larry: message to republicans for next year election, if you want to win, you need a strong economic growth and prosperity message. it's that simple. message to everybody, please watch liz macdonald, up next. elizabeth: thank you so much, larry. you're so right. 2024, the race is going to go right lu america's kitchen tables. that's exactly what it's about. thank you so much, larry. breaking news, new york city's far-left democrats are out of control. they just voted to slam key bank, capital one, wells fargo

and pnc bank for not doing enough on social justice and climate change. new york city democrats saying these banks will no no to longer, they will not get any more new new york city deposits. here's the problem, it's not their money, it's taxpayer money. america now at a turning point. polls from quinnipiac, monmouth, cnn, abc, we've got gallup, there's a growing voter backlash against where the far left and the white house are taking america. voters are not better off than they were four years ago. and this story, newt gingrich says the current scandals of corruption and political meddling at the fbi and irs, whistleblowers are pointing this out, this is all being done they say to benefit biden white house. newt gingrich says this is, quote, worse than watergate. plus, new details on how the irs allegedly retaliated against a journalist blowing the whistle on what's been going on. gerri willis is live in new york with the story. >> reporter: that's right. the irs opened a tax

investigation into journalist matt taibbi on christmas eve of last year. it was a saturday. three weeks after he exposed documents showing government officials pressuring twitter to censor content. on his twitter account yesterday, taibbi said the details came from a new letter to the irs commissioner by house judiciary chair jim jordan. the journalist said the move was meant to intimidate. listen. >> this is quite brazen, what they're doing. i mean, they had to know that this was going to the come out. also visiting me on my, at my home on the day i'm testifying before congress. that shows you that they're probably not terribly worried about the optics of all this, which i think is even more concerning. >> reporter: the sensitive documents taibbi exposed came from the state department, the pentagon and the cia. for its part, the irs told the committee it was trying to insure the reporter wasn't a victim of identity theft. and that they had tried to contact him earlier by letter.

now, taibbi said neither he nor his accountant received those letters. house judiciary chairman jim jordan, he isn't buying it. listen. >> maybe the fbi's going to come forward and tell us, oh it's just one big coincidence. okay, but i kind of doubt it. and everyone i've talked to about that fact pattern says there is no way this was chance. the had to be deliberate. they were intentionally targeting the guy who elon musk picked to do the twitter files and give us all kinds of valuable information. >> reporter: and here's the kicker, liz, taibbi was pound to to owe no money -- found to to owe no money. in fact, irs concluded it owed him money. when we asked the i are rs about all of this this, they old the us federal law prohibits the agency from commenting on taxpayer matters. his? elizabeth: thank you so much. joining us now, congressman jeff van drew and congressman russell fry. gentlemen, it's good to see you. we've never seen in modern history so many whistleblowers

stepping forward to talk about malfeasance and corruption. let's first get your reaction to 14-year veteran, he's an irs supervisor special agent gary shackly for the first time speak out telling cbs he personally witnessed doj officials interfering in the hunter biden investigation in order to help president biden. watch this. >> there was multiple steps that were slow-walked at the direction of the department of justice. >> had you ever encountered that before? >> i have not, no. these deviations from normal process and each and every time it seemed to always benefit the subject. it was my red line meeting. it just got to that point where that switch was turned on, and i just couldn't sigh hence my conscience -- silence my conscience anymore. i don't want to do many any of this. i took an oath of office, and when i saw the agrege with juiceness of some of these things, it no longer became a

choice. it's something i feel like i have to do. elizabeth: congressman van drew, he oversaw the team at the irs of a dozen criminal investigators that the doj officials just disbanded. what's your reaction? >> well, first of all, my reaction is that he's a patriot and a true american. second reaction is we have never seen anything like this in the history of america. this is worse than watergate in aggregate. literally, these agencies including the i are rs -- the irs at the top levels, not the working people, but at the top levels have become giant dung heaps of corruption. they immediate to be chained. agency -- they need to be changed. agencies that were supposed to be protecting americans now need protection from -- we need to protect americans from them. it's unbelievable. and you've got to restructure. elizabeth: so what congressman van drew just said. congressman fry, mr. shackly is

scheduled to testify behind closed doors tomorrow for house ways and means. whistleblowers say doj officials demanded the case files to cover up their own unethical behavior. if you were sitting on ways and means, what would you ask them, mr. shackly? >> well, i would ask him, first of all, why, you know, with him and what he's done for this country what steps were not followed? walk us through those protocols. he laid those out. obviously, he's come forward very bravely into the public square, but what steps were mishandled and whom you dealing with. i think we need to get to the bottom of this this because, congressman van due is right. we've never seen -- van due is -- van drew is right. the fbi is so willing to throw any uncorroborated evidence against a sitting president, but they are protecting, it looks like, this president. so where's the rub? what's the difference here, and why are we doing this within our government?

elizabeth: okay. so the other thing too given what congressman fry just said, house oversight chair choamer was with us last night. he sent a letter warning fbi director wray he's going to hold him in contempt of congress if he doesn't turn over a document an fbi whistleblower says details alleged bribery involving then-vice president biden and a porn national. the fbi says they can't -- a foreign national. couldn't they just redact and black out names? >> yeah, they could. they could redact and give us the pertinent information. and secondly, you know, we this judiciary and russell fry knows this too, congressman fry, we've had conversations with the fbi and asked them over and over again for pertinent information, but we get a piece of paper or or multiple pieces of paper that are 98% redacted, nothing that you can read or use on it. there is really -- the collusion's not with trump, the

collusion is with these agencies, the department of justice, the cia, the fbi. again, i just really want people to think about this, agencies that were there, that are there to protect americans, americans now need protection from them. our country's going astray here with their leadership. it must change. we need major restructuring in these agencies. elizabeth: yeah. the voter polls show that. congressman fry, we learned more from mr. comer, he says this fbi document details the timeline of june 2020 the, it involved $5 million. other things he's saying is the fbi told congress, lawmakers it had these confidential human resources reports on biden in the period, that there are a lot of source materials coming in on what's going on. what can you tell us about what this all is about, what's going on? can you el us any more? >> i think the chairman's exactly right.

these aren't, this is not classified, could you just redact the names in some of this sensitive material. but the bottom line is this: the fbi's not cooperating. we set their budgets. we set the expectations of this agency. hay work for the american people, and they need to be brought to heel. i think chairman comer's been very clear about this, very firm with director wray that if he because not comply, that contempt is on its way. it's not something we want to do, but they work for the american people. elizabeth: got it. congressmen, thank you for joining us tonight. we're going to stay on this story. >> thank you. elizabeth: let's welcome back g gop pollster lee carter and hal lambert. mr. lambert, thanks for joining us, you're a former trump donor, you now endorse ron desantis. lee, the fallout of the meltdown and the glitches of ron desantis the launching his 2024 campaign on twitter. is this a desantis problem or a twitter problem? >> both. look, i think that it was a very important moment for ron desantis last night.

he really needed to reset his campaign. he's had a very unfortunate two months where he went from neck and neck with donald trump in the polls to trailing between 20 the-30 points. it's not a good situation. i think his hope last night was to do a twitter live interview with elon musk, show the business side of him, the capitalist side of him, the freedom side of him, the free speech side of him, all of those things that people really liked about to begin with. unfortunately, that message wasn't able to get out last night, and i think that's going to hurt him. he's going to be trying now, continuing to try and have a moment, but his big moment, i think, fizzled. elizabeth: so what lee just said, you know, people like desantis, hal, because he bullets through, he doesn't care a what the media says. he's sticking to the what he feels will fix country what's appeal of ron desantis to you? >> well, first of all, i want to say i don't think twitter delay and some of the technical issues were that huge of a deal. the number of people trying to dial in to watch that or at least, you know, log in to watch

that is what cause it. there were millions of people trying to watch. so that overloaded the twitter capabilities, and that's what caused the initial glitch. but he went on -- elizabeth: do we know it was millions? we saw it was 600,000 trying to get in. >> no. there -- can well -- the. [laughter] that's not what we're seeing on our end. i will say this, the message that ron desantis the put out while he was on that interview and subsequently later on fox, i think those messages really resonate. so this is just the very beginning. the polls, it's interesting you're abe to be polls, i mean, he hasn't even entered the race until yesterday, and so we're going to see what happens with these polls. i think there's going to be a narrowing pretty quickly between now and the next month or so as he gets out there. elizabeth: well, that's interesting. there's a ec call difficulty there. we should point out trump currently leads desantis by about 30 points in the real clear politics average of polls. voters are talking about what desantis the was saying, and we're talking to voters. what he was saying was clear or and correct and not the gaffes, not the gaslighting, not

deceptions coming out of the white house. let's watch desantis. watch. >> i'm running to lead a great american comeback. our decline as a country is not inevitable, it is a choice. and i think we can choose a better pathway. it's a national emergency. we'll mobilize all resources to construct the border wall,. >> shut the border down. we're not going to be entertaining asylum claims for people coming across the border illegally. we're going to have things like remain in mexico so we don't is have the incentives to come illegally. we coneed to hold these mexican drug cartels accountable. the status quo is not acceptable, and we are going to the make sure that we constitutionalize this government. these agencies are ole out of control, there's no accountability, and we are going to bring that in a very wig way -- big way. if an agency is engaging in conduct that is outside the realm of what is legal or you think it's not good for the public interest, then you can remove the funding for those, for those operations.

elizabeth: you heard that, lee. what do you think, lee carter? >> look, i think he went into a lot of detail on a lot of different topics, but the thing that is most less plant to the american people is -- resonant to the american people is what he's done this florida. it was a thriving economy when everybody else was struggling, and people want to hear less about some of the issues that he's dealing with on the woke wars and more about how he's going to improve our day-to-day life. i think he had a lot of messages that were really, really positive last night. when he talk about not bowing to the elite, but rather practicing more common sense, i think that's going to resonate with a lot of folks, but this message has on to be the repeat frequently and often, and not everybody knows the ron desantis of florida. he's addressing the problems that are most important to the american people; namely, the economy, immigration, crime and safely. and he's endone that this florida, he -- in florida, he's going to have to prove that on the national stage. elizabeth: hal, the white house messaging is failing.

biden's rating approval, approval rating on the economy is now in the mid 30s. it's a backlash against the far left and white house agenda. desantis, to the what lee is saying, he's saying florida has lowest jobless rate among the 10 most populist states, it has a $ -- 20 the billion surplus. it looks like he's got a message, but the question is the, will it get out? will that message get out? >> oh, it'll absolutely get out. i mean, governor desantis is going to be hitting all the early states. you're going to see him in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, ask he's to going to have the money to get his message out. so you're exactly right, lee. i mean, he will have to continue to put that message out because people know who he is, but they don't really know his record. and so that's what he's going to get out there and talk about. i think as he does that, these poll numbers are going to turn, and you're going to see a big change. elizabeth: got it. thanks for joining us on the. we're staying on this new trend, it's happening now in

america, more and more polls show the far left's agenda, the white house's agenda is backfiring with americans. voters don't want it. and this setback, president biden's unconstitutional end run is hitting a wall, the end run around congress is hitting a wall in congress. he's frying to change the u.s -- trying to change the u.s. economy with the stroke the of a pen. more consumers say no nationwide to companies going political, they don't like it. the backlash against target, north face, nike, bud light and calvin klein. and this breaking news coming in, more than two dozen black lives matter chapters slam the national group. why? allegations of millions of dollars in misappropriated funds. where'd the money go? tens of millions of dollars there. plus, newt gingrich, we're stay thing on story, we're going to say why he says the current scandals of the biden white house are worse than watergate. we've got congress congresswoman adam tennessee -- anna paulina

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elizabeth: now two credit rating agencies -- excuse me, credit rating firms, fitch and dbs morningstar, they're threatening to downgrade the u.s. why? the debt ceiling talks are getting botched in d.c. house gop merely wants to the bring spending back down to just 2022 levels, just five months ago. that was already at record highs because of the pandemic. federal reserve bank officials in san francisco and elsewhere, also in chicago, warn all of this spending is igniting inflation. that's to have -- torching through your earnings, setting on fire your savings under this white house. aishah hasnie is live with the story on capitol hill. >> reporter: good evening, elizabeth. the has been a roller coaster, these debt ceiling negotiations. we are nowhere close to a deal right now. in fact, on the right representative patrick mchenry just told fox news that we have

serious issues, and it's going to take some time. the thing is we are running out of time. on the left, democrats say they do not want to just rubber stamp anything that the president sends their way. but the big take i want you to the keep in mind here -- takeaway -- is that progressives this week said they would not draw a red line when it came to a potential biden-mccarthy deal which is good news for negotiators right now. so progressives boast quite a bit of votes, more than 100 voting members strong. they're against any potential work requirements as well as spending cuts at fiscal year 2022 levels. and caucus chair pramila joy e pal even suggested -- jayapal even suggested americans would protest in the streets if those items made it into a deal. when i pressed her on it, she said she would not draw a red line. watch. the white house and republicans come to an agreement tomorrow, let's say, and there are one or two items that you are not happy with, are you willing to vote

against that? >> well, we don't draw red lines about what a final bill is. what we have said is there are lee proposals that republicans have put on the table that are unacceptable. >> reporter: now, speaker mccarthy is also getting pressure from his side too, some republicans now asking him to hold the line adding border security to the mix as well as repealing that money to the irs and demanding that secretary yellen show her math when it comes to that june 1st deadline. the house is gone, elizabethth, but negotiators are going to stick around this weekend and keep on working through this. elizabeth? elizabeth: great reporting, good to see you. thank you so much. look who's back with us, wall street pro nancy tengler. i've never seen a congress so out lunch, a democratic party that's so off the rails. they're talking about downgrading the u.s., nancy. that would be the second time in just a dozen years. are the democrats really going to normalize? it'd be really bad. the first time when s&p did this

under the obama white house, interest rates were at zero. now rates are going to 7%. it's katie bar the door with inflation with this party. >> yeah. liz, it's breathtaking how ill-informed they are from an economic standpoint. i mean, i understand that this is politics, but a downgrade would be devastating, and the market would with racket accordingly -- would react accordingly which would not be positive. and i think we have a group of individuals who have unrealistic spending and their rhetoric is super sharp. to really understand the amount of hand our the spending -- mandatory spending, it's about 71% of the federal budget. defense spending's only 12%, and when you add in the interest payment, it takes you up to about 8%, and those are going to rise. the notion that we're going to continue arguing over this issue while putting the credit at risk of the united states and damaging, potentially, americans who are tired of this debt. $32 the trillion in debt in a gdp environment of $25 trillion

are. that's, that happened only one other time in our history, and that was world war ii. these are things of a banana republic. elizabeth: yeah. we hear you loud and clear, nancy. we've got democrat dean phillips, there may be a growing split in the democrat party. he's suggesting, yeah, a freeze might be the way to go to get a deal done. again, both the san francisco fed, the chicago fed warn government spending is igniting inflation. that's slamming voters. this 2024 election is right through people's kitchen tables. we've got real earnings after inflation down 7% under this white house. recession is around the corner. gdp growth has flatlined. let's, you know, speaker mccarthy's saying the pandemic is over, but democrats still demand wartime, massive pandemic spending. let's get your reaction to this. watch. >> what the people should know, what the american people should know, that we are not taking any hostages here. default is not an option. >> republicans continue to govern in a way that is

clueless, callous and with great contempt and i would say god areless because faith without works is dead. >> we're working to find common ground with the other side of the aisle for the good of the american people whenever and wherever possible. but we've also made clear that we will fight extremism whenever necessary. this is a default crisis that is manufactured maga madness. elizabeth: you know, nancy, voters are saying the rhetoric is madness. 45% of democrats say cut spending. 60% overall say cut spending. biden's approval rating on the economy in the tank. what do you make of this rhetoric about hostage-taking, extremism, maga? are people believing that? >> i don't think so. i think the poll numbers would argue that they're not, liz. and i think most americans understand that by speaker mccarthy asking to keep spending flat or just slightly below last year, you know, we spent $6.3 trillion, 6.3 trillion. so i think there's probably just

a little, teeny bit of fat in there that can be cut out. for example, as you mentioned, the covid funds that have gone unused. and this insistence of no work requirement for benefits is just disastrous for the economy because we've got a labor shortage. [laughter] so i just don't, i don't think it's working, and i think they're sounding more and more desperate. but in the meantime, you know, we all sit by and watch. elizabeth: yeah. and people don't like the feelingst the out of control. but the white house is doubling down. they still want more spending. the other thing too is people don't like seeing the economy changed with the stroke of a pen with the white house circumventing congress like with the electric bus push. ann arbor, michigan, the school buses to the take children, the electric school buses are not working. philadelphia, we saw this many california too, the electric school buses that they want are not working. this is our school children

we're talking about. >> right. and then just wait til this summer when we've got, you know, rolling brownouts in california. i live in nevada, so i'm on nevada side of lake tahoe, but we are also punished by their fires that cause, you know, the rolling brownouts and then try charging your tesla. but more importantly, there's people that need things like, you know, breathing machines, oxygen and other devices, and that's the big tragedy because there's plenty of resources many california. it's just been mismanaged. elizabeth: great insights, great perspective from the one and only nancy tengler. thanks for joining us. >> good to see you. elizabeth: we're staying on this story, newt gingrich says the current scandals in the biden white house are, quote, worse than watergate. we also have florida congresswoman anna paulina luna saying adam schiff should be fined $16 million for his trump-russia lies. more democrats are being called out over misleading america. we've got "fox news sunday"

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elizabeth: okay, fox business breaking the news that the white house is now moving to the stop the biden white house new mortgage rule that would make home buyers who did the right thing, home buy yores who bade -- buyers who paid their bills, they would be forced to the pay even more fees to subsidize riskier mortgage borrowers. grady trimble is live on capitol hill with the story. grady. >> reporter: a bill to to undo that new mortgage fee structure just passed through the house financial services committee on a party-line vote. republicans support that bill and oppose this new fee structure which went into place on the 1st of the month. it raised fees for borrowers who

have good credit taking out a mortgage while lowering fees for those with bad credit scores. the congress minnesota behind the bill to reverse the rule, warren davidson, tells me it's just plain unfair. >> you could have someone who is low income but very responsible, manages a tight budge, pays their bill on time, can if they could get mitt with a higher fee and subsidize somebody who maybe has more money but doesn't pay their bills on time. it is a socialist recontribution of wealth, it is that simple -- redistribution. >> reporter: the congressman hopes his bill will pick up more support from democrats over time, but in a hearing this week the top democrat on the committee took aim at republicans. >> my colleagues on the other side of the aisle appear on the more concerned about protecting the well-being even if it -- wealthy even if it comes at the expen of -- pence of those with less intergenerational wealth.

>> reporter: and at that same hearing where you heard from congresswoman maxine waters, the head of the agency that put this new mortgage rule into place also defended it. so even after this criticism from republicans about the new structure, it doesn't sound like they plan to reverse it, liz, unless this bill or something like it passes. liz? elizabeth: so you know what's really weird, grady? more americans are seeing that this white house is changing the u.s. economy with the stroke of a pen. outside and circumventing congress, right? >> reporter: exactly. and there are a lot of questions about the timing of this, liz. we're already seeing interest rates going up i because of what the fed is doing. on top of that, we're seeing interest rates rise because of this debt ceiling dilemma. and so you add on new fees for home buyers who have done the right thing, paid their bills on time like you said, and that's why republicans are oppose this. they really have a problem with this new fee structure which raises fees for people taking

out mortgages who have good credit scores, lowerses the fees for people who might have bad credit scores and didn't pay their bills on time. elizabeth: grady trimble, thanks for joining us. let's bring in columnist charlie hurt on all of this. charlie, voters more and more don't like the correction of -- the direction of america. they are unhappy. you see anytime abc polls, quinnipiac and gallup, you see it in cnn polls. the majority, 60, 70% don't like the direction. so you heard grady's story, and now we've got the house gop also passing a ruling -- a resolution, rather, to stop president biden's pandemic era student loan bailout. that's at the supreme court. where do you think that goes? >> well, i know where the regular, average americans are on all of this, and, man, if the biden administration if doesn't realize the degree to which this election is going to the wind up being about economics, they're going to lose worse than we could possibly predict.

because, of course, exactly the frustrations you're talking about where you have, you know, you have the administration basically mocking people by forcing regular americans, many people who when couldn't even afford to pay the tuition for their own children, forcing them to pay tuitions or pay back tuitions for other people's children. or in the case of this, these mortgage adjustments for lower income families, it is fundamentally unfair. and when you, you know, if you've spent your entire life trying to build up good credit and you go in and buy a house, you know, with your good credit and suddenly you're assessed with $15,000 or $25,000 over the life of your loan to pay for somebody else's terrible credit, it is so fundamentally unfair, but it's not just unfair. these people actually feel it. they feel it in their

pocketbook. they feel it every time they write their mortgage check. and i really do believe that this administration's completely oblivious to to all of that. they don't care. the hardship that people feel. and you get a guy like donald trump and, you know, maybe ron desantis as well once he starts talking more about economics, you get this environment where how you get a good politician talking about the economics here and, man, it gets pretty, it gets pretty hairy for an incumbent like joe biden. elizabeth: and it's also does the progressive left understand the history of the nation, the history of america? let's show quickly senator ted cruz in his twitter fight with alexandria ocasio-cortez. the congresswoman seemed not to know about the history of racism in the democrat party. you know, progressive left's agenda -- charlie, it looks like they're backfiring. we had defund the police, right, that led to a is surge in crime. then biden circumventing congress with green energy

mandates forcing everyone to the pay more and putting a strain on the power grid. there's a lot of stuff happening, charlie. >> yeah. and every single one of these things whether it's gas prices at the pump or groceries, inflation or defund the mis, all of these things -- the police, all of these things can be tied directly to the policy priorities of the biden administration. so it's not a long stretch to to come up with a campaign ad tying them to the thing that causes people to be most miserable in life, and yet they seem to be completely oblivious to the it. and then you have the president going to a college talking about how white supremacy is greatest threat the facing america today. he's clearly just so out of touch that he's coming up with this stuff, but he's so desperate. he can't run on anything else. he can't run on the economy, he can't run on safety in this country, he can't run on gas prices or energy independence. finish so he has to run on this

really gross, low, disgusting and dishonest campaign of, oh, everybody -- all white people are racist, america's racist and they're coming for you. that's their campaign. elizabeth: and it's not reality. it's not the truth. charlie, thank you so much. you're going to stick around. okay, more consumers nationwide say no to companies going political like bud light, target, nike and more. and also this, did you see this story about a protester who threw a brick at the podium where the democrat san francisco mayor london breed was talking about stopping drug crimes? we're going to stay on this story too, newt gingrich says the current scandals in the white house are, quote, worse hand watergate. we've got florida congresswoman anna paulina luna says adam schiff should be fine $16 million for his trump-russia lies. all coming up on "the evening edit." ♪

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cancerous than watergate ever wasesome. >> yeah. i think a lot of this is kind of a rorschach test. look at the durham report which part of the media will say it proves what we said was happening all along, others say this report raises serious questions about whether the fbi operated with some kind of political bias. there are questions about the investigations into hunter biden. they have been ongoing with the u.s. other than. the white house has repeatly said and the a.g. that we're going to keep our hands off. we've got colleagues like andy mccarthy, a longtime federal prosecutor, who says this is the kind of case where you put in a special counsel. it takes the questions out, it takes the appearance of bias out, so why won't they appoint a special counsel? why not do some of these things that may help people feel more confidence that these things will be handled in a politically neutral way. elizabeth: yeah, that's right. what you're saying. because we've got -- we haven't seen, i, we -- i can't recall

when we've seen so many fbi and irs whistleblowers talking about doj, fbi, irs officials stonewalling the criminal investigation into hunter biden, talking about biden family corruption, talking about, you know, gi documents detailing -- fbi documents detail thing bribery by vice president biden. we haven't seen so many whistleblowers talking to congress. at one point jim jordan said there were 17 out of the fbi. >> yeah. you referenced that fbi document that's alleged to exist that may have some allegation by someone that there was some kind of connection with foreign payments to the former -- well, the current president but when he was vice president. finish the fbi is not going to turn that over. they're fighting with lawmakers saying it's not in our interest or national security to turn fit over. meanwhile, laugh -- law makers have admitted maybe that's not what it says, but we can't tell until we get our hands on it. but we have speculation when we don't have the actual document, and it's sounding that the fbi's

not going to give it to them. we do have so many people that have come forward at least according to members of congress. the whey that whistle -- way that whistleblowers are categorized and handled is very specific. there are some some on the other side of the aisle who don't even want to classify these people as whistleblowers. if you to do, it kicks in certain protections. there are penalties for harassing or retaliating. so when the two sides can't even agree on if there is a whistleblower or not, it means more combustible argument here in washington. elizabeth: they treated the whistleblower on trump with kid gloves, and now they're saying they don't deserve protection. >> and, shannon, that fbi document, they could just redact the names if they're worried about sources. let's move on this. what was your reaction when you heard congresswoman ann that paulina luna introduce deuce a resolution saying the u.s. should fine adam schiff $16

million for his allegations about trump-russia. >> he preetedly said there was -- repeatedly said there was evidence, and we would expect him as a member of the intel committee and leadership positions that he had that he would know more, and he certainly went on a number of shows and led people to the that conclusion that he had seen things the rest of us hadn't seen, and he referenced evidence. it raises a lot of questions. i don't know how far she'll get with that resolution. maybe in the gop-controlled house. i don't know that tests actually going to hay a finger on him, but it sparks conversation over whether he was 100% accurate at the way he was portraying what he knew. elizabeth: shannon bream, you're terrific. thanks for joining us tonight. >> good to see you. elizabeth: kat timpf are coming up. -- is coming up. we've got more consumers nationwide saying no to companies going political, talking bud light, target, nike and more.

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what. what is remarkable about san francisco is, there is, you see this kind of stuff in all areas of the city. whereas, other areas like chicago, there are some nicer areas and that sort of thing. san francisco even though it isn disgusting all over the street. liz: a great point you're making. can't say what is all over the street. kat, banana republic closing downtown location. nordstrom leaving. h&m. anthropology, it is a retail desert. we broke the news, new york city, far left democrats, keybanc, capital one, wells fargo, pnc, you will not get anymore deposits of new york city government money. they are not doing enough on climate and sewing change.

it is not their money, kat. >> it is our money. they take your money, spend it on whatever they want. a lot of times, not spent on feeding a hungry baby. they spend it on corrupt initiatives. looking at new york, i pay a ton of taxes i don't know what exactly they do with it. it is also very gross and very expensive to live here largely because of the huge tax burden we all have. liz: that is exactly what is going on. kat, more and more consumers are saying what are you doing, the far left? more and more companies are going along with that. they're going political, bud light, target, nike, calvin klein. now stores are giving away bud light beer for free. anheuser-busch is doing rebates. anheuser-busch sales down 25%. target lost 9 million-dollars in market cap. the far left agenda in cities going through corporations and it ain't working. >> i think it is really

interesting when it comes to alcohol brands specifically, trying to be, see themselves at the forefront of you know, being supportive of all these causes. like, you're alcohol. you know what i mean? liz: right. >> when you drink alcohol, a lot of times you do it to consider what is going on in the world less than you would if you weren't drinking alcohol. that to me is probably the funniest part. liz: you're not really socially responsible on alcohol. >> when you do something socially irresponsible as you call it on alcohol, how did that happen, you were drinking alcohol? it is the opposite. liz: the other story came up as we talk about this in the same vein 26 local black lives local chapters slamming the national group. you're first appropriating donations, wasting tens of millions of dollars. kat, they had $42 million. they banked that. now they have a nine million dollar deficit.

where did the money go? exactly, they capitalized on people to feel like they were doing something, giving money to an organization for an issue they cared about. also setting it up if you were asking questions where the money was going, you were a racist so it was kind of this perfect storm that allowed for this to happen. it is really sad. it is really unfortunate. it is really gross. it absolutely should be called out. liz: kat timpf, you're terrific. have you on the show real soon. i love your book. i'm almost done with it a great read. >> thank you. liz: i'm elizabeth macdonald. thank you thank you for watching fox business. we break the news you want to try to help out america. time for "the bottom line." hi dagen and sean. dagen: hi, liz. liz: good to see you. dagen: good to see you. ♪. dagen: a great evening to you. i'm dagen mcdowell. sean: i'm sunintroduce if