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larry: all right folks, for some reason, you can't catch kudlow at 4:00 p.m. starting today, you can catch us again at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on fox business and my last word is stop target's campaign and promotional help for these groups. they hate america, hate american history, hate israel, anti- semetic stuff, and, go with your eyes by watching liz macdonald up next. liz: thank you, we'll take those votes, larry, appreciate it good to see you. okay we've got a lot of action coming out of washington. house oversight is launching contempt hearings for fbi director wray over not turning
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over a document that chair comer says details were bribery by then-vice president biden and democrats now caught in realtime spreading disinformation about all of this. we've got a new poll voters say yes it is time to clean out washington. tonight, congressman greg steube y, miranda divine, bill mcgurn on the "wall street journal" and tim stuart also economist art laffer dr. marty makary and andrew mccarthy. this story coming in from u.s. news saying the white house 2024 backup plan really is vice president kamala harris. how's that going to go? and will your gas prices go up again, because of the white house botched it with saudi arabia? and the white house floats another new bailout for delinquent borrowers and also will medicare really pay for a new breakthrough drug, could be a cure for alzheimers. i'm elizabeth macdonald, the "evening edit" starts right now.
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okay, let's get right to it, congressman greg steube, from house ways and means new york post columnist miranda devine joins us. congressman how can an fbi director refuse to turnover documents alleging corruption by then-vice president biden? >> yeah, cause he's working for president joe biden and the democratic party, and what the fbi should be doing is working for the american people, regardless of the party in power , regardless of who the president is, they should be about justice, and about fairness, and unfortunately, they are going to try to delay all of this as long as humanly possible, to give information that congress is rightly and duly authorized to receive. it's not classified information and our chairman has reviewed it and he's refusing director wray 's refusing to give that information to congress, and he should be held in contempt for it. liz: but miranda, what the congressman just said. what do you think? president biden, the allegation is he was engaged in a
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$5 million bribery scheme in the summer of 2020 when after he left the obama white house, and that's, it happened, that's the allegation it came up then but it occurred during the obama white house. james comer said the u.s. attorneys office in delaware has been investigating this as part of its probe into alleged crimes by hunter biden. democrat jamie raskin was trying to claim that was not the case. that a.g. barr had dropped it. >> well, look. i think what james comer said was that his assumption was when he was told by the fbi that this document was being used in a current investigation, his assumption was that that was something in delaware but that may not be correct. he's said that that was just an assumption. it doesn't matter. that's just getting into sort of ancillary tid bits about it and what matters is this is a credible whistleblower. this is also an informant that
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has been a paid fbi informant for a decade, has been paid six figures, james comer said, and that this person has come forward with this information about joe biden's behavior when he was vice president and this person, this informant, told the fbi about this in july of 2020 and there was a lot of information, i believe, this particular informant is from ukraine, and there was a lot of information coming out of ukraine, and it's really possibly the real achille's heel for president biden which is why the democrats have done so much to muddy the waters. liz: what miranda just reported let's get your reaction to the sound from congressman comer and raskin. watch this today. >> at the briefing the fbi again refused to hand over the unclassified record to the custody of the house oversight committee, and we will now
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initiate contempt of congress hearings this thursday. >> it suggests a pattern of bribery, where payments be made through shell accounts and multiple banks and there's a term for that called money laundering. we feel that this accusation is consistent with the pattern that we're seeing, frankly, in other countries too. the investigation is not dead. this is only the beginning. it appears this investigation is part of an ongoing investigation which i assume is in delaware. we believe there are multiple documents. >> what i know is that the fbi, department of justice team, under william barr and scott brady in the western district of pennsylvania terminated the investigation. liz: but, congressman steube, sources are saying that's not true. your reaction?
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>> yeah and if they terminated the investigation they should absolutely give us these documents and evidence without holding it back and then claiming that oh, we can't give it to you because it's part of an ongoing investigation. so either he's lying about that or director wray is lying about whether they can give us the information without a subpoena. liz: so miranda a recent harvard harris poll 53% of americans believe joe biden was involved in illegal influence scheme while he was vice president and 25% democrats believe that. under the , you know, in 2016 where based on unvetted gossip, unsubstantiated information the trump campaign was investigated, trump-russia. we saw that happen, but now it's circling the wagons when you have a serious allegation alleging bribery against a sitting president. >> it's a very serious allegation and the fbi has had this allegation for three years and seemingly, it's told james
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comer the reason they can't hand over this unclassified document is because the investigation is ongoing. for three years its been ongoing so that would seem to contradict what jamie raskin is talking about, saying that the western district of pennsylvania under bill barr closed that investigation. clearly, people within the doj are leaking to jamie raskin and clearly, what he's being told is at odds with what the fbi presumably chris wray has been telling james comer and the oversight committee, so either the fbi has stopped investigating this 1023 document or it's part of an ongoing investigation, which is it? liz: yeah that's what, you know, which is it? let's backup. there have been government documents showing the biden family using, we counted at least two dozen off balance sheet shell companies to take in
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cash flows from overseas from foreign nations. it's unclear what they were selling. two dozen fbi and irs whistleblowers telling congress there's bias in favor of president biden inside the doj, inside the fbi, also irs whistleblower saying the same thing, yet john durham special counsel report, the doj ig detailed how the fbi under james comey broke its own rules, congressman, and targeting the trump campaign. again, based on unverified gossip from unvetted sources, from information, you know, paid for by the hillary campaign, so how is it that they can then circle the wagons around what former president and vice president biden was doing and bury the evidence? we've got the allegations of that at the fbi. >> yeah, all of those things that you just said are correct and we have a complete weaponization of the fbi and the doj that are going to use an unverified document to surveil and go after a republican candidate for the united states presidency and then you have a situation where
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there's prima facia evidence all over everywhere of crimes that hunter biden has committed and now possibly the president sitting president while he was vice president has committed and then you have the doj and the fbi refusing to even give those documents to congress for oversight. liz: the american people deserve answers. they deserve transparency. >> absolutely. liz: miranda let's get your reaction of former fbi director comey out with a bias comment about former president trump. watch this. >> can you envision a scenario where trump manages to win back the white house and justice is delayed? >> i could. i don't want to, but i could. i mean, it's this crazy world that donald trump has dragged this country into, but he could be wearing an ankle bracelet while accepting the nomination at the republican convention. >> think about what four years of a retribution presidency might look like. he could order the investigation and prosecution of individuals, who he sees as enemies. i'm sure i'm on the enemies list it has to be joe biden, and i'm
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glad he's willing to serve. liz: what do you think, miranda? >> well he's obviously being self-serving because he knows that right now, he's escaped any accountability but if trump were to come back to the white house, there be , you know, no stone left unturned to ensure that james comey who really began all this in the fbi by for some clumsy reason partisan reason maybe, who knows, he politicized the whole clinton investigation and then tried to make amends by then going after trump and then, you know, the fbi was then taint ed forever and every single political investigation that came before it was handled, was mishandled, whether it be sheltering joe biden or whether it be targeting donald trump. they all had at the top of the fbi a severe case of trump derangement syndrome. i think they still believe that
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they were doing the right thing and that's what they have to keep telling themselves that they are the heros, but the fact is now, i think, that the cover- up, the story of the fbi, cia, doj, cover-up is a bigger story than the initial story of corruption. liz: yeah, it feels like election interference. right? final word. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. liz: got it. congressman steube, miranda devine thanks for joining us. we've got more republican candidates tossing their hats into the ring in the 2024 race for the white house. let's get to fox news mark meredith live in washington with the story. mark? reporter: liz, good evening to you. the field of republican candidates is growing fast. today former vice president mike pence made it official through paperwork he's going to challenge his old runningmate former president trump for the republican nomination. pence is still going to official ly unveil his campaign on wednesday and give remarks in iowa, the former vp is expected to campaign heavily on his faith , his record and the policies he fought for
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during the trump administration. >> i'm just very confident that whatever things look like right now, that republican primary voters are going to look at the field, think very deeply about who could best carry our message and carry a majority to victory. reporter: pence is not the only one joining the field this week. former new jersey governor chris cristi will announce tomorrow night in new hampshire and the governor of north dakota is going to announce hours later. he will speak wednesday. tonight, south carolina senator tim scott is also generating considerable buzz after he appeared on abc "the view." the interview was notable because multiple co-hosts on the show had recently claimed that the senator could not understand how black americans feel because he's a republican. tonight, liz, he fired right back. >> one of the reasons why i'm on this show is because of the comments that were made frankly on this show, that the only way for a young african americans kid to be successful in this country is to be the exception and not the rule. that is a dangerous offensive
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disgusting message to send to our young people today. reporter: senator scott already gotten two endorsements from the senate but he trails trump in polling and those endorsements overall. today we also heard from new hampshire governor chris sununu who announced he's not running for president next year. he's rumored he made it clear he's not a trump supporter but stopped short of endorsing anyone and plan to support the republican nominee, but liz, as you know, anyones guess who that's going to be. liz: true mark you'll be busy. we'll have you back on. reporter: i have to go to iowa tomorrow. liz: we'll stay with the story with you, mark. thanks for joining us. let's bring back on to the show, former chief speechwriter for george w. bush, he's a great editorial columnist at the "wall street journal", bill mcgurn. bill, u.s. news reporting the white house plan b, its backup plan is kamala harris. that they want to elevate the vice president's profile to give voters a realtime idea of what it be like to have her leading america. what do you think?
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>> i think kamala harris' problem is that her profile has been elevated and whenever it is , she suffers, because she can't string together a simple sentence and her thoughts are foggy. i think she's, you know, hesitant to always to call a politician stupid, but she doesn't present herself well. you can't really point to anything she did. you know, the root cause is immigration. she went down there a few times and that's it. liz: you know, bill, this is happening. the same time that the new york times is reporting, white house officials "leave president biden alone." they leave him alone on the weekend weekends and adjust his schedule so they don't tire out and fatigue an aging president, and they are reporting that president biden is given just a quarter of the interviews former president trump did in the same time period a fifth of what obama did none to reporters from a major
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newspaper. >> yeah, i mean, look. the way i look at it he's obviously slowed down and one of the problems is it doesn't remain in place, you know? you continue to slowdown and i think it might be even at a more rapid pace, so i wonder after being protected from primaries and debates this year, what next year is going to be like. i don't know if he can stand the campaign. liz: they can't be accused of hiding from the american people the truth of what's really going on at the white house. they can't do that. that's not right. it's keeping the american voter in the dark of what the real story is, what's going on behind the scenes because now we have r fk jr.. he's moving up in the democrat polls. he's getting from 15-20% of the vote, and bill, he spoke on twitter today with elon musk and jack dorsey of twitter co- founder endorses rfk jr.. what do you make of the rise of rfk jr.? >> well, i think it's more a
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sign of democratic dissatisfaction with joe biden and so forth. i mean, rfk jr. is up in the 20% level. i think marion williamson is around 10%. that's one-third of the voters and you know, they really haven't pushed their candidacy and haven't had the benefit of debates. that's what they start out with, so i think it's a bad thing for joe biden. it's not so much his standing among republicans. it's that democrats are not thrilled with him, and they can only mumble and grumble in private. you know? no one will admit that grandpa is the problem. liz: interesting too that rfk jr. , we know he's been very critical of lockdowns and vaccines, but notably lockdowns and what america lived through as well, he was totally against shutdowns thought it was wrong. we want to show you this sound. biden's new nominee, the choice for it to be the new cdc director mandy cohen. bill let's get your reaction the
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former secretary of the north carolina department of hhs. she was caught on camera joking about covid lockdowns. watch this. >> probably the person i called most was the secretary of health and human services in massachusetts. she worked for republican governor just to, um, but you know, when she was like are you going to let them have professional, um, football and i was like nope and she's like okay neither are we. [laughter] liz: really? so behind the scenes, they were going to shutdown football and lockdowns? >> yeah, that's the real window into how these decisions were made. i mean, we know now there's no science behind it, right? the six foot rule and so much other stuff, and i think that it's a bad omen. liz: yeah. >> the cdc has yet to admit the mistakes it made. liz: yeah, and we need it, you know, that be a great hearing. just one hearing to show how we didn't do it right. there were mistakes and let's not do it again.
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that's what america deserves. transparency and honesty bill mcgurn you're terrific. thanks for joining us we'll have you back on. >> thanks. have a good night. liz: we're staying on the story voter polls are showing and saying enough is enough. they are done with how the d.c. is running itself but the white house is floating yet another new plan, a bailout plan wanting to force taxpayers to bail out delinquent homeowners and we have energy experts jim stuart and neil chattergy on deck talking about saudi arabia again sticking it to the biden white house slashing oil production. will your gas prices go up? is this a story, opec does not respect the u.s. anymore? because under trump, gas prices fell below two bucks remember that? under biden seems like it's about making opec great again. it's coming up in the "evening edit." >> there were two things that they never wanted us to have at united nations. none of our enemies wanted us to have a strong military and they didn't want us to be energy independent. we have got to get energy
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commission, back with us is former chairman neil chatterjee. gentlemen thanks for joining us tonight. first to you let's get right at it, tim. how much will gas prices go up, because now saudi arabia is sticking it to the white house saying that it's going to cut oil production a million barrels a day. >> you know, the saudis are in a tough spot, liz. there's global weakness and they are losing pressure, losing market and under pressure from russia who are selling to their biggest markets so that's why they made this move. a lot of analysts said it's going to have an impact maybe not huge impact but somewhat of an impact. supply is always greater in the second half. our inventories are down, so i think the american driver is going to see increase at the pump here particularly towards the latter end of the summer. liz: so could we see gas prices going up, neil. that's what tim just said, because you know, opec cut production on paper 4.6 million- barrels a day. we know that there's cheating that goes on around those number s, neil, but you know, the biden white house had asked the saudis to increase production to keep gas prices low, in order to get the
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mid-term vote after they call them pariahs on the campaign trail, neil, and they are saying forget it. we'll slash our oil output further. neil it just feels like nobody in opec respects the u.s. any more. >> well it's not a new development. this has been going on for sometime. i don't know how often we have to repeat this cycle, and really , it stems from dependence why are we continually dependent upon opec + countries and are vulnerable to their decision-making when it comes to the price that americans pay at the pump when we have this abundant domestic supply. the biden administration is trying to playcate their environmental base and is urticaria hadding consumers particularly at a time when they are under inflationary pressure. the irony is we do it cleaner and better than anybody else. the biden administration could not only help consumers. they could help the environment if they encourage domestic energy production instead of
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dependence. liz: to what neil just said, the u.s. energy does it cleaner. daniel turner is the founder and executive director of power of the future. he said it was a few short years ago foreign governments could not use energy as a weapon against the sucks and joe biden came along and made opec great again and gas was a net energy exporter and gas went below $2 a gallon. >> yeah, you know, and neil is exactly right. we produce energy cleaner than anybody else in the world where the world's on how it's done. the world sends their engineers, their business to us, to learn how to do it better elsewhere. unfortunately, the biden administration's policy is their energy policy is based on energy poverty for all. so like last week, for example, when you had congress and a budget reconciliation bill that was passed at which increased and increased the speed of which permits were to be able to be
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permitted, and on the other hand , they turn around and they block off additional federal lands down, at the chauco canyon and put native americans back into energy poverty who are relying on those oil revenues to supplement their income so the reality is the u.s. consumer really should be grateful that we have despite the administrations effort to de bank us and regulate us out of existence we have fought through that and our domestic production is almost to where it was pre pandemic levels and that's fortunate for the consumer. liz: yeah, heard that loud and clear. and you know what the other thing too is, neil. even england is questioning electric cars. we had the british comedian known as mr. bean. he's now, and he's by the way, he has training at oxford as an electrical engineer. he's speaking out questioning electric cars. he is saying that he feels duped by it and they are actually more polluting to make electric cars than just to use gas and diesel cars.
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>> yeah, he's a guy that if i recall doesn't even speak in movies so the fact that he's speaking out about this goes to show you how significant an issue is. the problem is really it's with the policy. i don't have a problem with electric vehicles. what i don't like is the government mandating that i have to have one because i can't purchase combustion engine vehicle. and beyond that, all of these incentives in the policies, they are being driven towards incentivizing the purchase of electric vehicles, but not the actual usage of electric vehicles, and the reality is, ev 's have a higher emissions profile upfront and they only balance out their carbon emissions if you drive them for a while. well if we don't have the infrastructure in place to charge and operate ev's, the government may subsidize people to purchase them. they aren't using they'll. they are actually hurting the environment. liz: that's a good point. they don't offset if you don't use it. tim stuart, neil chatterjee, thanks for joining us. we're staying on this potential
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blockbuster development. will medicare really cover a new breakthrough potential cure for alzheimers we've got dr. marty makary coming up and also we've got former reagan economist art laffer. we love art laffer. voters have been saying enough is enough but now the white house is floating yet another new bailout plan to force taxpayers to bail out delinquent homeowners coming up in the "evening edit."
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- [announcer] call right now to receive your free no-obligation info kit. call the number on your screen. liz: well, look whose back with us, former reagan economist art laffer. art is the author of the terrific book "taxes have consequences." art, okay you're the perfect expert for this. here we go again. president biden, you know, americans hate bailouts. they don't like it and don't like the treatment. the biden white house bailed out wets it depositors at silicon valley bank trying to bailout student loan borrowers demanding good credit borrowers bail out riskier mortgage
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borrowers with higher mortgage fees and now, biden's fha floating another new bailout plan forcing taxpayers to bail out the mortgages of delinquent homeowners, art? this is out of what's called the fha partial supplemental slush fund apparently. what do you think of this? >> it doesn't make sense, elizabeth, you're so right. what they do is make people with good credit scores pay more and people with bad credit scores pay less, so that encourages people to get bad credit core scores. i don't think they understand any logic in all of this but there is no logic. what you want to do is get the people with low credit scores to have higher credit scores, by having good jobs, output employment production. that's the way to get the system right. not by subsidizing people who have low credit scores and taxing people with good ones. it's just the wrong, wrong, wrong set of incentives and incentives matter.
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that's what economics is all about. liz: then the fha, with this new slush fund program with money on the side that can help people when interest rates go up with their mortgage payments. that's what this new bailout plan would do, and it basically also would it looks like it would, you know, keep the mortgage payments low for delinquent borrowers for five years after this bail out fund. this is after the fed raised interest rates 10 straight times to stop out of control inflation fueled by government freebies and out of control spending. >> it just makes no sense whatsoever but it's what this administration does all the time, elizabeth. i mean, they just use slush funds. you know there's no such thing as a slush fund. government doesn't create resources. government redistributes resources and every dollar they give to someone with low credit, they are taking it from someone else with high credit or higher income. it's just the way the world operates. if they wanted to do something, that really made a difference, what they should do is get the states to lower property
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tax rates. property taxes are the biggest killers of property values all across the country, and when these states start having financial difficulties as they will shortly, they will raise property tax rates and then you'll see a real housing collapse and that will have an enormously effect on the banking system as well and then you'll get the fed involved with trying to subsidize with low rates by building up their balance sheet, creating the inflation that we're trying to get rid of so badly. liz: the tell of how bad taxes are they kept going up during the 2008 financial collapse, kept going up even when the economy was shutdown during the pandemic. you know let's get to welfare reform because bill clinton did it, right? he did welfare reform. >> he did. it was great. he was just great. liz: the debt ceiling deal republicans got is saying you've got to work to get certain forms of welfare but we've got new information out of aei. they are showing poverty rates actually dropped when you had people doing welfare-to-work
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reform, or do any kind of volunteer work, you also saw the labor force participation rate go up in places like new york city, art. >> yeah, exactly right, and you know, if the study of aei study had not shown that the study be wrong, because the data, we all know clearly, that if you work, that's the best elixir for eliminating poverty. john f. kennedy said the best form of welfare is still a good, high paying job. and that's so, so true. we need so many jobs out there, elizabeth, such that everyone can get them and keep them, because there are so many jobs around, and that's what will eliminate poverty. that's what will create increases in the participation rate, and the better lifestyle. liz: yeah, because you know, we're going in reverse under this biden white house. even fdr said that cash handouts that welfare is a form of a narcotic, that kind of like just makes people sit back and not get up and out of their chairs
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to go to work. the numbers are stunning in new york city there was 1.1 million people on cash welfare and then it dropped to 360,000, art, when they did, you know, under clinton welfare reform. >> yeah, well clinton was great as the president. he really was. he was terrific. i like bill clinton a lot. he did a couple things wrong, but most of the stuff he did was really great. pro-growth, all of the policies, and you know, when you look at it, whole reversals and by the way its been bipartisan. you had w, who wasn't very good and then you had obama was really terrible then you had trump who was really pretty good on this stuff. trump did know how to create jobs and now we're back into really the worst of the worst with biden. i mean, we've got to change these things or else the country will be literally lost for the long run. liz: well, art, we hope we don't lose it because we need you to stop that from happening. next time i'll make you laugh more, art. >> well then get marty makary.
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you get him to keep working on letting people live longer, because i'm 83, elizabeth, and if he can make me go to 125 or 137, i'll be here with you everyday. liz: well marty makary will be on later we'll ask him. good to have you on, art. >> tell him to make me live longer. liz: we'll get right on the stick. we're staying on this story house oversight chair james comer is going to launch contempt hearings for fbi director christopher wray. it is time to clean out washington and as we were just talking about dr. marty makary is going to talk to us about this blockbuster potential move out of medicare. will medicare really cover a new breakthrough potential cure for alzheimer and what is this all about? we'll talk to dr. marty makary next on the "evening edit." ers." because i think we looked... yes. right. yeah. and i don't think at that time- i think you're the one to tell me that we had the same birthday. yes. it's really unbelievable when you think about it,
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price of costly new drugs for alzheimers disease, but the alzheimers association has some concerns about government demands. >> i think red tape is a good way to think about it. what we're really worried about is the undue burden that's being put on physicians and providing care. every day matters with treatment that we are seeing coming out of the innovation pipeline right now. individuals who don't have access to treatment progress further in the disease. chris derail is a married mother of three who lost her mother and grandfather to alzheimers and an uncle from cognitive decline. the fight against alzheimers is very personal for her family. her mother was diagnosed in 2015 she passed away in 2018, and christa says as alzheimers families know, the time with your loved ones is precious. >> any time that there are more hoops to jump through, whether real or implied, it just adds
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time to the whole process and time is not a luxury that victims of alzheimers have. >> she tells me she would give anything for more time with her mother who missed the graduation s of her children and other special moments. about 6.7 million people in the u.s. are diagnosed with alzheimers and that numbers expected to climb rapidly in the next few years as the population ages. liz: mike, great journalism as always. there's heartbreak and emotion in that story but hope too. thank you, mike. it's good to see you let's welcome back to the show dr. marty makary. doctor, what's your reaction to that report? i mean the cost of the treatment could be 26, 500 per year. kaiser family foundation executives say this could have an impact on medicare spending. maybe results in higher part b premiums. what's your take on all this? >> this was a bold move by medicare. if you do the math and just 10% of patients with alzheimers in the u.s. qualify for the drug
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that's an $18 billion cost. now, is there really a clinical benefit that out weighs the risk s? i think the verdict is a little out yet. we do know that this drug has resulted in a roughly 27% slowing at a year and a half after the drug was started, but about 13% had brain swelling and there were three deaths in a group of about 800-some people so that's why medicare wants this to be used only on a protocol. that is when you're registered and outcomes can be followed so we can learn more about the drug liz: i want to understand this. was it biogen's drug lakembi found to delay cognitive decline by 27%? >> that's right. it was approved the fda in january, and it also made by eis ai, the other company partnered with biogen. liz: so eli lilly's drug is a late stage trial. it's slowing, we saw cognitive slowing, decline by 35%. why do those three individuals
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pass away from the allegedly from the biogen drug? >> we don't know. so it's unclear. we don't have the good data, and the trial is still ongoing. they could be more transparent with the data it would help us understand what's going on right now. liz: so how do the drugs work? >> they reduce plaque buildup in the brain, and in doing so, the idea is that there's a clinical correlation where you have less cognitive decline. the idea is the plaque somehow short circuits the brain. there's other things that can by the way prevent some of the plaque accumulation. we know stress and even food, sleep has a role in plaque build up, but there's almost no money to study those things. instead we're funding billion dollar drugs with no understanding of what causes alzheimers. liz: so it's like using the bodies own immune system to do that right? to clear out the amyloid plaques? >> these are moan o clonal antibodies as the public is financial ill with regeneron's
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products. these are infusions. you sit down for an infusion twice a week. price tags about $26 a year, but this is a monoclonal antibody. liz: terrific stuff. thanks for joining us. next time we'll talk about art laffer who wants you to come up with a drug that makes him live to 150. >> i've got it in the lab ready to go. liz: thank you so much good to see you. we've got former assistant u.s. attorney andrew mccarthy talking to us about house oversight chair james comer launching contempt for hearings for fbi director christopher wray over the fbi physically withholding and not turning over the fbi document alleging then- vice president biden engaged in a $5 million bribery scheme with barr national. new poll of voters saying enough is enough. time to clean-up didc let's check in with our buddies dagen and you have brian brenberg there. filling in for sean. brian brenberg, baseball fan. dagen: it's because shawn enter ed a contest over the weekend. liz: fantastic we love that.
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assistant attorney, andrew mccarthy, great writer reporter, journalist, columnist. what do you make of the action with house oversight chair comer saying we will launch contempt of congress hearings involving fbi director wray physically with holding, not handing over the fbi document allegedly involving bribery with former vice president biden? >> liz, there are two things going on. one the fbi doesn't really have a legal leg to stand on to refuse to disclose a document that congress in its oversight authority demands but historically i think probably up until the last eight years the fbi had such a good public reputation for integrity and scrupulousness that when it came in and said if we give you this it is going to endanger methods, sources of intelligence gathering and compromise
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informants, congress would back up from that. because you know, the bureau, the public believed the bureau when it said stuff like that. now what congress is saying if you're going to be a partisan which the bureau has been for the last eight years then you know, guess what? you don't have the political heft that you used to when we waged these battles and we want the document. that is a subpoena and you have to honor it. liz: the other thing too is, we have this new poll, a majority of voters, andrew, say, 2/3 of voters say they want the fbi cleaned out. looks like special counsel durham's powerful message of fbi misconduct is getting through to the american people. his report, it was scathing. it basically said the fbi used raw, unanalyzed uncorroborated intelligence to launch a full-blown investigation right off the bat into trump russia. now they're backing off with dozens of government whistle-blowers saying there is favoritism towards biden behind the scenes, an fbi document
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allegedly involving vice president biden. why wouldn't the white house want not to get that out there and put to it rest? >> well, we have quite a bit of evidence that is amassing, liz, that millions of dollars went into the biden family coffers from people connected to foreign reg dispeoples, corrupt ones, anti-american ones where joe biden happened to be the point person for american policy i'm not so sure they necessarily think it would be exculpatory or in their interest to push the information out. obviously the president can push out whatever information he wants. if he thought it was helpful to them it would be out already. liz: democrat jamie raskin is pushing out information. he was claiming that a.g. barr dropped this. there is no proof of that. comer assumed the us 10:00 is picking this up for his investigation. jamie raskin moved not to certify the 2016 results for former president trump. he was big on trump russia.
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let's watch florida governor desantis on this. let's look at his take, watch. >> we have a bureaucracy that our founding fathers would find unrecognizable. it is unaccount ann, weaponized administrative state that wields authority depending on its targets. two different sets of rules depending on whether you're a member in good standing of elite society or not. if hunter were a republican he would have been in jail years ago. our great american comeback starts by sending joe biden back to his basement in delaware! liz: what did you think of what the governor said? >> well i think unfortunately the fbi and the justice department have given governor desantis a lot to work with to make that argument. it is not just the durham report. there were a series of reports from the justice department inspector general and from the fisa court itself which details
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some shocking misconduct by the fbi over the last decade or so and you know you can't engage in that kind of behavior and maintain your reputation. liz: now we have special counsel durham will testify later this month before house intelligence and house judiciary. andrew mccarthy, great insights. always a pleasure having you on the show. good to see you. tune in tomorrow night which have house oversight chairman james comer will join us. senator marsha blackburn with us and former governor mike huckabee. thanks for watching. i'm liz macdonald you're watching "the evening edit." that is it for us. we'll turn it over to dagen and brian brenberg. good to see you guys. dagen: petrified. thank you, emac. sure
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