>> intervention. >> it feels that way. this is what you learn, climate change always needs a cosigner, it can't get approved by american people on its own, that is why it was shoe horned in. nobody in an inner-city cares about climate change, when they try to establish they are looking into inner city, they are n not pay attention. no one in the hood is saying that the cr climate sucks. jim: dagen: fighting climate change is racist, keeping people in africa in the dark. sean: douglas, jimmy, thank you, kennedy it is you. kennedy: jimmy was with us at the hockey game. sean: rub is in. kennedy: what are the chancessi. sean: my invitation. kennedy: without sean. sean: right. kennedy: we tried to invite you, but forgot to call you,

love you. will he or not, $1 million legal question to wait to find out whether manhattan d.a. alvin bragg the indict former president donald j trump, we had real criminals in the white house, political stakes could not be higher, big question, does the d.a. have a case, former pres itselfed of paying -- former president accused of paying hush money to porn star stormy daniels. the money reportedly to cover-up an affair he allegedly had with daniels. alvin bragg is gambling his career and potentially 2024 election. he claims nobody is above the law, true, but he is a progressive d.a. who is fame ours letting dangerous felons out of jail and running new york city into

the ground, many republicans including house speaker kevin mccarthy have said this case is purely political. >> not here that we're coming to defend president trump we're coming to defend is equal justice in america, we see before us is a political game playedly a local -- this is not new york city there is a borough da. kennedy: a spokesperson for bragg pushing back saying in a statement: >> excuse me. but here is the inconvenient strul strug for

mr. bragg. when liberal are pissed off. >> doesn't seem like the right way to go, history will not just donald trump based on stormy daniels, it will judge him based on the election, if i were alvin, i would wait for georgia to go first. kennedy: he can't, because he is selfish. there are bigger cases against the f former president. as i mentioned something like that has never happened before. sitting or former u.s. president has never been indicted. what will the fireworks begin? there is one man to ask, that is fox news correspondent nate foye. hello. >> thank you. kennedy: what's happening welcome on the electric spanish ship. >> good to be here, implication of this, to be decided. we know right now grand jury will meet tomorrow, two sources tell fox news they

will have one more person to testify. we don't know who that is, we know it is not michael cohen, tomorrow is earliest that jury could vote to indict former president trump, grand jury did not meet today, most recent went to testify was michael cohen's former lawyer. he said cohen is liar and cannot be trusted, he said d.a.al alvin bragg's prosecutors are cherry picking certain e-mails and neglecting many others. >> how do you assess this case? >> weak, to say the least. i just spent two hours testifying before the grand jury, and i got my point across although it was clear to me that the manhattan d.a.'s office did not want to get to the truth. >> this will be a tough case for d.a. bragg on win, he has to priv p prove

president trump's intent, is upgraded to a felony if the former president did it to conceal another crime, like an improper campaign donation, but if it happened for any other reason, the case would likely fall apart, another that will for bragg is statute of limitations, it happened 7 years ago, he would be relying on a loophole. in anticipation of indictment, the nypd is getting ready, meeting with secret service to establish security plans in the event that the former president is indicted and arraigning here in new york. kennedy: this this talk, oh, what are we doing to do. i don't think there will be protests like chicago, this [music] not maga country, i think that is why they computer indi the

indictment off by a week, my daughter's field trip was canceled because her dumb, dumb teacher said there were trump protests, no there weren 't. >> it doesn't appear that is the case. by all accounts this indictment is expected to come the former president made that announcement saturday, the city right now is waiting for it. the news psyc cycle is waiting for it, we've seen mild protests on both sides but no indication they are expecting any violence or anything that the people are really worried about to this point. kennedy: will where will he be arrested. >> if the grand jury votes tony diet -- to indict him, they call hits lawyers and agree on a date for him to come to new york. likely, possibly it could be virtual. he would come here and be

fingerprinted and a mug shot. cuffs is up for debate. a lot of people don't think that will happen. because of the security risk. secret service will have to work that out with the da office, i think if we were to be indicted. mumug shot and fingerprints. kennedy: well done nate foye. >> thank you. kennedy: is it a politically motivated stunt or are there true cha charges, joining me now matthew whitaker. kennedy: i think someone in your house just fell down. i want to make sure it was not a child. >> i have a beautiful crackling fire right now. kennedy: well said. let's discuss merits of the

case, was there something go on, a need to prove concealment, is it possible that the president did not want to be embarrassed. >> there is a lot of factual legal questions in this case, first question is the falsecasion. was him having and whether he had trump company category the facility to michael cohen as legal expenses when they were th for the treatment with actress stormy daniels, and you have the statute of limitations questions, how do they extend that, really, what is fundamental to the whole case, you have the need for furtherance of, an election finance theory.

you know, the problem with that theory, at best it was a duel purpose expense, both for the campaign arguably but certainly for personal reasons, not you know having the family or the company or you know his wife hear these allegations. and so, you know we, when i was at department of justice, southern district of new york looked at this fact and determined no crime under federal law was committed to charge. fec looks at well and they determined it was not a campaign finance violation, i think this is a massive stretch to jump from the misdemeanor to felony. kennedy: how could this disrupt some of the other legal cases which are looming? >> well, there is a precedence question. if you have trials and multiple jurisdiction, they have to mag manage among themselves who gets

defendant first, if this is a case in new york, and a case in atlanta and a case in washington d.c. all based on fl flimsy evidence and theories, but the real challenge would be who goes first and how do you adminner the cases at the same time. kennedy: who admits they don't have the most serious case. do you talk to the former president still? >> i was with him a week ago monday. flying back and for forth to iowa my mo home state, we spent a little bit of time. had kentucky fried chicken on the flight back it was delicious. >> at walking delicious, the colonel's secret recipe. >> the mac and cheese was good as well. kennedy: so, did you talk about the charges? did he know then that an dim indictment was looming. >> no. kennedy: do you think he was

worried. >> the president seemed in the time i spent with him. the same as he always seems. we did not talk about this case, i don't represent him in any of his legal matters. and you know, so i don't have any inside into the strategies in those cases. you know from what i saw, it is the same donald trump that i served in his cabinet, he will fight all of these charges, and obviously, i hope his lawyers have the same amount of fight in him that he does. kennedy: do you think he will be president again? >> i don't know. that is for the american people. that is what's sad about these legal cases. this is a question not for the courts, and not for prosecutors. none of these case would bar him from serving again. but, up know. the people of iowa and people of new hampshire and south carolina, and all of the jurisdiction will decide

who nominee is for the republican hope to be voting public will determine who is the president of united states in 2024. it may be a rematch it may not, we will have to -- that is what is fun about this. it will play out bev before our have eyes, unprecedented in american history. kennedy: we have been binge watching our democracy for 7 years now. and lord knows how it will end. it just -- we got new seasons, the episodes. >> we all need to participate, that is all i can say, we can't just watch we need too participate. kennedy: thank you for that, i might run for president, thank you for suggesting that. >> kennedy, 2028. kennedy: right. all right, matthew wit whitaker thank you. >> go the to see you. >> coming up dr. fauci, a got a new documentary coming about it the make you vomit in our mask, wait until you see what happens going

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kennedy: welcome back in what might be most delicious clip from the week, video from documentary showing dr. fauci in 2021 walking d door-to-door with dc mayor browser to pitch covid vaccine to historically black neighborhood, but residents tell them both to kick rocks. >> the people in america, are not settled with the information given to us right now. >> i'm not going to be lining untaking a shot on a vaccination for something that was want clear in the first place. then, you all create a shot and miraculous time. it takes years to create that 10 eshaous. 10 -- tenacious. >> you you talk about paying people to get vaccinated,

incentive advising them there something else going on with that. >> you are right. kennedy: i know matt w whitaker wants me to run for president that guy should run for president that is a smart skeptical person who does not believe what he is being spoon fed. dozens of beagles killed, he can't convince normal people to get vaccinated. why did anyone listen to what he had to say what he wasn't giving us full truth? joining me now discuss our party panel. we have former trump advisory board member jason meister and democrat st strategist. kevin walling. and the host of the -- >> it's here. >> host of podcast, olivia

rondeau. i would start with you, going with him at the time, there has to be better out reach to neighborhoods in particular those of color where there is a great deal of skepticism do you think they were surprised by the reaction from some people? >> they probably were, and they assumed that a lot of black people would assume they are saying to true, but fortunately for us, black comcommunity has a high rate of vaccine hesitancy. there are many reasons for that look back at tuskegee experiment, people like dr. fauci knocking on people's doors, they took 400 black men, infected with syphilis and them them for year are, infecting their wives and children, this guy, he looks

young, he play have been born in 1972, his parents had experienced something like that. so it is not surprising that black people have high rates of vaccine h hesitancy, he does his research. kennedy: you really can't blame people for being skeptical about a vaccine, he raised good points, he was like you created this just now, why should we trust this in our bodies, they never had a good answer for that. >> a good point, the whole narrative around operation warp speed, a great thing in developing vaccine left the impression for a lot of americans that thevene voop covid-19 vaccine was developed so quickly. 20 years of research went into developing that vaccine, thank god 80% of americans got at least one

dose, saved approximately 3 million americans from death. and more than 16 million from hos hospitalization. i still got sick with the booster. that is part of the messages problem there were people saying if you get vaccine you will not get sicker they should have sick, you potentially will be sick or get infected but you will stay out of the hospital. kennedy: the president said, this is a disease of the unvaccinated. and that was hot bull malarkey. i got two jabs, then after the second time i got covid, just about as bad as first time, i was like this stuff sucks, they are like get one every 5 weeks, you said you get a ji giant bag of baw balls every 5 weeks, jason. tennis balls. >> what struck me about

the video that americans knew more about the science, better than the man who represents the science, the accumen of every day american that exceeded the combined intelligent of every one of our health experts and dc. how do we not censor every day americans and listen to them on covid we would have been in a better place, but instead we listened to dr. fauci and health experts and ended up where we are now. kennedy: a place with a lot of questions, and we still down have a lot of answers, we'll going on to our fourth year of the pandemic. the one person who might have the keys to this, he has been obfuscating the time, dr. fauci may still deny the covid lab leak theory, but. we're kind of one step closer to the truth, i appreciate. president biden ordering

release of all intelligence related to the covid outbreak. and the wuhan lab, about frigin' time. >> will we learn the truth? or at least the remnants of the truth where c covid originated or will washington bureaucracy find a way again to insulate itself and sweep it under the rug. >> you know, i'm leaning in direction of find a way to scene turn the rug, i will remain hopeful, this is a good move, it may be too little to late. people have been calling on him do this for a long time, how did overwhelming narrative in america about wuhan virus, highway did how did that became about racism, why is is less to say it c came from

chinese people eating diseased bats, in a w wet market, how is that less racist than saying it was from a lab. kennedy: the thing that worried my was, fauci might have been relieved that so much of the evidence was destroyed in china. because it would lead right back to him. so much of what has told us has been wrong, but we have known two years ago, kevin, i'm not mad at you, mommy's not mad at you. >> i'm not mad either, we have to get to bottom of this i am happy president has done this i can't remember last time that congress of the united 100% in favor of a piece of legislation. kennedy: you are right, he had no choice but to sign it, they would override the veto they want it declassified. >> and he said far along we

need to do this, he came to office he directed different intelligence agencies like we mention mentioned last time i was with you, he directed the independent investigative investigate agency to come to a conclusion, we need to get the goods. hopefully we'll see it in next 9 days, this is something that president has been pushing for, for a long time. kennedy: i love that white house their messages seems to be deny, deny, deny, blame, blame, blame. thin, magically admit that everyone who was skeptical of the right all along. >> right. and this is -- we have to get to the bottom of this i think this is a step in the right directed, united states government and dr. fauci taught chinese military scientists how to build weapons of mass

destruction. they funded research that created a highly con contagious and deadly bioweapon, they pushed natural covid origins theory then censored lab leak theory, my hope by releases these documents about covid, we can fina fine get to the bottom and hold those responsible for this deadly global pandemic. kennedy: a lot of people think, when we talk about this, and we express frustration, over the way that dr. fauci has come port the himself. -- comported himself with so much power and influence over so many years, it is about punishing him. is really not. for me, and i would be curious to see if you agree, i don't want this to happen again. not only do i want to' another pandemic unleashed

on the world that kills millions, i don't want the government to make such a ppower grab it ruins our lives and our cha children let's lives. >> absolutely, i could we can hit two birds, i think we should p pope punish them a little bit, but agree there has to be some type of checks and balances to where this n never happens, he is not a politician or the president here, should have had no control over our lives but he had so much. kennedy: so much control. there was so much trust placed in one man and i kept asking this the whole time, from early days, when you go to a doctor, you don't like what you hear, a get a second opinion, why were we nenever allowed as a country to get a second opinion?

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pinsky. >> more psychedelic every time i come in here, congratulation. kennedy: i am worried you will have a seizure. this is my problem, if this is not true, if a aces did not say this, there are people who hear this say, surgery is racist? i don't want racist surgery, i have to have something removed, hell no. yeah that is what will happen. >> this all makes me sad. physicians want to do well by their patients, to be good citizens we're getting tangled up in language, there is research that shows racially sensitive specific care particularly in cognitive s uciences outcomes are better or good helps patient feel trusted and heard but with surgery, once you are

asleep, how about you take that logic to male-mfemale, what if i said i didn't want a female anesthesiologist. when it comes to procedural medicine it is about the skill. about the knowledge base. kennedy: that is where meritocracies to be, i believe you, when my grandmother was alive she found a romanian doctor, he was more honest about spiking he herself with insulin to have a piece of pie, you trust someone if that you don't feel they are against you. i wouldn't say it is because caregivers are racist that is the problem with that language. kennedy: language. >> we're getting screwed with language with racial

racist or white or euro centric supremacy, i love we need to be super sensitive, but let's not get tangled in the language. kennedy: and right now, we're at a dangerous cross roads. in academia, that is bleeding to all aspects of society the idea of equity is blinding, my worry it will do more harm than good if you label everyone racist racism will be meaningless. >> and in medicine, i call foul on equity generally, how do i get the same outcome from a 17-year-old male and a 85-year-old female. that does not fit biological systems they should have equity of access, in their caretakers, but outcome, biological systems are too complex to say, we have to

all end up in the same place. kennedy: we're human being and we're filled with variables and choices we make alter them as we age, we have to acknowledge that. >> and free to do it. kennedy: that is it. >> the dr. fauci thing, i thought, of course, need to have the opportunity to make decisions for themselves, never been otherwise in medicine, make the decision you with your doctor based on your understands and needs. kennedy: why were people surprised that members of black community were skeptical of medicine and a government program? >> remember the vaccine pass, discriminated those people. in no one took responsibility for that, i saw that immediately, it was disgusting. you were actually creating a discriminatory tiered system. kennedy: 60% of people could not eat in restaurants.

>> they were not willing to acknowledge who the v vaccinevene -- resistant were, they were white woman from santa monica. >> n it is wrong. >> we do -- i think we don't -- look, i would ask everyone. i ask everyone to do. we have to get -- stop and ask everyone what they are talking about. get the language specific, people luce l using language as cuddle -- everyone wants to be a good since. kennedy: assumes that people have bad intentions. >> that part is the horror

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and seeing red, thousands of teachers in los angeles unified school district today kicking off three day strike in a fight for increased pay. this old song and dance now the union says its members make poverty wages in one of the most expensive cities, but who is gets clued? half million kids in the classroom in over a thousand schools, the students in a district t that is falling behind in english and paths, is it pay or power, joining us the party panel. jason, they claim poverty. all the school districts, got 200 billion from the federal government. they didn't build ventilation, they spent about 7% of it as of last year, why not pony up from scratch from that bucket of gold. >> look, i guess it's to the go covid but 30% pay raise.

we have to abolishes government sector unions, they are corrupt by design. having said that, i think there is something silver lining here. the 500 thousand children will not be forced to taught to hate their country, their parents and gender and skin color, perhaps they will get a break from this and learn reading and writing. i think there is some si sill lining. kennedy: it dr does break my heart, these kids left to their own devices, i think about single moms who have no choice, they can't take time off work and hire baby sitters, what do they do? did that go into correction when they crafted their pension plans and milking money from local governments, did they consider that when they sisign the contracts and

no, going on strike is the ways thing to do to kids, they don't care about children, i know you do, you love the children. >> i care about the kids. it breaks my heart, this so strike should be last revolter for any union. -- resort for any union, these are you know bus drivers, they are cafeteria workers, as you said, they are making a poverty wage. many of these full time employees making $25 thousand a year. >> most of part time. >> a good number of them in report that i have seen full time, making just about that. this is not money they can live on and support their families, this is a last resort for these bus drivers, and cafeteria workers. kennedy: why are the teachers striking? >> they want to support the kids. kennedy: that they love the the kids they would do it without striking. >> you have to direct our

fire the superintendent makes -- why does superintendent of l.a. make half a million, let's direct to our point a lot of resources federal government can do. they can reallocate ex some of the funds so bus drivers are not making poverty races in a city like l.a. kennedy: let's talk about -- >> kennedy are hurt. >> because of the unions. they would rather pledge that in future money they don't have than pay people in present, makes them or awful. >> the problem is the government, it is government run schools, i feel for these teachers, they are paid 25 thousand a year. i know that is a real problem under paying teachers, but county spends more money per student than most in country, they have abysmal rates, where is the money going? not to the teachers or

cafeteria workers, if they were good enough teachers, i would say go to a private school. instead of striking, to argue for more taxpayer dollars. i think they should strike to abolish government schools. >> and plenty of parents who now with their laptops open, going schools in nevada, schools in arizona, schools in texas fu, lausd. it is heartbreaking and emb embarrassing, they better make it right in the next day. all right, party panel thank you. >> >> in agreement on that. >> i know kevin you are a good person, you are all great, jase. >> coming up. computers smarter than humans? are they take everything on the world? it could happen sooner than you think. you are saying brin brink on

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could happen by 2045, what happens after that is anyone's guess, with rapid explossic of apps artificial intelligence debate is raging. but what happens when the machines are smarter than we are, they already are, joining me now to discuss director of walter bradley center, he is naturally intelligent dr. robert marks welcome to the show, sir. >> thank you, i am naturally intelligence, thank you. kennedy: yeah. look at that beard that is great. i am a big fan of facial hair. >> thank you. kennedy: i'm not as worried about a.i., i talked with a lot of experts like yourself with very good answers about machines programmable by humans, and am i only one that is kind of excited? >> i certainly hope not,

sing -- the idea of singulairty is based on a bunch of words that are seductive semantics. there have been three waves of artificial intelligence, i have lived through two of them. the hype every time is something which repeats itself, day reveals em. >> computer today to reproduce itself, this was a upi store published in "new york times" on july 8, 1958. it was a bunch of hype. it used something which we see today that is delayed scrutscrutiny. it will happen in you said 2045, when we get there people will look back and we'll be a dim light in the

rearview mirror, no one will understand and care what was forecasted. kennedy: i think -- >> i would point out there is -- that enter gpt three and chatbots are remarkable and everyone should play around with them, they are fun. i remember. deep fakes that came around to disrupt politics, right? everyone was to use deep fakes to put out nefarious ads about their opponents, and self-driving cars there was a big scare about that. it would derail all truck drivers. i am old enough to remember y2k scare, everyone thought when 2000 came around all computers in world would crash. kennedy: that is how we got great movie office space.

>> that is a great movie. kennedy: i do think that there are so many incredible possibilities, everyone say its will mess with our evolution and no such thing as individuals. i tend to agree with that you so much is hype. they can't define consciousness, i think that is may be something that uniquely human. and it is special. and we got that going for us. >> right. and with that let me hype my book, noncomputable you, this is address is why we're more than computing made out of meat, people that believe that a.i. will take over believe we're computing made out of meat, and they should be able to use silicon to duplicate what he can do. >> there is plenty of silicone here and here.

dr. marks are you wor wonderful thank you so much. >> thank you. kennedy: before we go, the tickle me tuesday joke, guess punch line on twitter, hash tag tickle me tuesday, why are peppers the best atwe archery? d i'm so glad we did this. i'm so glad we did this. i'm so... ...glad we did this. [kid plays drums] life is for living. let's partner for all of it. i'm so glad we did this. edward jones

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