tv Cavuto Coast to Coast FOX Business April 7, 2023 12:00pm-1:00pm EDT
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ashley: time for the friday trivia question. what is the top selling easter candy in america? peeps, jelly beans, cadbury eggs or peanut butter eggs? they are all good. the answer is peeps! 22% of the marketplace, that is according to amazon. all right, our time is up. coming up next, "coast to coast" , have a great weekend, everybody. neil: all right, on this good friday, there is no trading and right now, officially no treasury trading. the bond market now closed, with interest rates backing up, stock prices were up a little
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bit when you look at the futures and all in response to a pretty good employment report that was kind of like one of those goldilocks reports. welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. let's get right to it and what that report portends for those just tuning in and maybe missing this news earlier today, the economy generated 236,000 more jobs in the latest month. in case you're counting that's over a million jobs in the first few months of this year. the unemployment rate is at 3.5% , and the reason why stocks were moving ahead is it was not coming with any signs of apparent inflation, or at least as much inflation as we've seen. average hourly earnings increasing about three-tenths of a percent, so again, under estimates that were out there. scott martin skhreli here, kings view asset manager, gary kaltbaum, both geniuses and here to weigh in. scott, to you first on what you made of the jobs report and kind of the tentative response we saw from a market that's not technically open but liking what it saw.
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>> yes. good report, neil. right down the middle, as we're seeing at the masters these days or at least i was when i was flipping back between the report , the reaction and the golf because look the market is in that mood as you mentioned to kind of i think take things say a little bit better these days than it had been because things are becoming a little bit more predictable certainly along the lines of inflation topping out or leveling off and the federal reserve depending on who you listen to whether it's jim bullard looking at ending this rate hike they have been on what seems like forever now so as long as these reports come in as you mentioned right along the lines of expectations or in some cases with wage growth a little better than expectation, i think you have a reality going forward where the fed steps out of the way and the market can take over here and go up. neil: you know, there's a flip to that though, scott, and maybe i gary, given the inherent job strength, the fed has wiggle room if it wanted to go ahead and raise rates again in may. what do you think?
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>> i think the fed is watching these job numbers and they continue to be strong. i think the fed has got another quarter point in it, but neil, the 10-year yield is down to 3.4 %, so i think they got room to actually cut. my biggest worry and why i'm weary is what the markets are doing. the three-month treasury bill is at 5%. the inversion is like the worst i've seen pretty much in history , and very often, worry, and i just have to add in the last couple of weeks, the markets went after everything, economically sensitive from caterpillar and deere to so many other stocks in the industrials. i mean, they really crumbled and the best stocks in the market over the last couple of weeks are the food, drug, beverages and utilities the most offensive recession-resistant areas so i'm weary on the economy right here. i'm weary about a peak in the job market and a peak in the
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economy. i hope i am wrong. neil: you know, it's interesting when you look at the breakdown of the report and where the jobs are gaining, no surprise, scott in the latest leisure and hospitality something in gary's neck of the woods he's used to seeing in the orlando area with all of the amusement parks so not a surprise -- >> he's there everyday. neil: would increase over 72000, but that momentum is beginning to slow a little bit, and, you know, a gain is a gain. i grant you but that's been the ring leader and now, it's not as much. what do you make of that? >> it has been the ring leader, neil, in some cases i think a lot stronger of a ring leader, a better ring leader than we expected along the way and we got better data, in leisure and hospitality and spending than we thought. the craziest thing though for me besides gary k going to disney world everyday as he does, i wish i could do frankly. did i just hear him advocate maybe easy money from the federal reserve. fox news alert here.
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it's shocking to think about this , neil, but that's the other point, and gary k is right and if he's on board i'm on board. if there is a slowdown coming, say in housing as you mentioned with the consumer, bank lending, the fed does have some wiggle room. in fact quite a bit here i believe, to start cutting or start getting easy again, which probably does support market prices here at least to go, to be steady, but possibly to go up in the future because the market as we all know loves free and easy money from the fed and/or the treasury. neil: you know, and gary, you always get sick of this but i do mention where you are in orlando but that is sort of like the microcosm of this , you know , hospitality and leisure juggernaut and i'm wondering what you're seeing there, because i've always argued, you know, when you look at the economy and the aggregate, we've got plenty of problems, the banking don't get me started and we're not maybe over that, but the one thing you'd always go back on is job gains that we didn't see during the carter period, with stagflation and all
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of the rest, and we still see people freely spending on those very pricey disney tickets and universal tickets and packed restaurants you've alluded to. is the consumer going to remain that resilient? what do you see happening? >> well, it better. the consumer is about 70% of the economy and as i said to you , neil, the two things that are sticking out for me is savings rates are plunging and credit card usage is skyrocketing. i don't know how long that can last. now, if you use central florida as an example it's still going great guns. i fly every week and all i can tell you is the adults, we are mouse ears going in and out and i can tell you this weekend, disney world, you can't get in unless your last name is cavuto. it is sold out. so, businesses very good. business is very brisk here. 75 million people show up every year, 75 billion into the economy, so that's going great guns, but to me, i just
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watched the job market. i watched the consumer. if we lose that, i think we have a fragile debt laden economy. let's hope they continue to spend like crazy. neil: we just don't know. i do know that as soon you mentioned my name though, goofy popped up in the video there. i don't know whether that was deliberate by my tech staff. gentlemen, hope you have a wonderful peaceful weekend. great seeing you again. >> you too, neil, thank you. neil: all right meanwhile, there is this issue with taiwan. that's always a wildcard, of course china's not been too keen on the taiwan president meeting with kevin mccarthy and other dignitaries in the united states you heard about the three ships that they sent to surround essentially taiwan and send a message. we mean business, and now, going after us with sanctions against the reagan library among others. we've got aishah hasnie in taiwan with more. aishah, what's going on here?
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reporter: hey there, good to see , neil. everyday it's something new from china. we expected some actions or response to that big meeting between house speaker kevin mccarthy and president in california this week, and ever since then, every single day we've seen something from chaina now we've got these sanctions on the people and places that help put this meeting together, so let's take a look at the list that the people or excuse me that the ccp has now sanctioned the hudson institute at the top of that list, ronald regan presidential library of course, that was the venue for this meeting, and the four leaders of these two locations, so what this means is that they can no longer engage in any activities with the communist party. now, china is claiming that these places and people provided a "platform and convenience" to taiwan, separate activities and now tensions have been ramping up this week. even moreso when this bipartisan
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delegation touched down in taipe i for this three-day visit focused on deterrence. it's being led by house foreign affairs chairman michael mccaul who actually just told me in an exclusive interview that authorizing war powers, neil, sending american troops, is not out of the question. >> so you're saying that the option to authorize war powers is on the table? >> if communist china invaded taiwan, it would certainly be on the table and something that be discussed by congress and with the american people. are they prepared to do this? is taiwan worth it? i can argue for a lot of reasons why it is. reporter: and here is the thing, neil. things are just getting started because this delegation, this very delegation, is expected to meet with president zi in person in taiwan , as soon as she returns home, and we will wait and see what china does next.
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neil? neil: all right, thanks, aishah, for that. want to go to nebraska congressman adrian smith, among the bipartisan group that was getting a feel of what was going on and what china, taiwan, the whole situation, where it was going. congressman, what did you learn? >> well, thank you, neil, for having me. i think we've learned and we've shown that this is a bipartisan concern. i think the reagan library was a great venue to convey the message of our support for taiwan, because i think so many of the american people support taiwan and certainly the freedom upon which they conduct themselves and certainly their citizens are appreciative of that as well. neil: there were three navy ships from china, you know, circling or trying to circle taiwan, and i'm just wondering, if they took greater action, or attacked taiwan, in one way,
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shape, or form, or attacked i taiwanese vessel, what do you think our response should be? >> well, i think, you know, there are hypothetical scenarios there i don't want to venture into too far but i think it's wise for us to keep our options open and make sure that we can be prepared and preparedness is huge, especially these days with our military. we want to make sure that we have our options open, so that our needs are met, ultimately america is defended and kept safe. neil: you know, the reason why i mentioned there had been some criticism among even some of your colleagues, congressman, about taiwan doing more to boost its own defenses, and put more money toward defense. i believe they are well under the 2% minimum that we had thought be a good idea. what do you think of that? >> i think that's reasonable. i'd like to see taiwan to open up to more of our products,
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especially our agriculture products. that could strengthen our relationship as well, so i think it's not just about their request for various resources from us. i think it's very reasonable to expect them to do what they need to do in terms of preparation as well, to defend themselves. ultimately to defend themselves is very key. neil: now i'd like to go go to you've been very critical of this plan now, the irs is detailing how it's going to go about spending the $80 billion hiring more agents, i believe 7,000 more immediately, many more to staff phones and the like on customer service, but you have your doubts. explain. >> well, the new report that was released talked about so-called enforcement twice as often as customer service. i think the very basic, the very first step that the irs needs to take is improved customer
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service, so that when taxpayers have questions, those questions are answered. i think legislatively let's always look for more ways to simplify the tax code but meanwhile, you don't replace 12,000 retirees from the last 10 years, the last decade, with 87,000 new irs workers. i think that's unreasonable. it's not necessary, and we see the numbers remain the same, that 90% of the audits that will take place will be of those folks, those families and small businesses, making less than $400,000 a year. neil: yeah, they say just the opposite. i'm sure you're not surprised by that and they spell it out that most of that money is going to be the target, wealthy individuals and some big corporations, you don't buy that >> well i don't buy that because they have repeatedly, and with emphasis, say that they're carrying forward with the same historic rate of audits and that historic rate is 90% of
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those audits are those on folks, families, and small businesses making less than $400,000 a year neil: so when they come back and say that might be the way it all breaks down, because there are more in that figure, but they aren't going to increase audits on that 400,000 and you just say what? they are playing with the number s? >> well, they are going to increase audits. they have been clear about that. they are saying that audits are mostly on just the wealthier folks. the president's own $400,000 threshold is the number he's chosen, but when you look at the proportion and the secretary yellen said this in-committee, and again in the document, the report that was made, that historic rates of audits will remain, and that's 90% of those audits will be on families and small businesses making less than $400,000 a year. neil: the budget is done. they say the money is already
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being spent. are you leading an effort, i know some of your colleagues are going to claw that money back. >> i think we really need to. the 87,000 agents they've not made good on that yet, thank goodness. of course with the labor shortage that our economy is feeling i don't know where they get the job applicants, and that concerns me as well, but the fact of the matter is, i think we can clawback some of those resources and use those dollars in other areas especially to balance the budget neil: congressman smith, very good having you, sir, appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. neil: all right, in the meantime here, arkansas becoming the latest state right now with a warning for kids. if you want to use social media or any of that fancy schmancy social stuff they like to do you gotta ask mom and dad. how do you think that's going over? after this. ♪
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the leading currency in the world, the most used and largest reference point for a lot of countries, even countries that can't stand it, like north korea, the dollar is the currency in which almost all transactions are ultimately based, but they want to change that right now. there's a move afoot to find an alternative currency or currencies, some are looking at a basket of currencies that would rival the dollar. the fact that it's all happening simultaneously has the federal reserve maybe looking at a digital currency, maybe not to combat this exclusively, but to get ready for whatever is going to happen in the future. grady trimble in washington on that. hey, grady. reporter: hey, neil. the federal reserve has been testing this concept for some time now, and now, it's getting ready to launch the central bank digital currency or cbdc in july. so think of this as a way for banks to send digital dollars to each other almost instantly, within seconds they would receive the money. at least that's how it would start, but the fed is also
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looking into a cbdc for consumers to transfer money, pay bills, in realtime and at a lower cost. that's giving pause to some lawmakers though, like senator ted cruz. he says that if a cbdc for consumers is established the government could surveil americans transactions and that's why he's proposing a ban on such a digital dollar. senator cynthia loomis is known as the crypto queen because she wants to regulate other cryptocurrencies. she told us she has the same fear. >> and most americans don't want their everyday expenditures exposed to u.s. treasury department scrutiny, not because they've got something to hide, but they just don't have things to share as independent liberty- loving americans. reporter: this is also a concern at the state level. some gop governors want to out
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law a consumer cbdc too. >> who knows whether they would let you buy a firearm or things that they disapprove of, and so you're opening up a major can of worms and you're handing a central bank huge, huge amounts of power, and they will use that power. reporter: it's interesting what we're seeing here, neil, because the reason bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies got so popular is because they're not backed by any government or central bank but now because crypto is so popular, the central bank, the fed, wants in. neil? neil: got it. grady, thank you for that. all right, i want to go to tyler desa, arkansas state senate republican, leading an effort there with all of this worry over kids and social media and who has access to what , to first checking in with mom and dad. now there's a concept, seeing if it's okay with them and if it is let the parents decide and move on, but not until they do. he joins us right now. very good to have you, senator.
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what kind of progress are you making? >> thank you, neil. it's an honor to be here and it's an honor to talk about this issue. i could tell you that the ability to be able to represent the great people across the state and serve alongside of a great governor who are relying on this initiative. i tell you, we're making great progress and we are aligned on the mission to empower parents and protect children and that's what this bill does. this is a social media safety act. it requires age verification and parental consent for minors to create a social media profile. neil: what's considered a minor? under 18? >> yes, sir. under 18. i'll tell you the heart behind this , first off i'm a father with three young kids, and i've seen the damaging ramification that social media has created. we can no longer trust big tech to be careful enough with our kids. we're seeing statistics today
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where one-third of all sexual crimes initiated online are stem ming from a social media interaction. in my hometown, i've talked to the police chief and the police departments where they're seeing multiple cases of children being extorted, nudity being passed on by predators, and all this bill does is try to create a conversation where parents are involved with their kids online activity. thankfully, praise the lord, this passed the house and senate and it's sent back to our governor to be signed later next week. neil: so if the kids are finding a way, as a lot of kids can around such restrictions, then what do you do? >> sure. you know, with any policies, there's always going to be things that we're going to work out as they move forward. i'm confident that we are going to protect the majority of kids online through this. are we going to be perfect? absolutely not. there's going to be ways around
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it. there's going to be abilities to get around all laws. i put into this when i spoke on the senate floor. you know, there are going to be people who speed. does that mean we don't have speed limits? no. we still do what's right. we still protect people, and that's what this does. one other statistic through research has said 82% of children online said that they would change their behavior, change their online activity if they knew their parents were involved. if they knew their parents knew what they were doing online, and we get to know that parents need to be empowered. that's what we're doing. we are finding solutions to make sure that our parents are involved and knowing that there should be a conversation with their youth. neil: all right, sounds very intriguing, senator if you can keep us posted on this progress, i know you're hoping to lead the way so we would love to hear back. in the meantime have a safe weekend and certainly a wonderful easter. in the meantime, here, want to draw your attention to all of the money that donald trump has been raising since his indictment came down. in case you're counting it's
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the former clinton advisor, stag well ceo, good read of all things politics and the numbers behind them. mark good to have you. >> thank you. neil: let's first of all get into what's behind this money rush to donald trump. i mean, obviously, it's one thing from the basing this is a little too extreme and we're here to support you and show it by giving more to you, but a lot of it must be propelled by even the number of democrats, maybe not necessarily giving to the former president, but criticizing the prosecutor for maybe a case of over reach. what do you think? >> i wouldn't count on a lot of democrats being among the contributions, because actually, the overwhelming majority of democrats support the indictment even if they think he's going to be acquitted and even if they think it's an unjust indictment, because of the erosion over politics but i do think there's a rush of money here because he's under attack. people think he could use it to
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defend himself and because they think it's wrong that this indictment is occurring in the first place. neil: yeah, i mean, i understand that and i've seen that as well 16 plus percent who are under the idea this is fine but when you get into what has been raised on the part of alvin bragg and this case as i said the new york times editorial that tears it apart a little bit , others watching the post have been saying similar things. not across-the-board even though i think they welcome anything that will make donald trump the nominee, because he's deemed to be the candidate assuming joe biden could beat. do you agree with that? >> no. i don't agree with that. i think that it's a dangerous game when you say that donald trump is the one who could be beaten when he has a history of defying the odds. i think of anything, my most recent poll showed donald trump beating joe biden by three or four points in a next general
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election and that was, i think, just either before or around the time of the indictment so i think that that's a big mistake. i think that there are a lot of democrats that just want to somehow get donald trump and some think he should be the nominee but by and large he could be a very strong nominee but the country won't benefit from a trump-biden choice in my view. neil: you know, the backdrop for this just today, a jobs report that shows steady job growth, better than a million in the first three months of the year, the administrations constantly been going back to that. it's a good economy, we're nowhere near a recession, but he gets little polling reward for that, even if that were the case. what do you think of that? >> well, two-thirds of the people think the countries in the wrong direction and about the same number think the economy is in the wrong direction, because inflation is really something that affected everybody. it was not something that people
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had really felt for 30 or 40 years, i would sake like if you weren't 60 you didn't know what it was about and fundamentally, people think that the runway spending and the inflation is what's eating at them in terms of their economic well being and that's why even a good jobs report doesn't seem to make a real difference. neil: we'll watch closely, mark, good seeing you again, mark penn , a key clinton advisor representing someone whose not given a chance and of course, history had a way of confusing people there, and surprising them. so we'll see what's going on here. meanwhile when ken fisher was talking about the economy not nearly so recessionary looking to him, many laughed. then of course the string of data we've been receiving that seems to confirm pretty much everything he said. he's next. ♪ oh, i want to dance with somebody, i want to feel the heat with somebody ♪
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and i remember kind of thinking like, "oh my gosh, i think we could be sisters." because i think we looked... yes. right. yeah. and i don't think at that time- i think you're the one to tell me that we had the same birthday. yes. it's really unbelievable when you think about it, because it's been, like, really over 20 years that you were my mother and father's banker, you became my banker and now fran is in her third year of college and you're her banker. it's so unbelievable because i'm just 20 years old. [laughing]
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neil: all right everyone has been arguing for quite some time that if we're not in a recession we're certainly heading to one but again the jobs backdrop has always sort of been that fly in that ointment that it's automatic. 236,000 more jobs added to the economy in the latest month, better than a million now on the year. the unemployment rate at 3.5%, but people like ken fish fisher are pretty good investor in his own right look at more than just jobs. he's been here many times of late talking about the recession he does not see , or the market tanking or bear market that he does not see either. he joins us now. ken, good to have you. >> thanks for having me on this beautiful good friday, neil neil: right here, and right back at you. let me get your take on-the-jobs report first, before we get into the weeds of the economy and the markets in general. what do you think? >> well first, i would never
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put too much emphasis into any one months number for anything, because there's lots of stuff that happens, but i'm glad you asked the question. i studied this one, and in reality, the number is strong, as they have been. maybe not as strong as some people expected, simply because i think some people weren't looking for jobs. i read online which is of course where i get all my information from is that some people are off doing the florida spring break thing and i saw pictures of those people and some seemed like they were stoned out of their minds and had bodies like i had a half century ago. i never really had a body like that but in the corner way up high in one of the picture, neil , i saw just being there, just being there, i saw chauncey gardner, himself, and nobody predicts the economy better than he does, and neil, you know what he would say.
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there will be growth. neil: [laughter] now that was a character who was considered at face value to be ignorant and simplistic, but what he was simply saying, a little different there, but anyway, you have been looking at other data prior and beyond just jobs that didn't seem to you to be screaming recession or dangerous bear market. could you review some of the big things? >> so i'm going to make two points. a, the thing i call abcd, which is a lot of the historical stuff that anybody could do off of a device like this at this point is pre-priced and doesn't apply well in a post-covid world. things have gone a little bit off this way and that way, and you have to look past correlations and look to fundamental causes. loan growth remains stronger than anybody expected, as we
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move through this higher fed- induced short-term interest rate world, and that continues in the post-svb supposed banking crisis. the fact is bank loans, which are double the rate they were last june. i mean, it had been a strong growth market for loans, propels the economy. people don't borrow money. businesses don't borrow money to not spend it, and the growth from there propels. the fact is, people expected uniformly the bears expected loans to plummet in the post-svb environment. the data post-svb does not show that. neil: all right, you're talking about silicon valley bank and when that went under and then signature and then it was concerned about republic. some feared a bank contagion, and still jamie dimon has been saying of late that because of this bank disruption, the odds have climbed. i hope i'm paraphrasing him
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correctly, for a recession. what do you think? >> so what i would say, as i've said about the fed, for example, and i have great respect for jamie dimon, but what i would say is watch what jpmorgan does, not what jamie dimon says, and the fact is loan growth isn't imploding. as long as loan growth isn't imploding we're not going to get to that recession. neil: so, we're not going to get to more bumpy banks? >> oh, let me be clear. you got 4,000 banks. you got foreign banks. there's always some banks that have done stupid stuff. the svb was stupid stuff. signature was stupid stuff. a few stupid stuffs don't make a real banking crisis, and the fear of it is fear of a false factor. fear of a false factors always bullish. the fact is fear of false factor creates the bricks that build the wall of worry that bull markets love to climb and make
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that wall solid and the fact of the matter, we have bull market that started end of september, beginning of october. people believe that interest rates are up. false. the important interest rate is long rates. long rates are down by over half point since then. well over a half point. neil: you're right about that. what does that tell you, by the way? because you're quite right. the 10-year, two-year. they bumped up a little bit today maybe given this jobs report, the bond market or , you know, to play in the stock futures but they did backup a tad but you're right in the case of a 10-year it's a good half point lower than it was a few weeks ago. what is that saying? >> oh, and way lower. i think hugely lower. if you think of a 4% interest rate world once, that has a half a point drop, that's a big drop and when people would tell you, for example, in the banking crisis, when people would tell you oh, but they got all these long term debt obligations, mortgages, and government debt and those high rates, that makes
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the stuff bad. well the fact of the matter is, the actual lower rates makes it not bad. neil: so you could argue as well that the market-rates are kind of doing the job for the fed. would the fed need to be as aggressive or does it enter the equation? i know you aren't a fan of the fed in general but the odds are i was just looking this morning, 60% think we're going to see another quarter point hike in may. are you in that camp? >> you know, when you say i'm not a fan of the fed, neil, you have an understatement. the fact of the matter is -- neil: i'm trying to use language that families can hear. >> i think they can hear chaunc ey gardner, but i don't know. neil: [laughter] >> the fact is that as the fed has raised fed fund rates which
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has raised 90-day t bill rates that has not translated into increased cost for the base upon which banks lend, and as i've said on your show, numbers of times before, as long as that cost for banks deposit-base remains low, and mind you there's some things that have gone on that are worth paying attention to but as long as it remains very very low, this lending isn't going to stop the economy is going to be fine. what the fed does is largely sup erfluous, and might they increase rates this , that, or the other? sure because basically they don't know what they are doing and they react and they don't do very good. they would go better to lesser to chauncey gardner. neil: all he would argue is he just likes to watch. >> i like it. neil: i just like to listen. good seeing you again my friend. have a very, safe, wonderful easter. be good. >> thanks for having me, neil.
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neil: ken fisher, one of the brightest financial minds i've ever known and i've known a few. all right, let's go to another bright financial mind, jackie deangelis to take you to what's coming up on "the big money show." jackie: good afternoon to you, neil. we have kevin o'leary with us this hour at the top of the hour , rather and we are going to talk about the jobs number, the banking crisis, everything rolled in and a digital dollar here in the united states. it may be closer than everybody thinks. plus, we are going to the birth place of peeps. we will see you at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. more "coast to coast" after this ♪ dad, we got this.
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been made of the fact of the two that were african american. didn't end well. there is extreme anger on both sides of this. don't know where it's going. i do know that kamala harris the vice president is going to be meeting with what they are now increasingly calling tennessee three. no doubt alveda king is here and watching all of this as she does a lot of violent events to say " why can't we all just get along " and the niece of course of martin luther king jr. , a fox news contributor just a callming presence. what did you think of this whole tennessee thing? >> well, listen, neil. when i saw it, i think there was actually two democrats that were kicked out by the republicans, maybe, but when we look at it, the big argument was whether that should be gun control or not, whether you should take the guns away or let the people have the guns, and we know in the most recent shooting, at the school, with the little children
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, we have really found out that if you take all of the guns away from people, the good people will give the guns. they want to obey the law. the bad people will keep the gun s and come in and shoot the good people, so i think people forget that, so we've got -- they're acting almost like children, arguing and fighting. there is discordant i'm asking where are the adults? now listen, i'm an elderly woman i'm 72. i've got a mom and an aunt who are in their 90s. we're trying to take care of them. we're dealing with easter. i've got children who are raising children, so here we are in america, with all of these issues and trying to help the children and help the people , and then we have our leaders acting like children. it's a little bit too much, neil it's too much. neil: yeah, you're quite right. this all started, this session started in nashville to find some common ground on how you deal with school violence, and people could have their views on guns and what have you, but that's how it started, but they were talking past each other
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when this erupted with some of these democratic representatives , then turning into a referendum on guns and republicans didn't care and they are child killer, republicans going back at them demanding the decorum that they had no problem or at least as a party being disrupted on january 6, so everyone looked a little hypocritical and everyone looked kind of extreme. >> yes. neil: how do you patch this back together? it is holy week after all. it is good friday. we celebrate obviously the pass over and christians, easter on sunday. how do you cut through all of that? >> now, i'm a christian, resurrection and easter, and so i believe in jesus christ is my lord and saviour. most people except athiest believe there is a big judge in the sky, somewhere our create or whether we are christians or not so when i go to court before the big judge i want the judge to be my father that's why i've accepted jesus. i wanted to clear that up about
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how i feel about easter; however , we are not acting like adults. our leaders are the people that we elect, rioting, fighting, bursting into emotional fits, without any clarity. the children need to be protected. you didn't ask me this , but we also, children need to be protected, period. so we have laws and rules now where we may cutoff our reproductive body parts off of babies and children. all of that is before us, and then we're fighting on the floor of these houses where we elect people to protect this nation, so i'm trying to clawback for some sanity, peace, kindness , some respect maybe. maybe that's too much to ask for , i don't know, but it's time for somebody to be the adult in america, neil. somebody needs to do that. neil: real quickly. i think i've asked you this before, alveda, but i'm always amazed. in your family you have political extremes and differences, yet you all seem to get along, all of you, you love
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them, but i just wonder if you do get together, for an easter dinner, do they put you at the kids table? do they put you at a range a little bit? how is that all handled? >> [laughter] we call some time outs when we get together for these various holidays, we have to have time outs but we are really committed to not fighting with each other, to loving each other and to speak about these issues with some kindness and compassion, because really, the children, the children need to be protected. yeah. neil: you know, you're a good person, alveda and no matter how people feel about politics that comes through loud and clear. i hope you have a blessed easter >> you too, happy easter, thank you. neil: to you as well, alveda king. we'll have more, after this. ♪ ♪
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