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d.c. reporters angry the white house again accused of misleading with scripted and wild claims that republicans want to, quote, crash the economy. but by bringing back spending to 2022 levels. the economy grew last year. the house gop, hay claim, is holding the economy hostage. house republicans passed an increase to the debt the ceiling, and this is the story, america's standards of living now on the line. first quarter gdp grew just 1.1%. we're in a sharp slowdown, and news coming in fed may again raise interest rates next week to battle his historic inflation fuel by record government spending. what is going on? edward lawrence is going to break it down. there are yeah, liz, those week economic numbers accentuate the fox news polling, basically the answer to are you better off, apparently, is no. fox news polling shows that 78% of people rate the condition of the economy poor or only pair.

21% see it as excellent or good. now, part of the criticism from republicans, the amount of government with spending pushing inflation. many a statement today the -- in a statement today, president biden says the economy is strong. some economists disagree. >> the real killer is the long picture of gdp, the long picture of employment. we're 4 million jobs below the trend we had when trump left office. we are in a very difficult shape here with g the dp. if we don't reverse bigtime, we are going to have a very big long-term problem in the u.s. economy. we need growth and we need it badly. >> reporter: president biden likes to compare his government spending with his predecessor is. the fact is from his first day in office to today, president biden signed more spending into law according to the committee for a responsible federal budget than former donald trump did in that same time period for his administration. so now the white house killing in especially on the debt ceiling -- digging in, saying no

negotiating period. >> unless the president and the senate agree to the an extreme maga wish list slashing, slashing education, veterans' health care, meals on wheels, taking away health care from millions of americans and sending manufacturing jobs overseas, they're going to default and crash the economy. we've said this over and over and over again and been very clear, the president does not agree with this bill. >> reporter: republicans would disagree with the president. there's been no offer with the white house to have a meeting with the house speaker as of yet. elizabeth: e edward lawrence, thank you so much. let's welcome back congressman bryan steil and david bahnsen. congressman, this is wild claims coming out of the white house. how is bringing back spending to 2022 the levels or clawing back unused pandemic money, spending caping tax cuts, how is that, quote, maga? how is that going to crash the

economy? >> what the house just passed is a sensible, reasonable bill to get our economy back on track, to save act payers money -- taxpayers money, to grow our economy. what they only have is attempted talking points. we need to get to work. the president a's got to come to the table and negotiate with conservatives and republicans in the house to try to save taxpayers money. they're going to work to demagogue but let's be honest, this is a good bill. the president needs to come to the table. elizabeth: it's demagoguing and gaslighting, david. kjp reading again from a binder, president biden caught again using a cheat sheet at a press conference with a vetted, pre-approved questions from the l.a. times. if he can't handle questions during a time of war and economic crisis, he shouldn't run. we have 1% gdp growth, more than 14% inflation under biden, two years of real wage decline and he's running again? >> well, i think the issue is that president biden believes he doesn't have to to actually

campaign to get reelected. he's hoping the republicans will make it easy for him, and i hope we don't. i hope that movement conservatives will not allow this. and what art laffer said earlier is exactly the need of the hour, economic growth. we keep talking about the economy's too hot. we need to slow it down. that's ridiculous. it is not too hot. jobs do not create inflation. we have an inadequate production of goods and services. that's what created inflation. we need lower government spending whether a republican is president or a democrat is president. we need to start spending less money and put more of the economy back into the private sector. elizabeth: that's it. growth, growth, growth by the private sector. >> yes. elizabeth: but, congressman, today president biden couldn't remember the last country he visited, literally a child had to remind him. watch this. >> what was the last country you've traveled to? >> the last country i've traveled -- i'm thinking what's the last one i was in. i've been to the 89, met with 89

heads of state so far. so i'm trying to think what was the last, where was the last place i was. it's hard to keep track. >> ireland. >> yeahing or you're right, ireland. elizabeth: a child had to shout out ireland, congressman. biden's team is now doing the circle wagons basement strategy again for 2024. congressman, who is calling the shotsesome who is exercising presidential power? who is telling biden what to say? we're supposed go along with all of this? >> it's incredibly concerning. the the president's on an ancestry.com tour to have ireland, and he can't remember where with he went. he needs to be at the table -- elizabeth: but who's calling the shots at the white house? what do you hear? >> it sure looks like it's insiders at the white house driving a partisan political agenda. it's cleary not president biden. he's concern clearly not president biden. he's got his head mt. stand. he's refusing to negotiate with speaker mccarthy, and the country is at risk because of

the reckless are behavior of president biden's refusal to negotiate. elizabeth: you know, president biden is changing the u.s. economy all on his own, david, with the stroke of a pen, all without congressional, congress signing off. we've never seen a president do what he's doing inned modern history, and he's incentivizing really bad behavior. >> well, i certainly agree, liz. i think that these executive orders are totally outside spirit of the constitution, and i have some moral ground to stand on many saying that because i was totally against it when the prior president was using the executive pen too often. we need to legislate through congress. speaker mccarthy, the colleagues that we're talking to right now passed the bill yesterday. that means the president now needs to go negotiate. the one thing i want to say about him using the cheat sheets and having to have the questions spoon fed to him, i don't think it looks worse on him. i think it looks worse on the reporters that are giving it to him. what kind of self-respect do you have to have as a journalist to

be playing that sort of accomplice role to the president? st the ole the unbecoming of journalistic ethics. elizabeth: yeah. and, you know, there shouldn't be scripted questions anywhere, congressman. you know, rfk jr., he hasn't done anything except announce his candidacy, he's already got around 14 to the 20% in the polls against biden. axios reporting high profile democrats still specifically declining to endorse him. inflation is now entrenched. the white house saying it was the supply chain, then ukraine, then energy which they've been undercutting, now it is rising inflation from the services industry there for things like airfare and childcare, congressman. that's dangerous sufficient. >> yeah, no, it's incredibly courageous. i can't imagine anybody wants to see four more years of president biden a after the first two and a half have driven us in the wrong direction. we all don't need a reminder that for 24 the straight months we've seen inflation outpacing wages. it's the reason that families all across the united states of america can't afford the things

a that their families need. what we need in washington is a change in course. what what we don't need is four more years of president joe biden. elizabeth: so, david, what the congressman just said. you know, by the way, house ways and means is working on tax breaks, repealing the $600 irs reporting for app payments like end venmo. david, where do you come down on this? because the government overspending is shaking the tree of the power of the u.s. collar around the world. now we're looking at the u.s. dollar is used many about 40% of international trade transactions. that's down from about 52%, and now it's looking like it's around 58% of foreign reserves, and that used to be 70%. are you worried about king dollar? >> no, i'm not, but that's not because i'm really proud of everything we're doing to defend our dollar. it's because everybody else is worse. we are still the best house in a bad neighborhood, and that's not a way to defend your currency. we've had strong dollar republican presidents like

ronald reagan and strong dollar democratic presidents like bill clinton, but these weak dollar presidents have got to go. we deserve a strong currency. we're not going to lose our reserve status. i don't want to do the chicken little thing because i don't want to lose credibility later. however, it doesn't matter if we lose reserve status if we forfeit economic growth, if we give up ground to other competitors. that's's what i'm most fearful of, liz -- elizabeth: you mean in china? >> we're going into a low growth environment. and, yes, i do mean china, but plenty of other european countries, other asian countries are more than willing to pick up one industry here, one industry there where we refuse to compete at do our. elizabeth: congressman, what's the next step in the president campaigned that he was a uniter. he hasn't talked to kevin mccarthy in two and a half months. you know, or obama did debt ceiling negotiations. so did clinton. bush did. all presidents have done this. we've never seen a president behave like this one.

>> keeping your head in the sand like the president has cone is incredibly courageous. chuck schumer in the senate claims that that we should move on a clean are debt ceiling. i think chuck schumer should move our bill in the senate. let's see where the votes are in the senate. the reason they have not moved forward is they do not have the votes to pass a clean debt ceiling. why? because it's a terrible idea. this is the moment many time that we can limit government spending, we can save taxpayers money, we can grow the economy. let's get to work who, let's sit down, let's make this a win for the american people and a win for the u.s. economy. elizabeth: you know, david, getting back to the biden changing the u.s. economy with stroke of a pen, senate gop, the courts are moving to stop him on things like doing changes to energy, forcing us to buy electric cars, you know, plant, you know, plant output of emissions. where do you see that going, david? because that's what's really also hurting the u.s. economy.

we should have more supply going into the economy many in an inflationary environment. they're going the other way. >> well, particularly with energy. see, i really believe that a good portion to of the non-energy inflation that we had was related to supply chain problems, was related to the stupid covid lockdowns, and then we reopened with inadequate supply. but with energy this is an ongoing decision we're making to be undersupplied of an industry that, first of all, could meet our own energy needs domestically but, second of all, could export oil and gas to the world. it could become a growth engine, create a lot of jobs but much environmentally superior earn. it could totally neuter the impact vladimir putin. there's so many things we're leaving behind by not being an energy leader, and i absolutely blame president biden's decisions. and i blame the overall woke, esg left that's providing the cultural basis for president biden to continue doing this which he knows is

counterproductive to the american economy. elizabeth: yeah. so what david just said. and, congressman, that's going on, again, keyes reporters who -- d.c. reporters who have covered washington since reagan, through george h.w. bush, through clipon the, through george w., through obama, they never saw a president rely on scripted, pre-vetted questions from reporters aode of heym -- ahead of time. they haven't seen that. d.c. reporters are in an outrage, and now you've got climate activists increasingly disrupting president biden's own climate aides. they're reportededly planning a protest this weekend for the white house correspondents' dinner. of what do you think? >> as we look at the importance of unleashing american energyies it is one of the reasons -- energy, it's one of the reasons we put it in the package. let's unleash the american economy. the president knows we need more energy. it's why he went and begged for oil in saudi arabia, why he provided he'ses to to countries like venezuela. let's unleash that here in the united states of america.

it provides jobs and lowers costs. we have a huge opportunity with energy. elizabeth: so now they're pushing the ptc, david, to -- ftc, david, to stop using the term natural gas saying it appears e overly green. natural gas occurs naturally underground. it's responsible for why we've lowered our emissions. david, this is really orwellian stuff, and they keep saying companies have got to move that they've offset their own emissions. climate activists are demanding the government force companies to prove they're really net zero. i mean, david, maybe this is too churlish. is the government going to demand john kerry, al gore or pete buttigieg what they keep saying, that they do carbon offset purchases when they fly around in private jets or use gas-guzzling cars? what do you think? >> they're certainly not. we know there's a lot of hypocrisy from the these outspoken, green extremists. i want to get back to your point of taking away the language of natural gas. this is something the lefts has

done effectively for 75 years, try to change the vocabulary instead of winning the argument. natural gas is natural, and it is the greenest of the fossil fuels. it emits the least carbon, and they know it. and you will not get reduced emissions without greater use of natural gas. the heft needs to come to terms with that. breath elizabeth and be real. congressman, david, thanks for joining us. we'll have you back on again soon. democrats on camera saying that female athletes, that they're upset about transgenders athletes beating them, is, quotp issue is. really? they're ignoring biological males physically injuring female athletes in sports. tennis legend martina-and-a-half that love v.a. says this is unfair, and senator chuck grassley reveals he has documents proving the fbi buried potential, quote, criminal conduct by the biden family and

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schools roped. they begged for -- reopened. they begged for $is 90 billion -- 190 billion and ended up spending none of it to reopen our schools. and despite all that, she pushed to keep schools closed working closely with the cdc to draft language that would allow for a trigger to keep new york city and schools across america closed. so what she said at the hearing yesterday certainly did not make sense, and that is why we had this hearing, to expose the lies and also expose the fact that she donated tons of money, tons of money to joe biden and the democrats and and then had unprecedented access, access that parents didn't have, the catholic schools didn't have is, private schools can't have and other educators didn't have is, but yet the teachers union managed to do it. and when you look at, by the way, the cities where schools were kept closed the longest, it is where the teachers union is the most influential. and they're democrat-run cities. elizabeth: let's watch again your questioning and watch jim

jordan's questioning as well. watch this. >> it's no secret that your union, your local affiliates spent $20 million on political donations with nearly all of the funds going to democrats and liberal groups in the 2021 cycle. as the debate about reopening schools raged. and i think it is a question that we have, is when you had this type of access because of those contributions. we don't see the parents being asked their opinions or the private schools being asked their opinions on school reopenings. >> who cares more about a child's education, the teachers union or the child's parents? >> i would say that, mr. jordan or representative jordan, teachers, parents -- parents and teachers care can about kids. obviously, parents care about their own kids more than probably anyone else. but teachers and parents are real partners in children's education. elizabeth: okay. whenning you heard that, what was your thought?

because parents say they increasingly get iced out after -- of all these decisions, and she's accused of moving the goalposts and again she tweeted where she repeats the same words over and over again, you know, that she was for this for two years. but behind the scene scenes not doing enough to open schools. this is the same tactic dr. fauci is now using when they get pushback on their bad decisions. when you heard her say all this, what were you thinkingsome. >> you know what? she was right about one thing, teachers in my district wanted the schools to reopen. principals i speak to wanted, paraposition professionals. they -- paraprofessionals. it was the teachers union, it was randi weingarten who fought to keep them closed. and what are we seeing as a result? our children are failing. 50% are passing reading, 30% are passing the math exams. one out of three of our young people can't read at their level. many in elementary school.

it is so shocking to see the effect that this has had on our young people, and we had talked about it all this time and yet you still have the union pushing for these closure withs despite emotional, the social, the suicides that we saw take place among students. they needed to get back to engaging -- elizabeth: yeah, so what's the positive message to parents? what can they take going forward? is this -- is anything going to change? or are the teachers unions really being called out and shown for the truth of what's really going on behyphened the scenes? >> that's why we passed our parents' bill of rights. it gives parents more power when it comes to curriculum, school budgets and more. meetings with teachers mt. classroom to get their opinions across without being call by terrorists -- called terrorists by the doj. and the second thing is remember what the teachers union did

here. remember what they did to your children. and i'll tell you, there's teachers in my district who will no longer vote the way the union has told them to vote in the past, because they saw the damage that was done to the children in their classroom, and they're very disappointed by it. elizabeth: got it. congresswoman malliotakis, come back soon. senator chuck grassley reveals he has government whistleblower documents proving the fbi buried potential, quote, criminal conduct by the biden family as russian disinformation. and a two-time olympic runner on democrats on camera saying transjenner athletes -- transgender athletes, female athlete ares shouldn't be upset. they're ignoring biological males injuring female athletes many in sports. and tennis legend martina navera a that love v.a. is saying, oh, this is unfair. it's on "the evening edit" next. ♪ (woman) what if all i do isn't enough?

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exist, females would be totally absent from sport. you simply cannot have men who say they are woman competing in the female category, that then makes it unfair for every female in that category. and they were, this was in the mass race in the london marathon. there were oaf 20,000 actual females mass race in the london marathon. everyone suffered unfair competition. he beat nearly 14,000 of them. some people say, this is just a fun run, they're just raising money for charity but it is still a sports competition. even women who are not that fast in running note fair competition matters for them and if we say, okay, let's let this glen run in the women's race, even though he is male, you say okay let's allow 10, 50, 100, allow half the field to be male. it makes nonsense of female

category in women's sports. my theory if you're born male at birth, you must compete in the male category, you must stay out of the female category. liz: there is growing outrage around the world in australia, europe, britain about this. fox news talked to democrats on capitol hill. they, the democrats appearing out of touch saying this is a non-issue. get your reaction to that you will hear high school volleyball athlete peyton mcnab, she was knocked out by a spike in the face by a 70 mile-an-hour volleyball spike from tran gender athlete. riley gaines will talk about how an fair this is. >> two weeks of traveling around virginia, nobody asked me about this. this is not is what is on folks mind. >> we might create an issue that isn't really there. >> you might likely have your kid play with future nba all-star than have to deal with what republicans are suggesting is going on here. >> i was severely injured in a high school volleyball game by a transgender athlete on the

opposing team. i suffered from a concussion, neck injury to this day i'm still recovering from. other injuries i still suffer from today, impaired vision, partial paralysis on my right side, constant headaches, as well as anxiety and depression. >> safety is a big part of it. of course men on average are taller stronger, more powerful, faster. any sport where you worry about physical contact there is risk of being injured by a male. liz: you heard eric swalwell, democrat, women suck it up, you may get the commands to chance to play against a future nba star. they are wildly out of touch. nine time wimbledon champion. martina navratilova. they are adopting a policy to stop this. what do you make of democrats like swalwell talking about this? >> democrats position is utterly disappointing to me.

i'm a left, center left voter all my life. if i were in the u.s. i would be voting democrat not because of this issue. you know this is a about the safety, privacy, dignity and in sport fairness of half the world's population. just beyond me how any politician thrown only single, rape crisis shelters, domestic abuse centers, toilet, all that under the bus. it is staggering to me. i can't really believe how we got here. coming back to glen or glen i.q. ue he calls himself feeling like a woman. he did interview, it is clear he has done no testosterone suppression whatsoever, what british athletics rules require of males competing in female category. they require that until the 31st of march. he has done none of that. it is pure self id.

i am a woman. i'm going in the female category. he has done no transition jo olympian, mara, yamuchi. we hope to have you on again soon. good to see you. >> thank you. liz: the war of words escalating. disney sues florida governor ron desantis. he is clapping back. we have senator chuck grassley reveals he has government whistle broker -- whistle-blower documents that the fbi bury ared potential criminal conduct by the biden family as russian disinformation. coming up next on "the evening edit." >> if you look under the rug, you see number of biden family members, is justice blind if your name is biden here? it ought to be investigated to the fullest extent of the law. ♪.

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congressman pat fallon. good to see you. senator chuck grassley for the first time revealing his starve has government documents from whistle blowers, that the fbi buried potential criminal conduct by members of the biden family as russian disinformation. what are you hear about this? >> yeah the same thing, liz, and it is very chilling to think that we have law enforcement, federal law enforcement acting on behest of any politician quite frankly. and it is not, unfortunately surprising but i was very, very, heartened it hear senator grassley's comments. liz: senator grassley says the documents indicate that president biden was aware of hunter biden's business deals and may have been involved in them. congressman, listen to senator chuck grassley talk about this from the floor of the senate. watch. >> based on protected whistle-blower allegations i know the fbi falsely labeled that evidence as rush russian

disinformation to bury it. today the biden justice department, the fbi have not challenged the accuracy of these allegations. they can't because my staff hasn'tly reviewed records to support the allegations. >> this follows last week's news, irs whistle-blower, top agent claimed two doj officials interfered in the doj criminal investigation of hunter biden. so putting this all together, what is going on in d.c.? >> well, liz, we're following the evidence and we're going to go where the evidence leads us. every time we find something else there is yet another thing that is discovered. let as be very clear here, joe biden said in 2019 as candidate for president he had no knowledge of his son's business dealings. he built the firewall. we find the truth, he hosted, had dinner with, took pictures with, talked extensively and met with dozens of hunter biden's

business associates. he told a lie. begs the question why was he lying in 2019? that is why they're dragging their feet to protect the biden family. liz: senator grassley, senator johnson, say in the summer of 2020, senator chuck schumer, then speaker pelosi, adam schiff tried to squash their investigation into biden family corruption, sending a letter with a classified attachment to the fbi, then democrats asked the two senators to get an fbi briefing. after they did that, these senators say the fbi leaked their briefing to "the washington post" that this was all russian disinformation. then it was katy-bar-the-door, congressman. >> we now know the truth, it wasn't disinformation. interestingly enough that was the goal prior to the election. postelection we find out the truth. that is why it is something that we have to continue to pursue and hunter biden should face justice like any other american. i'm tired of this, this administration, weaponizing the federal law enforcement.

liz: house oversight chair james comer said a dozen, finding now a total of a dozen, at least a dozen biden family members made money off the biden family deals selling influence and cashing in on the president's government job. do you know anymore about that? when will we hear about that? >> liz, what we're trying to figure out to this day what was hunter biden selling what service or product was providing? there is nothing. you just can't tell and that's why it is incredibly fishy. there are millions of dollars coming from for ininfluencers. he has again to be held into account. liz: will we hear more who the dozen biden family members are? will we hear the names? >> i'm not a betting man, liz but i go to vegas on that. liz: congressman fallon. thanks for joining us. >> thanks, liz. god bless. liz: our "hot take" with kevin o'leary, also known as mr. wonderful coming up. plus washington times charlie hurt, war of words is escalating. disney is suing florida governor

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♪. >> they had no accountability, no transparency, none of that. that arrangement was not food gd for the state of florida. we did not think that should continue. liz: governor ron desantis on growing fight over disney's lawsuit against him and seven other state officials. welcome back to the show "washington times" opinion editor charlie hurt. charlie, where do you come down on all of this because florida

governor ron desantis said disney's lawsuit against him and other officials, is without merit that they have no legal right to corporate welfare? >> he said it is all political. of course it is all political from the very beginning, this has all been political. the whole reason that this whole feud began in the first place is because disney decided to go after ron desantis for his very, very smart and middle of the road and centrist law about not teaching sexualized stuff to third-graders, which makes sense to everybody except apparently for disney. the problem with ron desantis, it started out as a really good political fight for ron desantis but as it drags on, the farther and farther people get away from the very good reason why ron desantis picked this fight or responded to the fight that disney picked with him, however you want to frame it, the farther you get away from it,

the more people sort of lose the whole very good point that ron desantis was making at the beginning. so it is a great fight for him to have but the problem is as it drags on it gets more complicated and more difficult for him to sort of remind people of the whole primary reason he got into this, got into the fight with to begin with. liz: it is like two separate issues, right? it is about teaching gender identity, sexual identity, sexual orientation to kindergarteners, that is parents right now. >> 90-10 issue. everybody agrees with him on that except disney. liz: you shouldn't teach children at that age, mature any, any mature sexual content whatsoever. should be further, into at least 7th grade or up through high school. there is that but also disney has enjoyed self-governing

privileges in the orlando area for five decades this is the reedy creek district. disney has been using backdoor legal means to evade a state takeover of the district, that they have enjoyed where they get tax privileges and get regulatory control over their environs down there, what do you think, charlie? it is two separate issues. >> exactly, your point is exactly right it is two separate issues and that's the problem for desantis because of course he wasn't going to go after the reedy corporation because, for no reason at all, or he didn't, he didn't go after them until idiot disney decided to go after ron desantis for his very smart legislation, and then he picked the fight. i do believe that at the very beginning it was a very smart fight because ron desantis was completely right about his legislation as evidence what florida voters thought about it in the aftermath but the problem is, as it goes on and on, and it

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♪. liz: look who is here for tonight's "hot take." o'leary venture chairman, kevin o'leary. great to see you, thanks for joining us tonight. what do you make of this? we have climate activists ramping up protests in d.c.? they demand the ftc get everyone stop calling natural gas natural. what do you think of that? >> yeah. i understand that, there is one problem of course, natural gas is natural gas it is an element comes naturally out of effort. it provides energy to millions of americans. the narrative is getting difficult these daves regarding energy policy and it is part of a overall situation we got to

fix, and i hope to be part of this narrative. it is really a bipartisan issue, it is clear to everybody looking at this issue after what happened in germany, ukrainian issue with russia, everything else, we need energy independence. we have to have a new policy in place because after the pandemic everybody realizes whether it is masks, hazmat material, drugs or chips, semiconductors, we can't live anymore on just in time inventory in america. we need a just in case inventory. that includes energy, energy. we need our own energy. liz: president biden is not doing it on a bipartisan basis. he is changing the u.s. economy on his own with the stroke of a pen where he is circumvents congress on things like regulating u.s. energy, penalizing higher credit borrowers to subsidize fees with riskier borrowers. student loan bailout, bailing out uninsured depositors with bank collapses. biden pays people with more benefits and covid funds.

he is altering on his own in the u.s. economy with things like u.s. energy. >> these are debates going on no different from the budget ceiling quite frankly. this is narrative is starting on a whole bunch of agenda items. you just defined the 2024 election. all of those issues are huge, energy one of them. everybody realizes we have to have a policy. now you can debate what you want in terms of how you get to energy independence. i would argue every source is needed, every single source. we need everything. we need nat-gas, we need oil, we need solar, we need wind, we need nuclear. we need it all. that has got to be put into a package. i don't think this will be hard to sell to the american people. people get the joke on energy, now. they looked at germany nearly freezing their heinies off in the winter. they are very lucky they had a warm winter. they don't want that to happen in texas again. dagen: you made history. you used the heinie word on

"the evening edit". thank you for that. so, biden campaigned, he said he would knock out fossil fuels. he is doing it. no president should have that power. that is an autocrat, right? we're not an autocratic society. this is not how the u.s. economy is run. now we got democrat senator joe manchin, he is inviting you to home state of west virginia. are you really interesting in build ag-oil refinery in the u.s.? will you take him up on his offer? >> yes i am. i am going there. this proves the point it is bipartisan issue. same issue nor north dakota, governor berg ram, cramer. these good senators, good leaders understand we have to work together. refineries are needed. we have not built one since 1977 in louisiana. we need at least six more just to provide what we'll need over the next 36 months. dagen: but is biden listening, but is biden listening to you? >> i will be making a lot of

noise. i hope he does. my point is i'm doing it on a bipartisan basis. i'm going to the hill. i will talk about raising capital, debt an equity for this. sovereign wealth funds around the world want to invest in america. what they need is permits. they need leadership at a state level. we'll put the refineries near exciting pipelines, so we don't have to fight the pipeline issue. we'll do this. we'll do this on both sides of the aisle. dagen: kevin o'leary, sounds like you're running for office. thank you, kevin, come back soon. >> thank you. liz: thanks for joining us i'm liz macdonald on "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us. we'll have a hot show tomorrow, stay on headlines coming out of washington and more. time for my buddies on "the bottom line." hi, dagen and sean. dagen: hey, emac. liz: thank you so much. ♪.

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