes. i mean, no -- [laughter] congressperson bow bert is absolutely in her right to be

very concerned about having had what they at twitter called aggressive visibility filtering without her knowledge for three months. censoring politicians, that's interfering in elections potentially. that's a very serious issue. and i think progressives and democrats when they think about it are not going to want to have those policies corrected existence their candidates either. elizabeth: good point. michael shellen beggarrer, come back soon. okay, this story coming out, house oversight is ramping it up demanding documents from hunter biden and james biden for its investigation into president biden and the biden family making millions 06 dollars selling access to the obama white house around the world. plus, senator chuck grassley drops a bombshell, fbi whistleblowers say the fbi has, quote, voluminous evidence of potential criminal conduct by hunter and james biden? and also the president commits he mishandled classified documents since 1974. that would be about the entire time he's been in washington.

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the of my knowledge, the kinds of things they've picked up are things from 1974, stray papers. there may be something else i don't know. >> just possessing classified documents is, you said, totally irresponsible. so what was totally irresponsible about the fact that you have them? >> what -- they've informed me not to speak of this issue. [laughter] >> little late for that. elizabeth: little late for that, right? is. >> you see why he doesn't give many interviews. it shows he's been mishandling classified documents for his whole career, back to 1974. no one believes this is justs a one-off incident. there's probably classified documents scattered about, homes and addresses and places that have been associated with the biden for decades. has anybody checked the university of delaware where they have thousands of boxes of his paperses they won't let anyone see, and the house hunter

was staying in while he was doing deals with the chinese? liz, if you were found with classified documents in your home, you'd go to jail. elizabeth: yeah. of it's happened to other people, to your point. you see how he's trying to blame his own workers. whieshed they have to go through his papers for classified documents when it's illegal for them to be there anyway? >> you know that famous expression, the buck stops with your executive assistant. obviously, he's the one who's ultimately responsible if his papers are found in his house. i know that the fbi has been speaking with kathy chung, his executive assistant who was involved in packing up the boxes, and she is someone i know the house oversight committee does want to talk to. elizabeth: notice how he tries to diminish and spin this as 1974 straight papers. imagine all the people who could have seen what that was about since 1974. >> no, i mean, that makes it worse. that makes it worse. it shows there's a pattern of doing this from the very beginning of his career. elizabeth: wow. jon levine, we'll have you back

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connected with the communist chinese regime. other whistleblower disclosures to my office a made clear that the fbi has within its possession very significant, impactful and voluminous evidence with respect to the potential criminal conduct by hunter and is james biden. these disclosures also allege that joe biden was aware of up hunter biden's business arrangements and may have been involved in some of them. elizabeth: chris, that's quite a bombshell there. what's your reaction to potential criminal conduct? what could that mean? >> yeah. well, i'm not a big fan of congressional hearings, but in this case a good dose of sunlight is going to do everybody somed good, because i think there are just too many examples now of the fbi basically taking sides. you know, the backdrop to the that is probably much longer than we have to cuts here today. but,,s we'll hear from these witnesses. let's see.

if there's criminality, and i've been told there's criminality there and what i've seen -- elizabeth: who ease told you there's been criminality? who's told you that. >> sources that i have. i'm not going to the kiss the close my sources inside fbi or outside of the fbi, people associated with the fbi. and my own eyes. i'm a former prosecutor, i can look at the case, look at the facts here, the public source data, and i can tell you that there's a high potential, it's enough to open up an investigation and go the a grand jury at least, based on the attorney general guidelines that we operate under. elizabeth: now we've got house oversight chair james comer demanding hay deliver classified and unclassified documents, e-mails and more. it's pretty extensive what they're asking for, not sure they're going to turn it over. hunter biden's lawyers are fighting it. what do you make of that? >> again, another fight over documents. they shouldn't be fighting over classified documents because they shouldn't have them in the

first place. none of this information is privileged if it's in the hands of hunter biden. it's already, you know, a lot of it's already on his lap op, the they're just trying to corroborate things they've already found that, you know, that are in evidence. they were given a reseat, the computer repairman was given a receipt that the had an fbi money laundering file on it. so we know there's an ongoing investigation there, ask we know that there was plenty of evidence on the laptop alone, let alone other witnesses like tony bobulinski. i'm told that this case is sitting on the desk of the u.s. attorney in delaware, and he needs to just make a decision. elizabeth: all right. chris swecker, thank you so much for your insights and perspective. we really admire you and appreciate having you on. come back soon, okay? >> thank you, liz. liz: we'll be right back withms stay right there. remember this? but i spoke to our advisor, and our vanguard investments are on track.

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