larry: all right, my last word's real simple, we have to look into kamala harris once again. she could be commander if in chief. we need to retire joe and kamala, and everybody's got to the watch liz macdonald -- elizabeth: you're the best of the best, larryly. thank you so much. that was a terrific show. really good stuff. okay, at this hour polls show this fight is now backfiring on

president biden. the is debating right now, getting ready to vote on the republican debt ceiling perjury of spending cuts. let's get right to it with jason chaffetz, economic pro carol roth. thanks for joining us. first to you, congressman. democrats manchin, klobuchar saying, bide, you've got to negotiate -- biden, you've got to negotiate. it's not maga to the claw back wasted pandemic spending or bring back spending to just 202 the levelings, jason. >> yeah. and when you hear speaker mccarthy say it's been months since the president would even engage on this issue, joe biden, the entire premise of his presidency was the idea he knew how to bring people together. why not have the discussion? even democrats are critical of biden, because for him to not sit down and talk about this issue is really a bad look. elizabeth: what jason just said, it's a bad look around the globe, carol, because this spending is slamming the dollar around the world, and we've got more nations moving away from

using it. and the polls show voters are really upset this inflationary spending has dropped their standard of living. >> and they should be. i'm going to let you guys in on a secret, i know you're going to be shocked about this, but the debt ceiling isn't working. [laughter] i know this is a shock, but obviously it has not kept us from spending more. we have $31 and almost a half trillion in debt. they have modified the debt ceiling almost a hundred times, so hay needed to do something else. and this is an actual attempt to try to get spending under control which we need both here e in the united states for that cost of living and, as you said, liz, for what's happening on the international stage. if we don't get that under control, it will mean an even worse standard of living back here in the united states. elizabeth: yeah, that's right. china's moving pretty rapidly around the world to get the yuan, but the u.s. has a transparent market, that's e what supports the dollar. jaceen, republicans targeting three dozen vulnerable house

democrats. they could lose their seats. they're saying biden ooh's trying to deal. president biden held a rare press conference today, he called on scripted list of reporters. new york times says he's at the bottom, ranked near the bottom of the lows with press conference, jason. >> yeah. communication, the spoken word should be a core competency for a president, but it's really not. he doesn't like speaking, he almost never answers questions. the number of press conferences, his availability to the american people and the american press is an embarrassment. and usually when he goes to the microphone, it's, you know, an amazing moment because he's spitting out a word salad or something that makes no sense whatsoever. and kamala harris, by the way, she ain't much better at this. elizabeth: yeah. so the white house is doing that, they're also railroading, railroading america, they're railroading things through like making energy costs more expensive, you know? they're making mortgages more expense i have for good credit borrowers to subsidize those

with bad credit, they're weakening the border all without congress, carol. >> yeah. and the scary thing is not only is it without congress, but we don't actually know who's in charge because, to jason's point, you know, listening to the president it's pretty clear that he's not the one making these decisions. we know that kamala harris is not likely making these decisions. he's had so much turnover if you think about crane and d.c. and now rice, who are the people who are making these decisions that he's the front person for, because we don't even know who to negotiate with to get back our country. elizabeth: you know, let's watch what happened today. first you're going to the see the president look down at a pre-approved list of reporters and who to call on. you're going to see wonners about the supply chain, his -- whoppers about the supply chain, his age and more. >> now we're going to the take some questions. all of a sudden everybody started to learn the phrase supply chain. a year ago no one knew what the hell anybody was talking about.

with regard to age, i can't even say -- i guess how old i am, i can't even say the number. that doesn't register with me. it's generated significant economic growth many america. and, by the way, it's creating jobs in, in south korea. it's creating jobs many in south korea -- in south korea and, you know, the idea that i have is absolute authority as commander in chief and the sole authority to use a nuclear weapon. elizabeth: so he's talking about nuclear weapons, carol. in this goes on like this, trump is going to tear into him. he's already out with a video warning about the possible consequences of a second biden term. china's going to invade taiwan, more bank failures, bad border collapses and crime, carol. >> yeah. he's a threat to our economic security, he's a threat to our national security. you know, it's no surprise that the things that didn't happen urn trump are now happening -- under trump are now happening under biden. this is the biggest gift that we could give the international

community and folks like russia and they that who would be so happy to supplant the u.s. and, you know, in terms of our economic and our military superpower. when with you have this guy as the guy in charge, it makes us look weak. and the reality is we are weak. elizabeth: what carol just said, jason, biden's now got a terrible track record to defend. he didn't have that in 2020 the. he has a track record. his approval rating, jason, is trending below 40% where incumbents lose. i mean, new cbs poll, less than a quarter, 22 of democrats, only 22% of democrats are excited about biden running again. more than twice that say he should not run. >> yeah. one of the big things that he said at the press conference which is absolutely not even close e to the truth is he said his approval numbers are similar to past presidents. nobody has been as low as joe. i mean, that's just never happened. for him to go to the microphone, for instance, and say nobody was

talking about supply chain, nobody even knew what it was, what an affront -- every single business i've ever interacted with knows exactly what a supply chain is and how pivotal and importants. and for joe biden to think that he can go through this process with no debates also speaks to the idea he can't defend his record, and he can't even articulate what he has done. elizabeth: what jason just said, final word, carol. biden's now deploying a dozen democrat governors to do his campaigning for him. his launch video claimed democracy was under attack, virtually said nothing about how americans feel their wallets and kitchen tables are under attack from his record inflation fueled by his government overspending. >> yeah. i think jason just gave the president a new nickname, low joe, that reflects his poll numbers. but the reality is they have not been investing in america, they have been fleecing the middle class. and 81 million people voted for this, liz. i hope that they're looking and paying attention when they go to the grocery store, looking at

the register, looking in their bank accounts and saying we cannot afford four more years of this. elizabeth: you know, i'm telling you if trump comes out and sets this race on his terms, if he hammers it it is and sets the narrative and sets the terms of the debate, he's going to win. that's what's going to the happen, you know? americans see that this president has been gaslighting them, railroading them and misleading them for two years. jason chaffetz, carol roth, thank you so much for joining us. we've got this hot story, a news update, teachers union chief randy weingarten faced a losses file -- hostile congress. triggered a mental health crisis for children. lydia hu is live9 with the story. lydia. >> reporter: hi there, liz. yeah, it was a confrontation aal hearing this afternoon that is still going on now after it got started close to 2:20 the this this afternoon. weingarten tried to convince gop lawmakers that the union was

committed to trying to reopen schools. meanwhile, the gop lawmakers were trying to get a better -- more insight into the union's relationship with the biden administration. weingarten at one point claiming it was the biden transition team that first reached out to the union. watch this. >> when was the first time you engaged with cdc in any way, shape or form directly? >> the first time? >> yes. >> was when they asked us to do the zoom -- i think the first time -- look, i'm 65 years old, i don't remember everything anymore, i'm sorry. >> me too. >> reporter: liz, there was also point questioning around the cdc's adoption of revisions to the school reopening policy that was suggested by the union. >> what happened was there was one particular edit that they accepted. there were several different ideas that we proposed. >> now you've answered my

question, thank you. >> sorry, i'm just slow. >> reporter: and representative ronnie jackson of texas pointed out that not only did cuds suffer from school closures, liz, but taxpayers footed the bill for the closures when congressional located $190 billion to rope schools. reopen schools. >> keep the schools closed, let people stay home and draw paychecks, demand money from the biden administration to reopen schools, use that money to promote horrible social programs in our schools once they finally reopened. provide pay increases to your members with federal taxpayer money and, lastly, use the dues from your members to pay off the democrats that make it all possible. >> reporter: and the democrats in this harding, liz, pointed -- can hearing, liz, pointed the finger not at randi weingarten, but instead at former president trump. they blamed him for a lack of what they said was correction that led e to a fail failure -- direction that that led e to a failure to reopen the schools.

>> thank you, lydia hu. nicole neily is back with us along with a virginia dad, he's terry schilling. terry pulled all of his six children out of public school many in virginia. first to you, nicole. what's your reaction to weingarten's testimony today? she's not apologizing for school shutdowns. >> i mean, my reaction is that we should call nina jack visits. she accepted no responsibility, trying to pretend she cares about children, a lot of virtue signaling. we know the role that she played, that she worked hand in glove to keep schools closed while they shook down the taxpayers for billions of collars. inexcusable. elizabeth: what do you think, terry? >> look, the men federation of teachers spends over $200 million a year on public relations campaigns and government lobbying, and it's absolutely disgusting. parents can't compete with that. we really need to come in and do some union reform.

this american federation of teachers represents half of all education bureaucrats in this country. it's disjust gusting, and parents are at a big disadvantage in fighting back. elizabeth: so what terry just said, nicole, reports coming in the teachers' union chief was accused of working to change the language on the cdc's school reopening guidance, keeping schools shut. that expert, you know, experts are saying that the science never justified that. at the same time, they're pocketing tons of money, and schools are getting tons of u.s. taxpayer money, nicole. >> well, we were told that absolutely we have to pass these rescue plans because that was going to keep schools, that was going to get schools open. it was going to be used for air purifiers, masks, sanitation. most of the money has not been spent, and it's actually gone to democrat pet projects. social-emotional learning, critical race theory, dei initiatives. so at the end of the day, this was just a shakedown, and it's despicable. as we know, inflation's at a

record high, so this hurt our children and continues to hurt taxpayers. elizabeth: terry, loudoun county public if schools in virginia now plans to spend $11 million in taxpayer money to build new gender-neutral bathrooms in two high schools next fall. why do they continue to treat students and children as the unconsenting thought experiment subjects, you know, of their untested policies? why are girls supposed to silence their discomfort and share spaces with boys who could be older with them in the bathroom? that's unsafe. have they shown any research on this? what are the data points showing that this is good for childrensome that what's their proof to do this? >> well, liz, i think by this time we should all know that this is not about educating our kids, this is about indoctrinating them, it's about creating little, mini revolutionaries. i pulled my kids out of fairfax county schools, 32% of kids can read at grade level. they're spending $19,000 per pupil here.

this is disgusting. in the 1960s, liz, we had an education system that put men on the moon, now we don't even have kids that can spell mississippi without googling it. it's a travel is city. they're more -- travesty. they're more intent on pushing wokism. elizabeth: terry, have they shown any evidentiary proof, any research showing that this is good for schoolgirls, to share bathrooms with boys older than them? >> no. and we don't need the research to do that. we already have the criminal case in loudoun county alone are. i'm so shocked. but then again i'm not because of with how e evil and corrupt these people are. there was a girl that was raped last year by one guy, and they moved him to the another school and he raped another girl. this is out of control, and these a idealogues are covering it all up. people need to go to jail, liz are. this is causing so much damage, and our kids aren't learning. there's no benefit to any of this garbage. elizabeth: yeah, these people

should be fired there these school boards. it's still going on. nicole, what do you think? school shutdowns that the teachers' union chief did advocate even though she said later on she was against them. the shutdowns have been blaine blamed for a lot of these crazy policies, and now you've got more than two dozen states eliminating the perjury powers of governments and elected officials in pandemic. what do you think about what forly was just talking about -- terry was just talking about? >> the same people with who brought us the mental health crisis in our schools are now saying give us more money, and we'll fix it. i'm sorry, no. the department of education has said to implement their forthcoming title ix sports rule which would force all the schools across the country to integrate their bathrooms and locker rooms, the department of education said it only cost $34 million total over enthe years. that's impossible. we are being gaslit. they are lying to us, and we must protect our children. elizabeth: nicole neily, terry schilling, thanks for coming on tonight.

we're staying on the house debt ceiling vote happening, really coming in. the debate is really fiery. it's coming in now. also disney sues florida governor ron desantis. this is an escalating feud now hitting the 2024 the race, and we've got house oversight chair james comer, he's going to give us the update on the growing investigation into the biden family corrupt scandal, cashing in on the government job for the president selling influence around the world. and it's getting even worse for bud light after transgender ad, we've got the update. plus, more dr. fauci flip-flops as he speaks to the new york times, and the biden white house gives hundreds of millions of dollars to nancy pelosi's district in san francisco, and congress commands answers from energy secretary jennifer granholm on why she had to that take four flights to puerto rico in just five months. okay, we've got james comer coming up, former anheuser-busch anson freres ricks, dr. marty

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elizabeth: back with us now from real clear politics, white house reporter phil wegmann. phil, gop lawmakers are saying

why did the biden white house spend more than $365 million in taxpayer dollars to nancy pelosi's district of san francisco for parks? it's like a quarter with of the entire spending for all u.s. national parks. i mean, the interior -- excuse me, the national park service saying the interior department ordered him to transfer $200 million of that for the presidio and that this violated agency norms. >> yeah. and these numbers are staggering. it's difficult to give representative pelosi the benefit of the doubt when you're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars here for her district at the expense of others. i actually looked back at the press release that her office put out praising this funding and touting the inflation reduction act that it was part of and noting that republicans didn't vote for it. but what i'm curious about and what i think will be a very fascinating epilogue to her time in washington, d.c. is whether or not a lot of the biographers, for instance, those at time magazine or "usa today" who

wrote biographies of the former speaker,they follow up on repors report or if they give her a free pass and thank her for her service in op -- and opposition to the former president. this is certainly one of the most powerful politicians in our lifetimes, and i think there's need for much more scrutiny. elizabeth: yeah. and there's been talk about her husband doing stock trades with an inside seat with what's going on with legislation. it's about corruption, it's about being watchdogs. we don't even know half of what is going on, but it just feels like we're at a debt ceiling fight talking about spending cuts with this -- when this inflationary, wasteful spending is flying out the door, and now we've got the house energy committee demanding energy secretary granholm demanding documents, why did she have to fly four times in five months to puerto rico? >> yeah, on its face ostensibly there are very important reasons for her to travel to puerto

rico. those americans there are often underserved, and they have had trouble keeping their electrical grid up with a lot of the storms that have pass through the region. but house republicans are going to wonder why did you have to travel four times to a vacation destination? why couldn't you puck up the phone or even zoom? why was this so important and especially after what we saw from transportation secretary pete buttigieg and the controversy over his travel. house republicans are not going to look the other way when it comes to this potential controversy. elizabeth: yeah. the transportation inspector general is auditing secretary buttigieg's extensive use of private jets. he's taken at least 18 flights since 2021. so that's -- on basically taxpayer-funded jets. we also have this new republican bill introduced last month led by congresswoman monica de la cruz, she's saying homeland security secretary mayorkas is also making a lot of use of private jets, that he should fly

commercial and cocoach until he comes up with a pan plan to fully secure the border. it's called mayorkas must fly coach until we secure the border act. what's with all these federal officials flying on private planes or jets? >> certainly the biden administration isn't first white house that has dealt with these sort of makes, but this is the sort of thing that erodes trust this institutions. if you have to hop on a private plane or a government jet to go meet a crisis in the middle of the night, i don't think any citizen anywhere is going to think twice about that. but if you have example after example, you know, with the former -- or, excuse me, with the transportation secretary, for instance, traveling private, i think that i frustrates people. and with regards to the dhs secretary the, i think a lot of constituents out there are going to say, wait a minute, it doesn't seem to me that you are meeting the chief obligation of your job. why is it that you get such a fancy perk?

elizabeth: got it. phil wegmann, it's good to see you. >> thank you. elizabeth: this story's coming in to the studio. s it is getting worse for bud light. sales are still falling after its transgender ad controversy. that boycott is really brighting and biting -- biting and biting hard. and dr. marty makary, we have even more dr. fauci flip-flops on shutdowns and vaccine mandates that he backed as he's talking to the new york times. edit." ♪usto ♪ we tried electric unicycles. i think i've got it! doggy-paddle! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ when the davises booked their vrbo vacation home, they didn't know about this view. or the 200-year-old tree in the backyard. or their neighbors down the hill. but one thing they did know is exactly how much they'd pay. because vrbo is different.

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liz: back with us now, dr. marty makary. good to see you. dr. fauci tells "the new york times" he never shut down anything. he claims the cdc did. public officials should have listed to other advisors, made better decisions when he said shut down? >> he is changing his tune a lot. he specifically said it would not be prudent to bring kids back to school and he said that in areas where there is a low level of transmission they should be going hybrid.

he was very critical of desantis reopening schools. acknowledged he was consulted in the new york and california systems when he told, in the case of california you really don't have a choice in shutting down the schools. he is rewriting history right now. liz: you can't brief what he says either. here is a montage of dr. fauci saying do shutdowns, watch. >> it was perssonification of me as a person who essentially closed everything down, those were public health recommendations that came from the cdc. i recommended to the president that we shut the country down. the only way to do that is by draconian means of essentially shutting down a country. we know that we can do that, if we shut down. well if i knew at the time that shutting down would have such a dramatic effect on controlling the spread obviously, we would have shut down earlier. >> didn't have an effect on the

spread. he is basically really flip-flopping hard here, dr. marty makary. he is more and more showing like, why he was exactly the wrong person at the wrong time for this nation in that job. >> when you're making those comments accepting the title the media granted to him, the nation's top infectious diseases doctor, and you're watching these draconian shut down of schools. by the way public schools, private schools, many were open. you don't do a randomized trial, you don't do any clinical trials, don't look at data on masks, schools being open, ignore the european experience. we had basically a scientific trial in the united states with public and private schools, one open, one closed. there were no differences in the hospitalizations. they ignored the european data. that was his responsibility to look at that data, to fund the research and they didn't. liz: he denounceed the great barrington declaration don't do

shutdowns. they said protect the vulnerable. he called that dangerous and nonsense of the senator rand paul's wife, dr. faucci's clashed with senator rand paul many times over pandemic mandates, gain of function research. rand paul's wife took to twitter to slam fauci's flip-flops but mainstream media is attacking rand paul. >> if you look at some of the statements dr. fauci has made, they are so outrageous. he was telling teachers in the summer of 2020 to wear gloves and goggles whenever they can, on top of wearing almost full ppe. yet all of that gets ignored. he rewrites history. people selectively in the media cover whatever sound bites they like. what you have a guy who misled us throughout the entire pandemic being praised as a hero. he will be giving a lecture at hopkins. not his first. him and wollensky have been

paraded around as public health heroes, everyone who was right all along is are not being invited to the the am deck i am. liz: cornell university found vaccine mandates eroded public confidence in mandates further. why is there more open debate about this? why are we supposed to follow a person like dr. fauci who consistently and flip-flopped the misled the american people? >> that is culture, we follow a leader and all other opinions should be shut down. unfortunately that is the debate. you could discover the husks in nuclear physics if you're not of the right political party it doesn't matter. we're only hearing from one standpoint of view, that is the medical establishment. by the way most of the country moved on from covid but novak

djokovic was denied entry into the united states under the old dogma vaccines prevent transmission. when will they acknowledge the new data around for two years? liz: dr. faucci tells "the new york times," mandates. well my positions had to evolve he says? >> his positions did not evolve after the date were abundantly clear. we still have mandates in place today. propagated misinformation long after the data were clear on school closures, on masks, on myocarditis, natural immunity. they never talked about it. many people who already had immunity had their lives ruined because they refused to get a booster. liz: dr. makary, thanks for joining us good to see you. house oversight chair james comer is giving us an update on the investigation into the biden family cashing in overseas on

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liz: let's welcome to the show former anheuser-busch president, anson freichs. good to see you. >> good to see you as well. liz: what do you make of the bud light controversy over the transgender ad? we have new analysis of 3,000 bars and restaurants nationwide a 6% drop in serving bud light through the second week of ape? overall sales are down a stunning seven teen peers. coarse, 17%.

cars and miller lite are picking up 16% in sales. anheuser-busch said in interview to fail fast, fail cheaply. they have not failed fast nor failed cheaply. we're a month into the controversy, the reason we're talking about anheuser-busch has not been clear what bud light stands for. traditionally it was apolitical brand that did not get into politics. if they come out earlier they would be out of that. they have not fell cheaply. sales are down double digit is when the main competitors coors and miller lite are up double digits. liz: how did a national brand get snowed that this would be a good idea to do? people don't want politics dripping a beer. former, present female gop governors launching their own real women coozies for beer drinkers. sarah sanders, kim ivy, kristi noem and kim reynolds.

>> anheuser-busch has forgotten who it is accountable to. they are accountable to the shareholders. they are firefighters, police officers, doctors, who own 401(k)s through their pension plans. they're not accountability to stake holders like blackrock, van gerald. they push stakeholder capitalism, instead of be beholden to shareholders but stakeholders. anheuser-busch is in the stakeholder model got them into the situation. liz: here is the thing, why do we always have to cater to the loudest voice in the room when they're often, many times wrong and have no common sense often times? >> we shouldn't. we should cater to the customer, what the customer wants. that is what actually drives shareholder customer. the bud light customer, what do they want? they want sports. they want america. they want backyard football. that ask what they want. that is what the bud light

customer wants, they don't want politics. governors putting brands on coozies, that might work for them on their brand exact same way anheuser-busch wouldn't put joe biden on a can, shouldn't put republican governors on cans either even though i understand why the folks are doing what they're doing. liz: anson, if you were still at anheuser-busch, what would you have seen going on with the decision making to go this route with this transgender ad? >> you know, unfortunately the company seems to be paralyzed right now. again, they're paralyzed because they have adopted the stakeholder capitalism model. unfortunately they have a good opportunity we'll be accountable to shareholders going forward. people are counting on them to do that. 500 family-owned businesses across the country distribute anheuser-busch products. 1500 independent employees at wholesalers. they're counting we made a mistake, bud light, make sure it is apolitical brand of the get back to doing things like having clydesdales, going back to small

cities and towns across the country where i have seen tens of thousands of people come out, proud to see the clydesdales, anheiser busch. people democrats, republicans, black, white, gay, straight. that is what they need to do. we shouldn't be political. we need once again to folks selling great product that brings people together, not divides people. liz: brands are taking hits here. is it enough that two executives who oversaw this ad, terp put on leave voluntarily and do they think ad with a horse fixes the problem? >> i don't think the ad featuring a horse fixes the problem. that is why anheuser-busch has to be more clear what they're doing moving forward. they issued two statements which neither clarified the current situation they're in, more importantly what they will do about it moving forward. i don't think putting out an ad trying to have patriotism with a horse running through fields across the america is going to solve the situation.

they need to more clear, more direct, brands like bud light won't get into politics that will allow them to move beyond the situation. >> we've got nike and dick's sporting goods, they're trying to rebound, rebounded back after their stances they have taken in the past. we'll see what happens. anson, thanks for joining us. good to see you. >> thank you so much. liz: our "hot take" is coming up. also congressman james comer, he has pulled away on the debt ceiling vote. they're voting to end the debate on that, so they can proceed with the next round of votes. now we got the "new york post" jon left seen. investigation of the biden family cashing in overseas on the president's government job is heating up. "evening edit" takes it on next. sam who make...? ...everyday products... ...designed smarter. like a smart coffee grinder - that orders fresh beans for you. oh, genius! for more breakthroughs like that... ...i need a breakthrough card... like ours! with 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more...

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liz: okay, house oversight chair james comer he has been pulled away to the house gop debt limit vote. they're voting to end the debate to proceed further down the road on this package of spending cuts and more. joining us "new york post" columnist jon levine. jon, hunter biden's lawyers reportedly met with the justice department today over the doj criminal probe into his tax evasion case and more. so, now we've got potentially a dozen biden family members profited off of the president's government job overseas? how can the president hit the campaign trail with this over

him, with the allegations of corruption. >> going to be a very significant albatross and now we know president biden is running again you can expect to see hunter biden coming up pretty much every other second out of donald trump's mouth. you will recall when this was a campaign issue in 2020 joe biden said this is russian disinformation. former intelligence officials said this is non-issue, nothing to see here, folks. well there is something to see here. i have a hard time thinking donald trump will let this go by. i think hunter and joe, what their business relationship was, how it relates to taxes, foreign oligarchs and meeting business partners in the white house, this will all get litigated in the 2024 race. it will hit everyone like a ton of bricks. liz: jon, trump could easily say this is not putting america first, this is putting the biden family first. there will be questions who paid them money and how much. a lot of voters will say this is what our women and men fought for and fought and died for on the battlefield so the biden

family can make money off the president's jobs in the government? >> now you have james comer, i wish he was here, i wishing he revealed the name of other bidens in the bank records, in addition to hunter biden, joe biden, hallie biden, six more bidens benefited from overseas dealings. we don't know if joe biden is in that group. it is like a clown car of bidens. one after another pops up. it seems to be a family industry. they didn't sell, they didn't make anything. bidens don't produce anything. liz: what was hallie biden making? what was she selling -- >> million dollars from a chinese company? what product is being produced here? the only thing possibly be worth that is access to joe. liz: the question did the president get money? this china cefc deal with the energy conglomerate over there, joe and tony bobulinski's text messages, big guy slated to get the 10% cut.

do you believe the president somehow did get money? >> that is a open question. obviously what you alluded to is a real thing that needs to be investigate the. i will remind you of hunter biden's text message i have to kick back 50% of what i earn to support this family. i don't think joe biden necessarily getting cash directly as much as hunter did a lot of the dirty work and he kicked it up there. liz: irs whistle-blower, top agent in the criminal unit claims the doj, ag garland is giving hunter biden special treatment in the irs tax evasion case. we have house judiciary chairman jim jordan sending a subpoena to jennifer lee moore, reportedly a top human resources official at the fbi. she refused to answer questions during her sit-down interview about the fbi retaliating against whistle-blowers who come forward to raise concerns about abuses they have seen at the fbi. >> it is very scary, very disturbing. starting to see this hunter biden blight go not just to the white house now but also to the president's top aides,

people like antony blinken are being roped in. he was the one responsible for ensy gaiting letter from intelligence officials saying it was russian information. people like merrick garland roped in. he was accused, subject of the irs whistle-blower case, accused of giving false information potentially interfering with the doj probe been in quote, unquote final stages for eight months now, we still have no resolution there. liz: now you got the "new york post," your paper reporting hunter biden emailed his business partner devon archer, who also sat own the board of burisma, ukrainian energy company, two scheduled meetings one-on-one meetings with blink blink, that hunter biden and antony blinken have been on friendly terms for more than a decade. >> yeah. evan ryan too, anthony's wife, biden official. the blight spread to the cabinet secretaries, top aides. there is lot of he said/she

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♪. liz: staying on breaking news coming in, the house just passed the republican debt limit plan with spending cuts. it went by 217-215. it heads to the senate. we have carol roth. that is happening, carol. there is also this, what did you make of florida governor ron desantis and seven state officials? >> this is hard one for me, liz, on one hand i don't like the government trying to bully businesses but i don't like businesses using their cronyism to get special favors. i think at the end of the day this needs to be what is best for the citizens of florida, whether it is desantis, or whether it is disney, it would behoove them both and they both can claim victory. if they need a mediator to call them to work it out. while i'm not a lawyer i play one on your show, liz. dagen: you would be a good one here. trump is saying this is

overreach. others are saying this is overreach for desantis. disney is saying this is a targeted campaign of government retaliation, that detan sis is violating their free speech rights. there has been so much wrong reporting about what the state was doing about the, what has been wrongfully called the you know, that the bill about florida education law stopping teaching of sex orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through third grade. it is not a don't say gay bill. it really isn't. more like that. that is the other side, what happened with disney advocating for that. disney has been getting special tax and regulatory self-governing provisions for years. that is what desantis is talking about too. >> since 196, brings up it is really change things to have the special tax privileges. that is a really long time ago. for this to come up to be an

issue now with a really important employer from the state, seems like there is no winner on either side of this. so it, the timing of it is definitely something that raises an eyebrow but i mean i love bob iger, i love disney. i love ron desantis. i just want them to come together. can't take another divorce. liz: we're hear what you're saying. we're showing the governor's response to the disney lawsuit. both sides have valid points but it is gone about in the wrong way. i mean disney has enjoyed sweetheart deals over their taxes regulations in florida as you point out generations. florida governor desantis is saying cut it out teaching kindergarteners about sex identity, gender orientation that that is wrong and abusive. >> there is so much nuance in here. almost like you need to get them in the room to have it duke it

out. i wonder with the special tax treatment, i know some of citizens of state of florida are worried it actually ends up benefiting them. we need to do the math calculation here. if it ends up being a raise for these citizens they're not going to be so happy if the special treatment goes away either. liz: what is your final word on the debt ceiling package headed to the senate? >> so glad it happened. that it pass the. we need to pass it in the senate. joe biden need to sign it. i don't care who claims victory. >> liz: thank you carol roth. thanks for watching "evening edit" on fox business. we have a jam-packed show for you tomorrow. time now for "the bottom line." dagen and sean are coming up. >> dagen: great to see you emac. sean: thanks, emac