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a special edition of the "evening edit" starts right now. >> i'm announcing today -- >> [applause] >> -- that i'm running for president of the united states! >> [applause] >> love america! jackie: the gop 2024 field has officially gotten bigger. south carolina senator tim scott announcing he's running for president. this as reports show that florida governor ron desantis could declare his candidacy this week. for more on this let's bring in former speaker of the house and fox news contributor, newt gingrich. also, the author of "march to the majority" out on june 6 but it's available for pre-order on amazon right now. speaker great to have you with us and first i want to start by asking what you thought of tim scott on the stage today. it was a very powerful message that he seemed to be imparting

on america. he said that the democrats were attacking the wrungs of the ladder that he climbed up on your thoughts? >> well, i think tim scott is a great human being. i've known him since he was a county commissioner many years ago, and i watched him as a congressman and then as a senator. he's going to be a unifying figure. he's going to bring a message of hope. he's a deeply christian person. he's committed to bringing people together, not dividing them, and i think that he's been a very positive force in the senate, so i think he's a serious person. i'm delighted he's running. he represents the kind of republican future that is inclusive, that's idea-oriented and positive. i wish him well and i think we're all going to be better off for knowing him and for having him seek a leadership role. jackie: between those who have already declared, and those who have the potential to declare, this field is, you know, a pretty big crowded stage. is there anybody besides tim

scott even though we know right now president trump is probably in the lead? is there anybody that stands out to you as a dark horse? >> well, i think there are a lot of dark horses. the most interesting one is vivek ramaswamy who has come out of nowhere, much like trump did in 2015 and 2016 and vivek is a brilliant businessman, a very articulate person. i've done two podcasts with him at gingrich 360, because he wrote two very interesting books and steadily climbing up the ladder. everybody except trump is a long shot and that includes desantis who we have seen have his support cut about in half since he first started talking about running. partly because of the effectiveness of the trump people have been running, so you're going to have a number of players. remember there were i think 16 in 2016 when trump won the nomination. he had to beat 15 other people,

so i wouldn't be at all surprised to see eight, nine, 10 , 11 candidates before this is over. jackie: fair enough. a lot of it will come down to fundraising, how much money each of the candidates has behind them, the recent news republican mega donor hal lambert will be supporting florida governor ron desantis, not president trump and it's interesting because trump's campaign slogan, "make america great again" many are surveillancessing the donors are waiting for . >> governor: for desantis to declare before they are choosing who they are going to back. your thoughts? >> well, look, i think that ron desantis, governor desantis is clearly the number two candidate but he's a pretty distant number two, in the last couple polls and i was looking at things today. we've done some polling at our project which is america's new majority project.com and you look at all of the polling data coming out. you get trump clearly the front

runner. you have desantis generally in second place, but in some places , he's gotten substantially weaker than he was a couple months ago, and so i think you have a number of people who are looking for a candidate that's why you end up with a tim scott, that's why you end up with a nikki haley. you're going to have a number of other players come in. desantis will have a money advantage over everybody except trump, but, you know, there's a point where money doesn't count. you listen to tim scott speak. he's a very charasmatic person and he's going to do very well in the early states. jackie: let's talk about this new, it's a harvard caps harris poll and it found if there was a hypothetical 2024 matchup, with joe biden for the democrats and donald trump for the republicans, that trump be ahead by seven points, but governor ron desantis, although he hasn't formally announced has said he is the only person that could beat joe biden. >> well, this is one of the

challenges desantis has is that in almost every poll now, trump can beat biden so it's a little harder, you know, a little harder for desantis to go and say hey, i'm the only guy who can win a next general election and among republican voters, the biggest challenge is that for 50 or 60% of the republican voters trump is the guy who for seven years has been attacked. they just got the durham report that said many of those attacks were illegal. they were false. they were deliberate effort by the bureaucracy and the news media to destroy him and he's still standing, and so i think it's very hard to peel very many votes away from trump. i think somebody may be able to consolidate the non-trump voters but again, the track record in 2016 was that once trump starts rolling, he's a very effective candidate and he's very effective at taking apart his opponents. jackie: yeah, and also we're dealing with this debt ceiling issue as well.

we'll see how the current president handles this. president trump is really going to hit hard on the economy, on the border, and all the things that he handled very successfully when he was in office. newt gingrich, thank you so much good to see you tonight. >> thank you. jackie: all right, well, debt negotiations as i mentioned are going to resume in about 25 minutes, after president biden caused a bit of a stir this weekend when he said he's " blameless" if the u.s. defaults and instead, he pointed the finger, once again, at maga republicans. grady trimble is live at the white house with more for us. hi, grady. reporter: jackie, yes, we are less than half an hour away from this meeting and potentially as close as 10 days to a default , if the two sides don't reach a deal, and one area where they are still hung up according to our colleague jacqui heinrich is on work requirements. speaker kevin mccarthy has said that is a red line for him. that's what he said in the past, but when he was asked about it today, he wouldn't go that far.

what we do know though is that work requirements are popular among voters, both republicans and democrats. a recent axios poll found nearly two-thirds of those surveyed support work requirements for medicaid and snap benefits. that includes almost half of democrats. >> ablebodied people that is no dependents help them get a job. work requirements does that so we look to there. how do we build things in america, again? this red tape stops a lot of things that are going to happen so can we get some reforms there reporter: another area where there are questions in these negotiations, caps on future spending and how long they might last. this evening's meeting will look different than the previous two because it will be between only president biden and speaker mccarthy. senate majority leader chuck schumer, house minority leader

hakeem jefferies will sit this out and so will senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. over the weekend in japan president biden continued to call on speaker mccarthy to be the one to budge. as far as timing goes, speaker mccarthy said this afternoon the two sides have to reach a deal by the end of this week, essentially, in order to pass something in the house and senate by that deadline. we're also learning about when that deadline might be a little more precisely treasury secretary janet yellen sent a letter to speaker mccarthy tonight saying that the u.s. might not be able to pay its bills as early as june 1 certainly, in the first part of june, early june is what she said in that letter, so we will see what happens in tonight's high stakes meeting, jackie. jackie: we sure will. it always seems to get down to the wire. grady trimble thank you so much. joining me now is former economic advisor to president trump steve moore and former treasury official monica crowley it is great to have you both

here tonight. let's start with this. listen to president biden's comments on the debt negotiations that drew just a little bit of criticism. reporter: do you think if there's a breach, nobody is going to blame you? >> nobody will blame me. i know you won't. you'll be saying biden did a wonderful job. >> [laughter] reporter: i'm asking would you be blameless in a default situation? >> on the merits based on what i've offered, i be blameless. on the politics of it, no one be blameless. jackie: um, steve, that was kind of funny even though this isn't standup and it's not supposed to be funny. having said that you can't be the captain of the titanic, crash the ship and say you're not blameless, correct? >> i can't improve on that, jackie. i think you put it really well there. i'll just report to you, i've had meetings today with a number of the house republicans, including some of the people in the freedom caucus and others and i've got to tell you. they are not in the mood. they believe they are winning this both political fight and

that they are standing on principle that you don't raise the debt ceiling without doing something that prevents the country from going bankrupt and so i don't see kevin mccarthy today, you know, making huge concessions. now he's going to make some concessions but things like work requirements are important to republicans. the idea of a longer-term reduction in government spending in terms of these caps, all of the $300 billion of green energy all that stuff republicans are pretty insistent that they be in the deal. jackie: monica, i want to get your talk on this because there's an ap poll that basically says 33%, that's all, 33% of american voters approve of the job that president biden has done on the economy. i think this debt ceiling issue can be lumped in there. my feeling is if he mess this up , if he can't make sure that his party comes to the table with a deal and finds common ground with kevin mccarthy, which would include spending cuts, and these work requirements, that he puts

himself in a really bad position come 2024. >> yeah, and even worse one than he already is in political ly. yeah, i mean look. washington doesn't do anything without their hair on fire, so i expect this to go right up into the midnight deadline here, whether or not they get a deal done, but i do expect it to go into the last minute, but there will be significant economic consequences as there already are and there will be drastic political consequences as well, and yet, joe biden seems to shru g hits it all off and that's a large part because he and his party enjoy the protection of the press, and when you've got the protection of the press, you can literally get away with anything, including this kind of high wire act over the debt, but toaster's point and your point about the polls, jackie, the vast majority of the american people across the board, across both sides of the aisle, want something done on out of control government spending. they understand that this level

of spending has fueled inflation that hits them everyday all day long on groceries, on gas, on home heating costs, air condition costs, you name it. they are being hit in the wallet and so they understand the connection and they want both sides to come to an agreement here but they also understand that the republicans have put forth a very reasonable proposal that has passed the house and now the ball is in the white house's court and they are doing absolutely nothing to meet the republicans even half way. jackie: and that's an excellent point. kevin mccarthy for anybody who is out there that forgot about 9 % inflation in june of 2022 and the $6 trillion of spending that got us there, he had this to say >> inflation, its caused havoc, had bank closures, people are having real challenges making us more dependent upon china, and we continue to borrow more money from china to pay ablebodied

people to stay home and sit on a couch. that's the democrats since they took the majority has been addicted to spending and that's going to stop. we're going to spend less than we spent last year. jackie: so steve, you know, after everything we've been through, with the spending on the left, how can anybody stand by and justify it anymore? >> [laughter] you know even barack obama was a pretty liberal president let's face it. he was not one of my favorites but he negotiated. by the way you know who negotiated on behalf of the obama white house? it was joe biden. so there's nothing new here about presidents negotiating with congress to pass a debt ceiling. i've lived through eight of these and monica has lived through a lot as well but i'll make one other quick point. if i'm kevin mccarthy, what i would say to joe biden is look. we have passed a bill. we run the house. democrats run the senate. we're not negotiating until the democrats and the senate come up with a bill because they are nowhere right now.

jackie: right, right, monica i'll give the last word to you. >> yeah, look. we cannot go on like this , and i think most of the american people understand that. we're closing in on $32 trillion in the national debt this year alone. we're going upwards of $2 trillion in annual deficit. the american people understand that this is totally un sustainable. this is more debt by any nation in the history of the world, and they know that there's direct connection between this kind of out of control government spending and this federal government and their own day-to-day economic existence and they have had enough. jackie: i think you guys both make excellent points and i always say progressive left is so worried about climate change and the planet and what we're leaving for our children coming, you know, in the future, and i always say to myself but you don't care about the budget and debt and extreme conditions that you're going to leave those same children under economically and financially. we need to put it in check. steve moore, monica crowley,

great to see you both, thank you >> thank you. jackie: the naacp is issuing a travel warning in florida, claiming that the sunshine state has become hostile to black americans under governor ron desantis' leadership, and the federalist margot cleveland will be here to talk about it. neil gorsuch giving an overview of how utility the civil liberties were trampled during the covid era and how nancy pelosi were caught skirting the rules themselves. >> this is like giving you a bowl of doggie doo, putting a cherry on top calling it a chocolate sundae.

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jackie: let's welcome to the show the federalist senior legal correspondent margot cleveland. great to have you with us tonight. i want to get into this story. supreme court justice neil gorsuch issuing a fiery review on how the pandemic was handled saying that the u.s. may "have experienced the greatest intrusions on civil liberties in the peacetime history of this country" and in retrospect, there are many people who would

agree with him. they would say the lockdowns throughout the country, vaccine mandates, mask mandates, social distancing, shutting down business, was extremely not only catastrophic but also unlawful to a certain degree. >> absolutely, and i think like you said if you look at in retrospect, we had the government closing down places of worship. you can't really get much more extreme than that. the schools, at least they are government schools in a sense, that you can look at it as okay well maybe the government has some role in that. of course that was too far too but think about it our population allowed the closing down of places of worship and as he said in his statement, fear is a very big motivator and it worked. jackie: yeah, it certainly did. it's interesting too, because so many of the democrats who were pushing for these policies, were

breaking the rules left and right, and as time passes, people forget. they also forget that we have 9% inflation just last year, so i want to remind them of some of the biggest infractions that we could recall. michigan governor whitmer, she had to apologize because there was a photo of her at a bar violating her own order. nancy pelosi had to get her roots done at the hair salon. she was walking around inside maskless, and of course there was governor gavin newsom of california. he was having a maskless dinner at the french laundry at a time when kids were suffering, because they weren't going to school. some of them needed those meals. businesses were shutdown. people were worried about their livelihood. it's really hard when you think about what happened, and how some of the leaders were handl ing it themselves. >> right. the double standard really was amazing, which makes you think they didn't think it was that serious for them to have

actually engaged in those activities but the point you started with about people have forgotten this. i think that's why the statement is so important. we aren't in a crisis now. we don't have that fear driving us. now is the time that the public should be having this type of a discussion, because there is going to be something else that comes. something where now, the left knows that the populous will be coward by whatever crisis they want to call out so i think now is really the time to have that discussion, when we don't have that fear hanging over our heads, and we can look at it more objectively as to what happened. jackie: i want to listen to a montage of business leaders who were talking about what happened during the pandemic and margot, get your reaction on the other side. >> again, this is a political p loy, and again as usual, politicians make these kind of mandates because they aren't laws, and then they expect us to follow through. >> you know, we have --

there's not as much if really any foot traffic right now. >> i'm trying to keep things in stock and in inventory and actually meet consumer's demands has been a real challenge. >> now i'm closing at one location two days a week, the other location i'm closing one-day a week and doing this for my employees to get them time off. jackie: these business leaders were speaking on our network the whole time, and margot, you have to sit back and say to yourself, did we even learn anything from what happened here if this were to happen again would we see the progressive left try to shut the country down once more even though we've seen the catastrophic results of that? >> i think we would, but i think the difference is that you would have moderates and conservatives not going along with it. even when this was going on the first time, you didn't have many conservatives out there screaming about the violations either through the law making which it wasn't lawmaking it was

just edicts or the impact on liberty so that's one difference you would have but the left wing is still going to do the same thing. you're seeing that through the social media. you're seeing that where you had a congressman ask well can we use twitter to make sure that they don't talk about bank runs? so you're seeing how every emergency is going to give those who want the government to control the excuse to do so. jackie: right. >> i think the republicans learned their lesson and they aren't going to let fear allow them to go along with it again. jackie: you bring up great points, margot cleveland thank you so much for being here always appreciate your insight. >> thanks so much. jackie: well, sanctuary city new york city, the mayor here, eric adams, now calling on other cities to take on migrants, plus florida congresswoman kat cammack on the naacp issuing travel warnings in florida claiming that the sunshine state has become hostile to black

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formal travel advisory for the state of florida arguing that the state under governor ron desantis and his leadership "has engaged in an all-out attack on black americans and other minority groups." reaction let's welcome florida congresswoman kat cammack. congresswoman great to have you here tonight. i want to get your reaction to this because the first thing i thought when i read the statement was where are they getting this from? where is the evidence that supports what they are saying? when you think about black unemployment, for example, in your state, it's lower than it is in many parts across the country so what is it exactly that desantis is doing to black americans at the naacp doesn't want you to go there? >> well, jackie, he's running for president. that's what he's doing, clearly, as evidence by the timing of this publicity stunt, because it can't be called anything but a stunt. there is no factual data to backup their claims. it's not worth the paper that that horrific statement is

written on, and it really is a slap in the face to all of the hard working americans who call florida home. black, white, brown, it doesn't matter. we are all floridians. we're all americans, and you know, i thought it was particularly troubling that they said that florida was hostile to the black community. let me tell you what's hostile to the black community. rising gas prices. that's hostile. inflation, historic inflation. that's hostile. how about the crime wave that's gripping america? that's hostile to the black community. it seems that the liberal progressive policies that are crippling america that's what's actually hostile to the black community and all americans. jackie: according to the visit florida website obviously the state really relies on tourism. it's an important part of its revenue. the tourism industry in florida was responsible for welcoming 137.6 million visitors in 2022. i'm not sure how many women will follow this warning from the naacp but it almost seems as if it's an attack not just on

desantis, not just on the state but the naacp is trying to hit them where it hurts in their pocketbook. >> i don't think anyone will pay anything whatsoever to the so-called travel advisory. i believe that aoc was just in miami not too long ago. again no one is paying attention to this. i heard one nsnbc commentator say that florida was turning into a "terror state." i don't know how she would define a terror state but if pin a coladas and flip-flops and freedom are considered terrorism then that's something new to me. i can't get over the fact that you have so many americans who flock to florida, seeking out better educational opportunities seeking employment opportunities seeking freedom from government overreach, and it doesn't matter if they are white, black, or brown. they want to do the best they can for their businesses and their families and they are finding it in florida and that right there, that's a threat to

the naacp because what they want is dependency and control. jackie: what i find particularly ironic under these circumstances and what we're discussing right now is that the chairman of the naacp, leon w. russel, he lives in tampa, congresswoman. >> yeah, yeah, you know? he lives anularia way from my district! jackie: it's ridiculous. >> it is. jackie: it's just not only, it's outrageous, but your colleague, by on donalds also responded this today. i want to roll this. >> i don't even know what the naacp is talking about. this is silly and dumb and political and makes no sense. we should be focused on making sure people have the opportunity to achieve which florida is actually doing and thriving in, way better than other states, let's say new york or california, or washington state. we're doing a significantly better job helping black americans succeed and it's not just about me. it's about all the millions of black people that live in our state. jackie: i think he brings up a great point. living here in new york city, we

talk about the economics of this city all the time. we talk about the crime problems that we have here. we talk about the migrant crisis right now with the overflow of people that we can't handle, and so i look at florida and many people look at florida, have already come and moved to your state as a result of the opportunity that's there, and the quality of life that's there. the new york that we all knew is no longer, and so the people who are stuck here paying the majority of the taxes are, you know, legitimately stuck and can't travel, but having said that, it's not like black people or the lgbtq community is any better off here, believe me. >> [laughter] no. certainly not. i mean, that's evidenced by the fact that we picked up congressional districts in florida because of the mass exodus out of blue states into red states like texas and florida, and i tell you, people are flocking to the sunshine state because they want better educational outcomes for their kids, because they want to be able to go to church on sunday,

without fear of the government interfering or telling them they can't, because of a so-called pandemic. they want to be able to run their business without government overreach. they want to be able to raise a family and thrive in business and find opportunity and you see the contrast to that in police blue states where they want equal outcome. not equal opportunity. they want equal outcome and the democrat party for as long as i have been alive for 35 years have been the party of equal outcome. not equal opportunity. they want dependency and control and they are losing their grip. that is why people are flocking to florida and this is why they had to do this stunt. jackie: it also doesn't hurt, congresswoman, that you know, the business model for the state doesn't have the state income tax. people feel more money sticking to their bones as well, and at the end of the day, money goes where it's treated best. larry kudlow always says that. congresswoman kat cammack, thank you so much great to see you tonight. >> have a good one. jackie: let's turn to meta because it was hit with a record

$1.3 billion privacy fine by the european union ordering the social media giant to stop sending data collected by facebook users in europe over to the united states. this was over fears of spying. susan li is in new york with the latest for us. susan? >> the european union wants facebook and mark zuckerberg to pay up but meta says this ruling will ultimately hurt users. 225 million using facebook on the european continent saying that without the ability to transfer data across borders, the internet risks being carved up into national and regional silos, restricting the global economy, and leaving citizens in different countries unable to access many of the shared services we have come to rely on now, eu finds not new to mark zuckerberg's company being ordered to pay nearly $2.5 billion in the past nine months all for these fines alleging data breaches for teenagers and advertising, et cetera. it's not just meta. you have amazon also being ordered to pay nearly

$900 million just a few years ago accused of scraping user data illegally for its own advertising both amazon and meta appealed their cases. now there is an eu u is data deal being negotiated and this actually might speed up the implementation within the next six months, so if approved that means the tech companies like meta, like google and amazon, will still be able to keep transferring eu data back to the u.s. , while giving european users more powers to challenge spying, however facebook might still have to pay that billion dollar fine since it was for damages before a deal was signed. money of course that rich tech companies can afford. back to you. jackie: susan li, thank you so much. you're not going to believe this , folks. seven years after former president obama commuted alton mills life sentence, he's shot and killed a woman on a chicago expressway. also, congresswoman claudia tenney on sanctuary city new york city. the mayor eric adams now calling on other cities, not sanctuaries

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we are, and now, all of a sudden , mayor adams doesn't have the money to take care of the migrants so he's pointing at the federal government and saying unless you give me a $4 billion check, i'm going to have to send them elsewhere. >> first of all, none of them should be sanctuary cities because it's not legal under our federal government and the federal government has an obligation to protect our sovereign borders which they aren't doing under joe biden and the democrats, like mayor adams like governor kathy hochul are just playing into this farce. look, if these people were all human traffickers, and dealing fentanyl which most of them are, we have lost complete control of our southern and northern border which new york is a border state which is why i joined the northern border security caucus. we have a problem there too because we've seen the stress of the southern border push migrants up to the northern border, the cartels control both they bring people across and we are forcing our taxpayers to pay for it. when he talks about $4 billion, kathy hochul raised taxes by a billion dollars in this years

budget, the $229 billion record high budget in new york state raised to taxpayers and cost us more money so we can house, provide medical care, food for illegal migrants. not to mention legal migrants. jackie: right it's one of the reasons so many people have left this city and also the state, if they were not already feeling like it was a strain on them, they saw the handwriting on the wall. but let me ask you this because mayor adams has actually been in fairness to him he's been critical of president biden and how he's handled the southern border, but even when biden receives pressure from those in his own party, i mean, nothing changes and that's clearly because the administration doesn't want anything to change, but you know, where do we go from here because we have a president that still has to finish his term. he still has to carry out his term. nothings going to change and he says he wants to run again in 2024. >> he's got to pushback. they all do and have to say no to biden. that's the only pressure he

listens to coming from democrats . instead of pushing back democrats are calling republican s bigots for not telling our county governments up in upstate new york who have unfunded mandates coming from one party rule in albany, the people who allowed this who are taking our taxpayer dollars to fund these illegal immigrants to give them college tuition while many of our own citizens in new york don't get that right so he should pushback and say instead of asking the federal government like kathy hochul is, she's asking for more money, and she's askings, the taxpayers, to pay for it. we the taxpayers of new york. i mean, this , you have to pushback if you don't this crisis is never going to go away. you're giving incentives and whose getting rich? remember something it's all about money. the cartels have safe haven in states like new york. the cartels are getting rich. they are getting rich off the tragedy of human trafficking that's not compassion. they are getting rich off illegal drugs killing our children all over this country particularly in new york state and everywhere. it's not just in certain parts

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wonderful, illegal immigrants is actually good because we need these people to work but they can't legally work, so we have business owners on our air all of the time would say we can't hire them. we're not allowed to. final word. >> yeah, exactly. well look. we love to hire people but we want legal workers. we don't want to get sued by the federal state or local governments for having people who are not legal and to take the risk and take the burden when we're responsible if something shut happen to these people and we are going to be burying that risk. jackie: very true congresswoman claudia tenney great to see you tonight, thank you. >> thanks so much. jackie: seven years after former president obama commuted alton mills life sentence, he allegedly shot a woman on a chicago expressway. we'll discuss, but first, let's check in with our friends dagen and sean to see what they have got coming up on the bottom line >> jackie great interview with claudia tenney one of the smartest members in the house. we have a barn burner of a show freedom caucus chairman pennsylvania representative scott perry joining us as well

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♪. jackie: this is shocking story. seven years after president obama commuteed all ton mills life sentence chicago prosecutors allege he shot a woman on chicago expressway

leaving the victim brain-dead. joining me retired chicago police lieutenant john jirdo. great to have you with us. i want to get your take on this story. so many times especially here in new york city, we're seeing this. in the effort to move forward with criminal justice reform, you have got d.a.s putting criminals back on the street. when they get back on the street they do it again. they do it repeatedly. in this case you have a pardon from a president and a situation where somebody allegedly killed someone? >> right. we have prosecutors that don't want to prosecute. we have mayors that create toxic work environments that, that make officers not want to work here anymore. so we're losing, at least here in chicago we're losing 1000 police officers a year. you know, we basically have a crime pandemic going on in some major cities, especially here in chicago. when you have guys, this guy was a three-time convicted felon and for the sound bites and for,

whatever other reasons you have durbin and obama decided this guy would be a good guy to let out. now sadly for that family they have to deal the with consequences of their auctions. there will be no accountability for the politicians to do this. jackie: mills previously received a life sentence for trafficking cocaine that was his third felony. all of a sudden president says, you can go back on the street and he literally, you know, allegedly at this point, shot and killed a woman. but i want to bring this back to other cities and the problems that we across the country in america right now. there is a woman who was shoved on to a manhattan subway, into a manhattan subway car yesterday. she is in critical condition. so many people terrified to go down there. so many people have no choice. they still do it. to add insult to injury the post reporting that the mta has to raise fares before labor day. can you imagine? >> it is crazy. we don't have, there is no

accountability anymore. so, people are just running rampant being doing whatever they want. if you look at chicago we have over 1000 people have been shot so far this year, almost 230 murdered. under lightfoot, our recent mayor, her four year term, 15,000 people shot, almost 3,000 people murdered. it is happening here. it is happening in your city. it is happening out in l.a. and, i don't know what it will take for people to wake up to realize they have to go into a new correction because the politicians they're electing to office now, they keep putting back in office is not the solution. jackie: i hear you. the irony is this, new sienna poll says, as a matter of fact, 59% of new york state's voters say they feel crime is a very serious problem. this was a huge issue that lee zeldin ran on, in competition with kathy hochul. somehow she still won. the governor has power to remove the d.a. she won't do it. he would have. here we are. >> same thing here in chicago,

right? we had a defund police the candidate running against a pro-police, going to actually get things under control and the defund, defund the police candidate ends up winning by 26,000 votes. a million people stayed home decided not to vote. i don't know what it takes to wake anybody up anymore to make them pay attention but they better start paying attention because this isn't getting any better anytime soon. jackie: you bring up a great point this is huge issue. we've seen such a sea change. unless people act, have the power, take the power of voting in their hands nothing will change. john, thank you so much. >> thank you. jackie: i'm jackie deangelis in for elizabeth mccdonald. thanks for watching this special edition of "the evening edit" on fox business. liz will be back tomorrow. time for the bottom line. hi dagen, hi shaun. dagen: good to see you jackie. likewise