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deal involving the bidens, china and the fbi? dr. fauci says the vaccines don't work, after he pushed them. i'm liz mcdonald and "the evening edit" starts right now. [♪♪] thanks for joining us this friday evening. look at your money. stocks ending up. an important inflation measure, core pce came in at 6% for february. former president trump is expected to be aruined tuesday at 2:15. word is his legal team is work on motions to dismiss. this indictment is still sealed. ashley webster is live at trump's florida estate of mar-a-lago. it's good to see you.

>>ou can imagine donald trump and his lawyers are hammering out that battle plan at mar-a-lago in palm beach. the secret service is also preparing to take donald trump to manhattan next tuesday for his arraignment. there are reports he's facing 34 counts of alleged business fraud. but on the face of it, it's just a misdemeanor. but it can be upgrade to a felony if fraud is committed intentionally. prosecutors investigating 150,000 in payments to "playboy" model karen mcdougal. the indictment remains sealed. andy biggs the republican from arizona says he believes the case as it stands doesn't have any standing.

>> this is a result of seven years of investigation and harassment of donald trump. they are trying to concert a misdemeanor into a felony. they want the pictures and image of political opponents so badly they are willing to kill the rule of law. >> the legal problems for the former president not just with the indictment. he's being investigated over the january 6 capital riots. the classified dowmentds sized by the fbi last august and alleged election interest force in georgia. front and center is the indictment, and how that will play out. >> you are seeing legal team members going in and out of mar-a-lago right now? >> yes, correct. apparently the president heard the news yesterday, he was shocked, then recovered. had dinner here at mar-a-lago last night and said he was very

combative by all reports. i am sure that was an understatement. liz: joining us, former whitewater counsel sol wisenberg. first to you, sol. 34 counts of alleged business fraud? that seems excessive? it seems like overkill. are we wrong, sol? it sounds like this case is weak that they need 34 counts? it seems over the top. >> the number of counts can be easily manipulated. and it isn't necessarily an indicator of anything. you have federal prosecutors who all the time bring 9-count mail fraud and wire fraud indictments. and conspiracy is added. to me that it's got a lot of

counts is meansless. the question is what is the essence of the charged crime. this whole idea of putting the indictment under seal, then announcing it and then it's going to be unsealed at the time of the arraignment. that's not a feature of new york law. they didn't have to put this indictment under seal, and they didn't have to announce it after they put it under seal. to me you have to question why did you do it that way? is there something you haven't told anybody about, a completely separate crime you found and you want people to comment then look foolish about it? who knows. we know this office is already engaged in misdirection by making people think there wasn't going to be an indictment this week, then there was one. i'm curious to see what the indictment is going to say. liz: why have the indictment sealed? what is the documentary evidence

the public has not seen for their case? >> li -- >> i was a federal prosecutor for years. there are a reasons why you add a lot of counts. sometimes it's just the nature of the statute. but other times it's the war of the optics. and you want a jury eventually to believe the more counts there are, there may be more criminal behavior. let's face it. those of us who have been prosecutors have added counts to put more pressure on the defendant and to make the case to be stronger than it is. if it's strong, we'll see that when it comes out. as to sealing it. it's odd they are doing it. but i think they are doing it so

it doesn't get away from them too soon. they want to get the former president arraigned. they want him booked and his photograph taken. then they will deal with the aftermath of how weak the case is or isn't. liz: right now it's about the court of public opinion. former attorney general bill barr reacting on kultd low saying they are shoe horning a state misdemeanor into a federal criminal tell any. that misdemeanor -- criminal felony. that misdemeanor had already expired on the statute of limitations. >> they take the misdemeanor which has a problem with the statute of limitations and try to shoe horn it into a felony by claiming the reason the documents were falsified was to cover up another crime. they are assuming the payments were a campaign fines violation

because they were a contribution to the trump campaign. this is an abomination. the epitome of the abuse of prosecutorial power, to bring a case that would not be brought against anyone else. they are going after the man, not a crime. liz: what do you think, sol? >> your viewers need to understand that this application of the law, the new york state law, this particular application, not only bootstrapping it into a felony which you can do under statute. if you commit this misdemeanor in order to further or hide another law, it can be a felony. but what is the law they are saying he's trying to hide? it's a federal campaign finance violation the federal government already declined to prosecute. this law has never been tested

in the new york court. this application of this law. so draw your own conclusions. liz: what sol just said. we have chuck schumer, we have nancy pelosi out there saying this is holding trump accountable on a case that could be tossed because there are so many holes in it. fbi director james comey. pelosi tweeting she thinks trump is guilty until proven innocent. and james comey saying, it's a good day. they took an oath to uphold the law. so this is an odd tweet higher. what do you think of all this? >> this is their day. this is what they have been waiting for. let them celebrate it. the wheels of justice grind

slowly but they grind fine. they will be filing motions and trump will be filing his first motion i predict on the statute of limitations. there is no pandemic exception to the statute of limitation that i'm aware of. you can't do it through executive order. this is their day. the opposition's day. but it's a marathon and not a sprint. liz: do you think the case falls apart and goes nowhere? >> yes. liz: what do you think, sol? >> i think the case ultimately will be dismissed. lids * let's welcome to the show former u.s. congressman jason chaffetz and steve forbes. the president is on a tour of 20

states talking jobs. polls show the white house is failing with voters. the majority say he's dishonest. are they ready for this? china is trying to replace the u.s. dollar with their currency in global trade. what do you think of that story, steve? >> china made it clear they want to downgrade the dollar because they think that will enhance their power around the world. the way we treated the dollar it has gone in that direction. china does not have real capital markets. china has capital control. in terms of currency people are going do prefer the dollar to the yuan. in that sense i think we have time to get our house in order. the 20-state tour with joe

biden. proclaiming that even though people are feeling things are not going well, they are saying things are going just fine. talk about the ultimate bubble. that is it. >> jason. just factually. talking to economists on wall street and in washington, when they keep saying that they don't want to be named in the quote, but they keep saying this might be one of the worst presidencies we have seen in the modern era. this is one of the worst white houses they have had to deal with. and just, you know, more problems for the american people that they expected, jason. >> the problem is they think they are doing a great job. after the 2022 election, joe biden said he was not going to change his trajectory in what he's doing. i think the world and certainly the united states sees this

projection of weakness. that's why china is on the move and russia does not feel any pains for the united states. they just took a "wall street journal" reporter. iran is developing a nuclear weapon. you have saudi arabia forming deals with iran. there is nothing the president can point to that is going well. the border is going in the wrong direction and prices are going up. and he's such a poor communicator. he may go on a tour. and the answer is not more cow bell biden. liz: the u.s. can borrow more cheaply than other rates because of the strengths of the dollar. we are seeing china with the yuan doing deals in the middle east. we added $20 thil to the u.s.

debt since obama. steve, they are undercutting u.s. defense and undercutting u.s. energy. that's what supports the strengths of the u.s. dollar. >> the dollar reflects the strength of the u.s. economy. they are doing everything they can to undermine the economy. we had a terrible decade in the 70s and the soviet union was seen as the rising power. and reagan came in and turned things around. people today recognizing more and more we are in deep trouble. and they are angst about what's happening around the world. the seizure of that journalist is one example. china is trying to secure the south china sea which is an international waterway. everything this country is doing is feeding what our adversaries

think is a declining power. we did respond to ukraine but we didn't throw enough fire power so they can push back the russians. that's a very dangerous situation. ultimately after 2024, the united states will be coming back, and that's where miscalculations can come. they don't realized how this country can rebound. we have done it before and i think we'll do it again. >> the polls show it. voters do not like this presidency. they keep saying america deserves better. what the far left power structure in washington has done is destroyed and undercut the u.s. on the world stage. where could we go from here, jason? this is a failed presidency. >> i think the country need to

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liz: joining us, senator ron johnson. let's break down this report based on hunter biden's laptop emails. that the lawyer for hunter biden's chinese business partner

patrick ho. he emailed hunter to ask him to lewis his fbi contact to help prevent ho from getting arrested. and hunter emailed back, i'm working on it. >> they wanted his influence and contacts. hunter biden had contacted inside the fbi handing him confidential information. it's improper at a minimum and my guess is it's illegal as well. this is why senator grassley and i did our investigation. it's unfortunate the media pande media panned it. liz: senator, when you look at

the timing of this. patrick ho hired hunter biden and a few months later patrick ho was convicted of bribery and money laundering. he was a top official at the chinese oil joint that send the biden family $400 million. >> hunter biden referred to patrick ho as the expletive deleting spy chief of china. they knew exactly the type of people they were dealing with and they lied about it. liz: they had to know the patrick ho would be under government surveillance. there are problems of espionage. it's the timing that matters. september 2017, patrick ho hires hunter, gives him a million

dollar contract to represent patrick ho as his attorney. then ho was arrested by fbi agents at the airportn on charges of bribing government officials at cefc, the same cefc sending the bidens millions of dollars. the timing is bizarre and it sounds like serious pay-to-play if the allegations are true. >> they knew who they were dealing with. they knew burisma was corrupt and they accepted millions of dollars from them. they are trying to peddle their influence all over the world. and joe biden was lying when he said he never talked to hunter biden about his joe seas business connections. this is a thoroughly corrupt family.

we are hearing some of these payments went to haley biden as well. this is a vast web of foreign financial entanglements. charles grassley and i laid it out. i never would have voted for joe biden. he's a highly compromised president. and we are just now getting out more and more of the details. liz: thanks for coming on. this debate over covid-19 side effects. the w.h.o. making moves and astrazeneca says side effects with that, too. dr. fauci now saying covid vaccines do not work after he pushed them. did the biden white house set the stage for u.s. reparations? we are excited to have stacy

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racist and president trump is racist. president biden had both houses under his control for two years and didn't take care of reparations. why are we discussing it now? liz: we would like to get your reaction to the former black lives matter activist. >> fear has always been the achilles heel of black america. that's why you see the leftist lawmakers using the evil bogeyman of systemic racism to get us to vote for them. it's insulting. they want us to view our own history as black people sitting around being complacent and waiting for a handout. >> you can't show me any proof of damages by any black american living in california. this is to stop the exodus of black males leaving the

democratic party. >> it's true the proposal is being floated in san francisco and the state of california don't acknowledge the fact that california was admitted to the united states as a free state. they never had slavery legal in that state. it's really just a ploy. i am tired of the democrats situation one side of their mouth that black americans are tokens of republicans. every bit of policy they try to push forward, they always hang around the knicks of black americans. we are victims. we can't do anything ourselves. leo is right. i'm tired of them using us. and not giving us policies that are related to kitchen table economics. liz: minorities and black americans would have to pay the tax bill for that.

that $800 billion price tag california its talking about is twice the size of canada. >> it's three times their annual budget. it will cost the other residents of california, $600,000 per family. that's not right. liz: americans know that slavery and racism is morally repugnant. stacy, thank you so much. we have more on the trump indictment and democrats in the media being called out for a rush to judgment on the case that is still saled and has a lot of holes in it. a big debate about covid-19 side effects. dr. fauci, saying covid vaccines don't work.

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liz: the world health organization has brand-new recommendations on covid vaccines for kids and teenagers. it's already made obsolete what u.s. officials have been advising. lucas tomlinson has the story. >> the world health organization says the vaccine should be prioritized for the most vulnerable. >> it should be based on risk. if you don't have vaccines to vaccinate the entire population. vaccinate those at highest risk.

>> the global guidance including in developing countries where vaccines are not widely available. they said countries should consider whether to continue to vaccinate healthy children and adolescents. but the cdc is standing firm on its recommendations that everyone get vaccinated. >> we believe the benefits in the high risk crosses over to young people. but given the risk of myocarditis in healthy young people, i don't recommend it. now that's children have had covid and have natural immunity. liz: yeah great journalism. thanks for bringing us that story. let's bring in, he's really smart.

he will tell you what's going on. dr. marc siegel. doctor, what do you make of that story? why isn't the cdc picking up on the w.h.o.'s recommendation? >> one of the reasons is the w.h.o. recommendation is about resources. in other words, you have a country that's poor or can't afford vaccines or getting a limited supply. that supply needs too go to those who need it the most, the elderly, those who are obese, those with high risk symptoms. those are underlying diseases. the younger population aren't generally in that group and healthy young people aren't at high risk. so i'm for what they said, and i think the w.h.o. should have said that months ago. we need to prioritized things. we are coming into an era where

covid is becoming more normal. liz: women who got one dose of astrazeneca's vaccine may have been 3 or 4 times more likely to die. that was delivered to 170 nations worldwide. >> that's something we goat right in the united states. the blood clots are probably the reason we didn't use it here. it got used around the world. it's a little skewed, that study. in 2021 in great britain they stopped giving it to those under the age of 30. so it's skewed but it's an important statistic that seems to show that astrazeneca's blood

clots are a serious consideration. liz: dr. fauci telling residents in d.c. in 2021 that the vaccine was safe. now he's saying it doesn't work. watch this. >> under very, very rare chance that you do get it, even if you are vaccinated, you don't even feel sick. it's like you don't even know you have been infected. are we going to eliminate sars covid 2? no. something we all know, the vaccine induced and infection induced immunity is measured in months, not in decades or you a lifetime. >> but if you are younger the risk of the vaccine, even though they are rare can exceed the risk of the disease. and i think giving three

vaccines, we have universities mandating three vaccines. i think that's malpractice because the risk of myocarditis increases with each vaccine. the government says do as you are told. don't think about this, don't listen to any dissent, just do as you are told. that's a recipe for bad medicine and malpractice. liz: do as you are told by dr. fauci who claims you don't get sick from vaccines. do as you are told from dr. fauci who said get vaccinated. now he says they do not work after a few months. the vaccine immunity goes away. then you heard senatorrened rand paul there. -- senator rand paul there. >> i think dr. fauci got into a

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liz: look who is back with us. former governor asa hutchinson. the trump indictment. there has been a rush to judgment on a case that's still sealed. there are 34 counts. basically he's getting indicted in the court of public opinion. >> thanks for having me on. absolutely we have to wait for the facts in this case. and we have to remind ourselves there is a presumption of

innocence in our society. as a former federal prosecutor i would have used my discretion and not made a charge of a former president. let's see what facts are. i am surprised he kept thet be . but regardless, let's wait to see what it is, make a judgment at times and remember there is a presumption of innocence. >> congress has its own office of compliance with a slush fund that pays out millions of dollars to settle hundreds of sexual harassment and discrimination cases brought against lawmakers since the 90s. that's going on too at the same time. there is a double standard there. the rush to judgment, sir, let's get your reaction to this. the media is not covering the facts in the case and the holes

in it. it's just about get trump. >> donald trump finally won a popular vote yesterday. the grand jury voted to indictment him. >> it may be the best day in this political era we have been living through. the seal is broken. it shows he can be charged. >> because he has gotten away with so much for so long. so many of his victims will never see their day in court. it's understandable that some people would be feeling vindicated and celebratory. >> indicting a president and politician is a normal thing in this country. liz: indicting a president is a normal thing in this country? it's never happened before. >> you think about how the world is looking at us. when we have national security issues from border security to russia's invasion of ukraine to

the threats our taiwan. and here we are having an indictment of a former president. now, it's a sad day for america that this has happened. but each of those guests prejudging this case is undermining our system of justice. let us get the facts out and develop it. let's see where this goes. we have to remember that two prosecutorial units declined the same case. based on what we know, it doesn't look good. but the's see what he presents when it comes out next week. liz: we want to see documentary evidence. the nobody justice. people just demean themselves with that kind of attitude. on the face of it the case is weak. what you are saying is the manhattan d.a. himself, bragg,

he dropped it. the doj dropped it and the fec dropped it. and the statute of limitations expired on it. >> a grand jury found probable cause, with you we don't know exactly what they town because we haven't seen it yet. all the surrounding elements of this doesn't make sense. i don't understand district attorney bragg sealing the indictment at this point. i don't understand the lack of to as to what happened in the most serious of cases. then he makes it look political because he campaigned using trump's name in his campaign. liz: probable cause of a business fraud based on a payment trump admitted making out of his own pocket. he better have documentary evidence to support all 34 counts or this will look

ridiculous to the american voter. >> that's right. i saw mr. cohen, one of the government's witnesses talking about it. clearly he has a grudge against the former president. that's the last thing you want if you are a prosecutor is to have one of your witnesses going on television showing a bias. liz: d.a. bragg campaigned on saying he was going to get trump. >> that's unacceptable. that shouldn't be the case. presumption of innocence is the march word of the day. liz: thanks for joining us. coming up. my hot take. we think you will like it. don't move. is made for people like sam who make...? ...everyday products... ...designed smarter. like a smart coffee grinder - that orders fresh beans for you. oh, genius! for more breakthroughs like that... ...i need a breakthrough card... like ours! with 2.5% cash back on

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>> one thing that sticks out on the trump indictment 34 counts of alleged business fraud seems excessive like it's overkill on a case that is under sealed in the rush to judgment and the media and democrats not about the facts is about indicting trump in the court of public opinion social media even calling out the bias of nancy pelosi tweeting she thinks trump is guilty until proven innocent that is contrary to u.s. law the former fbi director james comey tweeting it is a good day both

of them took an oath to uphold the rule of law democrats and media argue this is hold them accountable how was the hold them accountable we don't even know what the case is about is under seal it's the case that can be tossed as a reasonable doubt in the same d.a., d.o.j., already dropped the case is weak how is this holding trump accountable about about the double standard the secret slush fund that you pay for that congress uses to pay for the sexual harassment and discrimination cases, were on the story e-mail us with love reading your e-mails at fox.com tell us what do you think until this monday will have former secretary doctor ben carson, former u.s. attorney guy lewis and twitter file journalist michael shellenberger. thank you for joining us, have a good weekend. the coos that dagen and shawn have a hot show coming up, the bottom line. >> thank you so much ♪ ♪