dagen: verdict has opinion reached in trial of alex murdaugh on trial for murdering his wife and his son paul. sean: only hours of deliberation. kennedy. are you there? you are up next. kennedy: i police officer i love you in blue. it is big night. we have breaking news. the jury has reached a verdict in the trial of alex murdaugh, they have been deliberating for three hours. what dutd does that mean? you know, what bet story

break it down than a a len -- legendary defense attorney, robert shapiro is huis he, he will be joining me in moments, alex murdaugh on trial for the brutal murder of his own wife and youngest son, they were shot to death on property of family south carolina hunting lodge, less than two years ago, body parts and brains, blown all over the place. if you have been following the trial, listening to testimony it has been gruesome, murdaugh denies doing it. sort of, st testifying last week he would never intentionally hurt his wife and son. does that mean he did it by accident. the jury has come on a very quick decision, after brutal weeks of testimony, the

judge handed them the case, there was drama. one juror removed today for talking about the case to a few other people, that is a big no, no. listen to what happened when the judge tried to bid her farewell. >> have you brought everything that you have outside of -- you left stuff in there, what is in there. >> a dozen eggs. ken. >> a dozen eggs? >> one of the jurors brought in eggs. and my purse and water. >> you will leave the eggs. you want to leave the eggs or take them? take them. so mr. bailiff can you retrieve from the jury room her dozen eggs, her purse, and what else? a bottle of water. >> eggs are very expensive, i'm with her.

that is not close to the craziest part of the whole sasaga. a wife and kid murdered, millions stolen from innocent clients, and drugs consumed and a botched suicide, a dead housekeeper, a young woman killed and a drunken boating accident, it is like a bad 80's soap o opera unfortunately it is very real, with me now former dream team defense attorney for oj simpson, foundinger of legal zoom, robert shabrow. shapiro. >> great to be with you. kennedy: i assumed that this would go on for several days there were so many potential points of contention for the jurors. areas where there could be reasonable doubt.

they might have to go over and parse because of its complexity. as a person, who has been in the very situation that murdaugh's lawyers are, what does it say to you that the jury came back with a verdict after 3 hours? >> i think it is pretty simple. in this case, normally you try not to have a client testify. criminal cases, there is no c compulsion to testify. the the reason you have a client tell is because you believe that prosecution can prove the case. you will try to cop to convince the jury that is not the case. so you put your client on. what happens in my view is reasonable doubt goes out the window. they simply look at mr. murdaugh, they look him

in the eye, they say, is he being truthful or is he not? and that will be the conclusion they came to very quickly as to whether or not they will find him guilty or not guilty. >> what do you think? >> you know, i'm not one to speculate as to what jurors do any more than picking a horse that will win a race. i wasn't there. you weren't there. we didn't see him face-to-face looking in the jury's eyes. the jurors will make a simple -- >> all right robert i have tonig interrupt you to the courtroom. >> let's see. tell you again. starting with the back. one by one.

>> >> docket number 2022 gs15, state of south carolina, in court of general sessions, in term of 2022. july, the state versus richard alexander murdaugh, indictment for murder. code 16-3-0010. code 0116. okay. guilty verdict. signed by fore lady,

3/2/tw23. >> docket, state of south carolina county, in court of general sessions, july term of 2022, the state versus murdaugh, indictment for murder, code 16-3-0010. cdc code 0116. verdict, guilty, signed by fore lady. date 3/2 of 23. >> docket 2022. state of south carolina countingy coltin court of general session, july term 2022, the state versus rich article murdaugh, indictment for possess of a weapon during commission of a v violent crime.

code, dash 0490. cdc code 0549, very guilty, signed by t the foreperson of the jury. dock it number -- state of south carolina, county. court of general sessions, july term 2022. the state versus richard alexander murdaugh, indictment for position of a weapon during the commission of a violent crime, verdict guilty. signed by the foreperson of the jury. 3/2/23. >> >> thank you.

madame fore lady and members of the jury, if that is the verdict of each and every juror please lea let it be known by ra raising your right hands. any individual polling requested. >> madame clerk, you need to individually poll the jury, according to their juror numbers. >> number 193, was that your verdict. >> yes. >> is it still your verdict. >> yes. >> juror 254, is this your verdict. >> yes. >> is it still you're verdict. >> yes. >> jury 326. is this your verdict. >> yes. >> is it still your verdict. >> yes. >> jury 530. >> yes. >> is it your verdict. >> yes. >> juror 544. >> yes.

>> it was. >> yes, is it. >> yes. >> juror 572 was this your verdict. >> yes, is it still your verdict. >> yes. >> juror 578, was this your verdict. >> yes, is it still you're verdict. verdict -- your verdic. >> yes. >> 63 inj junior seau.. >> yes. juror 826. was this your verdict. >> yes, is st still your verdict. >> yes. >> juror 864, was this your verdict. >> yes, is st still your verdict. >> yes. >> you your honor the jury has. >> the jury has been polled, and verdict is unanimous. if you will bring the

alternate juror out and have her have a seat in audience, please. >> you can stand there or sit back there whatever you prefer, okay. are there any post pr trial motions. >> none from the state your honor. >> argue motions for a directed verdict. on grounds those grounds we would make a motion for a mistrial and set aside the verdict. >> by the state, response.

>> your honor, based on our previous arguments we submit that case properly went to the jury, and jury was proper. >> we been here 28 days. first few days of jury selection and remainer receiving testimony a overwhelming amount of testimony and evidence that was presented to the jury for the jury's considering. as i indicated to the jury charge, that was matter for the jury to determine. the court found at end of state's case there was sufficient evidence to find the defendant guilty if evidence was believed by the jury like wise at end of the defense's case.

motion renewed court found that the evidence was sufficient for the jury to find t defendant guilty. the evidence of guilt is overwhelming. i deny the motion. mr. murdaugh, you having been found guilty of two counts of murder involving your wife and your son. two counts of possession of a weapon during the commission of a violent crime, the burden now comes up opupon the court to impose a sentence. given the lateness of the hour, and the victim's

rights that must be taken into consideration and complied with you were the victim's bill of rights, and consider what i would anticipate to be a number of people who might have something to say regarding sentencing, we will defer sentencing to a later date. the minimum sentence for murder is 30 years, the maximum is life in prison ment as to each count. and the weapon charge, the sentences up to 5 years or 5 years which has to be concurrent if a life system posed. -- is imposed.

when would you y'all like to reconvene for sentencing? i would like to given an adequate opportunity to prepare. >> state will be ready at 9:30 in the morning your honor. >> we could do it at 9:30 tomorrow morning also. >> all right, the defendant is remanded to custody of the county sheriff department. kennedy: there you go, alex murdaugh will be taken away now a convicted double murderer a very quick deliberation from the jury who got the case today a few

hours ago, returning a guilty verdict and the man who sobbed throughout the trial, particularly when testifying, now very stoic and unemotional. quite a surprise for someone who let the water working go, put on a show when we felt it was necessary, that no longer serves him, joining me now, who has been covering this case fox news correspondent jonathan with the latest. reporter: you know, i noticed the same thing. murdaugh was stoic his react to the verdict, guilty of all counts, really every time in the courtroom that we saw him become emotional it was when witnesses were either describing the murder scene or describing the bodies of his wife and son and just the horrific gunshot wounds they had

suffered or worse when they showed photos and videos of the crime scene. he was just seeing wiping away the tears and his nose, and weeping who he testifiesed, then other times during other testimony, again, very stoic, sometimes even slightly jovial are -- remembering more light hearted moments of his family living years, with this verdict very stoic and complaint, the -- compliant as high was escorted away in handcuffs to jail until he returns tomorrow morning efficifor his sentencing hearing, as judge mentions he faces minimum of 30-years, for each murder charge. up to a maximum of life

without possibility of parole. it really didn't take the jury long to come up with this verdict, they went into deliberations at 3:50 eastern and around the verdict at 6:41 p.m. this evening, less than 3 hours my producer handed me a note saying that jury de de delib rated. a lengthy trial this was day 28 of alex murdaugh trial but speedy process. kennedy: how did his testimony influence the trial itself and the coverage of trial? there seemed to be a shift. where there were many more questions raised by the defense particularly at the beginning, but when murdaugh did testify, it was a massive shift, tell me about that? >> yes, it seemed it was a

hail mary move that they thought that putting their client on who was a skilled attorney, that he would be able to charm the jury. he was articulate, he is a good looking by, he speaks well, sh he is cool under pressure and kind of sparred with the prosecution, a moment that prosecution was playing a video, where murdaugh told authorities he was not with his wife and son at the dog kennel where the murders took place. and the prosecution stopped the video and they tried to get him in an aha moment and pin him down to admit this of the that moment he lied to authorities because it later came out in a video that his son shot time stamped from the kennels minutes before he and his mother were killed. but, murdaugh would not take the bait. the bait he would say that was moment he lied but high

ahe admitted he did lie to authorities and he was at kennels, he said defense argued his excuse for lying to authorities was that he was paranoid because of the drugs he was taking, he had pills in his pocket, when the state law enforce. divisions, were interviewing him in the suv. and clearly that did not carry wait with the jury. it did not take them long too to find him guilty. guilt. kennedy: jonathan thank you for following that it has been fascinating there is a crescendo people thought would not show itself for a few days, they thought it would be at at least trial watchers thought it would be another day, i have to agree, that testimony was

damning and you -- if he had not testified on his own behalf, maybe it would have taktaken the jury longer, but there were so many holes in his story, such a tragedy tragic outcome they could not long into his eyes thank you john than. kennedy: my pleasure. >> now back to robert shapiro. you know robert can it gather way when a jury deliberates that quickly, can both sides feel confident? >> i don't think anybody ever files confident when a jury comes back no matter whether it is hours or weeks. you never know what will happen. in this case, the judge made the it clear. the evidence was overwhelming he had no choice but to testify,

highest not an appealing person on the witness stand. he had stolen money from his own law firm from employees, he had a addiction problem. he had lied to the police. he was not a compelling witness. >> would you have put him on the stand. >> that is the mains reason -- i don't know him. i have not met him. but it is exceedingly rare that i have a defendant testify in a criminal case. kennedy: did oj want to testify. >> clients always want to testify. and it is up to them. lawyers, have a lot more experience than people who are being charged with a crime. and you know, sitting in that witness chair is the most difficult chair that anyone can sit in.

and lawyers, traditionally make the worst witnesses possible. the jury looked aim him in the eyes, they made a decision. do we believe him or do we not? and it was clear, they did not believe him. they probably spent more time picking a foreman than coming to a verdict. kennedy: when did defense lose the case? >> they lost the case as soon as he swore to tell the truth and did not simple. kennedy: there were aspects of this case a lot of people, even though who thought he was the guilty, figured high he would be acquitted because they could not find blood clothes or a murder weapon. >> well, here is the deal. and what i said at the

beginning, is reasonable doubt is the biggest weapon that defense has. as soon as a client or defendant takes the witness stand reasonable doubt goes out the door, all they do is focus on that person, that is pure and simple. do we or to we not believe him, do we or do we not like him, i think that conclusions were evident in the quick verdict. kennedy: how do you think he will be si sense 10ed. sentence. >> life impri imprisonment without a question. kennedy: will he face changes on the financial crimes. >> i believe yes. if there was an error in

jury instructtions or misconduct they are possible. not likely, but i think that prosecution in this case really wants to prove that everything that they believe that mr. murdaugh did he should be punished for and convicted of, they will run consecutive, judge already said, anything else will run consecutive, i think they will try him gain. and most likely now, since he is already admitted on the witness stand he committed financial crimes, that case is all but over. kennedy: i think what was so damning for him, story about gloria satter field, the house keepe who died, said it was an accident. he took out a insurance

policy, and he sued himself, and he took that of money. and that was the blueprint for how he ended up paying for the settlement for his dead son's wrongful death trial in case of mallory beach, hissed dead wife's estate played for, it seemed he had no problem taking people's lives and committing insurance fraud to cover his a. >> there is just no question about his character. that is obvious by his own testimony. the things he did stealing from clients, stealing from his own law firm and horrible thing you just arctic lated about an employees. he just -- he is not a person that is likable. for that reason alone when he testified, and he lied,

the jury came to a simple conclusion, you lie now, you probably are lying then, and you will lie gain again and we have no question but they have proven their case, you are guilty. kennedy: were there at pecks aspects of this trial similar to o.j. simpson murder. >> there is never been a case or will be there a case similar to the ojo.j. simpson case, that case went on for 9 months. it had every aspect you could deal with in a criminal case. it is clearly the case of the century. this case does not come close. kennedy: all right, the nation was certainly trans fixed by this case. and i think people will be satisfied that there is accountability and justice. that people who have been following it, that is what they have wanted, we wanted your opinion we got it thank

you very much robert shapiro. >> thank you, kennedy. always a pleasure to be with you. >> thank you. >> well, as you might have heard alex murdaugh guilty on all charges, we'll have more on the verdict coming up in moments, stay with us. your best defense against erosion and cavities is strong enamel- nothing beats it. new pronamel active shield actively shields the enamel to defend against erosion and cavities.

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kennedy: breaking news, alex murdaugh guilty on all charges for murder of his wife and son. >> in term of 2022, july, the state versus richard alexander murdaugh, indictment for murder. cdc code 0116.

guilty on verdict. signed by the fore lady, 3/2/23. kennedy: unemotional look at those dead eyes. 6 weeks day after day, and you know t the involved in a defendant taking stand -- his own behalf. one of the best known prosecutors in state of south carolina, expressionless, guilty murderer right there. the tears are gone, joining me now with more on alex murdaugh guilty verdicts, defense attorney, ted williams, you have been following that case. are you surprised by the speed with which jury came to a verdict? and the guilty on verdicts?

>> well i was surprised at the speed they arrived to the verdict. i thought there was a lot of evidence that they would have had to look over. but i can tell you, jurors for the most part get it right, i think they got it right in this case. this man was not only a habitual liar, but he was also as jury how convicted him, a murderer. you know, we think, who would murder their wife and their son? this was cold-blooded and you know, the defense they got up to talk, i think the jury, by that time, individually, had already made their minds up and they were just itching to get into the jury room and to be able to de c deliberate,

that was the rational for coming to a quick verdict, all of the lies that this man told. kennedy: and the jury was saturated with images and with videos and descriptions of the horror at the crime scene. and when the prosecution actually called some rebuttal witnesses after the defense had finished, one of the the jurors seen putting her face in her hands every time one of the gruesome images came up, she was saturated, they had seen enough, at that point you arery trying on read tea leaves. i'll ask you. at what point did you know that he was going to be convicted? >> i knew he would be convicted when he got on the stand and he started saying that he had lied to the sled

agents about the video where him, mage and paul was at the same time, when it came to the conviction itself, i found out this jury moved with all speed to find this man guilty went this amount of time about 3 to 4 hours, i knew, in my past experiences, that was a guilty verdict that is what i thought, i think again, they got it right. this is the good thing about this. there is nothing good about murder. but maggie and paul cried out from the grave, that this man killed them. and i think that again redundantly the jury got it right. kennedy: on rebuttal prosecution closing arguments they said that. john, the attorney who was

leading the rebuttal argument, he said, you know one of best witnesses in this case was paul. and you know that is heartbreaking, he talked about when alex murdaugh went to the crime scene after he called 911, he left his dead wife and his dead son and walked away, that terp attorney said, if that were my son, you could not drag me away, i would be next to him, in disbelief, but number two if he were innocent. he would have no reason to lie about being at the kennels, he -- if he really had gone to see his ailing mother, he would have no idea what time they were killed. >> you are right. remember that being at kennel, evidence shows was around 8:44, he gets to his mother's house, guess what

he does? he tells the caregiver to lie and say h he had been there for about 40 minutes, when he had not been there. you knew when it man was lying, because his lips started to move. and all of his lies have caught up with him. and now he is convicted of killing his son and his wife. kennedy: yes, how any human being can do that, devies reason and emotion and -- anyone who has a family, anyone who has been a child, a parent, you know like, it is impossible to conceive of, and that is why it's so hard to bring motive into this, but even with that, he had the motive. he didn't care about anyone but himself. and his needs, and his money, and his drugs.

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kennedy: back with more on breaking news night, guilty verdict in for alex murdaugh, guilty on all 4 counts. outside of courthouse, charles watson. reporter: good evening a lot of activity here. in front of the courthouse, you can see a lot of lights and members of media. we're expecting a press conference in next few

moments. it is not clear who we're expected to hear from whether attorneys from defense or from the prosecution. last hour, you know things really started to kick up when we got notice that there was a verdict in this case. you get a sense from folks in the community walking past, and conversation that you know they are shocked at speed at which jury was able to come back with the verdict, they were in courtroom for 6 weeks listening to hours and hours are testimony and take a look at more than a thousand pieces of evidence. you know so, you get a sense that jury had their minds made up when they were changed with their instructions this afternoon and went to deliberate and came up with the verdict. a6:fron6:41,

convicting murdaugh on two counts of murder and possessing a weapon during the commission of a crime. he is looks at mandatory 30-years to life in prison. per south carolina law. we have heard from state who says they are expect to seek life sentence in the case tomorrow morning 9:30 we should get a sense of what sentence will be for alex. you talk about this case it has been long and complicated and really hard for the average person to follow, you get a sense that prosecution knew that would be the case walking into this trial, we saw them over the last 6 weeks through the painstaking process was not only touching on the double murders as murdaugh family property. but also, digging into the financial crimes that alex murdaugh has admitted to at his law firm he admitted to stealing millions from

partners, but also millions from clients who trusted him with their cases and with money they received from the cases. we heard prosecution talk about motive, means and opportunity. and a part of motive they explained to jury is fact that alex was in financial trouble. we mentioned the financial crimes, they pointed to fact that he was also facing a wrongful death lawsuit from the family of 19-year-old mallory beech, a young woman killed in a drunken boating accident in 2019 involving alex's son paul. prosecution did not want this exposed, hemented to take attention are away from this wrong actual death lawsuit, he concocted the murders, you know the plan to murder his wife and his son to detract attention from all of this. he saw in this case, or trial, the prosecution

pointed to alex as a person having the opportunity, right to, commit these murders, they pointed to key piece of evidence that snapchat video his son paul recorded moments before the murders down at the dog kennels, we heard witness after witness after witness get up on stand and testify that they heard 3 voices in the video, maggie paul and alex could people who have known alex for years. that is how we got to the point where we saw alex up on the stand admitting he lied to police, and his family, and really anyone he talked to about this case over last 22 months admitting to fact he was down at the dog kennels, the night of the murder and we heard prosecution layout the tight timeline making it nearly impossible for alex to not have been there during the murders. kennedy: that it not work charles thank you. >> great reporting, we're awaiting a press conference.

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kennedy: alex murdaugh guilty, there is no way to riggle out. verdict's came down less than an hour ago, we're awaiting a press conference.

south carolina still setting up microphones. with that number of mics we have people from all over with questions about this case cap capture nation. jonathan serrii is back with more. certainly, interest has grown as trial has progressed. reporter: it has. you know when the defense took that seemed to most as a hail mary pass to put defendant on went stand that is when everyone started to carrying his testimony live, there was not already huge interest in the case, it just skyrocketed after that. we're hearing from representatives of some of the victims his financial victims, including eric bland who respected family of gloria satterfield. the housekeeper who died of

injuries after that was reported as a tumble and fall accident. eric said that alex murdaugh will drink from the same cup of justice as every other citizen and other convicted murderer, his power, prestige and money afforded him no special treatment. a lot of anger at alex murdaugh, he took gloria satter feel's family you were his week he would help them. -- satterfield, would take the family under his wings help them collect the insurance money, they never saw it, he pocketed that money himself. kennedy: and that was the road map. how to pay mallory beech's family in the settlement for her death in the drunken boating accident. maybe that is how alex

thought he would pay for everything, was with his dead wife's riches. now he is paying with his life. because he will sit in a jail cell for the rest of his natural life. that you know these unnatural murders now we have some closure in the case. it will be interesting to see if some of the victims of his financial crimes get to testify and make their case to the judge. before he is sentenced. you know where do we go from here. reporter: tomorrow, will be sentencing hears starts at 9:30, under south carolina law the victim, his victims get to make statements. victim impact statements to influence outcome of his sentence, will be interesting to see which victims testify. and potentially which of his

-- whether it will include financial victims or if be people more directly impacted by the deaths of his wife mage and his son paul. whether that is family members or close family friends. kennedy: yes, i'm sure a lot of people' to hear from his surviving son, buster. you know this is tragic for him as well. jonathan thank you so much for your reporting. great work. and i know you have been following this very closely. we didn't think we would have this tonight, we did, it is thanks in large part to you. >> my pleasure. kennedy: all right, so, why were people so invested in this case? people outside of the low country in south carolina, they had over in heard of alex murdaugh, they had never heard of his family, they didn't know he was a fourth generation legal skyon who controlled levers of power. in terms of the law and law

enforcement. so, someone who is raised with this much privilege and wealth and access to power, it is not really a surprise that someone like that would go to whatever le ledge they deemed necessary to keep themselves comfortable, if people stoot stood in the stood in way of that comfort, he would make sure he would push them aside, unfortunately, there are 5 people who have deceased because of this family, including alex's wife mage and his son paul. we'll see what happens. what his fate is. the show is over for him. the guilded pathse has turn to ice, thank you for watching the show, appreciate your time and interest in the case, you can follow me on twitter and instagram. surscribe to my pod cost.

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