larry: i'll just say the governor of north carolina's terribly wrong. school choice and competition and parental involvement is so, so important. and where school choice has been tried, in blue states and red states, it is the middle class, lower middle class and the minorities who have absolutely benefited the most. and after all, how important is a good basic education? reading, writing and arithmetic, old-fashioned stuff. i'm sorry what's happening this north carolina, but it is dead wrong. on the other hand, everybody should watch the list macdonald show, it's up next right following -- there she is, she's back. [laughter] liz macdonald. elizabeth: thank you, larry. senator ted cruz made news, he said you love the federal budget

and talking about it so much that you cuddle with it and call it precious. [laughter] larry: i do. elizabeth: you must have a california king bed the size of king bed. larry kudlow, thank you so much. okay, on to the show. let the games glynn, the dirty tricks -- begin. political silly season is starting early. first we had trump's indictment by the manhattan d.a. on an expired business records violation over that stormy daniels payout. then you had antony blinken helping to orchestrate the letter from 51 intelligence officials falsely claiming the hunter biden laptop was russian disinformation. the durham probe finding the fbi had no predicate, no basis to launch the full blown trump-russia probe. that was fueled in part by hillary clinton and her team. and now this, this is being called a political stunt, a ploy. naacp's travel warning against going to florida when the naacp's chair lives in tampa, florida. this is being seen as a political hit job against governor ron desantis. he's about to announce his 2024 bid,

and look who's back with us, ashley webster has the story live this in florida. good to see you, ashley. >> reporter: great to see you, liz. probably the worst kept political secret ever but, yes, florida governor ron desantis will indeed throw his hat into the gop presidential primary ring tomorrow not in a big, flashy rally, but we're told during a conversation with elon musk on twitter. very different. analysts say the key for desantis as he gets his campaign going will be how to attract trump supporters without alienating the former president's very strong base. but we do know that the governor will have a very impressive war chest to make that case. he's going to transfer $86 million in a state pac to a presidential superpac. that will be along with another $30 million from a pro-desantis pac, so in total the governor will have around $116 million at his disposal. that is, by the way, well north of the $86 million donald trump

has in his coffers. but as always, these are very early days. the decision to run, as you point out, liz, comes as the naacp just issued a travel warning say florida and its legislature are not friendly towards minorities, but many have pointed to the florida's latest tourism numbers tell a different story the, showing a record number of tourists in the first three months of this year. nearly 38 million people, that, by the way, up almost 7% over last year's record high. and it's evidence like that that will likely be brought to the forefront by ron desantis when he potentially hits the trail sometime after 6 p.m. tomorrow evening. liz, back to you with. elizabeth: what a story. ashley, it's good to see you. thank you so much for joining us, my friend. let's welcome back to the show former assistant u.s. attorney andrew mccarthy and fox news political analyst gianno caldwell. gentlemen, thanks for joining us. gianno, what did you make of the naacp story? >> immediately i thought it was

the shameful when i dug into the details. what most folks need to understand is the naacp has been a premier organization for the advancement of african-americans and especially when you look at the name, national association for the advancement of african-americans, and now what we're seeing them do and become a political organization for the advancement of the democratic party. s the shameful, it is a stunt, but it has real ramifications. you've got 3.3 million black folks that live within the state of florida. if you're a black business owner with employees, it's the number one state for doing business. and this could potentially be a lamb to the slaughter scenario e with the naacp inflicting real harm on black people whom they claim to care about. it's shameful, it's sad. elizabeth: andrew, it's good to see you. let's watch an msnbc guest call florida a terrorist state after she went on spring break there.

by the way, the chair of the naacp lives in tampa, florida. watch this. >> and i really appreciate the naacp's guy dance on this issue. you know -- guidance. you know, i just took my family to spring break in florida recently, and i think about all of the folks that travel there for sun and joy and peace and restoration. and to be reminded that actually this is getting to the point where florida's about to be a terrorist state to many of us here in america. >> florida does lead the nation in the number of black-owned businesses. more than 15,000 according to the state. many of them rely on tourism. i'm wondering if you think this travel advisory may inadvertently harm them. elizabeth: and pew research, andrew, says florida has the biggest black immigrant population, more than half a dozen states -- >> haitians. elizabeth: andrew, was this another political dirty trick to ruin desantis' 202024 announcement -- 2024

announcement? >> well, i don't think it can the ruin it, liz. i don't think anybody's paying much attention to this. frankly, if the naacp wanted to do something helpful, they might turn their attention to new york city or philadelphia or chicago or st. louis or one of the many cities in this country that is controlled by democratic governments and where black communities are facing a surge in crime because of the lack of policing and law enforcement. that would be something the naacp could do that would actually be helpful, but i wouldn't hold my breath. elizabeth: yeah, what andrew just said, gianno, should there be a travel advisory for chicago, baltimore, san francisco, seattle? what do you think? >> i think when you consider the high rate of crime victims being black in the city of chicago, i think that would make sense. or even as an organization you're supposed to work with democrats and republicans. that's because you're looking at the agenda of african-americans. but this one-sided we're going to hang on the side of the

democratic party, therefore, we're going to attack the governor of florida just is a dog that won't hunt. it's just insane, it's asinine. elizabeth: so given what gianno just said, andrew, are we going to see even more political dirty tricks and stunts and ploys like this? first we had trump's indictment by the manhattan d.a. on an expired -- the statute of limitations had expired on the business record violation involving the stormy daniels payout. antony blinken helping to to orchestrate the letter from 51 intelligence officials falsely claiming the hunter biden laptop was russian disinformation. the durham probe finding the fbi never should have launched trump-russia. what do you think, are we going to see more political dirty tricks? what do you think? >> yeah, i would see no reason why you wouldn't. i mean, what we've seen in the last number of years is that components of the ott government, particularly -- of the government, particularly the law enforcement and intelligence side, have been leveraged by, mainly by democratic

governments. we now have an incumbent democratic government that certainly by the bureaucracy when trump was in office, those -- that apparatus of the government has been put in the service of democratic party politics. so since they've gotten away with it, it's helped hem a great deal. i don't see any reason to think that they'd stop. i think the only silver lining here is, you know, we're on to it because we've seen it now enough times. elizabeth: that's a great point. gianno, excellent points too. thanks for joining us tonight, good to see you. look who's back now, former fbi special agent nicole parker. of it's good to have you back on, nicole. what do you make of this? house oversight chair comer says he may take this fight to court, the fbi defying his subpoena to turn over documents that allegedly show then-vice president briden was involved ia bribery scheme? how is it they can defy him, nicole? >> that's a great question.

when you are working at the fbi, you operate competent human sources, and this is an fd-1023 that an individual obviously believed it was not being handled appropriately, so they brought it to the attention of congress. and thousand congress is not receiving this document that they've subpoenaed. obviously, the whistleblower is concerned, and not every document or source report converts into a case. there's a lot of intelligence that comes through the fbi. the fbi cannot open an investigation on every single piece of intelligence that comes through the fbi, but this whistleblower had a lot of courage to come forward, and they believe that this is probably not being handled appropriately, and they wanted it to be looked into further by congress. so i have to respect this whistleblower. breathe elizabeth chair comer points out the doj basically admitted this fbi document does exist, involving alleged bribery involving then-vice president biden. they didn't deny the existence

of the letter, we'd like your reaction to house oversight chair comer on all of this, and watch the media pundits too. watch this. >> the fbi refused to turn over the form 1023. i've subpoenaed this document, i've told speaker mccarthy that we need to look at contempt. it's not a classified document, so this is something that shouldn't be that hard for the chairman of the house oversight committee to obtain. >> the fbi's become a politicized institution and a political target. and this is going to the make it much more difficult for merrick garland as he goes forward with these investigations. and i don't see any way out of that anywhere in the near future. >> we have to, and it has to be moderate. >> and i'll be honest, christopher wray hides. he hides. he only goes before congress, and he doesn't defend the institution. elizabeth: so christopher wray hides, nicole. and now we have a second, a second irs whistleblower claiming the justice department is doing political meddling in the hunter biden investigation.

we've got fbi and irs whistleblowers. >> you know, this is why americans are losing trust in the criminal justice system, and i -- it's just not, it's not appropriate, it's not acceptable. it takes a lot of courage to be a whistleblower, and we saw last week what happened to some of these fbi whistleblowers that came forward. there are several thousands of agents, i would say, that are in agreement with what these whistleblowers are saying, but they don't have the ability to come forward. they're concerned about the retaliation, about losing their pensions. but there are, i would say, thousands of employees at the fbi who do believe that the fbi has been politicized, and americans deserve an unbiased, political -- you know, it shouldn't be political. the criminal justice the system should be absolutely apolitical. elizabeth: these are career irs and fbi veterans who are gettine whistleblowers but getting retaliated against, and they're bully ared with threats of criminal prussian reportedly, and this second fbi whistleblower, heavy been working on the hunter -- they've

been working on the hunter biden case for five years. they also claim what was going on was that -- they're going to testify before house ways and means, by the way, this friday -- that the doj officials, quote, had a visceral negative reaction to dissenting opinions, and every single day they were on the case was like a battle. they feared retaliation, they took it up the chain of command, but then they were attacked for doing the right thing, nicole. >> and that's not okay. you should not be attacked for doing the right thing. when you ache the an oath, you know, you're taking an oath to uphold the constitution of the united states of america, and you should be operating with the highest e level of integrity and should not be crucified for operating with integrity. if you see something, you're supposed to say something. and that is what they did, and now they're being retaliated against, and that is entirely inappropriate. elizabeth: here's what's so important when you read the whistleblower letters to congress, this is what's key. they're saying the justice department officials have a motive to retaliate because the whistleblowers are questioning

the ethics and the propriety of doj officials stonewalling on the hunter biden case and the doj official officials told the fbi and irs whistleblowers, hey, turn over your case files, give us your e-mails so records could be scrubbed, nicole? >> you know, i hope that's not what's happening. i really hope that's not that's happening. several of these people that have come forward as whistleblowers are terrified because you can be an amazing agent, and they'll find even the smallest infraction, and they'll go after you. and that is why many people are not going to come forward. and it's unfortunate because we need the honest men and women in this country, in law enforcement to come forward and speak up. if you see something, you've got to say something. elizabeth: sorry. i'm sorry to to keep jumping in. this president campaigned on being the most transparent administration in modern history. is it? >> you know, i, in my opinion,

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>> reporter: what should people be doing with their money? is there reason to sell stocks in case the market crashes? >> no. we're going to be okay. >> reporter: so that's reassuring from speaker mccarthy. and as debt limit talks continue, we'll put them aside because americans are still feeling down about the economy regardless of that. a new fed survey found 35% of americans are worse off financially than a year before. that is the highest share since the fed started asking that question in 20 the 14. 20 the 14. 40% of americans are spending more, and 64% have switched to cheaper products to try to save money. but the survey also found they're racking up -- wracking up more credit card debt and saving less. overall, 73% of adults said they were doing okay financially. might sound like a big number, three-quarters of americans, but that's down 5 points from just a year prior. the federal reserve points to

inflation, you guessed it, as the main culprit because it's eating into americans' finances. and those survey results could also explain the results of a new ap poll which found less than a quarter of americans think the economy is in good shape right now, and only a third of americans -- so only slightly more -- think that the president is doing a good job handling the economy. liz? elizabeth: wow. state of played today. grady trimble, you're terrific, thank you so much. look who's back with us, the chair of house administration, congressman brian with style, and lonski group president, john lonski. gentlemen, it's good to see you. congressman, we've got debt ceiling talks, the president leaves the country. republicans have reasonable, common sense debt ceiling plan that they're saying is maga extreme, and it brings us back to what spending was many december of 2022. it's the only plan out there. >> the president has a lack of urgency addressing this. it's why he refused to

negotiate9 for over 1 100 days, and then he left the country, and finally he's come to the table to have the conversation we should have been having months ago. we put forward a sensible, reasonable aapproach to cut spending, to him the growth of our government, save taxpayers money, grow the economy and get back our fiscal house. the president really refuses to come to the tame bl, refusing to show -- a table, refusing to show a sense of urgency, and i think it's reckless and dangerous for the american economy. elizabeth: what do you think of w4569 congressman just said, john? jamie dimon says be prepared for rates to go higher. they're talking 7% rates in the market because of this inflationary spending, and inflation's still with us. what do you think? >> well, i hope that's not the case. my goodness, if we get a 7% ped funds rate or a 7% treasury yield, we are going to have a very severe recession. so hopefully jamie dimon is wrong on that point. congressman is right. you know, right now the federal

reserve is doing quite a bit in its power to bring down inflation. my goodness, in the month of april the m2 measure of the money supply, that includes currency, bank deposits and money market funds, was down by a record deep 4.6% from a year ago. we've never seen anything like this. so we're sort of like in uncharted territory where we could have a pretty deep recession even without further rate cuts. and, by the way, the market believes that that fed funds will peak at the current 5.13%. gotta do something on the spending front, gotta do something with regulations. and there's an important aspect of this debate going on over the debt ceiling, and that is bringing back workfare to welfare recipients. it's quite a story. elizabeth: yeah. >> according to phil graham, we've had the real transfer payments given to the bottom fifth of the income distribution

rise by nearly five times since 1967. and what happened as a result? we find the percent of people working, actually working in this bottom 20% dropped from 68% in 1967 to only 36% -- elizabeth: that's a heck of a swing. that's a heck of a swing. you know, we're seeing more and more, building off what john just said, the media's not going along with the democrats' push to call spending cuts and bringing spending back to 2022 levels, five months or so ago, maga or extreme when senator biden, senator biden agreed to the same cuts. let's watch the president make even more gaffes and blunders this weekend over cutting spending. watch him call south korea's president yune president loon. watch this. >> for example, the idea that admiral -- in terms of taxes, that they refuse to -- for

example, we -- i was able to balance the budget and pass everything from the global warming bill -- anyway, i was able to cut by $1.7 billion in the first two years the deficit that we were, were accumulating. and because i was able to say to it that the 55 corporations in america that made $400 billion -- or $40 billion, $400 billion, that they pay zero in tax. zero. i've spoken at length with president loon of south korea. he came to washington of late. elizabeth: okay, it's president yune, he didn't balance the budget, he didn't consistent the deficit.. -- cut deficit. practically everything he said was wrong. >> the president's so disconnected. he refuses to address the border situation as countless people come across due to his poor

border policies. as we look at the economic policies, people are finding that their paychecks are going 15% less far than they were when he came into office. that's functioning as a tax on all americans. and then he's showing a lack of urgency to discuss the debt ceiling. we continue to the see this administration disengage. elizabeth: and now hillary clinton says the president's age is a problem. this came after a president biden slip on concrete steps while he was in japan for the g7 summit. let's get your reaction to hillary clinton here. >> there was that moment where he almost fell over coming downstairs a day or two ago. is that a concern? >> well, i mean, it's a concern for anyone. and we've had presidents who have fallen before who were a lot younger, and people didn't go into, you know, heart palpitations. but his age is an issue, and people have every right to consider it. elizabeth: and here's what -- john, let's stay on this for a

second. saudi oil minister prince binge salman, he's saying, watch out. there's a warning, they could face more opec oil production cutses at the next meeting coming up june 4th. that means gas could go up even more. they already tap out the strategic reserves. is this white house ready for all of this? >> oh, i don't think so, and i think this is one of the few times hillary clinton is correct. you know, there are a lot of economists out there that are predicting the return of oil at $100 per barrel, right now it's just over $70. if we go up to $100 per barrel, that's going to breathe new life into inflation and make matters worse for american consumers as well as american consumers' spending. elizabeth: gotcha. congressman, john lonski, thanks for joining us. the new far-left mayor of chicago, a democrat, he calls for a frightening new tax that even europe will not do. and we've got the democrat north

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single piece of equipment that is sent to ukraine. and i know that i was personally at our base down in poland that receives most of this equipment, and i know that they're accounting for it, and they know exactly what they're receiving, and they know exactly wherest the going. and so -- where it's going. i have no doubt it's getting to the right place, but the biden administration needs to step up and make sure that every single piece of equipment, every dollar that is spent by the u.s. taxpayer is accounted for and is being spent wisely. elizabeth: but, you know, the senate rejected a bill from senator josh hawley to get an inspector general to track every single tax dollar going to ukraine. how can you init's not going to corrupt -- insure it's not going to the corrupt oligarchs. >> well, look, there's nothing that assures us. i can tell you that our forces in to poland believe that, know it's not going to corrupt folks in ukraine. ukraine is actually using it for the right purposes which is to fight russian aggression.

but that being said, you have to assure that. and, yes, we need oversight at all levels to make sure that equipment is getting to the right people. and, again, the taxpayer money is being safeguarded. elizabeth: okay. so we have the pentagon, an accounting error. they overestimated the value of the weapons sent to ukraine by at least $3 billion. so let's watch nsa jake sullivan is say nothing to see here, move along. watch what he says. >> it turns out we have an additional $3 billion that we can spend to provide even more weapons to ukraine. and at the end of the day, not one penny of u.s. dollars will have gone missing or have been misallocated, it will all be provided in the form of equipment to ukraine on the battlefield. elizabeth: so an accounting error means they can spend more? send more weapons without asking congress? senior defense officials, we know they believe the flawed accounting because the weapons depreciate in value, but is this

the really an excuse to keep spending more many? -- more? >> i really don't know what the excuse is. i understand how it can happen, if somebody puts a higher value on, say, a stinger missile hand what it's actually worth, at the end of the day you can say we actually spent $3 billion more. i don't know the particulars of this, how the accounting error came about. but, again, something that needs to be investigated and make sure that every single collar that we've allocated to -- dollar that we've allocate to ukraine is spent # the right way. elizabeth: it's the attitude that no one's allowed to ask questions, that this is carte blanche. >> right. elizabeth: last fiscal year the u.s. gave more money to the ukraine than every other country come lined -- combined. we have u.s. watchdogs demanding, yes, deploy staff to the war zone. we've got to track the arms and aid up close. three inspectors general say they haven't seen evidence of fraud, but they too want boots on the ground to watch this. i mean, the thing that this is

what's needed, but why the silence about this? how can you're not allowed to talk about it? >> i don't know why you're not allowed to talk about it. it should be -- look, if you've done nothing wrong, you should be open and transparent. so it leads me to believe that, hey, is something wrong because you don't want to talk about it? that's exactly the opposite of the way it should be. if it's simply an accounting error, somebody overestimated the value of the arms you sent, open it up and let us take a look at it. if you're telling the truth, no harm down, but -- done, but the american people will have confidence in what you're doing and what's being carried out in ukraine. elizabeth: congressman jimenez, it's good to see you. >> good seeing you too. elizabeth: a new poll, the majority of americans fear that vice president kamala harris would have to take over in a second term of president biden if he wins re-election. also former chief speech writer for george w. bush bill mcgurn is coming on. we have the new far-left chicago mayor with, he's demanding a

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elizabeth: okay, you know this story. crime, high actses fueling the exodus out of america's biggest blue state cities. but now chicago's major financial hub, the chicago mercantile exchange, says it's going to pack if its bags if the new democrat mayor imposes a big fat, new tax that he now wants. lydia hu live in chicago outside a restaurant recently hit with gunfire just a few months ago. lydia, please be safe out there. ing what you got, lydia? >> reporter: hey there, liz. that's right, today, earlier today the chicago mercantile exchange ceo, terry duffy, explained that if the new mayor, brandon johnson, makes good on his plans to implement new taxes including a financial transaction tax the, he may have no choice but to move the mercantile exchange out of the windy city. now, that's an option for for

big businesses, but what we understand from talking to smaller businesses here in chicago, they don't have the option to move. we talked to the executive director of one local business association who represents hundreds of businesses right in this neighborhood. listen to this. >> small businesses want to stay in our city, they're dedicated to our city. they have their families here, their roots here. they don't have as much capital the, so they can't just pick up and leave. >> reporter: crime in chicago is up 42% over a year ago making it very difficult for small businesses to continue to operate. here's an example. take a look at this incredible video. it shows a shooting that happened at this restaurant, a drive the-by. -- drive-by. bullets raining down on patrons that were eating dinner on a friday evening. one pen was injured. police tell me no one arrested, no one in custody. that business association says they've been asking for the city to the install more police cameras. they got no support from mayor

lori lightfoot, but they're hoping to get a different response from mayor brandon johnson. we reached out to mayor johnson's office for comment on the plans for police cameras, whether there are any plans to install some more. no response just yet, liz. but in the meantime, we do know residents continue to flee the city of chicago just like the businesses. more than 80,000 residents have left between 2020 and 2022, also a problem for the businesses here in the city. back to you. elizabeth: lydia, you make a great point, put this police cameras, and they won't do that. such a shortage of common sense. lydia hu, thank you so much. let's bring in former chief speech writer for george w. bush, bill mcgurn. bill, you heard all that, and now brandon johnson, the new mayor, he wants a new financial transaction ax tax on financial assets? even europe said no to this. the cme is threatening to move and they won't even put in police cameras? what are they doing over theresome. >> they're doing what democrats

do, tax. they don't believe there are any consequences for raising taxes. and, you know, when they talk about fair share, you know what fair share means? not 10%, not 20%, not 50%, it means more. we want more. whatever you're paying more -- paying now, we want more. elizabeth: even the cme ceo terry duffy vealed his wife was the victim of a carjacking in chicago. chicago has 41% more crime last year than 2021, up something like 43. citadel left, boeing, caterpillar left. finish. >> yeah. they're all up. and the reason they're up is they don't want to prosecute. they have all these oid ideologies that put social justice first, and so, you know, criminals are not stupid. they're having a field day. but after a while, your victims run out, you know? they leave or something. you can't go on forever. elizabeth: yeah.

here's the other problem, the u.s. is not fixing crime. it's focused on all sorts of things, right? different distractions. china is teaching its students quantum fuzzics, complex -- physics, complex math, a.i. bill, we want your reaction. we've got school choice. it's all over the country, at least half a dozen states joining arizona and florida to do this, to give parents the money to send their kids to private and charter schools. let's get your reaction to north carolina democrat governor roy cooper declaring a state of emergency after his own state legislature passed a school choice bill. watch this. >> i'm declaring this state of emergency because you need to know what's happening. if you care about public schools in north carolina, it's time to the -- to take immediate action and tell them to the stop the damage that set back our schools for a generation. here's what's happening in the next few weeks: their private

school voucher scheme will pour your tax money into private schools that are unaccountable to the public. elizabeth: okay. he sends his own daughter, sent his own daughter to private school. he's not calling a state of emergency for failing public schools though, bill. >> right. s the interesting, he talks about the fate of the schools and not the students, you know? the public school is fine for him, i mean, the private school was fine for the him, but god forbid over people start exercising that right. and it's an emergency. that state of emergency is a humiliation. it's just a white flag knowing his veto was overridden and north carolina's going become, like, eight or nine in the number of states that offer full school choice. elizabeth: you know, jon jonathan turley points this out, the north carolina governor -- rather than address the concerns of parents, you know, he's

striking out at the, you know, the shift to the demand for school progress and school choice, right? so that's not -- he's not listening to what the parents are saying. >> no. he's been -- look, they overrode his veto to pass a 12-week ban on abortion. they're going to pass tax cuts that he opposes, and they're also going to the pass this school choice. they're protecting life, giving parents more say, letting people keep more of their money. no wonder he's opposed to it. that's what democrats are opposed to. elizabeth: bill mcgurn, thanks for joining us. it's good to see you. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: coming up, joe concha. we have a new poll, the majority of americans fear vice president kamala harris would have to take over in a president biden second term. you won't believe the percentage of democrats who fear that too. but we want to check in with dagen and sean.

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consult your doctor before starting on omnipod. liz: joining us now, "the hill" media columnist joe concha. good to see you again. what's the fallout of this? we have a new "harvard-harris poll." over 60% of americans fear vice president kamala harris would have to end up taking over for president biden if he wins a second term and 35%, more than three out of 10 democrats believe biden would not be able to serve a full second term. what's the fallout of this? >> oh, the fallout there is no plan b, right? that joe biden will be 86 years old if he completes his second term. 70% of americans do not want him to run for president again. liz, number one reason. he's too old. look not saying everybody that is 80 acts that way, like he is 80 going on 95 at this point. if you look at his schedule today, only public event he had was having lunch with kamala

harris. that is it. that is why so many people don't want joe biden to run. oh, he may have to step down at some point. you have president harris 2020 candidate didn't get to 2020. dropped out in december of 2019 because voters on democratic side rejected her so much. it's hot mess and dumpster fire. liz: there is this what does it mean for the 2024 race? we have op-ed in "washington post" offering brutal details on nine members of president biden's family getting millions of dollars to foreign sources over the last decade including three children. what goods or services did the biden family members and grandchildren provide to get the money? how will this hit the race? >> exactly how did the guidance counselor and halle biden back in delaware get tens of thousands of dollars for services rendered to a chinese energy company? what about all the services rendered in ukraine?

that is the thing, no one can name what the value add is here. rasmussen poll says, seven out of 10 believe hunter biden is getting preferential treatment in the investigations. half of voters believe it is a very serious scandal. 40% say it will lead to joe biden's impeachment. this is not going away. for some conservatives fatigue is setting in. this investigation started five years ago. there is no resolution. you get the feeling you and i will talk about this in october 2024 how the investigation is still ongoing. like they use it say in the wendy's commercials. where is the beef? liz: this is gaining traction, because the washington post is saying is it coincidental so many foreign entitities gave large amounts of money and gifts to biden family members, no one involved, promised believed are or insinuated joe biden would ever return the favor? you can imagine voters will start asking the same questions.

>> absolutely. the trick here is that the.has to be connected. did joe biden while he was vice president, while he was in power did all of these donations in kind to the biden family, call it compensation, face what it was, did he actually change some sort of a u.s. policy as a result of all the money coming into the family. that what has to be proven. that is what james comer has to present. that is what the media should investigate this more instead of treating like like the third rail of journalism, the fourth estate, thou shall not touch. if wash tan post is printing op-eds maybe it is getting traction. >> when democrats, democrats scream, vaughn can trump, trademarks in china, jared currenter in profiting from chinese investors, there is no sortage, "washington post" says there is no shortage of investigations into the biden family.

biden's reflexive comment, my son did nothing wrong will not cut it in the 2024 race. final word. >> hope it doesn't cover it. journalists have to ask the press secretary every day, the president rarely takes questions needs to be pressed on this. i have a feeling that will not happen, liz, go figure. liz: what if he was pressed on it? will he say the same thing? can that go on, my son did nothing wrong? >> seen the same answer for three years. my son did nothing wrong. i'm confident he will be cleared. same thing. he doesn't want to go into it any way, shape or form that's for sure. liz: joe concha thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald on "the evening edit" on fox business. we'll watch all the business, and news, that affect your family at the kitchen tables. now time for my buddies dagen and sean. good to be back. dagen: good to see you. sean: welcome back, emac. liz: thank you.

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