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century lithium is advancing their clayton valley project towards production, with the goal of becoming a domestic lithium producer for the growing electric vehicle market. nevada's lithium is the key to america's green future. century lithium >> for democrats, this is a mell of a hess. 81% of them say joe biden's doing a great job. how can very but of them, only 52 percent, even want him to run again? this is pretty remarkable. >> earnings speak, and i do not know which panes are going to blow up. -- companies are going to to blow up. i'm going to wait for earnings to come out. >> the tech sector to, ironically, has been the best sector so far the year. i'd diversify around tech, i
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think they're in a longer term recession even with the cutting right now given stocks aren't cheap. >> i like this as the start of a new bull market. there's a lot of good reasons why i think it can continue. the fed is looking like we're getting to the end of rate increases. we have a ton of cash on the sidelines. ♪ ♪ put me in, coach, i'm ready to play today ♪ stuart: what was that line, put me in, coach? lauren: yes, put me in the game. i want to -- stuart: oh, put me in coach. i thought it was referring to the airlines, put me in the back of the -- lauren: put me in first. stuart: okay. [laughter] it's 11:00 eastern time. stop laughing at me. it is thursday, march 30th and, yes, it is baseball's opening day. all 30 teams play are today, first time that's to hopped on -- happened on opening day since 1968. we've got some green on the markets, not as green as it was,
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but we'll take it. dow's up 80, nasdaq's uped concern 90. kind of a mixed picture with big tech, all of them on the upside except for alphabet. look at 10-year treasury yield, please. it keeps on going up. down a fraction at moment, but you're looking at well over 3.5%, 3.56, to be precise. all right, that's the markets. now this, please. last summer president biden talked money, energy and politics with the powerful democrat senator joe manchin. manchin thought he had a deal. he thought they'd agreed to get the debt down and shore up energy security. well, manchin was cheated, and he says so mt. editorial pages of the "wall street journal" today. he says biden is determined to pursue an ideological agenda; that is, spend big on green energy, don't support fossil fuels, and the hell with the debt. anything is worth saving the planet, isn't it?
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manchin was -- has exposed a kiss honest democrat party -- dishonest, willing to say one thing to neutralize manchin, then do the opposite to satisfy the left which actually runs the biden administration. so now we have a green policy that's going to cost $1.2 trillion according to goldman sachs. that is three times biden's summit. the administration keeps on expanding subsidies and credits. this is bureaucrats expanding spending, not congress. issued today from the white house, new incentives for affordable electric vehicles. incentives? [laughter] that's biden speak for subsidies, corporate welfare for amazon and fedex. they'll get delivery trucks subsidized. more money for residential, commercial and municipal charging stations, special facilities for low income and disadvantaged communities. senator manchin was, indeed, cheated by a kiss honest administration that still cares more about play are candidating the left than it does about our energy security and our nation's
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football future. the financial future. third hour of "varney" starts right now. ♪ ♪ stuart: mollie hemingway is with us this morning. is biden totally beholden to the greens? >> well, you know, i respect what senator manchin has said in this editorial at "the wall street journal," but i'm a little surprised that he is surprised at how this is going. president biden has been pretty clear about his views on energy, his focus on climate change and willing to do all sorts of things to seicheuate that wing of the democrat party. so i think that someone with the experience of manchin should have made sure that there were better protections to except what he claims he thought the he was going to get. stuart: but he was cheated, i mean, whether he knew he was going to be the cheated or not,
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he was cheated. >> absolutely. absolutely true. and that's, you know, very bad for manchin, that he fell for that given what the final result is. stuart: but bad for biden now, because going forward i i presume that manchin's not going to vote for whatever biden wants in the senate financially. >> i will say in manchin's dedefense, he kid hold the line for -- did hold the line for quite a few bad bills throughout the two years that the democrats had complete control of the senate, the house and the white house. he and kyrsten sinema did, you know, really difficult work under a great deal of pressure. but at the end of the day, you know, this is how washington works. stuart: oh, dear. all right. i'll move on. janet yellen was asked about the irs agents who showed up at house of twitter files journalist matt taibbi. watch the, please. roll ill. >> during the few hours that that he's appearing before congress, an ira agent a-- irs agent appears at his home and
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lees him a note. are you aware of this? >> no, i'm not. >> i've told you about it. i need to ask you as the direct oversight of the irs, does that bother you in. >>st the certainly something that i would want to look into. i'm not aware of it. irs agents do that, except as you said, in cases where there's an 234gs -- >> that's exactly right. >> -- for more -- [inaudible] stuart: well, not aware, mollie? the reminds me of mayorkas when he says he doesn't know about the cartel wristbands. when does spin become a liesome. >> right. and janet yell yellen pretends that she's uninformed, but she kind of did a decan fam story action against matt taibbi. he's been exposing collusion with big tech companies to suppress americans' free speech and free rights. it's a very bizarre visit from
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an irs agent, and they were just wanting to let him know, they were just trying to help him out about something. they didn't send a letter, they sent an agent. the type of intimidation looked at as a violation of the law and dealing with witnesses, and it's the something that we should all be deeply concerned about. if janet yellen doesn't know because she's not managing things well, that's not good. if she did know and she's pretending nod -- not to, that's not good either. stuart: it reminds me correctly of lois lerner. -- directly. >> and there are a couple of things there too. the irs has a history of going after political opponents of the left using the bureaucratic tools at their disposal. in the irs situation, people thought maybe president obama ma personally directed lois lerner. that's not necessary because our bure rock to says are so filled with people on the left, they don't need personal direction. and that could be the case here
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with matt taibbi as well, but i cohope that oversears in congress will call -- overseers will call on these agents and make them explain what they were doing and anyone else involved. stuart: knowing jim jordan, i think he'll press hard. mollie hemingway, thank you very much for being here. back to the markets, a little bit of green right there, left-hand side of the screen. the cow's up 80 -- dow's up 80, the nasdaq's up over 100 points. adam johnson with me this thursday morning. is this start of a new bull market? >> stuart, i think it actually started last october. stuart: i've heard that from two other people on the show this morning. >>st the stealth bull market. people don't realize, or maybe they do, facebook was down to $80, it's now over 200. you look at nvidia, that got down to almost 100, it's now almost 300. so actually people are putting money into work in all those
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beaten-down tech names, and we could continue, right? salesforce.com, good news for people who have missed that initial move. google is still down, amazon is still down. stuart: do you think it's going to keep on chugging alongsome. >> oh, i thinks the, and i'll tell you why, because the fed is about to get off our back. no more rate hikes, number one -- stuart: you're convinced of that? >> if there's another, it's one. yes, i honestly do believe that, and i'll tell you why. specific -- well, two reasons. specifically because inflation is coming down. ppi was over 11,st it's now 4.5. -- it's now 4.5. cpi was 9.5, it's now 6. still too high, but when you've raised rates at the fastest rate and the most number of times and by the greatest amount since the 1980s, you have to let those previous rate hikes start to take effect. there's a lag, and that's what mr. powell has told us. we've raised rates a lot, and now we're going to see how it plays out. stuart: you buying the banks,
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the big banks? >> yes. stuart: i can't remember how many billion it was -- lauren: 120. stuart: $120 billion flowed into the posits of the top -- deposits of the top 25backs. that's huge. >> yes. and it does make sense in the context of what happened a couple weeks ago where there were banks shut down because there was a run on banks, people wanted their money out. if you take your money out, you've got to put it somewhere. one of the places is bank of america. so i've been buying that. bank of america got as low as about 8 times earnings and about .8 times book a. that's about half of where it typically trades. it also yields about 3%. remember warren buffett back many 2011 when things are really bad, he bought bank america. if it's good enough for buffett,ing it's good enough for me. i i always like charles schwab, it's down about 40%, under pressure. there's not going to be a run on charles schwab. it's the largest brokerage firm in the country. people are concerned, and morgan stanley had a note saying, well,
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people concern investors -- are moving their money from the cash accounts into, say, 2-year treasuries because they yield more, and that will help schwab's earnings. okay, it may hurt them slightly but not a lot. schwab will still make $4 which means it's trading at about 11 times earn, that's half of where it trades. stuart: full disclose off, they handle my investment accounts. >> well done. stuart: lauren's back with us looking at the movers, and we're going to start with disney -- lauren: up 4% this week, investors are buying into the restructuring of mr. bob iger. the 300 job cuts in china and then the marvel entertainment chairman, isaac perlmutter, is out. they got rid of the metaverse, investors are buying. stuart: it's a long time since we talked about under armour, what have you got? lauren: a big partnership with steph curry. he's president of ua's curry brand across all sports.
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we don't know the dollar figure, but last deal was $215 -- stuart: steph curry gets $250 million? lauren: yeah, he gets it. he sells products. stuart: exactly. lauren: great player. stuart: bed bath and beyond -- lauren: down. 68 cents. record low. they're warning that same-store sales for the quarter could call 40-50%. hay reached a deal, they say, with an investment bank to sell hundreds of millions of shares to raise equity. stuart: okay. let's see how that works out out. 68 cents and that that's all they've got. thank you, lauren. have you ever googled your symptoms when you're feeling sick? roll tape. >> i typed your symptoms into the thing up here, and it says you could have network connectivity problems. stuart okay. [laughter] doctors hate self--- i'm not sure what that sound bite was
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all about. connectivity problems? i'm talking about -- >> a network connectivity program. stuart: i do know doctors don't like self-diagnosis, and we've got a doctor to talk about it. the billionaire who owns the atlanta falcons thinks dei should be the highest priority for our nation. he's also a major democrat donor. new fox polls show trouble for the president, more than half disapprove of his overall performance. what does that mean for the biden-harris ticket in '4? bill hemmer is next. ♪ ♪ i see a brand new horizon. ♪ i see trouble on the way ♪ the new chase ink business premier card is made for people like sam who make...? ...everyday products... ...designed smarter. like a smart coffee grinder -
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stuart: a new fox poll shows 56 of voters do not approve of president biden's job performance. now look at this one, the president tweeted glowing praise of vice president harris after a report said biden was irked that harris was not, quote, rising to the occasion. well, look who's here. privileged to be in this seat, bill hemmer sitting right next to me in new york city. all right, bill, what does this tell you about the biden-harris team connest thing 2024? -- contesting? disapproval way up, trying to put some support behind harris. >> we'll see what happens on the republican side, it's always very interesting, stuart. but if you go deep into the numbers, you can see where he's got problems. some of them at home, some of them are overseas. his highest disapproval rating, foreign policy, 54 president. that's china, that's russia,
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that's ukraine. border security, 60%. that's immigration. i would argue that the republicans who took the house have drawn attention to immigration since the midterm election in a way that really a lot of other media outlets weren't covering it. the white house concern. stuart: you wouldn't know what was going on if you didn't see fox. >> likely. yeah, we had a reporter on the border every day for two years. and the economy is the highest disapproval number. so this is your bucket now, and i've got to think that's inflation and that's a little bit of unsecurity about job climate now. stuart: he's on shaky ground though running again in 2024 with the same vice presidential candidate. that's kind of shaky, isn't it? >> he might be. let's see what the other side looks like a. a lot of republicans thought they were a shaky team in 2020 the -- stuart: bill, do you think the democrats will allow this team to go forward to the 2024 rating when the disapproval rating of biden is huge and the lack of credibility in the vice president? >> i think if donald trump is
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the nominee for the republican party, joe biden believes he is the only democrat in america who can beat him. and that's why he'll run. stuart: that's fascinating insight. well done, young man. i've got one more for you. the trump grand jury -- this is new york city. seems like they are just delaying and delaying and delaying. are they walking away from bragg's indictment? >> they might. it's tough to read the tea leafs on this -- leaves on this. i think a lot of the analysis when you look at the special prosecutor in wilmington, delaware, what's happening in atlanta, georgia. still happening, i should say. then the southern district in new york, most legal analysts thought that the skny here in town would move the fastest, and we were getting some information out of them, but they put a cold stop on it this week. maybe -- the they say they'll be back next month. is that 2 weeks or is that 30 days or is that forever? remember, what the d.a. was trying to do here in new york so
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take a misdemeanor and elevate it to a felon incentive. and people like andy mccarthy will argue that you can't get away with that or be successful at it. stuart: right. and since they did that, since they suggested this indictment, trump's popularity has gone up. >> we saw that in our fox polling yesterday. you know, for month to month he was up 11 is points when you compare him head to head with desantis, and desan advertise was down about 4 points. there was a change. stuart: politics is fascinating. i bet you can't wait for that election where you can -- >> i used to be a sports reporter many moons ago -- stuart: you did? >> and politics is about as close as you get to -- stuart: what was the sport? >> i was a reporter, so i covered it -- my if sport was football, by far and away. stuart: soccer? >> not. stuart: what's wrong with you? [laughter] >> there's nothing wrong with me. i enjoy watching it, just didn't grow up with it. stuart: you're all right, bill. >> thank you, stuart.
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1-nil, you. stuart: to me? i don't think so. this is not a contest, lad. see bill on "america's newsroom" week cases only on fox if news. thank you, bill. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: senator john dependent orman coming back to the work on capitol hill. ashley, when is he coming -- >> reporter: yep. reportly planning to return the week of april 17th. the pennsylvania democrat has been receiving treatment for depression since mid pen at the walter reed military medical center, also suffer ised a stroke last may during pennsylvania's senate primary. it does remain uncertain exactly when fetterman will leave the hospital, but a person close to him confirms he will be back to his senate business after coming 2-week april recess. his return will be welcome news for senate democrats who have a slim majority and have struggledded to deal with absences over the last month. stu. stuart: ashley, thank you very much, indeed. we should check out the markets,
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we're coming up on close to the 2-hour mark of trading today. we still see green. not as rose rosy as it was earlier, but the nas darks nice gain, up 103 points as we speak. big tech, some gains there too. look at apple, powering up to 162. amazon's over $100, 102. meta, well, the gain there this year is about, what, 75% oven meta? something like that. alpha bent's down a fraction, microsoft up $3. love it. come back in again, ash, please. what's this about a judge who asked chatgpt to decide bail in a murder trial? surely that wasn't in mentioner was it? >> reporter: no. bizarre story. it happened in india where a judge was uncertain on whether a defendant charged with murder or and assault should be granted bail, so the judge decided to seek counsel from gpt4, that's the latest update. the quote exhibits human-level performance on various
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professional and academic benchmarks. so what kid the a.i. judge -- did the a.i. judge decide when he was asked what the jurisprudence on bail when the assailant assaulted with cruelty? ah, well, the program responded if the assailants have been charged with a violent crime that involves cruelty, they may be considered a danger to the community and a flight risk. ultimately, the real judge agreed, rejected the defendant's bail bid on the grounds of, in fact, he did act cruelly before the victim divided. it marks a first for the indian justice system which is backlogged with nearly 6 million pending cases. analysts say remarkably chatgpt could soon become a fixture in court systems across the world. fascinating. stuart: can't wait. [laughter] thanks, ash. listen to this one. michigan state university thinks term rule of thumb is harmful language. it's all laid out in their
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inclusive language guide which also discourages words like bonkers and america. we're trying to make sense of it. the world health organization says healthy kids don't need a covid vaccine overall. big change from three years ago when teachers refused to go back to the classroom because the kids were not advantage is city may noted. dr. bob la here a that is next. ♪ ♪ one more shot. ♪ and i remember kind of thinking like, "oh my gosh, i think we could be sisters." because i think we looked... yes. right. yeah. and i don't think at that time- i think you're the one to tell me that we had the same birthday. yes. it's really unbelievable when you think about it, because it's been, like, really over 20 years that you were my mother and father's banker,
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stuart: time now for this day in the history, "american built." march 30th, 1858, philadelphia inventer highupman litman -- hawaiiman litman patented the firsting pencil with an attached eraser and sold is it four years later for an astonishing $100,000 and that was in 1858. now you know. don't forget to watch "american built," mondays, 9 p.m. eastern only on fox business prime. on the markets i still see green, but not as much as an hour ago. we're up 80 on dow, 89 on the nasdaq, 21 on the s&p. still some green. laugh. [laughter] listen to this.
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many people in britain are eating good which has already passed its sell by date. ashley, how many people are doing this and why? ashley: well, based on the latest population numbers, it's 21%. that means more than 13 million buritz are ignoring expiration if dates -- brits are ignoring expri ration dates as food prices are rising in -- at their fastest race in 40 years. half of adults in great britain are buying less food when shopping. a recent survey also revealed around one in four adults experience short isages of essential food items in just the past two weeks. and also around one in four were buying more tin food, one in five were eating good, yes, past its use-by date, and 16% of the adults in the u.k. are now classed as food insecure. these are very desperate, horrible number, suh. stuart: they are, indeed. thanks, ashley. the world health organization
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now says that the healthy young people no longer need to get the covid jab. dr. bob lahita is with me this morning. isn't that a complete reversal, doctor? >>s the, it's, stuart. but it makes a lot of sense. and what they've the said is that the vaccine should be given to those at the greatest risk. so kids who are 6 months to 17 years of age are certainly not at the greatest risk. in fact, they probably never have been at the greatest risk even through the pandemic. but at the greatest risk means those who have immunocompromised systems, those who have over genetic abnormal is, those who are overlying diseases such as severe type i diabetes, etc. those are at great risk, and they should be the ones the w.h.o. is saying should be vaccinated. stuart: fair enough. no problem, kent it's very different from three years ago. anyway, a new poll, here's
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another one, 72 percent of doctors believe misinformation has made it harder for them to treat patients with covid. are we talking about misinformation when they're dialing symptoms into the computer and they get misinformation out? is that what we're talking about here? >> well, there's that, plus there's also free-wheeling misinformation. as we get online, you see these ads for diabetes cures and all sorts of things. so right now my patients go on google or they go on facebook, and they find out that the vaccine causes x, y and z abnormalities. some say their migraine headaches are a result of the covid vaccine. some say that their memory loss or their inability to use their legs or skin rashes that develop on their arms and on their torso. and generally it's post-vaccination. so they read this stuff and say, no, i'm not going to be vaccinated, it's very dangerous. now, if you get covid and it's
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in a bad form and you happen to be of the right yes innocentics and have overlying conditions, then you're going to be very, very sick and perhaps if wind up in the intensive care unit. we have been saying for the past three and a half years if you get vaccinated, you're not going to wind up in the hospital mt. icu, intubated, on a respirator unless you have immunogenetics that predispose your whole family to that or some underlying disease the that was never known. yes, that's right, 70% of the trust of physicians have declined. 90% of doctors feel that the vaccines are safe and that patients are getting fed misinformation through social media. stuart: isn't it a broader problem though? i think doctors really don't like self-diagnosis, you know? you go on the internet, you punch the symptoms into google or bing or whatever and they come back with a diagnosis. they take it to the doctor and say i've got this.
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you don't like that, do you? >> no. that's not the way to operate. we operate on medical journal information, data analysis. these are the kinds of things that physicians really, really go by. the worst thing is if a patient is prescribed a medicine, they go back to google, and i refer to tint as dr. google. and they tell me they've been to the computer, heavy looked at the side effects and no way in heck are they going to the take that medicine. stuart: yep. some people, some patients would just insist google tells me that and i got this. treat me. i'm sure that happens, count it? >> -- doesn't it? >> absolutely correct. they go and they find out information, well, we look at the time early on you remember hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin were being used to treat early covid with no data the, no substantiation. people were taking it, and patients who really needed the drug couldn't get it. the pharmacies were sold out. and that was a problem, and
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that's what happens when there's this sort of mass misinformation that occurs around the country. >> must be tough being a doctor these days. you have got misinformation on the computer, you've always got a lawyer looking in to see if they can take some money out of you. i've been there. doctor, you're all right. thanks very much for being with us this morning. we appreciate it. thanks very much, sir. a related note here. france may soon require social media influencers that they label photos that are edited. ashley, i think it goes further hand that, doesn't it? ashley: it certainly does. french. regulators also want to ban all paid partnerships that promote cosmetic surgery on social media. under this potential new law, as you mentioned, a photo or video that's filtered or retouch to thed must be labeled as such or the poster could face up to 2 years in jail and more than $30,000 in fines. french authorities say they're trying to limit what they call
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the destructive psychological effects that fake photos can have, saying it's important to avoid the promotion of, quote, inaccessible beauty ideals and to prevent anorexia among young people. now, the law not only holds french influencers accountable, it also applies to those who live abroad but earn money from sponsoring products sold in france. not law yet, but the issue is now being debated by france's national assembly. very aggressive. stuart: wonder if that debate will come over here. probably will. thanks, ash. tiger king star carol baskin shutting down her animal sanctuary. we'll tell you what she's doing with all those tigers. a fiery hearing on capitol hill on protecting free speech on college campuses. roll tape. >> our universities are failing miserably at the one thing they are being paid exorbitant amounts to do, exstudents. stuart: well -- educate students.
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♪ stuart: all right. the owner of the atlanta falcons, arthur blank, strongly backs diversity, equity and inclusion efforts, dei. what's he saying, ashley? ashley: well, he's the 80-year-old co-founder of home depot has said the company needs to address the underlying issues of racism, and regarding kei he says, quote, the notion of pluralism and acceptance of everybody based on who they are, what they can and cannot do,
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etc., that should be the highest priority for our nation. the falcons' owner says dei covers everyone, white, black or hispanic, and has opposed efforts in the past in some states that were trying to push back on dei policies. by the way, the nfl has agreed to policies that recommend each franchise hire a dei consulling about the, and each club will need to have a lead executive. stu. stuart: i think he's wrong on that, but i will move on. my next guest testified on capitol hill about anti-free speech policies on college campuses. roll tape. >> those students face an ever growing, ever present threat on campuses; that is, administrators working to chill and silence hair speech. our universities are failing miserably at the one thing they are being paid exorbitant amounts to do,s they're failing to educate students. stuart: sharis trump, the executive director of speech
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first, and she joins me now. here's where i'm coming from, i sense the tide is turning or beginning to turn on our universities. look at the outrage that still follows stanford law school debacle. it's still mt. headlines odd. tide turning? what do you think? >> i think the tide is turning with regards to the fact that we are actually seeing folks like our organization, speech first, if other activist organizations speak out more and get more attention for their petition campaigns, their ad campaigns. ask we're doing a lot more with regards to that. i don't know it's necessarily turning as much as we'd like to see it. stanford university did send out a wonderful, long, lengthy letter about how she's going another the things differently next time. but what they've still failed to do is actually take action and hold accountable administrators, dean and steinbeck, who encouraged the mob to actually shout down a sitting judge at a law school event.
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stuart: is that what you want to see, accountability for what they're doing? those yale law school students who shouted down a free speech meeting, accountability for the dean of diversity who interrupted a federal judge, that's the kind of accountability you want, right? >> right, because accountability leads to actually deterrence. you're e trying to deferer the future -- deter future behavior and promising to do better next time, that's never worked in the past, and it's the not going to now. stuart: listen to this one, or sharis dc -- michigan sate university has a language guide that tells them to avoid offensive phrases like christmas trees, overweight and even america. today want to include it with language that is, as they say, more inclusive. it's getting to the point that this is being met with ridicule and being dismissed. and that's the best thing to do, right? >> absolutely. and i hope that most students
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don't take this seriously either because michigan sate is a state university which means it's publicly funded and a government institution. they cannot force students to espouse various ideas or say certain speech that actually is against their first amendment rights just like they can't prohibit them from speaking certain words for their beliefs as well. i hope students don't take it too seriously, ands the encouraging that we all recognize thely kick the louseness of9 lot of these policies. but the scary thing is these kei offices are clearly attempting to control because once you control speech, you're controlling someone's thoughts. so that is what they're trying to do here. stuart: you're also controlling the people who in the future will work in our corporations and shape the intellectual straitjacket which these corporations are assembling. i'm sure you talk to a lot of students. do they really believe in being woke? >> so the scary part is there's a lot of apathy on college campuses. so whether or not they actually consider themselves woke, they are just going along with the
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motions. they're keeping their head down, avoiding speaking up, avoiding pushing back because hay think the universities at the end of the day have their best interests at heart. and that might be true this some cases, but when it comes to the dei departments on college campuses, hay don't. like you just mentioned, they're trying to train students to take these types of habits into the workplace and into their professional lives. stuart: these dei people, the bureaucrats, this is a lot of them, isn't there? >> yes. stuart: i mean, most of the major colleges, they've got this dei staff that we've got to pay for. >> yes. a lot of universities have even more administrators just when you're thinking about the giant bureaucracy, more administrators or and professors and in some cases more than students. so that's something to be disconcerted about this one regard, but then you have the dei departments which are the largest and fastest growing d.s on college campuses today. and these dei, they's powses woke ideology -- espouse woke ideology. they want students to only see each other as a race or as a
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gender or a sex. they do not want students to actually be in this as a sense of fellowship when they're actually all trying to except through the next four years together. they want students to report on each other and accuse each other of harassment and microaggressions and trigger warningsings. so these are types of ideas that dei departments are espousing and pushing on students. stuart: cherise, you are doing god's work in the devil's kitchen. kind of like that. consumerise trump, no relation, thanks for joining us. this is the where we show all 30 of the dow shock. >> stocks, as we say, to give you a sense of the market. a lot of buying today. about two-thirds of the dow 30 are up and one-third down. [laughter] here we go, listen to this, big splash with this story. angry extremist see begans took aim at a goat snuggling, okay? a goat snuggling farm. they call it animal exploitation. i i call that outrageous.
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stuart: tiger king star carole baskin is shutting down her animal sanctuary. >> hey, all you cool cats and kittens -- >> carole is the mother teresa of a cats. >> this is my way of living, and nobody's going to tell me any other way. stuart: shutting it down, got it. ashley, what happened? ashley: yeah. well, it costs a lot of money to run the big cat sanctuary, so much so that baskin is closing that facility and, by the way, the remaining animals -- they have about 40, 42 the animals, eyeing the -- tigers, some lynxes and a jaguar, heir going to be transported to an expanded wildlife refuge based many in arkansas. once all the cats have gone, the 67-acre property outside of am pa will be sold. i met with baskin at the sanctuary many questions and she told me then her campaign to protect the animals from unauthorized zoos has beenfect i have, and she says concern been effective, and she says the cub
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industries has gradually declined over the past 11 years which culminated in the recent passage of the big cat safety act that prohibits the private possession of big cats. she told me the goal was to put herself out of business and, apparently, it is mission accomplished. it's close to the a million and a half in overhead just to operate this facility, and with just 40 animals left behind, i think it's the about 38,000 per animal, per year. they rely on donors and their own money, so at some point concern she called it, i know she's going to call a happy day because-moment she was hoping she could pass on stewardship, and she'll work on other projects. stuart: that part of her life, over. got it. thanks, ash. listen to this, extreme veganses want to putin an end to the quote snuggling business. that's with an n, snuggling. they're taming -- taking aim at
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a family farm in virginia. can't do that, that is exploitation. well, justin owns the family farm, and he joins me now. justin, why don't you show me, if you can, how you snuggle a quote. >> well, it's kind of like this. stuart: okay, okay. [laughter] it looks like fun to me. why is that exploitation? >> oh, well, because some extremists believe that using animals for monetary gain is exploitation. so they don't agree with what we do. stuart: they've got you my which way you come, haven't they? if you actually use an animal any if way, shape or form, that according to the see begans, is exploitation. you can't win. go ahead. >> i said, right, yeah. this is just so horrible. [laughter] stuart: it looks awful. what's been the reaction? are the see begans still trying to shut you down -- vegans still
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trying to put you down? because with we put you on tv the yesterday. >> yeah. actually, believe it or not, i got a little more outlash i think because of the news coverage that's gone out, ask we've had a couple more, like, personal attacks on the farm the last few days. so, yeah, things can concern. stuart: wait a minute, wait a minute, personal attacks on the farm? what do you mean? >> well, out of nowhere yesterday i had the children and youth services come to my house worried for my children's safety because people are here snuggling the don'ts, and we haven't evented the people properly. [laughter] stuart: what? >> it's the pretty ridiculous are. there's attacks coming left and right. stuart: that is ridiculous. i've -- they actually came to your house worried about your -- good lord. okay. how much concern do you charge? >> $5. unlimited quote snuggles. there's no time frame.
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stuart: so if you set up, let's suppose you'd gone to a country fair. how many people would come by and snuggle with your quotes? -- goats? >> probably about, it depends on the size of fair, but 500 people a day possibly. and they'll just sit and snuggle. some stay for hours and some of them, you know, they're in and out in 5 minutes. adults, children, we've had state senators come and snuggle our gets. we've got a lot of support behind us. stuart: good. justin, keep it going, please, because it look like a very good thing. thank you very much, justin. out offing time the, unfortunately, but i there will be more "ny" after this. varney after this. . .
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stuart: thursday day trivia question how much did model t ford cost in 1908. you first, ash. >> all right, let's look at those choices. number two, 520 bucks. >> so will i because 100 bucks seals so cheap in 1908. the answer is, $850. that would be worth of the equivalent of about 28,000 bucks today now you know. send in "friday feedback" varney viewers.com. my time is absolutely up but nooast to coast" starts, right
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