larry: you may not agree with everything he said, but i think donald trump got off to a very good issues-orientedded start at cpac, and here is jackie deangelis. jackie: hi, good evening, larry. great to see you. thank you so much. we've got got a bombshell e-mail, and they reveal that dr0 the study that he then used to

disprove that covid leaked from the wuhan lab are as this friday house oversight will hold a hearing on biden family finance. and anarchy. police arresting 35 people after demonstrators clashed with officers at a future police training facility in atlanta. and florida governor ron desantis in california at a full house as trump says he'll evict biden from the white house. that that's a quote. and we have the video, four u.s. citizens kidnapped in mexico, unidentified gunmen herded them into a vehicle and fled the scene. i'm jackie deangelis in for elizabeth macdonald. "the evening ed kit" starts right now. ♪ ♪ jackie: good evening, everybody. fed chair jerome powell is set for two days of testimony on capitol toll hill beginning tomorrow, his last appearance before congress since last june

when inflation had reached a 40-year high. house select committee on the coronavirus pandemic set to have their first hearing on wednesday just ahead of the bombshell report from that committee revealing evidence that dr. fauci prompted the release of a publication that would, quote, disprove the lab leak theory. here to take this on from the house select committee on china, congressman carlos jimenez. congressman, it's great to be with you this evening, thank you so much for joining us. >> my pleasure. jackie: let's go ahead and start with this latest development on the wuhan lab are leak theory. now the department of energy is saying that that, you know, it's the very likely that, in fact, the coronavirus came from the wuhan lab, and that's dismissing the misinformation that we've been told over the course of the last three years or so. then you've got dr. fauci, evidence that he, essentially, was trying to disprove that theory throughout the last three years of this pandemic. your thoughts on why he would do

that. >> well, my thoughts are, you know, if he had something to do with funding the virus that this came -- that came out of the lab, then i think he would do everything in his power to make sure there's something that said, no, it didn't come out of that lab. look, it came out of wuhan, and there happens to be an internationally-known virology lab there in wuhan. duh, yeah, that's the most likely source, but for all these years, no, that's crazy. it's not crazy. i actually think that's where it came from. moe americans, probably -- most americans, probably, think that's where it came from, and more and more of our agencies are saying that's where it ch do withdraw hoon for gain of function -- wuhan for gain of function research, and there was that fiery exchange between rand paul and dr. fauci because he kept skirting around the definition of gain of function research. but the nih did give money to an

organization that collaborated with that wuhan lab, $600,000, and it was a program that trump pulled in 2020. you know, when he sits up there in front of congress and tries to tweak the definitions and skirt around the issue, he was essentially the mouthpiece on the virus for the last two and a half years, right? americans trusted him. and now we're finding out that a lot of what he was telling us was not true. >> that's correct. and we should have known something was up as soon as he said that masks were not -- were ineffective and hen said, wait, wait, masks are are effective. we should have started to actually look at what he was saying and what the experts were saying a little bit more closely. there were some people that did. look, our governor here used data. he didn't really listen to those experts from washington, but used the data that he was looking at and we were compiling here in florida to determine how he was going to the fight the virus here in florida, and other governors did the same thing. and it turns out that they were

right, following the data and not following so much those experts from washington. jackie: yeah. and this is a bigger issue, right, because when we think about the impact not just on this country, but agross the globe -- across the globe, the economies at least stalled, the lives that were lost, the learning that was lost for our children, the mental health problem, the lockdowns, i could go on and on, congressman. so when you really think about the impact of this and look at it with respect to how china is viewing the world, looking to come the nate and take over as the world's largest superpower, you have to ask yourself why this administration is dancing around and tiptoeing around when it comes to these issues regarding china. >> well, because they've been politicized. instead of following the science which is really what we should be doing now that the science is coming out and saying, hey, these -- this is probably where it came from, these are the steps we need, we should have taken at the time. maybe masks were not effective. hey, maybe the vaccine has some

side effects, and we shouldn't be forcing young people to take the vaccine. you know, the administration -- it's okay to say, hey, we made a mistake, you know? if we were following our experts. we made a mistake. they're not going to do that. unfortunately, government has this knack for never admitting that it's wrong. and, you know, hey, government is just people, and people make mistakes all the time, you know? if so that's the reason why, if they admit they made a mistake, oh, my god, nobody's ever going to trust us again. no, i'll trust you more if you actually admit to your mistakes because, hey, at least they're honest, and they'll own up to it and move on. they won't do that. jackie: right. and it was also okay to say we don't know, we don't have all the answers, and we've got to do more to figure it out and be honest with the american people because this hit everybody by surprise. but i'm also looking at 7.2, that's how much china's increasing its military

spending, 7.2%. i'm watching china and russia and its relations with the united states in the wake of the chinese spy balloon, and i'm asking myself if it's time -- and so many people in the business with community are asking -- if it's time to try to really, you know, in earnest decouple from china because of the threat that it poses. >> no, the time is yesterday. we need to decouple from china. the threat that they pose is the biggest threat in my lifetime to this country and to the world, and i'm talking about the free world. and china has made, it's no secret that by 2049 they want to be the dominant economic power in the world, they want to be the dominant military power in the world, they want to be the dominant ideological power in the world, and their ideology is marxism. and, look, we tried our best to try to change them and change the course of chinese government, chinese communist party. we've only strengthened them, made them more powerful. they're more powerful economically. and so, yeah, the time to decouple is yesterday.

not today, yesterday. and i'm happy and i'm very glad that at least in the committee that i serve on, the china select committee on competition with the chai chinese -- chinese communist party, we have bipart an san support for that. now, it's not going to be easy, it's not going to be the without pain, but we have to take those steps right now. jackie: and while i have you, i want your a take on this "wall street journal" piece reporting on the chinese spy cranes this country potentially posing a threat here, as i mentioned before, in the wake of that chinese spy balloon coming down as well. a lot of people are looking at china and saying because the administration appears weak to president xi, he is taking advantage of this moment, he is seizing this moment. and there could be some trouble coming. >> yeah. and so, look, i've got two bills that deal with the spy cranes, something that actually was brought to my attention when i was the mayor of miami-dade county by my port people. they said, look, software that's installed in these cranes that

they bought from china, because china produces, like, 80% of all the cranes around the world, they knew what was being shipped, where it's being shipped around the world. also some of that spyware could actually get into the port systems, and the chinese could use it in a malicious way. so that's one bill which says all u.s. ports need to eliminate all these foreign -- this foreign software from their crane, and then there's another bill that gives grants to ports that are a acquiring cranes to buy cranes not built by a foreign adversary, that being china, because we need to have a different source. could you imagine if the chinese said to us, hey, we're not going to the supply any spare parts to you anymore? that's very, very dangerous. jackie: it's a serious problem. congressman carlos jimenez, thank you so much. >> god seeing you -- good seeing you too. jackie: president biden considering approval on the $8

billion will project in alaska. while the project has support from state and federal officials in alaska, environmental groups are saying if biden approves this, he would go against his campaign promise to end new oil and gas drilling on federal lands. grady trimble has the latest for us on capitol hill. grady. >> reporter: jackie, biden administration has signaled that the white house could approve the willow project, but a scaled-back version that might not make economic sense for the company behind it. conocophillips says the full project could crypt as many as 2,000 -- can crypt as many as -- could crypt as many as 2,000 construction jobs and 1.5% of the united states total oil production. alaska's lawmakers both here in congress and in the state legislature like the 10u7b8 of that. several of them met with president biden urging him to approve the full project, but environmental groups are fighting back. >> it's the blind faith that they have in their climate religion.

and everything else is secondary. we have the highest standards on production of oil and gas anywhere in the world. why would you not want to do it in america? >> reporter: separately, in a leaked memo about a natural gas project in alaska's cook inlet, a former biden administration official admitted with lower royalties on the project there would be additional government revenues and greater energy security for the state of alaska, but that official went on to recommend higher royalties to factor in climate change to the equation. so that gives you an idea, jackie, of where the biden administration's priorities are as it makes this important willow project decision. back to you. jackie: joining me now with reaction from house financial services, congressman french hill. congressman, it's great to be with you tonight. your reaction to the pending decision here. you know, in my view, i've watched president biden over and over again double down and dig his heels in on energy policy. do you think there is a cannes

that he might approve this project -- a chance that he might approve this project that would add 180,000 barrels a day to production? >> jackie, it's good to be with you. we need an all of the above energy policy. we're going to have a 50 need in more -- 50% need in more energy over the next 25-30 years, and about 50% of that is going to be produced by oil and natural gas. so here's a chance for president biden to get one right after two years of having one bad energy decision after another. so i would certainly encourage him to look out for energy incompanies, american jobs -- independence, american jobs and the need for american energy in the world and approve this location. jackie: there are a lot of critics who are outraged by the policy that the president has implemented when it comes to energy, and american families are suffering paying higher costs not only many in their homes, but also obviously prices are up still from when he was

inaugurated at the pump. having said that, this president prefers to take oil from opec, from venezuela rather than end encourage our companies to invest here at home. the companies have said we don't want to invest if you're going to put us how of business in just a few years, it's not worth it. and at the state of the union he made a joke and said we only need fossil fuels for, you know, another ten years. >> yeah. he's got it wrong for the past two years. we need oil, we we need natural gas, with we need dole, we need -- coal, we need nuclear. we need a policy where we can expand nuclear energy. if you want a carbon-free future, you ought to have nuclear investments not only in the united states, but around the world. and as i say, this is a chance for president biden to pivot away from his bad policies that's discouraging investment in the united states which is raising prices for american consumers and consumers around the world. jackie: let me ask you about jerome powell, because he's going to the testify later this week, and this is a fed chair who calls inflation transitory.

i think we have a sound bite. let's listen. >> we don't expect that upward pressure will produce substantially higher prices or that the effects will be persistent. we expect that they'll be transitory or temporary. increases in prices are likely to have only transitory effects on inflation. >> transitory -- >> transitory. >> transitory -- >> transitory. >> transitory. jackie: so do you expect a mea culpa when he testifies? because there are a lot of americans saying, wow, this wasn't transitory. >> nope, they got their talking points consistent and consistently wrong since the fourth quarter of 2020. we've got persistent and stubborn inflation, and now fed is lowering its balance sheet and raising interest rates to try to fight that inflation. but they're up against an avalanche of government spending which makes their job even harder. so i look forward to chairman

powell's testimony this week. and i hope he levels with the american people that the fed has got to focus on price stability. that's job number one. because inflation is a thief. it takes from our hard working families. right here in arkansas the median family income's about $44,000, and our families last year faced $7,500 more in ordinary expenses for food, energy and housing. jackie: yeah. and the staff that we have now, $986 billion in total credit card debt for all americans, so people are going to continue to have to shop for things that they need, but they're putting it on credit which can be dangerous. congressman french hill, great to see you. thank you. >> great, jackie. good to be with you. jackie: all right. 19 train derailments nationwide since december of 2022. the latest one happening in the same state and same company as the one in east palestine. plus, anarchy. police arresting 35 people after

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of the people who were arrested are already out on the street because these are not bailable offenses. the crazy bail laws that have been implemented is really hurting order and control in our cities. jackie: yeah. there's been a lot of outrage about january 6th, and rightly so, howard. having said that, you see incidents like this, and it almost seems as if there's selective outrage and you wonder why people aren't more upset when they see the kinds of pictures that we're showing the audience here. >> well, people have been desensitized to these types of things because they're happening so often. people look at them and say, well, it's not happening in my neighborhood right now, and those people are not going to be prosecuted. we have these leftist d.a.s who refuse to do what they were elected to do which is to enforce the law and prosecute crimes. it's no surprise to me at all. the only fortunate thing is nobody was killed. jackie: yeah. there was a realtor that lives

there, dus this to say. let's listen. >> living there, you know, coming to work and finding bullet holes in your office somewhere where you sit all day and they're literally right behind my head, it's got to stop. our city is out of control. it's unrecognizabling. i've lived here my whole life, and it's just tyranny over the last five years. st the not uncommon to see homeless people running around the city with axes and machetes, and there's -- it's just a common thing. nobody does anything. you call the police, and, you know, it's very rare that they show up. jackie: pardon me, howard, he's from port ifland, but he's talking about crime across in this country. new york city is one of the cities that people experience it in as well. you know, there's been some outrage about that but not enough, and as you mentioned, the woke d.a.s, you know, the blue statements and also -- states and also the mayors as

well are sort of sitting back. lori lightfoot's the only one that right now has been reprimanded to a certain degree with respect to her election. but your thoughts on how this progresses as we move forward. >> well, lori lightfoot not being reelected was a very good sign. and i hope we'll see that across the country. but we have to get back to what fixed it in the first place, aer isive the policing. constitutional but assertive policing. criminals need to be afraid of police. the public should not be afraid of the police. and what's happened now is criminals are not afraid of police. they can do things with impunity. now, look at these smash and grabs that are going on around the country. they've refused to call anything stolen under $1,000 a crime. that's outrageous. it really makes me angry. when i was police commissioner and the police commissioners that followed me up until de blasio became mayor, new york was the safest large city in

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welcome back up. a second norfolk southern train derailed over the weekend in ohio. this is coming just weeks after the toxic train crash in east

palestine. the company is announcing new safety plans. residents are still on edge fox news is in chicago with moore, garrett. >> jackie, this easily could have been another chemical disaster really it's only by luck it wasn't. this train was about two and half miles long. you can see in this video the aftermath of the 28 cars falling off of the tracks. none of those cars were carrying hazardous materials. but 25 other cars on the train work, which is why an evacuation order was issued near the town of springfield, 50 miles west of columbus and prince could figure out if anything dangerous was spilled. this latest derailment is the fourth time in five months that he norfolk southern train has derailed in ohio. the states representatives are demanding answers. >> what we have seen recently with the risks to community is unacceptable. luckily it seems you may have missed a bullet in this one. >> the railroads continue to enrich at the expense of public safety and public health.

lay off workers and compromise on safety. >> today southern release six-point safety plan in response to derailment and east palestine which focuses on improvements to wheel bearings which the ntsb likely said crab because the crash. there also new indication of smithtown's air may not be completely safe. researchers from texas a&m and carnegie melon said other independent testing late last month did not write any concerning amounts of most chemicals there were occasionally concerning levels of the chemical acolyte which can cause lung damage when it's inhaled over a long period of time. the reachers also said at many point many of those long-term risks are still unknown. more independent testing is needed for folks who live there to feel safe. >> garrett, thank you for that for joining us now from house financial service congressmen warren davidson who is pushing for a hearing on train derailments. congressman, can you tell us what you are looking at said hearing and have you looked over

the six-point plan from the company, does it seem sufficient to you? >> looked, trusted not just the government but institutions and companies right now is at a big lope maybe not an all-time low but certainly at a low point. the immediate actions in the aftermath of the east palestine trade derailment caused a lot of people to have even more concerns. thanks to fox and foxbusiness are being one of the organizations that provided attention to this derailment, and now following up really to a host of derailments. i think the shocking status secretary of transportation buttigieg said there's over 1000 of these a year, a way to be kind of dismissive about the first train derailment in ohio about a month ago, the idea that is acceptable is shocking to a lot of people. now people are paying attention to all of them. this may had not have at hazmat on a still big public safety concern and hearings are needed

to highlight what exactly is the solution? >> it is interesting because people do judge, secretary of transportation is not asking these kinds of questions. he is not mapping out what a path forward looks like. that is angering many of the people living on the ground but across the country as well. as a matter fact these train derailments aren't necessarily isolated incident that happened in ohio pretty do believe we have a map showing some major incidents across the country for this is something that we have to try to think about moving forward. but where is buttigieg? where is he in the cleanup effort and restoring confidence not only in ohio but the system moving forward? >> it highlights what he took the job he was not well-qualified for it. he is not handled the pressure very well. i was encouraged this week he did kinda say oh yes, i did mess up. and acknowledging that is progress. hopefully he really does take it seriously. not just the event in east palestine but the broader problem. think the burden is to be on

companies like norfolk southern. we are seeing complaints all over the country about these companies. and frankly congress was asked to intervene in their labor disputes. the workforce has been highlands on the same concerns about the company's failing to invest in the equipment and the infrastructure, in the work workforce. we look at what is the right approach? i think the hearings will on earth though some of my colleagues have asked me too cosponsor legislation. let's first ready, aim, fire developed the legislation and advanced. i think people are right. i will lastly say we've had a lot of people call our office saying hey are these acts of sabotage? i think our intel community and law enforcement community should be weighing in on that. >> final question comes the company itself, do you think is doing enough on the ground to help people there? there are some major concerns still about the drinking water even though the epa said it is find the air quality, the soil, many things to worry about. quick let's say up front clearly they did not do enough for the train would not have derailed.

part of safety is a mindset. when you said there's an acceptable level of loss people tolerate it. if it's okay two or three planes crash a year people say it's not that bad. apparently spent okay to have 17 train derailments in a year. we have to change that mindset it really is a public safety risk not just for the derailments we've seen very cap little area to blockages on our roads and intersections that disrupt traffic. not just for ordinary back and forth to work but for first responders really is public safety concern. >> congressman warren davidson thank you so much for joining us tonight. we look forward to seeing what comes from future hearings, thank you. >> thank you. >> for u.s. citizens kidnapped in mexico. unidentified gunmen herded them into a vehicle then fled the scene. also, florida governor rhonda sanchez in california at a full house they are saying it's not just retirees that are moving to florida for this as president

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an even bigger burden on taxpayers. this new proposal could cost the state over half a trillion dollars. each descendent of slaves to get a check for three to $60000 up from the original suggested amount of 220,000-hertz with roughly 1.8 million african americans in california state would be looking at $650 billion. now, not all proposals provide just cash some allocate land assault programs and services for task force has until july 1 to submit the final recommendations. this weekend held a public meeting and hundreds were voicing their support. >> there is only one thing, one thing that would stimulate this economy and that one thing is capitol, money, reparations. that will stimulate this economy for the 2.6 million blacks in california. >> 's sentiment echoed by task force members of california secretary of state sharing if california can admit it since in narrative there's a way forward for states and cities across the

nation. task force will be writing recommendations legislation would come from some time. critics argue more handouts could just mean more inflation, jackie. >> kelly o'grady thank you so much. springtime florida governor desantis fleming california governor gavin newsom as he holds a 2024 presidential run. to up speech yesterday of a packed audience in california desantis at the welcome mind of viruses the demise of blue states across the nation, li listen. >> governors very concerned about what we are doing in florida. i figured i had to come by florida has led the nation and net in migration. i think three or four years in a row. california has either been number one or number two and net outmigration. this is a result of the better governance in states like florida. it is a result of poor governance and these left-wing states. let's let's welcome former

senior counsel to president trump kellyanne conway. always wait to see you thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. i want to get your reaction to all the moving pieces on the chessboard, right? before we talk about desantis the big question is president biden went to run again? he has not been very formal about making an announcement at this point. what are your thoughts on how things will start to look pretty soon? >> ironically it's the republican field widening very quickly. ellie chevron desantis and warmer president trump out there connecting with the voters this weekend. who did joe biden in delaware again. and you had calmly harassed in california again. i guess they're working from home every weekend. look, joe biden as the odds on favorite to be the democratic nominee into run again because even though you people et cetera joe manchin whom i respect and some others, openly doubting joe biden's viability and openly discussing his vulnerability. the fact is they vote for the

biden again and again almost one 100% of the time. that is the difficulty when joe biden turns around and says look at my is weak. he is right a fitting includes the life newsom comment kamala harris and people to judge. the republican field is really where the juice is right now and the conversation in the country far president trump is at cpac talk about man forgotten child saying i'm going to finish the job that i did, give me four more years but ron desantis challenging him without saying his name much if at all showing a generational change without saying it the late nikki haley has. i don't how much the woke agenda is going to last in terms of the biggest issue. we are on foxbusiness right now i have to say i believe the candidate that comes forward with the most robust credible accessible and doable economic plan is the winner. >> i think you're right americans are suffering across the board right now inflation was transitory the prices are

still high energy policy is not change. it has been tough. let's look to the right side of the field as you mention their look at the cpac straw paul because actually president trump is leading and that both 62%. 20% to desantis a lot of people do not hook. johnson is he's a businessman 5% nikki trailers travel trailers with 3% your thoughts on these numbers in those very early? >> president trump dominate cpac, he has for years they started calling at t pack even before he was elected. at 20 early findings we had if you look at the tea leaves look at donald trump's early strength. i showed up at cpac i think those 2015. he was probably the most popular speaker there even though he did not win the straw poll. it is just his connection with the people. people talk about the base, 74 million people the number of voters he got in 2020 that is not a base that is a very high number of americans. so many more are suffering economically and otherwise. there will be competition i know president trump he loves

competition, he loves a good fight too. it's healthy to have conversation thought in the speaker's race and by kevin made it. democrats have you nobody, the republican should have unity but unity does not mean that one person runs for president means we suss out the candidates by having very important conversations. and look, president trump next week, governor desantis of the both be in iowa. present trouble talk about education parents right movement this burgeoning across this country and pilates are to talk about it. and i think there are the republicans going to get into the race. >> is in direct the field will continue to expand. part of it as you mentioned there's an exchange of ideas and there is conversation that could ignite the party in some ways. but also, sometimes things get a little sticky. especially when cabot are in the debate stage for example. or there is even an issue of cannibalizing funds from each other in fundraising pretty think about president trump and ron desantis competing and throwing a lot of different events in florida. your thoughts?

but that's okay florida is a big state probably because of 38 million people product 21 million people or so it's a big state. it also -- what i love, jackie, this part of the republican party is growing demographically for the second consecutive election cycle bird we had a record number of women candidates of colored veterans running or combination thereof. some of the first time candace came up short in 2022 and hopefully will run again. good for them for doing that. yet democrats are stuck with the old white liberal straight guy who's been in washington for 52 years. i like their publican party's chances if they behave like republicans. they get back to fiscal sanity and credibility on the economy, skirting the border security nativities, security brought in every day affordability and fairness. click to fiscal sanity would be a miracle. kellyanne connolly good to see you thank you so much. jim jordan calling for special

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>> for americans missing in northern mexico by the fbi said they were assaulted and kidnapped at gunpoint friday. officials say the group had just driven across the border when several unidentified gunmen shot at them then put them in a vehicle and sped off preacher in the mexican president said the americans traveled to mexico to buy medication and were targeted by mistake for joining is now former acting department of homeland security secretary chad

wolf. chad it's always great to see you. >> good to see you. "woe to start their reaction to what's happened on the other side of the board of this type. then of course we'll get to what's happening here in the united states. >> obviously is a tragic situation is going on. it's a reminder of the dangerous territory there south of the border. obviously it's all controlled by the drug cartels from that goal for all the way to the pacific pretty think as americans traveled south of the border into mexico including those that drive the need to be really aware of the dangerous aspect of that. i think it also just underscores that cartels come up mexican cartels should be public enemy number one for the said ministration. not only for this incident but honesty with the dream with the frontal crisis smuggling and trafficking humans and that illegal narcotic across the border every single day killing americans every single day but it's time to get serious with those mexican drug cartels.

>> you are right this is an administration that has allowed those cartels to take control the border. and allow people to come across our agents are not in control anymore they are completely overwhelmed and out run. having said that this is what hakeem jeffries had to say about how president biden and borders r kamala harris have been handling things, listen. quickset actually, based on my visit to the border what i have seen is the steps president biden and the administration of taken over the summer months have certainly reduce the flow of illegal border crossings. >> your reaction to that? because i said the numbers going up. >> is exactly what they want you to believe some of the action is taken pretty got to listen to his words recent actions they take it in the last couple of months for that indication that had no action for the past 24 months the last two years they've taken no action and put it in this crisis. now if i did do a couple of things in the last couple of

weeks to manage the crisis but it is not working, the numbers are not going down that illegal apprehension numbers may be reducing the number of illegal migrants coming into the country through ports of entry up 200% over the last couple of years. they're still coming into the country for the still being released into the country is just this is now counting them differently. until they help the american people not paying attention. >> fiscal up 30%, chad, that is the encounters. >> they certainly are. the number hakeem jeffries is talking about is over the last two months were they will say the numbers are down but they are certainly up when you look at them from a fiscal your perspective. and again when the parole individuals in the country they abuse the parole authority they are moving people through ports of entry, those the same individuals they would otherwise normally catch between ports of entry. they're simply redirecting them to come into the country different way. therefore counting them a different way pay they hope the

american people are paying attention. they hope they believe they are actually trying to make a difference and reduce that demand when in fact it's not getting it reduced its only increasing. >> the american people are paying attention especially is the migrants are not staying the illegal migrants i should say are not staying in the states where they enter. they are being dispersed throughout the country as well and becoming an issue in every state, not just border states. chad will thank you so much good to see you tonight. house judiciary chair jim jordan calling for special counsel house oversight holds a hearing this friday on the biden family finance. that is next on "the evening edit".e fo ♪ r a nunormal with nucala. nucala is a once-monthly add-on treatment for severe eosinophilic asthma that can mean less oral steroids. not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that can cause shingles have occurred. don't stop steroids unless told by your doctor. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection.

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♪. jackie: welcome back. so i hear there is something called emac's hot take. don't tell her we'll do something else, jackie's two cents. remember that? republicans are not backing down on their claim of a double standard inside of the justice department and over hunter biden and their investigation. house judiciary chair jim jordan asked the attorney general merrick garland for information and documents and do you know what he received? nothing. >> why isn't there a special counseling for the hunter biden issue? a number of us had inquired because, you know, these, special counsel is when there is a conflict. jackie: there seems to be accountability issue here. we started the show with house republicans with emails dr. fauci, commissioned, edited

the report he cited to disprove the lab leak theory. recall democrats cited debrung h debunked trump does say. are we so distracted by the fights we're missing the truth, staring us right in the face? it's valid question. there is a lot to think about when it comes to all of these issues, especially the lan leak theory. if you go online, read about it, things dating back to 2020, everybody said it was impossible that the virus came out of a lab and here we are, three years later after we've altered our lives and finding out indeed it did. i'm jackie deangelis in for liz liz. you're liz macdonald. catch me on on "the big money s" 1:00 p.m. eastern time weekdays. that does it for us. thanks for watching. sean, dagen. >> thank you, jackie.