administration saying that they let down some of the restrictions on transportation, safety restrictions and did away with some of the regulations. he said it is up to congress now to bring those safety regulations back to make the entire transportation system that much safer. so that is the latest from mr. buttigieg. dagen: thank you. here is the trivia question. which future president's plane was shot down in world war ii? i know the answer to this one but i let you two first, ash. who you got? >> i think i do stu. george h.w. bush. dagen: you are correct. he was shot down on a bombing run on an island. he was rescued by a submarine. that is it for me. "coast to coast" starts right now. sean: we've been watching the same presser going on with pete buttigieg in ohio. we're finishing to learn a lot more how the train derailment

happened in the first place in ohio three weeks ago. we're a long way knowing what happens now. the national transportation safety board released a preliminary report what caused the 150 car norfolk southern train to buckle, eventually crash in east palestine back on february 3rd. for its part norfolk southern has launched a website detailing the on going clean up efforts and updating residents on air and water safety data. but south carolina congresswoman nancy macy's that is not enough. both parties should use the moment to tighten rail safety all together across the board t might be a while for east palestine to get back to business. across the country restaurants and bars already are. that is not necessarily good news. jon taffer is here from "bar rescue" on the new pressure they're under. he is here to help them. but first, welcome everybody, i'm neil cavuto. great to have you. let's go to mike tobin in east palestine, ohio, and how things are going there.

>> reporter: neil, secretary buttigieg is still speaking but we do have some answers from him. first of all why did it take almost three weeks for him to show up here. he said he was trying to strike a balance between his desire to be on the ground to try to help the people here, what he said was following the norms laid down by past secretaries of transportation, to let the ntsb get on the ground and do their work and do their thing without interference from him. he has said that he wants to hold norfolk southern accountable, particularly as it waits, relates to making the people out here whole again, whole again. he wants to increase rail safety. he took a jab at the trump administration indicating he believed they eased up on tree trickses during the trump years. called on congress to make some changes, get those regulations back in place but the one message that secretary buttigieg keeps going back to is that he believes he is here to help the people of east palestine. >> i want them to know they're

not alone. before, during, after the national attention they're going to have support. they're going to have support from us when it comes to holding norfolk southern accountable. they're going to have support from the epa when it comes to making sure they get accurate information about the safety of their air, water and soil and i think they can have support, they ought to have support from the whole country that has seen what they have been through above and beyond -- the point to make sure they're taken care of for the long run. >> reporter: in about an hour we expect to hear from the national transportation safety board. but they have already released a written report about their preliminary findings. frankly doesn't tell us a whole lot we didn't already know. one of the things we got from this preliminary report is a number of sensors, even civilian video detected that some of the wheel bearings on that train were getting hot leading up to the crash. at one point the mile post sensors picked up a dramatic increase in temperature.

the report goes on to say that the train engineer stopped the train, looked out, saw the fires and reported that there had indeed been a derailment. the report also talks about the decision for thet it for this hazardous material. vinyl chloride, a component in plastic. the report says that it could tell that the railcars that had derailed with the fire they were getting hot. they were going, concerned it was going to change the chemical composition of the vinyl chloride that was in 11 of the railcars that were, that had derailed at that point. they were concerned that would cause an explosion. so the decision was made for a shape charge to puncture a hole in the railcars, to drain off that potentially flammable, potentially explosive material and if you remember back to february 3rd, the official from norfolk southern said they made the decision to put flares into the ground to set it on fire that resulted in the giant plume of smoke, and all the

fallout we've seen to this point. neil? sean: thank you for that mike tobin in east palestine. by the way we talk about norfolk southern and financial hit it had, market watch reporting a few minutes ago, overall market cap, norfolk southern's market cap has melted by $6.7 billion since the february derailment. that is what happens when your stock slides better than 10% since all this occurred. we will keep you posted on that. right now congresswoman nancy mace with us from south carolina. she said this might be an opportunity toe revisit those safety concerns. leading a bipartisan push for that for our nation's rail system. congressman, always good to have you. >> thank you, neil, great to be back on. sean:

neil: what do you make of this? >> i appreciate your position on that. the buck stops there. they're the ones that had the train cars derate. seems like, sounds like based on governor's comments there, the reason that the explosion happened, the we saw the plumes of smoke, therefore for the last three weeks, people have seen horrific videos and photos of dead animals, of people that are explaining their ailments, they can't, they're afraid to drink the water. and can't go back to their homes. and so, i think that someone needs to take responsibility for this. it is good to see that happening but, you know, we've got, i think, that there is some fault here laid at federal level too. even the state level. i don't think there is any necessarily innocent parties here. this is huge issue, one of the largest environmental disasters in my lifetime. that is affecting thousands and thousands of people and quite frankly took three weeks for the secretary of transportation to get there as well. we all got to work together on this. i do believe this would be an opportunity. i hope it will be an opportunity to do that in this congress to

fix the problems that we're having with the rail. neil: you mentioned, congresswoman, secretary of transportation pete buttigieg, he pointed the finger at the trump administration easing up on safety rules and standards. a lot of that easing up if you want to call it that, predates the trump administration, goes back to more than a decade but having said that, do you think that we have to tighten these up to the point get back to where we were, not only back to where we were, toughen up standards that allow a train carrying dangerous, hazardous material even a single car in a 150-car train to report, notify communities through which its passing? >> right. well it doesn't help when you're just simply pointing fingers. some of the information we got out of the department of transportation regarding the previous administration, some of it was accurate, some of it has not been accurate. pointing fingers doesn't help

anybody. it doesn't resolve the situation and it is partisan politics. you know just a few weeks after the derail men and explosion in ohio we had a train derail here in south carolina. come to find out there are over 1000 incidents in the last year. so clearly this is something that needs to be reviewed. i want to read the report on what happened in ohio but also what else is happening all around the country and review the standards, how do we work together to insure the safety of everybody no matter the precious cargo that they're carrying. so we have a lot of work to do ahead of us on this issue. we have to stop pointing fingers at the opposite party to work together on this sort of thing so we can save lives, save our communities and keep people safe. neil: while i have you, i hate to leave it into crass politics but that is kind of what i do as well, south carolina -- >> i know you love doing this, neil. hit me with it. neil: it is awful but i did want to get your take on fellow

south carolinaians, former governor, senator tim scott, in his case teasing a presidential run. what do you think? >> i think it is amazing to see the kind of leadership coming out of the state of south carolina. both of them are constituents of mine. i sit behind tim scott at church and nikki haley, i will be quite frank, was the only federally elected official that had my back when i was primaried last year by the former president. by the way we won big with her support. so i am dear friends with hers well. i haven't weighed in on '24 yet. i've been very vocal what i believe we need to do as a country. i would love nothing more than to see a woman on the ticket. she is qualified. she has foreign policy experience. she has executive experience. there are some qualified women out there. to see someone like her in the ring, in the arena, talking about issues that she believes in is awesome. i hope that we'll see more of that. it is going to be a very interesting primary i believe on

both sides of the aisle. but the future i believe for our country could be very bright. it is exciting to have two constituents being talked about so much. one of the surprising thing, neil, race civil, sexism thrown nicky's way. i see it myself as female member of congress. very disappointing to see that. it is very eye-opening last two weeks. neil: memory serves me right, congressman, you won that race substantially on your own. a lot of people were helping, vouching for you. i think you did that on your own. we'll see what happens. always good having you. >> thank you, sir. thank you very much. neil: be well, nancy mace, south carolina. i want to go to stacy finster runs a company healthier, a startup helping folks in east palestine deal with this, including providing thousands of bottles of water, comprehensive health screening kits. she put into this practice how can i help. she is helping.

stacy, very good to have you. what is the reaction you got from residents when they saw all of this stuff? >> neil, thank you for having me. i have to two days ago when i was on the ground, there was blue, sunny skies in east palestine but there was definite worry and concern from the residents. they just don't know where they're supposed to start. i can tell you they were very welcoming and very much appreciative what we were able to bring to east palestine. neil: so you know, the bottled water, everything else you had a chance to see for yourself, stacy, how they're feeling. a lot of authorities are reassuring them, water is fine, air is fine. are they, did you get a sense they're buying that or still nervous about it, even nervous about living there? >> very nervous. with lots of questions. just not knowing where to start with their health journey which is why we were so excited to bring the thousand comprehensive

health and wellness tests to the residents, to allow them to get a baseline what's going on inside of their body. neil: your business, and in general, in this environment, where you know, we're seeing so many under the gun with higher prices and the rest, you know, you could make an argument, you could i ill-afford to do this, stacy. why? >> i did this, i grew up two hours outside of east palestine. in fact my dad, neil, still lives 45 minutes outside of east palestine. neil: oh, wow. >> i've seen images the last two weeks just like everyone else in america, right? what bothered me what i wasn't seeing on tv. it was what i wasn't seeing. this is small town america, this is where we take care of their neighbors. i stepped up. our team stepped up. we quickly reached out to the

mayor. we had boots on the ground 48 hours later. neil: you're a very good person, stacy. you didn't have to do that but you did, maybe has effect of paying it forward, this follows suit. stacey finster healthyr ceo. we will go to a break. wanted to let you know mortgage rates in the latest week at 6.05%. by the way that is the highest level we've seen since back in november. between that and federal concerns concernses that the federal reserve that we'll see more fed governors, district presidents prefer half-point than quarter point hike add up to stocks going down. wheel see how long that lasts. another worry, outside worry of the market what is is going on with china and taiwan. you might have heard we're sending more troops to taiwan over the next few months. it is not a record number but interesting it's a very low

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♪. neil: all right. you might have heard once or twice things are pretty tense between ourselves and the chinese. this is probably added to the temperature. edward lawrence at the white house now, our plan to expand a troop presence in taiwan. what are they talking about, edward? >> reporter: expansion of the defense of taiwan. u.s. official confirming to fox that the u.s. military will send 100, to 200 more u.s. troops into taiwan to expand a training program that is going on there. as part of that too a larger group of taiwanese troops will come to the united states to train on u.s. military equipment. now a defense department spokesperson would not confirm troop movements but said this in a statement, our commitment to taiwan is rock solid and contributes to the maintenance of peace and stability across the taiwan strait an within the region. senator mike lee of utah says

president biden needs to the walk a line. >> this involves a quadrupling we've got there. will amount to no more than a couple hundred. it's a small presence. a presence there to provide training, not to fight battles. >> reporter: so this announcement comes as russia, china, and south africa hold joint naval training exercises off the coast of south africa. the russian ship involved has hypersonic weapons which has been a controversial on board although through a translator here is what the russian captain said about that listen. >> translator: they will be helping a vessel captured by pirates. it will be carrying out of artillery fire on objects at sea. with regards to hypersonic weapons they won't be used during this exercise. >> reporter: south africans say the exercise was scheduled two years ago, long before the invasion of ukraine. what it shows the close, deep relationship between china, south africa and russia. both of those countries are also

buying russian oil. back to you. neil: edward, thank you for that. edward lawrence. let's go to kirk lippold, former uss cole commander. what do you think of our sending these troops to taiwan? it is still a low level of all, most 200 versus 30 a year ago. still the chinese a apoplectic. what do you make of it? >> neil, thank you for having me on your show. first the u.s. trains militaries around the world by putting troops there, bringing some of their people here, some into our schools, some to training facilities for various weapons systems. doing this with taiwan is consistent what we do with other nations across the globe and the fact that the chinese are getting upset, i think they're more upset u.s. is sending a very strong, subtle signal we intend to continue to aid taiwan in their ability to defend their island nation from any cross strait threats china may have because they always view taiwan

as a renegade province. they make it very clear they want to take it over. we're sending a signal that we make sure they do not maintain that capability, the close relations, if they can be anywhere close particularly with russia and vladmir putin will hold a meeting in the coming weeks we're told. add to that we're getting indications they might provide weaponry for the russians in ukraine, maybe lethal weaponry at that what do you think? >> well, two things. first is, neil, they would love to have a relationship with the russians because the russians do have some advanced technology that the chinese no doubt would want to steal, to be able to leverage to improve their weapons systems themselves. by the same token, the fact they may be giving russia lethal weapons, right now the fact we could leak the intelligence on that is actually irrelevant. what the united states should be doing, we prepare for, evaluate, and lies, say yes, china is on the cusp of giving russia lethal

weaponry we should be working with our economic partners like the chamber of commerce and others to make sure that we have a rock solid plan in place that should china do that, what are going to be the consequences? what are we going to do with any sanctions we may want to put into place economically, diplomatically. we need to make sure these get clearly telegraphed to the chinese. should they choose to weaponize russia in their fight in ukraine, there will be consequences and this is how severe they will be. we should do it in a manner that serves as a deterrent, not as a reaction. neil: you know you would think, you're the military expert but i'm a bit of a numbers nerd and i look at the numbers and what china would risk going knee deep to help russia, possibly getting sanctioned, knowing what it knows how russia has been isolated economically to say nothing politically in the whole world, why would it, a far

bigger economy risk that type of behavior now doing this? >> neil, i think it foes right to my previous point. china is willing to do these things because they see it as furthering their national security interests. what we need to do is make sure the chinese understand and the u.s. should do it in concert with other western democracies, should china choose to arm russia, the consequences to their economy will be severe. yes, that will also hurt our economy and other western democracy economies but the consequences of not doing that, will enable a relationship between two dictators and their countries and how they're run. china is the big one on the block. they are the primary national security threat to the united states. they are not, they are a, more than a competitor. they are in fact an adversary. all you have to do is look at the fact that they have killed 100,000 americans with precursor chemicals to the drug cartels but, when you look at what

they're about to do with weaponizing, that is something the united states should not brooke and make sure that china clearly understands what the consequences will be if they do that. neil: kirk lippold. good seeing you again. >> you as well, neil. neil: before we go to break we are getting a report from "the new york times," doing own separate investigations of the norfolk southern train crash, apparently the alarms did not go off when they should have gone up with the train type of derailment. while a wheel bearing steadily heating up throughout ohio, an alarm did not go up until a register on the wheel reached 253 degrees. this is building on a ntsb report quantified the same thing. two sensors did not register high enough to trigger an alarm. how is it that a alarm did not two off until it was too little

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♪. neil: all right. we are still tracking this nasty storm. you're looking at the scenes in

minnesota an boston, milwaukee, wisconsin, as this continues to barrel east. i think i got it wrong. it is close to 80 million americans in the path of this monster. have been, will be. let's go to robert ray. if it is horrific out there, he goes to the worst possible place to report on it. has no fear. he is in, i think lansing, michigan, right now. how are things looking over there? >> reporter: yeah, neil, good afternoon to you. you see it is a completely iced over road in lansing, the state capital, as the vehicle makes its way slowly down the road. this is one of many neighborhoods. trees are completely frozen, iced over. many tree limp -- limbs cracked up. here amped in southern michigan. unfortunately we're approaching nearly 800,000 people out of power in the state of michigan right now.

the detroit energy company is saying that there are literally thousands of power lines that are down. they're trying to restore all those. i have to be careful walking here. i show you one of the power lines that is down. i will not get too close to this. look at this. we zoom in, see the wires just split. they have got the black casing around it. you see some of the thank thaw. the water starting to drip. we're at this point. here is the bad news, neil. we go into a deep freeze tonight. tomorrow morning i'm reporting live with the team, it will be in the low teens and we're going to be in a situation where all of this that is beginning to get a little wet and, sort of you know, kind of thaw out is going to be frozen again. as a matter of fact, as i stand here, you know that candy "pop rocks" you put in your mouth? you put it in your mouth, here

it in your ears popping? that is what everything sounds like on the streets because of the thaw. here is the thing, i mentioned trees earlier, neil. we see massive tree limbs be cracked because of the weight. the weight of ice, quarter inch of ice on these limbs, electrical poles, actually ways hundreds of pounds, five to 700-pounds. everything is falling down and they're having all these outages. meantime, that is the slush. this was pure ice a couple hours ago. later tonight it will be pure use ice all over again. this storm is not over. in the northeast they're getting symptoms so to speak of winter in new hampshire, vermont, if you can believe it, i will talk to you again next week, we have another system that is beginning to oil up, not only a severe system in oklahoma an kansas, but another winter system in the upper midwest. will it ever end?

will we ever smell flowers? i think we'll have to go to a florist to get that feeling at this point, neil. back to you. neil: seems like once a week, every two week events. wild stuff. robert ray, be safe. watch the ice. we'll take a switch here look what is going on at the corner of wall and broad. investors no doubt feeling iced out, dow, s&p, nasdaq. had been worse for the nasdaq now under a half a percent loss. ray wang, watching it closely, constellation research ceo, author of everyone wants to rule the world. technology looked like it was coming back. all of sudden right now is hicking up. i'm wondering which is real, the pressure they're under now, meta, others talking about big layoffs, google talking about workers sharing desks. that seems to be a sign they don't think it is over. >> no i think the tech companies overhired. they cut back now.

what they're doing right now is get everyone back into work. the outside perks are gone. the lax reporting standards, employee reviews are done, right? get back into work. let's get back to business. that is let us all move forward. that is the message being sent across the valley. neil: i'm glad you mentioned the whole back to work thing, companies insisting on it. some are not taking that lightly, workers for example, at amazon don't like push four-days a week work in the office. they're fighting it. i don't know the status right now of google where they're a little bit more flexible, but not a lot more. in google's case, they're telling them to share deskses. what do you think of all of this, where it is going? that is kind of like a worker revolt going on. >> tech workers were special at one point in time. they're very hard to find. they got amazes perks. they could work from home. covid hit. future of work. can work remote.

can live anywhere you want. reality set in, pendulum swung back. we know you're a lot more productive, maybe not at work. that two hour commute is probably not productive. so let's make it more meaningful when you do get to work. i think that is what google is trying to do. hey, when you're here in the office, we don't have enough space. this is the rules of the road. we don't have a desk. cleanliness for the desk. this is how it is organized. is your partner. you have a bigger neighborhood. they are set for the next cartoon. neil: i did finally want to get your thoughts whether tech, while it has sold off, most of the big names that we touched on, amazon, apple, microsoft, and all, are still up for the year and in the case of tesla of course, up a lot for the year. so, is this recent selloff overkill? in other words when it comes to some big tech names, i'm not saying they're selloff proof but

holding up remarkably well? >> they're holding up well despite what is going on with the uncertainty on interest rate hikes that will happen with the fed, but the reason they're holding up well has been a lot of demand around a.i., right? these are companies that all have resources to actually compete in building the next a.i. capabilities. a lot of talk of chatgpt. but the bigger thing do you have the data, do you have compute power? can you actually use that data to get it to hundreds of millions of people and that is what these companies are able to do, meta, apple, oracle. you look at google, amazon, microsoft, they all fit that bill. neil: got it. always good seeing you, ray. thank you. ray wang. >> take care. neil: all right. we have a lot of great guests on this show. one of my favorite, jon taffer will join us. what i love about jon, he has a gruff exterior. i can tell you he is a mush. i mean that only in the kindest way. he cares. he has never forgotten

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bawling at that. >> they're not. revenues are up 20% from pre-pandemic levels. we don't have the employees. we're fighting with prices. we're not getting the same spec, meaning a chicken breast comes in a different size each time. neil: is that right? >> that is not a small matter. now doesn't fit on a bun properly. takes longer to cook. they don't know how to cook it. these things changed the way we operate. the big thing i think impacting us the most is 10 at that tiffness. there is hesitancy in all small business operators i see because of the economic environment we're in, human resource environment we're in today. they're scared to commit to marketing plans. they're scared to commit to promotions. they're scared of their employees. we can't have turnover. we can't keep employees we have. there is a general fear, this tentativeness out there. even though the restaurants are packed, we're not seizing the opportunity like we should. neil: i have a couple of friends of mine are restaurant owners, not to the degree you were and are, they say to a man or woman that it's hard to keep kids,

even those with a bad attitude because, they don't want them to leave. so they will put up with someone who has a hang nail says i can't show up today, i'm exaggerating making a point. but they rule the roost. >> you're exactly right. we used to define the standards. they would perform up to those standards. neil: right. >> we find ourselves reducing standards to much employees we can find. that's scary, neil. that is formula forefailure. neil: jon, customers seem patient even now but there is a short leash on that. if it keeps up you will lose your customers. >> and you lose revenues. parish shens, a terrible turned in 45 minutes turns in an hour and 15 minutes. that affects revenue as well. this fighting the reinvention of our business. restaurant subscriptions are interesting. some restaurants now are selling subscription. say there is a popular restaurant here in new york you love. you can't get a seat. it is always sold out. you pay $150 a month for

subscription. get guaranteed seat first thursday every month. you know you could have dinner in your favorite restaurant. neil: like a rails deal. >> sort of if you have that demand you can get away with things like that. neil: what i notice, jon, a couple favorite restaurants i like, they are still great, they cut back not only on portions but sometimes even the quality of the food. led's say a pork chop and peppers used to be this thick is now paper thin. just some examples. i still, you know, deal with it, you might be surprised i like to eat. >> you're a steak man. neil: whatever. i'm just wondering what you make of that and whether, it hasn't affected to my going to the places, i like the people, the ambience, what do you think of that, those who cut corners that way? >> the restaurant operator is in a box. if i can sell a 12-dollar hamburger but i can't sell a 18-dollar hamburger because my market won't allow it. i can't charge $18. i have to reduce the size of the

burger. i have a choice, either raise my prices or adjust my product to address the price point i'm at now of the a lot of restaurants cannot elevate that price point. their elasticity goes so far. it's a balance. neil: do they bounce this off customers. depends on how wealthy, cash absorbed customers are, i will gladly pay x-amount more for this if you make it the way you always made it? >> that is correct for a non-price sensitive audience. when a more price sensitive audience comes in the hamburger for $10. they will not get a half a pound hamburger anymore. neil: what is the risk, prices are told to be stablizing but food, you mentioned this interesting statistic, people are still getting a better deal going out than going to the grocery store than getting food themselves? >> grocery stores are up 11%. restaurants are up 8%.

restaurant will still cost you more for the hamburger than raw meet petition from a value standpoint restaurants are offering a good value today. neil: i personal question i always get on the show, when you're hugging someone, grateful, crying, happy, you help them, do any of them say you son of a? >> no, neil. i must tell you our microphones are on the chest so you don't hear what we say. the things they whisper in my ear change my life. jon, you changed my life. you helped me with my wife. i'm talking to my kid again. i have a whole new future. you're the father i never had. those comments, when they say that to me i'm even tougher next week. neil: i get this covering the bond market. tell me how the municipal bond is doing. >> but you get no hug. neil: no hug. jon, you're a marvelous human being. you show it every day. he never forgot his roots.

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come to east palestine to look at the situation, put the focus on it, put the spotlight on it. little concerned he came first thing in the morning. word on the streets, i go every other day to ground zero, he was avoiding any kind of protesters. i was happy he came. i welcome all national leaders to come to east palestine. i wasn't happy about his press secretary. i had a couple of reporters texting me this morning saying his press secretary saying no way they would take any questions. so, neil, there is a little concern with that. neil: he did ultimately take questions but again the big one is, what can or will the transportation department do? as it probably should be, senator, you know far more than i, norfolk southern, it is their derailment, it is their disaster, they're the ones responsible for dealing with it but do you think norfolk has done enough? >> no. so right now just from my estimates if we're not careful

norfolk will try to weigh, walk away from this situation with only a 40 or 50 million-dollar price tag. the real cleanup should be 600 to a billion dollar price tag. so we'll have to hold their feet to the fire. whether we use fema, ohio, epa, national epa, governor shapiro, governor dewine we'll use any resources possible to make sure we get the resources enough to make east palestine and also negly whole, other areas nobody is talking about. we need a lot of money to fix it right, neil. neil: a i had a lot of recognize dents, governor dewine said water was fine. a lot of them are not convinced. a lot harken to 9/11, rescue workers downtown after 9/11 were told the air quality was fine. that was far from the case many

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adam: all buyers are not in sync with this market. we are down across the board we had been up more, taylor, so sorry about the last segment and i want to blame the staff but it was me. i apologize. to you. taylor: i was ready to go with you on munis. a lot, everyone.