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larry: we heard from alvin bragg today and it was a bunch of baloney. tonight we'll hear from donald trump from mar-a-lago. i guarantee you it'll be a lot better and elizabeth macdonald is always a lot better. liz: thank you so much, larry. we're staying on the story that was terrific show. larry: thank you. liz: of course we agree with everything you just said, larry. we'll dig into it even more and show how weak this case is.
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manhattan da bragg, just spoke on charging former president trump with 34 counts of falsifying business records saying trump violated new york state election law, but bragg's indictment nowhere does bragg spell out in each of those 34 counts where the second federal felony charge is. the basically, the federal election criminal violation, so he's talking about intent to defraud or conceal and in further evidence of other crimes if you read the indictment that's what it says but what exactly was that crime? again bragg does not spell it out. he said, new york state law says he doesn't have to. this hour, former president trump is en route back to his florida estate, mar-a-lago, after pleading not guilty. the former president will speak in just a few hours, at 8:15 p.m. eastern time, let's get right back to lydia hu. she's been breaking the news outside the manhattan criminal court. lidia good to see you. reporter: great to see you as well, liz. that's correct. former president donald trump pleaded not guilty to 34 felony
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counts of falsifying business records here at manhattan criminal court today, just hours ago. trump arrived at the courthouse at roughly 1:30 this afternoon and spared the handcuffs and mugshot but he was fingerprinted and later walked into the courtroom about an hour after arriving with a straight face, took a seat and at types the courtroom contained more than 20 law enforcement officers in uniform. justice juan marshawn decided not to issue a gag order on the former president but made it clear he could change his mind if he continues to see more social media posts similar to the one that recently stirred controversy, a photo depicting trump holding a baseball bat next to manhattanda alvin bragg and saying his concern is such posts could possibly insight violence but now without a gag order trump was believed to be planning to speak after the arraignment to press, but chose not to speak at all.
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he departed without speaking to cameras. trump's lawyer did speak afterwards, and he had this to say. watch. >> in total, the grand jury found there were 34 documents with this critical false statement. why did donald trump repeatedly make these false statements? the evidence will show that he did so to cover up crimes relating to the 2016 election. reporter: so, liz, that was actually district attorney alvin bragg who you just heard from. he was defending his, explaining his case that he's brought, that contains the 34 counts, felony counts against former president donald trump. his attorney joe takapina was making the criticism of this kay saying it's as simple as this as a state prosecutor prosecuting federal election law violations
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that doesn't exist according to federal election officials simple as that. now former president trump as you mentioned is now on his way back to florida, where he will appear later tonight at mar-a-lago expected to address hundreds of his supporters. it should be noted here, liz, that trial if convicted former president trump could face as much as four years per felony count, if convicted on all counts given the maximum sentence he could face up to 136 years in jail. liz: got it. lydia hu, thank you so much. really appreciate your reporting there. let's welcome back to the show former u.s. attorney guy lewis, former federal prosecutor katie turkowski. both have read the indictment ment a lot of prosecutors are not fans of donald trump. when you take out the words though, it's basically when you see it, and we've read through it too, it feels more like a books and records case and not a federal campaign violation felony here. what do you think, katie?
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>> well, you're absolutely right. there was really no surprises or bombshells in the indictment but i think the biggest surprise is the fact that there's no federal or felony offense that is mentioned. i think this could be a problem for the prosecutor. they need to put the defendant on notice of what they're actually defending against and here, bragg says that he doesn't have to include his theory. this is going to be something that i anticipate will be litigated pretty early on because he needs to connect these allegations to a felony offense in order to survive even the statute of limitations issue early on so this could be kicked off pretty early if there's not a sufficient connection there, so we still don't know what that is even looking at the indictment. liz: so, you know, to what katie just said, guy, again reading through the 34 counts, he's basically saying that, you know, da bragg, that there was intent to conceal, or intent to defraud but in each of the 34 counts, guy, he doesn't say the
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intent to defraud what or what was the second crime. he doesn't not spell that out, that second crime in the 34 counts. what do you make of that, guy? >> liz, shockingly thin and pathetically weak. i've studied the indictment as well and i'm looking for any hint of the evidence that would sustain the indictment. katie is 100% right. expect the motion to be filed on this thing immediately and the judge i think will grant the motion and i guess give the government the state attorney the da a chance to amend the indictment, but boy oh , boy. i read it and it's a legal train wreck. liz: so, you know, what guy just said, let's just backup. katie, this is about reasonable doubt, right? so if it goes to trial, and by the way they are talking about a december 4 hearing, in the next trial date or court date.
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december 4 is a long way away, katie. so, donald trump could step in and say listen. you know, i made these payments because i was worried about my marriage with melania. i was worried about the trump organization. i was worried about my reputation. it does come around the 2016 election. people get that, but again, the intent, proving intent is key here to proving the federal campaign violation, right, katie >> oh, absolutely. whenever you have a specific intent crime, and remember, " hush money payments" are not unlawful. we're talking about the intent for paying and whether that actually was for the purpose of concealing a crime, so it's kind of this technicality in a large sense that i think that they are going to have a huge issue prov ing, and you've seen the john edwards case. that's the direct comparison here. that case was significantly stronger and had very similar facts in some ways but they couldn't get a conviction on that and that's because of that very issue with the intentment
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liz: so, you know, we talked about charge stacking last friday. we've been reporting on that, what this case is also about, guy. again, a lot of reasonable doubt 34 counts of falsifying business records with intent to defraud covering up, but again, let me backup. the hush money payments booked as legal expenses. nowhere in the 34 counts does alvin bragg say that was done with intent to influence a federal election, and 34, by the way, is a lot. certainly for state charges. it's unusual for federal charges to have that many, and the feds often take pride in over- charging, guy, but it's really curious that each of those 34 counts he doesn't spell out what the intent to defraud was about. >> so, liz, quantity never equals quality, and that's what i'm shocked, frankly, about when i read this indictment. the quality indictment. you read it and there's no, i mean, he went on tv a few
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minutes ago and gave a opening statement which was improper as well but you read the indictment and the evidence is not laid out. it's not a speaking indictment. it's really, it's going to be subject to a motion to dismiss and it's going to happen in short order. liz: so this charge-stacking, turning one incident to multiple counts, katie, you know, you have by the way, this indictment was sealed. there's a fear now that the jury pool be tainted, or that basically, you know, the d. a.' office maybe people think this is such a ridiculous case we'll push out to december 4 the next court hearing and will be thrown out on motions to dismiss. where do you come down, final word, katie? >> oh, i absolutely think that there's some severe legal challenges before you even get to the facts of what happened here, that are going to be launched against this case if anything this indictment shows exactly how criminal michael cohen is and he is still
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the prime witness so more to be seen on that. liz: guy lewis, katie cherkowski here. thanks for your time. let's bring in retired fbi agent miranda devine. thank you, so much, for each of you for joining us tonight. bobby first to you. your legal read, both of you have read the indictment. what's your reaction on the indictment? >> well, i was really shocked at how thin it was. i saw a lot of things that i wouldn't expect to see but then i expected so much more depth. i expected the crime that was alleged to be covered up to be mentioned and described in detail. i mean, this is so light on -- it doesn't even actually charge a crime if you look at it because if they leave out the crime that he supposedly is covering up with these false business records, then there's no crime. you have to specify that. i don't care if new york state law doesn't say you have to. i mean, that's a supreme court challenge on the federal level and that statute will be considered too vague to be valid
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, so i think that, i read it and what shocked me was the lack of substance. liz: to what bobby just said, what did you think, miranda, when you read it? >> look, i completely agree and i think that, you know, people were expecting there was going to be some big surprise and there wasn't. it's as flimsy as everybody suspected but couldn't quite believe. it just, to me, shows that the democrats are reckless and ruthless and unscrupulous. they will stop at nothing to destroy donald trump. they have been trying from the minute that he showed his face in politics, and they will continue, and i think it's a huge tragedy that alvin bragg has allowed his office and the state of new york, the city of manhattan, to be used in this way. i just can't see it surviving as
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a lot of lawyers have said, but i think, you know, in the wake when hunter biden is down in soh o yucking it up selling his paintings for a reported $500,000 each to buyers unknown, it just shows what the two-tier ed justice system that we're existing under. liz: you know, so bobby, when we're looking at this , the closest they come to the second federal criminal campaign violation, it's on page 619. it says that michael cohen says that trump said they could delay the payment to stormy daniels until after the election and maybe by paying it all together because at that point after he won it wouldn't matter, because he would have won the election basically. i mean, so that's the most they have in the way of intent, but again, this is michael cohen's word for it. he's a convicted perjuorer. so bobby when you see the reasonable doubt coming into this case, and you know, motions to dismiss likely coming
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, from the former president's side, when you see this case being brought, do you fear that what more and more prosecutors and lawmakers also warning about that this sets a very dangerous precedent for our democracy where the courts are being used as a political weapon it's undermining the confidence of the american people in the legal system. >> there's no doubt that that's what's happening. alvin bragg is a progressive democrat who ran on the platform of going after donald trump. it was a campaign promise. he made his office political even before he was elected. he told the people, i will make this a political prosecution and remember, previously, bragg was a new york state attorney general's office going after trump on other things and the trump organization, so i'm not surprised at this at all and i think you're right. this is the new political landscape. i think the schedule of hearings set so far in the future, now we're going to be into the next campaign, next presidential campaign by next year when these things are all playing out, these hearings are playing out in court, so i think this is, i think you'll have other progressive d. a.'s throughout
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the country, leveling charges against trump and this is the new political landscape. liz: so by on york, miranda, says that you know, basically d. a. bragg is following through on his campaign promise to "get trump." but when you look at the case, again, we've talked to people who prosecutors and lawyers are no fans of trump and again, you take out the words trump and look at the facts of the case, i mean, we understand other networks are running with it like yeah this is a get trump moment but we don't see this case being brought through to a federal criminal violations of campaign law. that's where it hangs on. that's what's the intent to defraud and it's not proven out in the , unless he's got the documents unless it's a he said-he said and by the way, miranda, you and i have talked about this , robert costello, michael cohen's former legal advisor said he gave 321 e-mails that were exculpatory in favor of donald trump. they only took six of them and 315 were knocked out.
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on that basis alone this could all be tossed. >> well, i mean, it's on so many bases this could be tossed. what is the felony? they haven't spelled that out. as you say, michael cohen, convicted perjuror, he's the star witness. it really is a travesty. i mean, it's an embarrassment for the united states on the world stage. down at the courthouse, they were enormous numbers of media from every country in the world that has a media. i know this is playing huge in australia and everywhere else. it's really damaging. it's giving the wrong impression it is a joke of a prosecution, but we're seeing that this is going to be marching on into the election season. they're talking about a trial in january, in the middle of the primary season, and then there are other cases that are coming forth so you're just
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going to see a rolling thunder approach of just bringing trump down and you saw from his demeanor in his face today, he's resolute. he's toughed it out before. he will tough it out again. liz: he's got the classified documents and the election interference case too, so miranda, former attorney general william barr and andy mccarthy said this could open a pandora's box of political indictments against other elected officials as well as family members and using the courts to set a political score is what's really dangerous and the other debate too is local d. a.'s should not have the power to indict presidents unless they have an airtight case and not just strung out on novel legal theories. >> not just past presidents, somebody running for president, i think is the danger here is that there's a public interest in all of this , and one of the public interests is just having transparency, so but there's another public interest and so one you noted that we
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can't have local prosecutors all over the country going after national candidates for president just because they are in the opposite party. bragg made it clear he was. he ran on that and so that's the frightening part about this is this is not a murder case. this is a somebody paying off somebody, which is not illegal, to keep quiet about an affair. again, not illegal. and so this is a prosecution very flimsy and thin and the only time prosecutions like this should be brought is when there's a serious crime and serious evidence. liz: it's just so he says it's concealed criminal conduct, to hide damaging information from the voters during the 2016 election, but again, in each of the 34 counts he doesn't spell out what the second actual crime was, and what the proof was, that that was the intent. right? so they don't have, it doesn't sound like they have the document proof just yet. we haven't seen it for that second federal felony. bobby, miranda, thank you so much for joining us. pleasure having you both on. >> thank you. liz: we've got congressman
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michael burgess and carol roth on the white house now in turmoil, reports coming in, it's options are running out as opec + and saudi arabia cut oil production and gas is going higher, hitting middle class and working class voters hard. and experts warn biden's polls could drop even more. we've got the trifecta coming in it's rising gas, record inflation, and rate hikes, but, the white house still plans $4.7 trillion in tax hikes. that's again, we're also seeing, staying on the story that biden 's approval ratings are trending below most all presidents since truman. we're staying on the story, more on president trump on the way back to florida. he's set to talk in a few hours. stay right there. ♪
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liz: we're going to be tracking the trump indictment throughout the showment the white house was surprised and stunned by opec plus' decision and saudi arabia 's decision to cut oil production by more than 1 million-barrels per day. now, it looks like a 2.7 million per day cut since last fall, all -in. again the white house is shocked by this. its already drained the strategic reserves to record -low levels so what are
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their options now? edward lawrence has the story. he's live at the white house with more. edward? reporter: liz, and you know that shock starting to wear off about opec + oil production cuts but the reality setting in that gas prices might rise as the price of oil is rising. >> i think it's just within a matter of the next few days we'll start to see those retail gas prices accelerating as a result of those opec production cuts. reporter: so, no new announcements from the white house to help bring down gas prices, or offset the oil production cuts, as the peak driving summer season is a few months away. >> i'm not going to get into hypotheticals about the summer and what the summer is going to bring but again, that's the main focus for this president is the american people. we'll continue to work with all producers and consumers to ensure energy markets support economic growth and lower again lower prices for the american consumer. reporter: and part of their work here at the white house centers around the inflation reduction act and all of the spending to
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transition the economy. $1 billion worth of it announced today, in doing so the treasury secretary admits the inflation reduction act is about climate, not reducing inflation. >> this will mobilize tens of billions of dollars in investments across the clean energy supply chain and as other s have said, the inflation reduction act is at its core about turning the climate crisis into an economic opportunity. reporter: and not even a wisper here of changing economic policies or changing restrictions related to energy that could discourage investment and turn it around and promote oil drilling and more production in the u.s.. back to you. liz: edward lawrence thank you so much. it's good to see you. look whose here from house energy congressman michael burge ss, carol roth is back with us. great to have both of you on. you know all of this over the trump indictment, congressman, the news is flying
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under-the-radar. president biden has achieved something no other president has done in modern history. his approval rating is now lower than every president since tru man, and you know he's got a growing record of failure. he's failed on crime, failing public schools, the border collapse, afghanistan, the threat from china, historic inflation and energy policy. where are the wins for biden here, congressman? >> there are none, and in fact, every cabinet secretary he has is an abysmal failure starting with secretary of energy and just on down the line, but look. you're absolutely correct in your lead-in. he drained the strategic petroleum reserve to prevent a blow diabetes out at the ballot box in november but now, we are going into the summer driving season, and i've got to tell you i saw just on the way back to the house this evening, gas prices at $3.10 in texas, at this time of year?
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guess what? it'll be 4.50 by memorial day. liz: so what he just said, congressman just said, what do you think, carol? where are gas and oil going? >> i mean, certainly, you have more demand that's been coming online from china, and then you have production that's being cut , so back to my economics 101 class that's telling you that the prices are going higher, and it's just really unfortunate because this is all driven by biden's bad anti-energy policy and his refusal to change course. i mean, we have had record inflation and he could have at any point in time said we're moving in the wrong direction. we are going to change course, to help the american people and he refuse toss do that, liz. liz: so what carol just says, congressman, we need to get u.s. energy unleashed. we need american production back up to 13 million-barrels a day. we're about half a million barrels short of that and we've got to stop putting our destiny and security in the hands of dictators. the only reason that production
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in the u.s. is up is because american producers are producing on private lands. we know you guys in the house are trying to restore energy independence through the hr-1 lower energy cost act but it fears that the senate democrats are just going to kill that bill >> well, maybe not, and maybe there are parts of it that can survive, but you're absolutely right. production, everyone points to production in the permian basin. yes it's up in texas thank goodness is not burdened by the federal lands policy, but they could be doing so much more , and the drilling in new mexico, drilling in other states in the west certainly could be happening now to increase the supply. hr-1 was a great first step, and it showed how with a pretty slim majority in the house of representatives we could pull together and get something major across the finish line. now it's up to the senate, and i think there are parts of it that easily could survive the senate,
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particularly when you see the pressure that it's going to bring going into the summer. liz: just the blue collar worker and the middle class worker is getting hammered, carol. i mean now you got u.s. alloys like japan, now buying russian oil above the per-barrel cap that biden and the g-7, you know, imposed on russia, and the japan is breaking away from the white house. mexico may join china and russia 's briccs alliance and every time that you see oil going higher, that's when russia invades, and invaded crimea, georgia, and now it's invading ukraine, because it sees this presidency as weak. that's what putin is doing, carol. final word. >> this is a sign post of a new financial world order and it is on the back of biden's weak leadership, his anti-energy policy, his weaponization of the dollar. these are the things that are going to shift that. liz: thanks for joining us, again, we are staying on the trump indictment throughout
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liz: okay, we've got former president trump on his way back to mar-a-lago right now. he is expected to deliver remarks at 8:15 p.m. eastern time. stay right there. we're staying on the story for you but let's bring in army veteran the vice president of foreign policy, at the heritage foundation, he's lt. colonel james carafano. sir, colonel, what was your reaction on this story, both nbc and cnn reporting that the
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chinese spy balloon did in fact collect intelligence flying over u.s. military bases in february. the white house dismissed that saying that was not the case. republicans are asking where is the sanctions on china? >> yeah, the president lied to us. he lied to our face about a matter of national security. i don't know any modern president whose intentionally lied to the american people. you know, eisenhower at least was honest about this and sputni ck didn't violate our air space, but the president lied to our face, today. liz: so let's listen to president biden assuring that all of the sensitive sites were protected. you can hear him justify when to shoot down the balloon and down playing china spy balloon. watch the president. >> we don't yet know exactly what these three objects were, but nothing right now suggests they are related to china's spy balloon program or there were surveillance vehicles from any other country. the intelligence community's
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current assessment is that these three objects were most likely balloons tied to private companies, recreation or research institutions studying weather or conducting other scientific research. liz: but none of that was the case. the bloomberg report of the white house wanted to hide this existing from the public. remember they didn't talk about it for days on end, because secretary of state anthony blinken was going to beijing. >> first of all, the spy balloon was a spy balloon. the administration knew that from day one. they watched it, they didn't watch it, they knew it took off. they tracked it. they knew it was on an intelligence collection mission. the other three balloons they shot down, they were civilian balloons and it was perfectly obvious when they shot them down that was literally stupid hour of a stupid reaction by this administration and he's been talking about the balloons he's just going back to talking about stupid stuff and he's ignoring the real threat. it's really unconscionable. liz: so republican mike gallaghe r, he's chair of
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the house arms services sub committee on cyber information technologies and such. he's saying basically this is a worse intelligence failure since 9/11. >> yeah, absolutely, and here is the problem is look at this from the chinese perspective. what just happened? they violated air space, they collected intelligence data and the president dismissed us and do you think that's a deterrent for the chinese coming after us again in the future? liz: okay lt. colonel james cara fano commenting on the chinese spy balloon. thanks so much for joining us, it's good to see you. we're staying on the weakness in the da bragg's case against donald trump and they are now coming in and working on motions to toss it out. we're going to explain why it's weak. we're going to stay on the story for you and we've got new details emerging in the house probe of the hunter biden and the biden family overseas business deals and congressman
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liz: okay, look whose here, congressman tim burgess. great to have you on, sir. let's talk about the trump indictment, the 34 felony charges. the d. a. is saying those are felony crimes under new york state law. he's saying no matter who you are those are felony crimes but when we look through the 34 counts he's saying that there was intent to defraud or conceal criminal conduct, that hid damaging information from the voting public in the 2016 election. congressman? when we look through the 34 counts, he doesn't spell out what exactly the proof is that that was donald trump's intent. donald trump, there's enough reasonable doubt, he could say listen. i didn't want to ruin my
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marriage, or i didn't want to ruin, you know, the reputation of the trump organization. do you feel like there's enough reasonable doubt here to toss this thing? >> yes, i do. [audio cutting in and out] liz: okay, we're having technical difficulties. let's go to bill mcgurn , he's at the "wall street journal." he's an opinion columnist. bill, you just heard, i hope you just heard that question. we believe you've read the indictment through. bill, the question is, did you see enough proof in this indictment to charge donald trump the federal criminal violation of campaign law. did you see enough proof there was intent to conceal or basically mislead the american people there? is there enough reasonable doubt is there enough reasonable doubt there? >> yeah, more than reasonable
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doubt. i think he singularly failed in his job as prosecutor to bring an indictment that's coherent, that has precedent, and that people know what's in it. people are debating it, because it's unclear. it's so irresponsible to do this to the country in the middle of a presidential race on the basis of something so flimsy and so untested. you know, if you are going to indict a former president and a presidential candidate, it should be like for bank robbery or murder or something, or something clear that people can see. it's not this , and let me say that the multiple accounts that's a trick that bad prosecutors use when the case is flip say. add up the numbers. multiply the counts by counting each entry as a separate charge. i mean, it's just ridiculous.
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liz: you know, bill, he's saying the law does not require him to spell out what the second crime was. >> yeah, the law may not require him to do that, but i think a good prosecutor, in a case this sensitive. he's doing something no other prosecutor has done before. he's interfering in the election he's doing it deliberately. you know, i don't think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. remember, he campaigned that he was going to get donald trump if elected. didn't spell out a crime. it's not like usually, the d. a . has a crime turned over to them and the cops say this guy did it. in trump's case it was okay, we've got the man we want to convict and then we'll find out the crime to fit, and this is what they came up with after all those things that go back seven or eight years? it's just outrageous. liz: so this feels like
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prosecutorial abuse. so bill all of this is going on while the president is making moves that are hurting the american voter. the middle class voter. the working class voter. he's big on climate change. we get that. he's trying to do that to protect climate change agenda to protecting the environment but now they are talking about all electric trucks for the supply chain out of california. california's requiring all electric big rigs and trucks. i mean, that is going to likely wreck the supply chain because there's not enough charging stations for cars. >> yeah. it used to be guns and now it's butter. it's unbelievable. you can't will the green economy into existence, and force it by government. all you can do is create in efficiencies and shortages. i think we're going to pay a huge price for this for years to come. some people pay in terms of
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getting equipment and cars that don't work, heaters or something. it's just arrogance. there's no modesty to it and some day it'll be remembered. the green new deal will be remembered the way we remember all of those shell-ready project s under president obama's stimulus. just it'll take a while. liz: bill the other thing, the supply chain has been taking hits like toxic rail crashes. there's a way to fix toxic rail crashes but this white house won't talk abet. use pipelines to deliver hazardous chemicals not by train the biden is saying the supply chain will be made in america. we've had five straight months of contraction in manufacturing because of his inflation to high energy costs. bill you've got 10 seconds and then we have to go. sorry about that. >> i would say what you're saying is that the decisions have consequences, unintended consequences. if you make pipeline harder you'll get trains and so forth. and the administration doesn't
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care. liz: okay. the evening edit, thank you, bill mcgurn, thank you for stick ing around for us for another block. we are staying on the indictment of former president trump. he is set to deliver remarks later this evening, and we've got more details on that coming up, and also more details on what is going on with the biden family. business deal probe, but first, let's check in with our pals dagen and sean, they have a hot show coming up on the bottom line. good to see you guys. dagen: kayleigh mcenany will join us right at the top of the show to dig into this indictment, again harvard law school. alvin bragg doesn't even name the underlying crime to justify this list of felonies. it's worse than imaginable. >> sean: charlie hurt unpock ing the politics of this indictment and what it means for the 2024 election and mauricio manski diving into the la mansion tax, what its impact is going to be, more money or less sales? all in about 13 minutes. clearchoice dental implants
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of congress people that i came to congress with that said they were going to impeachment trump before he was even sworn in. you know, this is completely out of line, and we know it. 34 indictments is a shot gun effect. they aren't even mentioning the crime. the whole thing is just, i've been all over east tennessee today and every person i've ran into is the number one topic and these people aren't political people. liz: they aren't spelling out what the federal campaign violation was the second crime, intent to defraud and steal. what? they didn't say what it was in the 34 counts so it's also, this is a segway into the hunter biden story. there was concealment of that story. it was censored on, you know, twitter and other social media and now reports coming in that four biden family business associates, four of hunter biden 's business partners now cooperating with the house probe into the biden family selling access and making money off of selling influence and influence overseas. what do you think of this story?
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>> i think they don't want to go to the federal penetentary for the big guys. i think you have a crime family and you start squeezing them and they start squealing and that's exactly what they are doing. they have the goods. if i had chairman comer or jim jordan asking questions, i'd be very nervous right now, and that's exactly what they are because they know they got the goods on them. liz: congressman, chairman comer says there are at least 10 different transactions that will show the president's immediate family was personally getting money from china, beyond the collective $1.3 million cut in 2017 that came through to the family from biden family associates. that came out of the chinese energy company. so, then now, they are counting 10. they don't even have all of the 150 sars, suspicious activity reports out of the treasury department. your word on this , congressman. well, those reports are incredibly damming, because they don't just send those out willy-nilly and you rarely ever
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see them sent out and then obviously, over 100 of these reports are out there and it's very easy to seize upon that, because that information will condemn them i believe. liz: okay, so at least money laundering, wire fraud is what the house probe is that basically is saying congressman comer says that what was the biden family selling? they don't make anything. final word. >> they are selling influence. i think the communist chinese have completely infiltrated this white house through hunter to the big guy and i think you saw it with the chinese balloon and we're going to see more of this , enemies no longer a theory. liz: congressman thanks for joining us. stick right there we have more on the trump indictment today. we'll be right back. back in two. with fidelity income planning, we'll help you create a clear, personalized plan for cash flow, even when you're not working. one that includes your 401(k) and all your other accounts.
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feature writer for george w. bush. one and only bill magarity. bill, we love your thoughts and perspective. when there's a lot of reasonable doubt and more prosecutors are talking about that this sets a precedent for dessert for democracy it's being used as a
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political weapon that undermines the confidence of the american people their democracy and their legal system. when you come down all that? let's it's very bad for donald trump or even know it boost his ratings in the short-term. but i think it is worse for america. this is an abuse of the judicial system. and in the prosecution. and local district attorney i think it's outrageous. we do not know the fault consequences but we will be paying for this in years. already people are more polarized to what they were three days ago. we are going to see it escalate i believe it. it's on the first of and i'm succumbing. proxy does not still out in the indictments, the concealment, the cover of, the hush money payment to stormy daniels. how exactly that was an intent to defraud the american people and this is the federal campaign violation for there is no
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linkage there that walks the leader through the process at all to make it a felony. proxy would not spell it out either if it's as weak. now, he will claim law does not require him too. when you indict a former president and a current candidate you have to be more careful you ... your eyes and cross your teas. this was just a political gain. he campaigned on it. basically it was if you elect me i will find a crime to hang on donald trump and he did. liz: books and record case becomes a campaign violation it's not really explained in the indictment, final word. >> yes. it is outrageous. i hope a judge dismisses it. because you should not even have to go through trial for this. liz: general you for joining us i think is so much for watching the evening and it's good to see you, bill, foxbusiness for that dozen for us. we appreciate you spending time with us this evening for going to send the trumpet type up your it over too daggett and shawn they've got the hot show on the bottom line. good to see you.

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