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the david rubinstein to the group. welcome, i'm neil kansas city cd happy to have you with us right now. go to another drama unfolding in china that seems to welcome entrepreneuring and billionaires and not so much u.s. politicians and one is on the way; right, edward? >> the ceo has a very warm welcome over the past couple of weeks and, yes, secretary of state antony blinken on sunday on his way to china and china seems to be dictating the terms of the visit and only seeing unnamed chinese officials and this image from today the chinese have put together an image between a meeting with bill gates and chinese president xi. china orchestrated this dichotomy with what we'll see on sunday and bill gates announcing

a $50 billion organization supporting disease and medicine research with china and the chinese president called gates an old friend. >> very honored to have the chance to meet and we've always had great conversations and we'll have a lot of important topics to discuss today. i was very disappointed, i wouldn't come during these last four years. so very exciting to be back. >> stu, we saw the large chinese air ship and cut off between u.s. and asia and 26gop lawmakers and china taking $26 billion out of the u.s. economy and crushing small businesses and experts think there needs to be meetings and more public pushback. >> we had that with the soviet union even in the darkest times of the cold war, but i agree it

should not be that we're just begging for a relationship when china mass one provocation after another. >> there's been no stern public actions to rebuke what china has been doing and they continue to test the u.s. on all fronts. neil. neil: that you can't, edward. edward lawrence at the white house. the republican of virginia rob whitman joinings now. not a big fan of the kowtowing he and others think is going on and dealing with china. specifically as you know, congressman, we've got secretary of state on his way there. we are told that xi jinping has no intention of meeting with him but just met with bill gates. what do you make of that? >> i can guarantee you the conversation with bill gates didn't involve anything of substance. i guarantee he didn't talk to xi jinping about human rights

abuses, about gene genocide or the theft of intellectual properties from companies like microsoft or aggressive aircraft interceptions from the air defensive zones or the ship encounters in the south china sea. china want this is all a visual and they don't want substance. they want appearance and that's disturbing part of this. same with secretary blinken going over there. there's no preconception to the visit f. you visit china, there needs to be preconditions and advertised so people know what we're going to do and expecting as an outcome of the discussions. neil: what's weird, congressman, and it's like we're living in opposite worlds, the chinese love to meet with the business titans and not so much the politicians and in the united states, we tend to want to meet with politicians and heads of state at the white house. not so much foreign ceos, billionaire or not. it's weird, and china is making

it very clear, we prefer your rich guys and not politician guys. what do you make of that? >> i think it's because they've enabled -- been able to get the business leaders and tech companies to capitulate and force them to do things otherwise they know our government would not agree to. i think they look at it as a sympathetic audience. they know when talking to policymakers here they're very stern and direct position that we have on both sides of the aisle, neil, about what we are going to do with policy towards china. we're not tolerating this aggressive behavior, behavior that's meant to harm the united states. xi doesn't want to be asked the hard questions. he want as friendly audience and sees bill gates as an old friend. that's why they gravitate towards those leaders and not government officials that will ask the tough questions. neil: it's not just bill gates. he's the latest but not the last or the first. tim cook was there trying to secure good relations and of course we've seen numerous times

elon musk and i'm wondering whether we have to send a message to ceos or those that might be in one way shape or form representing the united states cooler than the grumbling. >> i think we do and we need to send a clear message too across this nation to businesses to say not just cozying up to the chinese but also their capitulation and handling over intellectual property and how investments are taking place in chinese companies directly tied to ccp and chinese bonds that go to fund the ccp. neil, we're funding the wolf that goes to eat us. this has to stop. neil: how does it stop in seems that china by trying to woo all the business leaders and that's their bread and butter. think they'd draw the connection that better relations with us is the bread and butter and seems

they're in the driver seat at least economicically they need us more than we need them. >> that's exactly the case, neil. i think our companies are so captured by the fact they can't walk from 1.4 billion people in the marketplace in china and what they're log give up to get that is harmful in the businesses in the united states and we have to stand strong against xi jinping because their focus is to destroy the united states. it's not a friendly competition. for folks saying this is a strategics competition. it is not. look at what china is doing against united states' interest around the world f. we give in, they'll continue to weaken us and one day we're going to wake and you happen go how did we get here. it's because it's like death by a thousand cuts and stand strong and go, no, we're not doing those things. we're not giving in or standing for handing over intellectual property and not standing for the investments that go to fund

chinese companies that unfairly compete against the united states. i mean, in every turn you look at this and go this is failed policy. we've got to get the policy right and stand strong to china. if not, their behavior is not going to change. neil: see what happens. congress wittman, have a good weekend. >> thanks, neil. neil: uncanny market watcher and china watcher as well. the backdrop to this, gary, is china just cut interest rate this is week, a teeny bit, to spur a economy that's sort of bumping along. the timing of us sort of forcing an issue would seem perfect now. they've got some problems, we might, might be coming out of ours. what do you think? >> here's the problem, we talk a lot and they act a lot. what china has been doing across the world partnering and outright buying of ports and all kinds of businesses, they

just -- they close their ears and open eyes and doing their thing. what you're talking about there, they are $17 trillion economy and the no. 3 economy in the world is about 4 trillion and they're garmin began shun and see business leaders going there and hush hush knowing they need to do business there and especially like apple that has a huge percentage of their business there. the only thing that's changed is the dependency on them so some companies are moving their manufacturing away and going elsewhere. that's about the only thing that's happened except for that and just a lot of chatter. neil: i want to focus on market chatter and looks like potentially the third up week in a row for the major markets for disease knack, that's been on a -- nasdaq has been on a tear and helped the aggregate stocks and appears to be broadening out to smaller stocks and the like. what do you make of where we stand right now? >> if you would have told me a few months ago that the fed would be at 5%, i would have

told you the dow would be at 3500, but something happened in the last few months. first it started off with the mega gap tech and then as we entered may, we got the nvidia day and that just was a sonic boom for other technologies, software and a artificial intelligence to the point that microsoft is stating an extra $100,000100 billion in revenue 7 and on june 2, i put a note out and broad market woke up and it was comatose and a lot of things at new yearly lows and things like caterpillar was dead and the whole group has woken up and what's happened is the market has come to the recognition that the job market is staying strong so the consumer will be in shape for now. i still worry about all that debt out there. and away we go. i don't think you want to argue with it as i do my scan every night, it really looks good and seems like new leadership is

come together forefront on a daily basis. neil: ai seems like the modern day emersion of the internet and a lot of companies were part of that runup when it came to the internet boom that made a dramatic 180 in the melt down. are investors being pulled in by something that it might sort out winners and losers a lot sooner than we think? >> that's 100% certainty and pretenders when all is said and done and nvidia doing $4 to have $5 billion in revenue than expected out of nowhere and stock gap is up monstrously, that's the institutions and the big money knowing that something good is going on. i think there's big --

neil: sorry, my friend. would you dive into a nvidia at these levels now? the same was said of amazon at the early days the stock didn't justify what was going on and it was losing money and revenues are one thing and didn't earn a penny. very different with nvidia and what would you tell investors that say i might have missed the nvidia boat? >> it's our biggest stock position right now and bought just under 400 after the gap and not before. there's a rule that we follow: companies that blow out earnings in sales because something great is going on, usually lead the way going forward. that's why we're pretty much concentrated in this area right now. names like oracle and microsoft and google-involved. anybody that's big time in ai, i think it'll be meaningful for the next few months if not longer as far as making money and again, downed rote, you got to be very careful about the speculators. every company now is announcing some sort of ai whether they do

or not and that's where you've got to be careful and the internet went from 200 down to zero in short order in 2003 to '03. neil: i worry this ai thing gets ahead. box of cereal, made with ai. wait a minute. you're the best, my friend. thank you very much. gary kaltbaum. >> thank you. neil: the field for presidential republicans getting bigger and bigger and francis suarez is the laterrest getting involved. he's generating an enormous amount of buzz and still a very young man, after this. ♪

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neil: what is it about the sunshine state that third florideans to join the presidential contest on the republican side. with me right now is the mayor of miami, francis suarez and joins the likes ophryon desantis and the governor, donald trump who calls florida his home. mayor, good to have you. >> good to be with you, neil. neil: there's all sorts of

gossip back and forth why you're doing this and one politico piece says you're entering this to muck things up for ron desantis. not so much about donald trump who so far hasn't said anything bad about you as he often cause with candidates that join the race. what say you? >> i'm running for president because i have a unique vision for the country and track record of success and positive inspirational message for the future. my track regard starts with reducing taxes in my city, bringing back fiscal sanity and our city was broke whistled first got elected and we have the most reserves, highest bond rating in history, and just got upgraded in the middle of the fiscal chief debate in washington. that's part of it. the part is we used our resource in a targeted fashion to increase funding for police while other cities defunded their police and for that reason, we have the lowest homicide rate last year since

1964. i was born in 977. 177. this year we're 40% below that number and neil, i talked a lot on your show, i focus on process perty and create the kind of economy for my children and unborn grandchildren that leans into innovation and we're number one in the nation in wage growth, number one in tech job growth and lowest unemployment in america. that is the kind of pro america story that will allow us to compete with the chinas into the next generation. neil: a little bit about that, you talk about this from your perch as mayor of miami. critics have said that that job, as important as it is and largely ceremonial one. i had a chance to catch up with carlos jimenez looks at that as un-qualifier for you running for president. i want you to react. >> i won't support francis suarez and think he's a complete fraud. why? because he voted for hillary clinton, he voted for andrew

gillum and joe biden and what universe did a person that vote that had way in the past gets the republican nomination? there's many other things about francis suarez. he waives a really good deal -- weaves a really good tale and i'll never support him as president. neil: he talks about your role as mayor and get as little personal here and i wanted to talk a bit about who you've backed in the past. with ron desantis, you didn't back him but the other mayor. you backed him in the effort in 20226789 for donald trump, you didn't support him in 2016 or 2020. so what's to stop republicans from hearing that and saying, he's not one of us. >> first of all, you haven't made it till you have a hater. it's nice to have a hater, which

means i'm relevant. you don't want to necessarily be someone from your backyard but i think congressman gimenez forgets he's the one that voted for ted cruz in 2016. hillary clinton in 2016. i voted for a republican in 2016 and voted for a republican in 2020, wrote in marco rubio and mike pence no 2020. neil: neither time did you write in or vote for donald trump; right? he was at the head of the ticket as republican standard bearer. why not? just curious? >> no, i didn't. i didn't. i voted for the person who i thought would be best to be president at that time. so you led the program by talking about am i really running for president and i'm telling you i am and the reasons why i am. the other misconception was i supported andrew gillum. i didn't support andrew gillum and didn't raise money for him or endorse him? neil: you voted for him? >> i voted for him and i'll tell

you why, i gave money to ron desantis in that primary, same primary where he says of president trump that he helped him when it wasn't smart to help him. i never got a phone call saying thank you. i never got a follow up. i never got a, hey, would you like so arkansas to support me or endorse me? there was no relationship built and frankly lost my city by 26 points and barely won that governor's race and turned on the person that endorsed him and the people who helped him like susie walls and others. that to me and by the way in his reelection and that was the best candidate and did a fundraiser for him right after this election and he came to my law office and raised money for the party and he was there. stuart: the rising star in your party and it's unmistakable. neil: ron desantis can say when i was running for reelections in

2022 and got almost 60% of latino vote. who needs this guy. what do you say? >> well, my contrast, when i got elected in 2017, i got elected by 87%. the year before democrats won miami dade county by 30 points. last year republicans won miami dade by 46 points and reelected by 80% in the middle. let's put that with jacksonville where the governor was the former congressman and supported the may recall candidate for the democrat by 46 points and the prior republican mayor curry won by 24 points and that's a negative 30 point almost swing for democrats in his former congressional district and my policies in miami of keeping taxes low, keeping people safe and leaning into innovation is what created prosperity and wage growth. lowest unemployment and that's what motivated people to support conservative and republican candidates and i like to make a

difference and sometimes he likes to make a statement. neil: talk about not necessarily fitting the party mold and that's a huge problem and neither does donald trump but you have talked about climate change and what it's doing to miami what do you say? >> definitely not a typical washington politician, that's for sure. what i would say for us is our environment is part of our economy. we need fresh drinking water from the everglades in order to provide for us to live. we've received money from republican legislature and a republican government in our state. frankly more than what we see from the infrastructure bill that was passed by joe biden. we have hurricanes and weather viruses and we had hurricane andrew that had 200 miles an hour winds and changed our building codes and adapted to

that natural phenomena and we're the most wind resilient city in the world. i think you can't put your head in the sand and pretend you're everyone and can't put your head in the sand and pretend the hurricanes don't alpharetta happen and don't have the luxury for blaming somebody else. you have to solve the problem and that's what i've done as major and i'll continue to do as president. neil: i want your reaction, sir, to the justice department accusing the minneapolis police department of rampant discrimination, unlawful conduct and pretty scathing 89 page report and they want a crackdown on the police department that's overdone it. since you dealt within the floyd uprisings with killing and responding strongly to that. what message are you sending as a candidate for president. the justification on the crackdown on the minneapolis police. >> many message i'm sending as

police officers have the hardest job in america. it should never be political to support the men and women in our law enforcement and they get paid the least amount of money with the most scrutiny and risk of anyone in the united states. i'll tell you that in the city of miami, we came out from a justice department investigation under my leadership as mayor. last year we had 235 officer-related complaints against 330,000 citizen interactions and less than one tenth of one percent and i would challenge anyone in corporate america to deliver that level of service. neil: the justice department saying that did not happen in minneapolis and the investigation by the justice department found what they call systemic abuse by police that made what happened to george floyd possible. what do you think of that? >> i haven't dug into the minneapolis investigation that i can tell you we are under a justice department investigation, and i'm proud of

the fact that we implemented accountability with our officers and by the way, they want that accountability and they understand that it only takes one bad incident in the city to be a problem and we've got a great department and i'm very proud of the way that we've let our department -- led our department and we've led our department in terms of officer-related conduct and we've done it by keeping our residents safe, and that is the primary duty of a police department. neil: mayor, i know you have a very busy schedule and we appreciate the time. the next generation of leereds in the country and i'm paraphrasing here and best i can tell, you're 45 and still a young man. i have ties older than you. ron desantis is 44. he's actually younger than you. were you referring that next generation to donald trump, to joe biden or ron desantis that's a year younger? >> no, i think what i'm

referring to is i gave a speech yesterday at ronald reagan library and i want to be defined for what i'm for. not necessarily what i'm against and i also want to be defined by generational opportunities and if you want to be generational it's not just a buzz word and something tough do and i've done by positioning any city in a way that has attracted $3 trillion in assets under manage companie- neil: sorry, if you're in your 70s or 820, is it time to go out to pasture, shouldn't be running for president? >> well, i think it's a lot hard tore be able to shift the economy of a country into the dynamic opportunities that exist particularly in this moment, which i think is a four generation, quad generational moment of disruption. it's really hard to understand it. we've seen the failure of the federal government under biden's america to be able to pivot and to legislate late properly against these economic opportunities. neil: mayor, we'll watch closely

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me back. it was in 2011 that steve jobs introduced siri with iphone 4 and ten years ago for okay google and we're seeing the realization of that dream and this is the digital secretary, digital assistant that we've always wanted and it's going to be in our cards and it'll be in our phones and it's going to be on our laptops and that's what we're seeing here. this is going to be absolutely awesome for people going on road trips and today, you can ask siri or doggett going toll write you a text message and it gets it wrong all the time and limitations to technology and this will be right all the time. neil: how do you know that it's in my car and taking over my car. i think i'm an expert and saw a 2001 space odyssey and didn't end too well. >> yeah, last time we talked about howell and i want to talk about rosie the robot from jet

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neil: it's a treat to get the chance to talk to david rubinstin and he recollects making that on earth and cofounder of the carlisle group and investing and talking to brainiaks and drawing attention and mentioning to a prior guest and it does feel like the internet boom and that thrives today and a lot of big names touted at times fell by the wayside. are you worried that this is getting ahead of itself? >> when anything gets as much attention to the gold rush and

worry about whether some companies are going to be there and some of the large companies, microsoft and google clearly know what they're doing and leaders in artificial intelligence and some startup is hard to know and it's clearly the area they're investing in and picking the right company and right time to invest is the trick. neil: do you worry some of them like elon musk and others is a pause? generally they have to agree to a pause. if china isn't pausing, we shouldn't pause and that's the argument. what do you think? >> i think everybody should move forward with ai and do it with caution and nothing is going to solve all the line and the computer and obviously something that's going to change the way we live or change the way our children live the way you and i live. neil: i'm wondering if we're getting a little ahead of the -- it's in our cars or mercedes cars and don't know how that works. but i don't what he what happens

next. >> the one thing i like to point out is the phrase artificial intelligence invented in 1 # 56 and -- 1956 and it's not artificial but enhanced human intelligence and humans were putting this together and not like it's come from the. >> it is the result of people programming things and it's not completely artificial in some sense, but it's clearly going to make life easier for some people and it is worrying that some people will unemploy other people and all technology coming along tends to unemploy some and enhance the opportunity of others. this is what happened with the internets and smart ph phones ad happening with a and i recollects we don't know who will lose their jobs and get new jobs as a result of this. neil: the test case for some of these chat rooms or whatever to put a question and see what it could produce. it made a lot of serious mistakes in the beginning. what marveled me was how quickly it adapted and changed and got

it right. i mean, i'm talking literally within minutes. >> asking something from the artificial intelligence software programs and a question and asking the same question ten minutes later and get the same answer and updating the same information it has. neil: ask the identity question and it was getting certain details missed, it has corrected those details and i don't know how it did it. >> artificial intelligence and not supposed to know. if you and i really understood it, the world would be in trouble because we're not supposed to be the experts in it and people made a really good study of this and know what they're doing and we have to use this with caution and the federal government should at some point regulate this. neil: don't you worry when the federal government tickses something it doesn't have the knowledge or the breath to

determine it, ronald reagan said the most dangerous words in the english language are from the federal government and i'm here to help you. whenever the federal government helps you, you have to be cautious and shouldn't rush into it and study it and the area should as well. some regulation before we go off the deep end of artificial intelligence. neil: switch to politics and money going into a lot of candidates that think they have a shot 09 becoming the next president of the next president in the united states and racing on the republican side is it and looks to be eclipsing to the number of 2016. what do you think of that? in 2016 there were 17 people running in the republican nomination and ultimately only one person get it is and why do people run? well, obviously people have egos and a lot of people think they're qualified and some think they're not going to be the nominee and want to increase the nominee and speaking fees and engagement. no doubt about that? neil: some can defy the odds and we remember that jimmy carter

fellow and not pulling this time. >> nobody heard of him and southern governor and peanut farmer by trade and can happen and anybody thinks they might be jimmy carter and he wasn't possible to be president of the united states and abraham lincoln and people laughed at him too. everybody thinks they might catch lignin and in the end, people have to be realistic about it, a lot of people running are not going to be president of the unit and not going to be the nominee. in our country, you don't get criticized for running for president so much and get to be well known and some people like that. neil: the latest emphasizing the age of the young guy and a year older and ron desantis and the young men and they could be the sons of either donald trump and joe biden but the call in their message is clear and we're the new generation. >> if reran in three decades 30 years from now, younger than joe biden and donald trump. it's a big generation gap but

remember, john kennedy was elected at 43 and bill clinton was elected at 46 and barack obama at 47 and being in your 40s is a sweet spot. spot. neil: what do you think of vivek ramaswamy at 37? >> the age minimum is 35. but 37 probably not going to elect somebody at that age who isn't as well known. neil: okay. of the race the way it stands now, going just by polls that you've also reminded me that can change, donald trump is running away with the republican one. but there could be more cases and more indictments. this could have a drag on him. do you think it will? >> at the moment, his core base of 30% or so in the republican party seems to be staying with him and so if he has many opponents and he only needs 30% to get a morality, and the odds today if you go to las vegas and say who's the likely person to be republican nominee? probably donald trump. who's the most likely for the

democratic know knee? probably joe biden and most likely those would be the candidates against each other and life always has changes and what you think will happen, doesn't always happen. remember, it's many months away and today if i had to bet they'd be the nominees and don't -- can't say for fern and wouldn't bet my last dollar on it. neil: the consensus building bug that donald trump could get the republican nomination and getting that elected and main street republicans and carl roves and overs saying no, no, no. >> same thing in 2016, he could never be elected. >> far in war some type and international war of some time and it's an issue and the american people working and

worrying about their pocketbook and inflation and high interest rates and the economy is very important and there's no doubt there's an age factor and both candidates together would be two oldest people ever republicanning for -- running for united states president again. neil: i don't believe i see the recession coming and i don't see it coming right now. >> me either. neil: i see steady job growth and not here to politicize this and right now inflation coming down half the pace from last year and it's got a ways to g i get that. but we're seeing a busy consumer and strong retail sales and that's the sustainable one and it seems to gain traction and 17 months and a lot of time to gain more traction and to reverse and if that improvement continues, that's going to be in american's minds. >> never can predict the economy and likely with the fed increasing and interest rates again this year. maybe twice and seems the

consensus coming down from 8% to 4% and the fed would get to 2% which is hard to do. we don't see it in our numbers any diminution in sales from mayor companies and consumers spending like it's going out of time and restaurants are up and sporting events. neil: argument is that's fleeting and letting all steam from covid. it's been going on for awhile. >> right now events travel is above what it was pre-covid. pre-covid. so it's a much above what it was in 2019 and the u.s. government is now predicting that the gdp rate for this year at 1%. could be a bit higher than that. it's not a recession. neil: got it. i just want to warn you because you're always watching out for your pennys, we've reported on airlines now imposing a $75 fee on your first bag. i know next time you get on a jet, i just want to warn you that bag you're carrying, $75. >> i'm having to travel without bags now.

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it's a little late but an estimated $23 billion will be spent this big day. that's up considerably from last year but hate to break it to you fellow dads. moms are still doing much better. significantly much better, which can only lead me to believe that moms are loved and dads are not. i don't know if that's true, but i know right now i've got madison hawthorn with me, lydia hu, a mom herself. lydia, what is it about dads that just at a minimum celebrate we're being recognized. moms are saying, beat you big time. more money. >> i will apologize on behalf of all the moms out there like me, two little ones you're taking care of and you're working -- neil: oh, here we go. >> sometimes father's day sneaks up on us. we'll try to make it up to you. i've not gone out and made any purchasing moving towards this spending on you.

neil: is your husband watching right now? >> i hope not. getting nothing. so far nothing. >> i've one upped lydia and reservations are set and dad, can't wait to see you. i'm not a dad and glad you had me onto talk about father's day and my physician of knowledge on this subject. i'm not a mom either. jamie very much an adult child of theirs now. neil: mom or dad is your favorite? >> no comment. what they want is time, which is invaluable. neil: absolutely. >> you can't get that in junior survey of money spent -- your survey of money spent and going for doctor's day. neil: make it clear while we're there, lydia, you have to wrap it up. >> how early my report is monday morning if i'm waking up with

"mornings with maria," we have to wrap it up but i'll give fox the full night. neil: lydia, popular moms lemore we do all the work and husbands think it's a big deal with the day set aside for them and don't do much. by comparison, is that wrap fair that father's just on the as involved in >> no, i don't think that's fair at all. i mean -- neil: you haven't gotten your husband a gift. >> we're working on that and i'll write the ship. i have like 48 hours so far. don't count me out yet. neil: you have two little ones? >> yeah, the wheels are moving and we're moving in the right direction and i think that fathers deserve all the credit in the world for sharing in the household responsibility, at least my husband does in my own house. neil: talk to that guy. >> he's a fantastic father and wakes the kids up and takes them to school. he's also at home usually before i am. neil: well, look at the time. guys, really, have a wonderful big day. >> happy father's day, neil.

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