registration number of a plane in the u.s.? n, a, p or j, lauren? lauren:st it's on the tail, and i'm going a for america? david: oh, that would be nice. [laughter] that would be nice. guess what? they put it up in my prompter here, so i know the answer. but i knew it was -- tragically, when you're in the news business, you cover a lot of plane crashes, etc., or planes that go errant, and you get used to seeing that letter. it was a pleasure working with you those the past two days. lauren: it was just today, david. david: that's right. oh, my goodness, i'm so sorry, lauren. it was great working with you one day. [laughter] thank you all for watching. checking the markets, and things are going south right now, but that's it for "varney & company." see you next time. neil: all right, if the markets are panicking about the former president of the united states returning to court for a

separate size of indictments, they certainly have a funny way of showing it. stocks mixed but largely contained even in the faces of some legal troubles that are building for one donald j. trump. i'm neil cavuto, let's get right to it in florida where all this is going to be going down in miami, the courthouse. ashley webster in palm beach, florida, with what we're look proking at. ashley. -- what we're looking at. >> reporter: some news right off the top, president trump announce on truth social that he's letting a couple of his attorneys go, thanking them for their service, jim trusty and john rawly, announcing he's bringing on a, quote, firm to be named later. his new legal team will have to face these charges that we understand are in the sealed indictment. take a look at these. donald trump accused of one charge under the espionage a act, obstruction of justice, destruction can the of records as well, conspiracy and false statements. so what would you do if you

faced charges like that? well, you grab your golf club and go golfing which is exactly what donald trump did today, taking all of this in stride at his resort in bedminster, new jersey. but earlier once the news of the indictment was made public, he once again said he is the victim of a witch hunt. take a listen. >> it's a hoax. the whole thing is a hoax. i'm an innocent man, i did nothing wrong, and we'll fight this out just like we've been fighting for seven years. >> reporter: well, you know, the charges do not prevent donald trump from continuing his campaign for the white house, in fact, he could get convicted and still continue his run. but legal scholars including alan dershowitz say the doj better have a strong case. >> look, this indictment is as weak as it appears to be from what has been disclosed so far, it may be the most dangerous indictment in political history. >> reporter: you know, donald trump is expected to appear in a

miami federal courtroom tuesday afternoon. it's federal court, no -- the doors will be closed, no cameras. and, neil, it's unlikely this case will be resolved anytime before the general election. and as we've seen in the past, indictments and charges like this have done nothing else but so lid arefy donald trump's base, so it'll be interesting to see how all of this affects his lead, which he has a substantial lead in the gop primary. neil, back to you. neil: ashley, do you know whether jim trusty had a heads up? he was talking to the media this morning that that he was going to be dumped by afternoon? >> reporter: i know. i don't think he did. that's a very good question. will we ever know, but having watched him on the morning shows, it didn't appear to me that he was on his way out. and if he was, it was a remarkably good acting job. [laughter] i think donald trump in his message said, you know, you've done a good job, but you're facing true evil and corruption which suggested perhaps he felt he needed to bring in someone

more heavy-hitting perhaps, i don't know. neil: yeah. bring in some tigers, i guess. all right, ashley, thank you for that. at the corner of wall and broad, we have a minor selloff going on, but i would imagine given all of next week's big developments with donald trump, there is the issue of what happens the day after he appears in that miami courthouse. the federal reserve starts a 2-day meeting at which we used to think they weren't going to hike rates, they were going to pause. that's not such a garon teach larry grays -- guarantee. larry glaeser back with us. what do you think happens not so much next tuesday with the formal arraignment of donald j. trump, but the day after, the day after that with this fed meeting? >> you know, neil, despite all the scary headlines, this market is cool as a cucumber. and, look, the so-called fear gauge which measures volatility and fear in the market shows no fear, right in it's back to pre-covid levels s. so it shows that traders and wall street professionals aren't worried about anything right now.

maybe they should but they're not. look, neil, the market is up 20% from the october lows, up four weeks in a row, and there is fatigue out there. there's fatigue coming out of washington. people are sick of the drama. there's also fatigue about recession calls, and you're starting to see the market broadening out. so i'm with you. look, buckle up for next week. you've got inflation reports, cpi, ppi, retail sales, who two elephants in the room, the indictment situation and, of course, the fed meeting. so there's a lot on the horizon. with but this weekend traders might even go to the beach. neil: i'm just curious what you make of the political back and forth and the legal pressures now building on donald trump. as you said, throughout all of this it's not been a factor in any trading here. it might discombobulate republicans, they don't know where that's going to go, but wall street is more focused for the time being, i guess, on money matters only. >> that's exactly right, neil. and i think wall street has accepted the idea that the fed

has a skip strategy for next week, is they're not going to the raise rates, and then in july likely -- 90% project priced in of another -- prospect of another rate hike. it's going to keep money competing with the risk assets. so i think that's the challenge we're going to face. also seasonality. look, that's a big deal. sell in may and go away with a -- is a real phenomenon. people do like to take a pause, take a break, and all that fatigue is going to build up, and it could cause some volatility but not the volatility that we experienced last year. and, again, those recession calls were premature. i think the market is upset e that people decided that that things were going to roll over, and they're ignoring indictment concerns at least for today. neil: all right. thank you for that, larry, we'll watch it closely. want to go to tom dupree and the legal implications, these carry a little bit more heft, these latest charges here, tom. i'm just wondering, i think

jonathan turley had said when comparing these to the prosecution brought by alvin bragg, that jack smith is a whole different character and a much more serious one. what do you think? >> i agree, neil. pretty much from every perspective, president trump faces more jeopardy, and this is going to be a more challenging case than the one he's currently facing in new york. typically as a defendant can you'd rather, if you have to go to trial, you'd rather face off against a local district attorney rather than the united states department of justice and all the resources that the justice department and the federal government can bring to bear. neil: now, let me understand the gist of this, what's at issue here and why a lot of republicans who have been on this network, other networks have been arguing it's a cabal out to get the former president, you know? he is getting, you know, crucified over, you know, classified documents. not so the president occupant of the white house, didn't happen to mike pence, of course. they had far fewer documents

than it would appear, and they were a lot more cooperative early on, that a donald trump was not, and that was his undoing. is that true? >> you know to, there is some -- you know, there is some truth to that. in other words, from what we understand with pence and, frankly, even with biden is when they first got notice that they might be in possession of classified documents, they cooperated and turned the it over whereas president trump in contrast and arguably more true to his nature decided to fight and push back a little bit. so is we are where we are: from my perspective, the interesting thing will be seeing what evidence the special counsel actually bring withs forward in the charges he's attempting to prove. no one ever goes to jail because of charges, they get put in jail because of evidence, and that's what i'm interested to see. when push comes to shove, what is the precise evidence the special counsel is going to put before a jury in florida in his attempt to convict the former president. neil: you know, i notice a lot of this goes -- the sheer number of documents that the former president had in his possession, and then there's the issue of

this tape where he talks about this classified document concerning a potential attack on iran. and he was talking about that and mentioning the fact that he could have declassified them earlier, he never did, so this sort of double jeopardy in both of those comments. what do you headache of of that? -- make of that? >> yeah. when i heard the news about the audiotape, my first thought was, look, prosecutors will tell you often the most effective evidence you can present against the defendant is his own words, and i think that there will be kind of a perry mason moment eventually in trial when the prosecutors play that audiotape and possibly other all of a sudden yo tapes they have -- all of a sudden yo tapes they have, and i'm also going to be interested to hear what the former president has to say. they're going to confront him with his own words, he hasn't had a chance to put those words in context, but he will have his day in court, and i'll be very interested the competing narratives about all these things they claim to have gotten former president trump saying on

tape. neil: it isn't unusual for those under legal pressure the change teams, lawyers and what have you. but if we're to take these latest reports at face value, jim trusty is gone as the president's lawyer, short of shepherding this process along, so maybe he's looking for more bare dude da types. what do you think -- bare dude da types. >> look, as we know there history, he's not shy about reshuffling the deck when it comes to lawyers and bringing in new ones if he doesn't like his current ones. and it wouldn't surprise me at all if his new legal team takes a more aggressive approach, tries to knock this indictment out at the threshold. they may argue prosecutorial misconduct or other arguments along those lines, but their game plan is going to be to see if they can actually knock this indictment out and get a victory long before it ever sees the light of day in a courtroom with a jury. neil: real quickly, tom, constitution all that's required of those who seek the highest

office in the land ask that you be a united states citizen, that you're 35 years or older. check, check, check for donald trump. but there is this other issue of all these indictments that are piling up and cases that have to be adjudicated. what happens? >> yeah. well, you're right, neil, the constitution actually places very few restrictions and really the exclusive restrictions on who is eligible to serve for the presidency. to the extent that there's kind of any impact on, you know, former president trump were to get convicted, any impact on his ability to serve, that limit wouldn't come from the constitution, but really from just kind of political forces, people saying, well, we're not going to vote for this guy if he's been convicted. you right, legally he can serve. as a practical matter, obviously, it can pose channels both as a candidate and if he's an actual president in trying to deal with all of this. we're in uncharted territory, but there's no constitutional restriction on the president continuing to run and serving if

elected even if he's convicted. neil: even if he's convicted. >> yes. neil: so let's say he then is sworn in as president of the united states and he's convicted, then what? >> well, great, great question. [laughter] a few thoughts. one is that, you know, any result in this case, i mean, we shouldn't automatically assuming that if the former president were convicted, that it would automatically result in a sentence of imprisonment. obviously, you can have sentences that that involve, you know, suspended sentences, probation, things along those lines. so i wouldn't necessarily say, well, if he's convicted, that means he's going to jail. that wouldn't be right. you know, and then i think even if he were in a situation where the president, you know, were unable to, you know, perform his duties for some period of time, you know, it would be interesting to see how he's going to the navigate that. there's no constitutional impediment to him trying to perform his duties even if he's in prison somewhere. again, i don't see us coming to that point, i suspect something will happen before then, but as i said, we're in uncharted

constitution alter story here. neil: all right. that is an understatementing here, but, tom, thank you for guiding us through it, former deputy assistant attorney general. by and large, republicans have rally ared around donald trump even if they weren't directly supporting his presidential bid. congresswoman nancy mace with us now from south carolina. i want to pass along some comments we're getting now from senator mitt romney who had said that the department of jus fit -- justice and the special counsel had exercised what he called due care. he said the former president, quote, brought these charges upon himself by not only taking classifieded documents, but by refusing to simply return them. what do you think of that? >> well, i haven't had a chance to read the indictment and all seven charges in this case, but the irony is not lost on me as someone when who has not always been with the former president, as you know, neil. but the timing of these indictments sure does look like weaponization of the doj against a political opponent of the

president. i think that's what people are going to see today until we get all the facts and all the information, and i'm someone who's always said follow the facts wherever they lead us. but to see this, and as you said, this really unprecedented at this moment in our nation's list roy. neil: well -- history. neil: well, leapt me get into that because there's a lot of people saying there's no difference between donald trump having classified documents and, for example, what president biden has been dealing with concerning classified documents save the fact that donald trump had a lot more and seems to have misrepresented how many he had. you know, if you look at the timeline on this, congresswoman, there was an issue of months of back and forth where, you know, the government, national archives was trying to get these documents it knew were missing and suspected he had. so after that the president handed over 15 boxes of papers are if mar-a-lago, and they were told at that time in 2022 that was it. then archive officials opened

the boxes, they found more than 100 classified documentses scattered among the various items, and these were documents they didn't even know were missing at the time. so they went back to donald trump to get some more information on that, and they were handed over an additional 38 classified documents. they still suspected more were missing. the president said, no, they were not. the fbi agents later said there was enough that that they were concerned about that they decided to raid his property, mar-a-lago, the most controversial act of all. but that's when they discovered still hundreds of more classified documents. in other words, what they're presenting in this, in this series of indictments is that the president or at least those around him lied and repeatedly lied. and obstructed justice. if that is true, do you think then this move on the part of the special counsel is

justified? >> well, when you look at the timing of it, i mean, literally the day that we were going to hold the fbi in contempt when we got access to the 1023 form from the fbi, this is when the indictment came down. the timing of it, for me just as an average american, is very us pushes -- neil: wasn't that percolating for a while though, congress congressman? i know jack smith has been doing this and, of course ors things were gathering a head of steam as he was securing another grand jury in florida, participants at mar-a-lago and what they knew and when they knew it, that this was snowballing to that point. >> and i do agree with you, neil. but if this weren't done on the same exact day that we on the oversight committee got access to evidence of a bribery scheme with the biden family, i'd be singing that tune too, but that's not what happened here. of i know that mike pence was cleared but, you know, vice president, whether it's vice president biden or vice president mike pence, they didn't have the ability to declassify documents, and both of them were found in possession of classified material, and there are over 1800 boxes from

then-vice president biden. we know he had classified information in his unsecured garage. is the fbi, the doj, are they going to go through every single box of biden's and treat him the same way -- neil: well, we don't know, and to your point, we don't know exactly how many documents we're talking about in his case, and that might be -- >> treat them the same. neil: let me just try to get some clarity on your part about what we're told was in those boxes and what the president knew. now we have this tape recording that seems to anticipate that -- indicate that the president was sharing information on some secret documents including one that was about an invasion of iran and that the president is heard saying, allegedly, as president i could have do declassified it, but now i can't. pretty explosive stuff. what do you think? >> right. and i haven't had a chance to see the transcript yet. neil: understood.

>> but again, looking at hillary clinton, she had a private server in the bathroom of her home, was with sharing classified information on unclassified channels, knowingly doing that with the classified markings. whatever the standard is, neil, whether you're republican or democrat, treat everybody by the same standard. only one person's been indicted on it. neil: all right. regardless of that though it does seem to be in this country a lot of republicans -- and i know you've had your differences with the former president, but do you think republicans are missing the point that to argue for a defense that the others got away with it so donald trump should as well is a wise strategy? >> well, we're going to -- i, as always, want to follow the facts in any investigation, in any indictment which is why it's so important that regardless of who you are, regardless of your political affiliation, that everybody is simply treated the same way. why did the vice president of the united states have classified material next to his corvette in his unsecured garage? he didn't have, he didn't have the legal authority to have

those documents in his possession either, and -- neil: is that of the magnitude here, congresswoman? that's what i'm asking, because that's apparently where at this point jack smith is distinguishing. >> well, i still -- neil, i just can't get beyond the fact that the doj did this on the same day e that i got access's to information showing a bribery -- access to information showing a bribery scheme between ukrainian executives and hunter and joe biden. i just -- the timing of it, to me, looks very political, looks very weaponized and is going to overshadow think of the facts or the charges -- neil: are you saying, to be clear, that jack smith knew about you getting a chance to look at these documents concerning joe bide season and that he was under pressure or -- can joe biden and that he was under pressure or maybe felt the pressure himself to get these indictments out there to take away attention to that? >> i cannot get beyond the timing of it just as an average american. to me, it's just too suspicious. every time that joe biden comes

under the microscope, something like this happens, there's a story that overshadows it for republicans. i just can't personally get beyond that. and if this were any ore day, then i think we'd be having a very different conversation, ors but this looks very weaponized and very political from the spot where i'm standing from today. neil: asa hutchinson among the republican candidates, the only one i know of, who said the president should take himself out of the running. of course, he's said that before, that he's going to be a drag, i'm paraphrasing, on the party. do you agree we that? regardless of your views you just stated eloquently here. >> i mean, i do think the biden administration's trying to force trump out of the primary. you heard rachel maddow on msnbc basically he would negotiate a deal that would require him to drop out of the republican primary. i think that's the intent here, but i do believe with the blowback with the country rallying around donald trump it'll probably have the opposite effect. neil: all right. congresswoman, always good seeing you. >> thank you, neil.

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they sound so tortured. what really concerns me though is that china widely circulated reports for a very long time has had signals, listening post on cuba. so at the facility which was perhaps the largest soviet listening post outside of the soviet union, the chinese have taken over at least part of the facility according to these reports. and there are two more. so i would like somebody to ask kirby or somebody in the pentagon does china currently, not a new facility, but does china currently have signals and facilities in cuba? neil: now, they have the ability and the technology to knock out our satellites, at least those that could track whatever they're doing, and they have actually, i think, bragged about it. so it isn't a leap here to take this story to account. >> yes. and there are chinese military facilities, small ones, trout

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♪ >> we have a responsibility to handle them appropriately, and those of us who don't ought to be held accountable for that no matter which party they're from. biden's stuffed in his garage or the documents that appear to have been down at mar-a-lago. when you make a mistake, you need to own it, neil, and i hope that everyone who takes this sacred duty of protecting this information will do that. neil: mike pompeo essentially saying of his former boss you made a a make and now -- mistake and now you have to own it. but, of course, this is a problem among both parties and former presidents who have taken documents and either lost or misplaced them, we suddenly find

them, and this back and forth goes on. gregg jarrett, our legal eagle, is out with a great new book, and and i'm going to get into that, "the trial of the century," but right now this could be sort of like the event of the century here, the first time in american history now a president is indicted on federal grounds here. so it's building up for donald trump. where do you see this going, gregg? >> well, i think the main issue is merrick garland trying to criminalize a civil statute, the presidential records act, which is the exclusive governing authority over presidential papers whether their classified or not -- they're classifieded or not. and the problem for garland is, it has been the longstanding position and standard the of the department of justice that a former president can keep whatever he wants including classified documents. and, in fact, the doj made that very argument in federal court in washington a decade ago in a

similar case with bill clinton and classified records. and the judge agreed completely and said not only is the national archives not an authority on presidential papers, but the doj has no right under the law to seize those documents from a former president. so -- neil: what if the former -- >> what's the difference between a decade ago -- neil: i'm sorry, what if the former president's saying he doesn't have those documents and then repeatedly when documents are found says, that's it, all i've got, and more documents are found? is there a distinction on the sheer volume we're talking about here or no? >> well, if you're going to talk about volume, there was more volume, you know, with joe biden's documents in four different locations. but, you know, the argument that trump will make is that you cannot obstruct a non-crime. and, you know, from his viewpoint the if he honestly believed that he was entitled to

keep these documents pursuant to the presidential records act, then he hasn't committed the crime of obstruction of justice which is a corrupt purpose. the supreme court calls it an evil, depraved intent. i think that's very hard for garland to prove in a court of law. neil: so when the president is saying, the former president is saying i don't have nearly these documents that you say that i have, turns out that he did and then they discover that there are other documents missing and as others have said, you could just turn those over then in that event and he didn't, was there an obstruction going on there in your legal eyes? >> if he's ea -- relying on the representations of the people who were examining the documents, and i doubt very much that, you know, trump is sitting around looking through boxes. but, you know, it sounds as if he relied on lawyers and others to go through these documents

and to segregate them. and if he relies on their representation, there's no specific intent to deceive on his part. neil: yeah. so when we have this tape, allegedly, gregg, as president i could have declassified but now i can't, referring to a very top secret document, i believe this is the one that,s you know, allegedly made the case for invading iran, but that, a,up shouldn't have been shared, shouldn't have been in miss e possession so long after -- in his possession so long after leaving office and shouldn't have been part of a discussion on whether they were declassified or not. >> yeah, i would want to know more of the context of the conversation -- neil: right. >> you know, it sounds like the if you've ever spent any time with the former president, you know, or sort of a top of mind, free-flowing, casual conversation. and i don't think that you can take a snippet of it and say this is literal proof of an intent to deceive and obstruct. neil: fair enough.

i finish your book, "trial of the century, gregg, and one of the things that amazing me -- amazed he about it, you brilliantly lay it out, this was a preview to wokism and what would classify being defined as a woke culture. at the time looking into this right to teach the evolution in public schools, at the time there was great resistance among those who were arguing for relying on the bible's teaching. but explain what that trial meant and where it has us now. >> well, there you see william jennings bryan, the great fundamentalist leader, who got all these laws passed banning books on science including evolution and in tennessee made it a crime for a teacher to teach out of the state-approved textbook on evolution. and john scopes was arrested. and there's clarence darrow, the

greatest trial lawyer who ever lived, addressing the jury. these photographs are from my book. and he saved the day. he saved civil liberties and free speech back then. and you're right, we're seeing an assault on free speech today, neil, and it's, you know, the old saying those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. and so, you know, we see today partisan censorship and political discord, silencing of dissent, classroom indoctrination, disinformation campaigns, and this sort of punitive cancel cultural under the guise of social justice so that, you know, conformity of thought now supplants robust debate. that is the antithesises of a free society, the exchange of ideas and information that darrow fought so hard for. neil: and in the case of william jennings bryan, put him on the stand, a three-time presidential candidate. >> yeah. think about this, the defense attorney calls his nemesis, the prosecutor, to the witness

stand. we can't do that, and darrow was counting on bryan's e ego and, sure enough, it stood up. your honor, i'm an expert on the bible, i'd be more than happy to tell the truth of the great book. and on cross-examination which was held outdoors, by the way, thousands of people looking on, a live radio audience nationwid- neil: oh, that's right, yeah. >> -- darrow utterly destroyed bye with january, so much so that a few days later he laid down for a nap and never woke up. neil: no, it's incredible how you build that up. what if the case had gone the other way. >> well, this point of fact -- in point of fact, scopes was convicted. darrow lost the case, but he won the larger argument, the court of public opinion. because america was paying careful attention to this. and it spelled -- it would have spelled the beginning of the end for banning books and

criminalizing the teaching of science, and it, you know, it opened wondrous doors for learning in america because darrow fought for the indispensable proposition that nobody should be told how to think. we need to be reminded of that -- neil: but that court precedent is still there, right? it does make you worry about what could happen despite the public opinion that it general rated from a case like that. -- generated from a case like that and the wokism today, right? >> oh, yeah. look at the amount of time that elapsed. the trial was 1925. it wasn't million the supreme court in 1968 -- until the supreme court in 1968 finally said you can't criminalize thicks, learning, and there must be a free exchange of ideas and information, and they stood on the first amendment. the establishment clause which, by the way, wasn't binding on the states back in 1925. so fascinating case. "the new york times"es called it the greatest courtroom

confrontation this anglo-saxon history, it still is today. neil: it still is today, and you bring it to life. it's "the trial of the century," gregg jarrett out with another one. it's a barn-burner, i know what you're thinking, what's the big deal? but what happened there, the reverberations since between how the public perceives something and a trial that gripped the nation, even the world, and how we still act and respond today. gregg, great job. look forward to talking to you again. gregg jarrett on that. we'll have more after this. introducing j.p. morgan personal advisors. hey david. connect with an advisor to create your personalized plan. let's find the right investments for your goals okay, great. j.p. morgan wealth management. ♪ i have type 2 diabetes, ♪ ♪ but i manage it well. ♪ ♪ it's a little pill with a big story to tell. ♪ ♪ i take once-daily jardiance, ♪ ♪ at each day's staaart. ♪

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philadelphia. i believe throughout this whole process better than 6,000 flights were delayed or outright canceled. their getting back to quasi-normal, whatever that is, but mark murphy here now i to help you with some options if you were among those getting bumped or that you wanted to cancel yourself because you didn't want to be around all that smoke. mark, what do you do? >> i think you always have to have a plan b, and you can always take advantage of that. whatever that may be. and so that's option a. option b is if your flight's canceled and it's not mission critical, the airline owes you a refund, so you can get a refund and just plan your trip at a later date. if you have to get there because it's business travel or a family event, a celebration with, you need to be there, then you'll just have have to figure out how you're going to get around it. sometimes it's literally driving an hour south to a different airport, so instead of philadelphia, fly out of atlantic city airport. if you're trying to get out of laguardia, laguardia's shut down, go up to the new haven area, you can fly out of there.

there's always an additional option, but it's going to require you to make the moves, that's why i always recommend booking no matter what you do in travel with a travel agent because they're your concierge, they take care of these problems when they happen. and the biggest issues with the airlines, people are wondering why is the smoke preparing the plane from flying? because particles interfere with ability to communicate with the ground radar, and you have to slow the planes down and space them out more. that creates that domino effect, and when you have cancellations as we've discussed in the past, or neil, you have this domino effect that takes two or three days to work out. so if you've got a cruise planned, this is the summer of travel disruptions. make sure that you have the ability to get out a few days earlier in case something like this comes up because worst case if you're going out of florida and you live in new york, you drive 18, 19 hours south and you still catch your cruise. but if you wait until the last day and they cancel your flight,

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how the financial guys who are back all the other guys play this, but what do you think? >> so it's really hard to say how this is going to impact things because donors don't necessarily indicate where votes are going to go. we saw in 2016 the money went to jeb bush -- neil: right. >> -- and he didn't go anywhere. hillary clinton got all the money in 2008 and still ram a ma won. barack obama won. so i think what we need to make sure of is that we're not chasing the money and following what american sentiment is, and american sentiment specifically with republicans still seems to be with donald trump, and it's fascinating. you look at the polling, and 63% of americans will say that this seems like a really serious issue, a serious crime. but when you break it down, that's 82% of democrats, 62 percent of independents and only 42% of republicans. so what's this say? republicans are standing by donald trump. and if that's the case, he could still go the distance no matter where the money goes is and no

matter what happens right now. david: -- neil: what if there is just legal case fatigue? that probably should have set in a long, long time ago, never did. but besides this latest case, there are others pending. they're almost backed up like planes at laguardia. [laughter] i'm just wondering if it gets to a point where you have to then schedule in your court appearances and trials, and this could get to be messy and could jeopardize republicans winning a general election if he were the nominee. what do you think? >> so i think it could get very, very messy. the interesting thing here is i think it will impact his ability to win in the general election. it might also increase his ability to win the primary. so it's sort of counterintuitive, because republicans the more they see this, the her they're saying there's a witch hunt. and when you look at this, 75% of republicans say that this should not disqualify him. 39% of republicans are saying no matter what happens here, they're going to stand by hill. many people on the republican

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charging system as their standard. it is assumed other carmakers will as well. gm and ford customers have access to 12,000 supercharging stations using adapter. the year after that they will be embedded in this is the reason tesla shares are up 11 days in a row. they are going to $300 a share. good news for tesla on the back of this news from gm. adam: the financial times said tesla was playing chess, everyone is playing checkers. their strategy, we will see how long. lauren: i wouldn't want to be a tesla owner behind gm and ford. lauren: getting pretty nasty. get out of the way. all right, lauren, thank you. "the big money show". taylor: i just