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but a new nbc news poll showing an overwhelming 74% of voters believe america is on the wrong track. nbc news reports that the last time we had approval ratings that low were in 1992 and 2008 and in both of those cases, the party that controlled the white house lost it. with me now is republican presidential candidate vivek ramaswamy. vivek great to see you. thank you for being we're. do you think biden can win with numbers like these? >> i do not believe that biden is on track to win this election but i also believe we and republican party cannot afford to just deliver a 50.1% margin. this is an election where we need to win in a landslide and i think we can. like what reagan delivered in 1980 this is what we have an opportunity to do in 2024. there's an analogy between jimmy carter and joe biden. this is our moment to step up and actually capitalize on it, with a moral mandate and david that's what i'm in this race to

deliver. david: well the question is what issue would best create that sort of mandate and i'm just wondering if the next president is going to win solely on the economy? do you think the economy is the overwhelming issue that will push this election? >> i think there's two issues. economically at home we should economically grow again as a country. that's the top issue. i think in the long run americans are also concerned about our security. declaring independence from communist china, i think, is important to americans on both sides of the aisle. we should not be dependent on our enemy for our modern way of life and that's something even reagan did not face with the us sr in the last century but those two issues and i think we and the republican party and my candidacy in particular are on the right side of those issues. this should be a landslide election. david: vivek you're a great businessman, you made a lot of money all on your own. when you look at the economy, what do you think is the biggest problem facing the economy and other businesses right now?

>> we're slated to grow at less than 1% gdp growth this year. for most of our national history , we've been at four or higher. the good news is we know how to get there. first is unlock american energy. drill. frac. burn coal, embrace nuclear, do it without apology. second. the top obstacle to businesses growing right now, ask any business owner, it is finding people to staff open positions. easy solution, let's stop paying them to stay-at-home. that's fueled an epidemic of laziness across the economy, and david the third thing i would add is reform of the federal reserve. i would restore a single mandate of stabilizing the u.s. dollar. the volatility of the dollar has also been an obstacle to gdp growth. david: vivek in that number two issue the question of the labor force, what has happened in the labor force particularly since the pandemic? and there were all those programs to make it easier for people to stay-at-home and not to go out and work.

we saw the lowering of the participation rate in the labor force. people like fred smith, the founder of fedex says that's one of his biggest problems is a labor force not motivated that not only lacks training but motivation. it's not something easy to get your fingers on. how would you address that? >> so this is what my campaign is really all about david which is reviving our national pride and our sense of self-confidence as a country. yes, it's true. we tend to be more confident and more proud when we're making more money. that's why i'm the pro-growth candidate but it works the other way as well. we economically prosper more when we rediscover who we really are as americans, and especially the next generation. i'm a millennial. i'm 37. i'm the first millennial ever to run for u.s. president as a republican. the thing that's going on in my generation is that we're so hungry and staved for a cause, for purpose and meaning and identity that we need leadership

like reagan did in 1980 is what i'm running to do now. reviving ourself-confidence and sense of purpose about who we are as americans. we see that in the epidemic of depression and anxiety and effectively the quiet quitting crisis that we have in the workplace in the culture of laziness and the american workforce as well. david: it's motivation. the motivation a lot of people are saying i'm not the right skin color to get special deals. i'm not the right this or that or whatever woke preference is used depending on the labor force that you're looking at. that really kicks into the whole idea of america as being a placed where you're judged by the merit and quality of your work, not by who you are and what you represent. >> you nailed it david and i think that's where these two separate issues, wokeness and national identity on one hand, and the economy on the other. these aren't separate issues. they are inextricably intertwined. when companies hire not the best

person for the job but somebody who checks the right quota system, when companies aren't focused on making good products and services for their customers and making money, but instead focused on emissions caps, and racial equity audits instead. that actually shrinks the size of the pie too. so my vision is we have to restore our national identity. our sense of who we are, as americans. be proud of that again in our country, and then the rest of it becomes easier. taking the hamstrings and the shackles off the u.s. energy sector. dismantling the administrative state that's the source of the regulations that act as a wet blanket on businesses across this country. those are the tactics, but it all starts with reviving that missing national identity and that's what my campaign is all about. david: you come from an immigrant background. there's a question of how we can change our immigration system which is totally out of control right now. one of the thing that the administration in power says that i agree with is that we do have terrible immigration laws. what about changing doing something that donald trump

wanted to do which was turn it into a merit-based system. we're talking about meritocracy how we need to get back to that. what if we apply rules to immigrants who want to come here that the skill that they have to match what we need in a workforce. what do you think of the merit system there? >> i've been a long time advocate of merit-based immigration. there's two components to merit though david both are important. one are skills. requirement to make economic contributions to the country. but the other requirement is a civic commitment to the country as well, so i would take that citizenship test on the back end to become a voting citizen. bring that up to the front end. immigrants who come to this country knowing something about the country. valuing the civic commitments that they make to this country, understanding the principles of the constitution. a that's for people who have taken the time and effort to actually learn it and b, people who actually bring that revival of national spirit, that we're lacking in the country so that's one way i take that to the next level when i'm leading this

country. david: vivek we're running out of time but i have to ask you one question about your chief competitor here donald trump. he says that the charges against him, the indictments and more indictments to come, are just based on a desire by the powers that be to keep him from running for president in a way he could win the presidency. what do you say to his charge? >> i think that the two indictments so far and i believe i read them based on the facts and the law, i do believe they are fundamentally politicized. that's why i've said if i'm elected president i would pardon trump but the top reason why is that i want to move forward as a country. we're not going to deliver that economic progress or that national pride if we're all looking in the rear view mirror with our own grievances. we have to move forward as a country and even though i'm a competitor of trump and it be easier for me if he weren't in this race that's not the way i want to see him eliminated. i stand on principle and i'd lead this country accordingly. david: great to see you. safe travels.

it's a busy roadway out there as we approach july 4. thanks for being with us today. appreciate it. >> thank you, david. david: well, democrat senator and former presidential candidate amy klobuchar attempt ed to defend president biden's record while deflecting from the latest hunter biden scandal. watch. >> you think it was appropriate for hunter biden to be at the same event as the attorney general merrick garland was in the same week he accepted a plea deal? >> you know, i think as the president explains that's his son, that's a separate thing if that's what the republicans want to run on, in the coming election, good luck, because the president is going to be able to run on the strength of his work and bringing 13 million jobs back to america. david: well we'll fact check that particular statistic coming up but as biden's poll numbers keep dropping, can voters just focus on the presidents policies or will hunter be a hot button issue for 2024?

with me now is former deputy assistant attorney general tom d upree. first of all what more is there to come? we had these bombshells last week. i know that's an over used phrase but it's true with regard to the text message from hunter to a chinese associate, a guy affiliated with the ccp saying my father's right here and we both want to know when we're going to get paid. if there's more stuff like that coming out, how could this not be a hot button topic in 2024? >> i agree 100% with you david and lack that's the fascinating thing about the story which just grows more intriguing by the day in fact by the hour. when hunter biden announced the plea deal and his lawyers announced a plea deal they tried to portray this as this is the final chapter. it's all wrapped up. he's been given a clean bill of health. that may have been a little premature. the prosecutor himself said that the investigation into hunter biden continues. it looks as though the republicans on the hill are starting up the investigation

gears to try to figure out exactly what's been going on behind the scenes at the justice department for five years this investigation has lasted so i suspect there is at least another shoe to drop. maybe multiple shoes. david: by the way, slow walking this prosecution has nullified a number of the charges the "wall street journal" wrote about that today and they said because of the u.s. attorney waited so long to make it prosecutorial decision six year statute of limitations expired. hunter thus will not pay taxes on more than $400,000 in unreported income for these years. so certainly it looks like the advantage was all to hunter by slow-walking this prosecution >> yeah, look there's no question time was on his side, because acts that potentially could have been criminal at the time they were committed and could have been criminal in the intervening five years now thanks to the passage of time are no longer criminal and that's one often during myster ies of this case, david is i can not think of that many

investigations into the justice department that lasted for more than five years and that ended with a wimper when you're talking about such potentially serious charges and evidence that we've already seen reported in the media. david: getting back to how this will affect the 2024 election. the president is always claiming the moral high ground on taxes. he's always talking about a fair share. everybody has to pay their fair share. hunter skipped out on $400,000 because of the statute of limitations. biden himself, joe biden and his wife claimed $500,000 in deductions on an s-corp. which was really basically a book deal he got paid a lot of money for. wasn't an s-corp. so i mean, where is his claim to high principles on taxes when you see issues like hunter and himself? >> well it's not existent. look, need less to say it's very difficult on one hand to be pounding the moral drum and saying that everyone has to pay

their fair share of taxes. everyone has to do their part. at the same time, your son is the poster boy, is exhibit a for tax evasion. so it's a mixed message. i think there's a bit of hypocrisy here and it's going to basically take the issue effectively off the table in the campaign as a message for the president. david: tom we have 10 seconds but question of impeachment. senator cruz says we should, the house should vote for it but obviously, there aren't enough votes in the senate for a conviction. what do you think? >> i would give it a little time david. i would see what the prosecutor has to say. i would see what we can learn about what's going on at the justice department and the irs and then make a decision on impeachment based on the facts and the evidence that gets uncovered. david: perfect thank you very much good to see you appreciate it. well, we have americans for tax reforms grover norquist coming up, the high cost of biden's electrical vehicle push and government not just telling you what to eat, but how to eat it. now, blue city regulations taking a bite out of the iconic

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david: well, questions remain over whether the biden administration's economic agenda is paying off. their plan is to highlight

government spending on electrical vehicles but so far, it's falling pretty flat for u.s. automakers who are reporting billions of dollars in losses for ev's. edward lawrence is at the white house with more on all this. edward? reporter: exactly, david and the presidents messaging he's in charge of a booming economy going forward, now the poll numbers for nbc news the latest poll is showing 74% of people leave the country is going in the wrong direction, 20% only believe it's going in the right direction from the president, government spending fixes everything. that's his belief. this is how president joe biden justifies spending. some $5.8 trillion he signed into law over the past 28 months , he believes the last administration failed at invest ing in the economy. listen. >> core sources of economic strength like infrastructure, manufacturing, and innovation and all that is the result of failed economic policy i call trickle down economics. it was called trickle down economics as well and i believe

we should give tax cuts to the very wealthy and big corporation s and expect to trickle down to everyone else, benefit across-the-board. reporter: but you see where cpi inflation went under this president. it's still double where the federal reserve wants it. we heard from democrats, corporate greed is to blame so i wanted to know if the president is still believe that as he met with ceo's here at the white house last friday. listen. >> but during the pandemic, as you know, we saw profit margins increase to historic high levels and we expect that as profit margins fall to more historically normal levels inflation should moderate further as well. >> the president confront the ceo's here today about that? >> i'm not going to get into private conversations that the president has had but i just laid out how we see the future as it relates to profit margins and i'll just leave it there. reporter: yeah, leave it there too, david. the white house opening this new messaging will help his poll numbers back to you. david: edward thank you very much for that let's go right to

grover norquist president of americans for tax reform. grover great to see you. as we're looking at these number s of biden's abysmal approval rating for his handling of the economy i just got to bring it back to they're blaming corporations now for everything. government is the solution for everything. they invest much better in the private sector and in fact, the private sector is responsible for inflation. i mean, that's really kind of a hard charge to prove is it not? >> yes, and continuing to say it didn't work for the emperor with the new clothes that weren't there. he can say it all he wants but people everyday walk past gas stations that tell you inflation continues. 5% inflation may-over-may. we have been losing real income. americans, the average american has been poorer because the inflation that biden put in

is higher than the wage increases which don't keep up with inflation, and his solution is to take the corporate income tax in the united states higher than chinas. how does that help us compete? he wants to take our capital gains tax, the tax on investment in the future, to twice as high as communist china. that'll help us compete. he wants to tax oil and natural gas, again. he wants to tax on your life savings. on wealth which isn't constitutional. will be struck down but he seems to think if you're saving too much money and the government steals it and spends it that the economy will -- david: i think there's something else going on here. when he starts to blame companies for inflation, there's a solution to that and it's called price controls, and we've seen both republicans and democrats in history have terrible failure with price controls but it sounds great. okay corporations are responsible for inflation. we stop them with price controls

from raising prices, but of course what happens then? we always have shortages because companies will not produce anything unless they make a profit, right? >> yes, and you do wonder, was he not paying attention when the republican tax cut of 2017 fully kicked in. in 2019 the median income wage for a family of four went up by 6.8% in one year. that's more real growth than all eight years of obama. lower taxes brings growth and real income to real people. infrastructure is a french word which means everything except roads, okay? the government throws money up in the air and calls it infrastructure. they are putting money to broadband. $100 million is going into rural broadband in washington d.c. washington d.c. david: right. we're going to talk about that. finally, you know, there's a man named kennedy running for president on the democratic

side. his uncle, jfk, who was president, lowered tax rates with enormous success. by the way there's a shameless picture with his shirt off doing push ups he looks pretty good for a 69-year-old that's about my age and i wish i looked that good but the bottom line is this is a guy who comes from a democratic heritage of tax cutters. do you think he would likely follow the biden line if he was elected president or his uncle 's line? >> since he wasn't doing yoga but push ups i think he be in the tax cut part. david: i think you're right. great to see you thank you very much my friend. well the short-lived revolt revealing cracks in president putin's grip on powers trump slams biden's handling of russia and china accusing democrats of pushing the two nations together , which indeed they seem to be right now. we have general jack keane with us with more on this coming next >> not even believable that russia and china be together.

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[cheers and applause] >> [applause] david: those were russian citizens cheering on wagner mercenaries after they called off the mutiny against vladimir putin. they left some towns as heros. fox news is at the state department with more. jillian? reporter: hi david. the state department here just briefed reporters and they offer ed a couple of interesting incites that they don't know right now the whereabouts of prigozhin nor do they know where the 25,000 troops

under his command are now headed they also declined to call what transpired over the weekend a co up. president biden earlier today said it's really too soon to tell much of anything. take a listen. >> we're going to keep assess ing the fall out of this weekends events and the implications for russia and ukraine, but it's still too early to reach a definitive conclusion about where this is going. the outcome of all of this remains to be seen. reporter: the u.s. national security team did not believe putin would so quickly cave to a deal with the wagner group but they do know for sometime putin 's relations with prigozhin were on the it fromz. >> you didn't need a classified briefing to know there were tensions between prigozhin and the russian ministry of defence and they have been quote open about those and they have been escalating for anyone for the last several months. reporter: at the white house today president biden says looking ahead his priority is to stay in lockstep with ukraine's president zelenskyy. >> no matter what happened in russia, we the united states continue to support ukraine's

defense and sovereignty and its territorial integrity. he and i agreed to follow-up and stay in constant contact. i'm also in constant contact with our allies to maintain our coordination. reporter: state department says their top priority is the safety and security of american citizens currently overseas in russia and ukraine. they reiterated their call again today for any americans there to get out now by any means possible. david? david: jill ran thank you very much. take a look at a map we still don't know as jillian said exactly where prigozhin is or his 25,000 troops are but this is a map where they went over the weekend is north towards moscow, about 125 miles out of moscow. then they made a sharp left after the deal with putin, and it looked like they were going to belarus right on top of that blue circle which is kyiv, the capitol of ukraine so there's a question of exactly

where they might be going or whether this was a rouse. let's welcome former u.s. army general jack keane. so general let's get that on the table. you can either shoot it off of the table or keep it, but could this have been a rouse putin and prigozhin setup together in order to put his forces, the wagner forces, just north of kyiv? >> i don't see that whatsoever. the evidence doesn't support that whatsoever. i mean, shooting down several helicopters and a fixed wing command and control aircraft certainly is not part of a rouse and the reality is that putin's forces are usually overrated. they left prior to the counter offensive starting. they just didn't want to be any part of that, and they lost thousands of troops defending conducting human wave operations into fixed machine gun positions

time and time again, and the ukrainians were in absolute disbelief what they were dealing with and many wanted the ukrainians to get out of there because the russians would eventually overwhelm them and they said no we're going to stay here because this is a killing field and we don't have to fight these folks later. there's no rouse here. putin would never take this risk to weaken his position inside his country and also internationally. after all, he is the strong man. he's for stability. he's invincible and that is not what's been displayed here. internal security forces did not do a very good job at all of stopping what was relatively small column by comparison to the size of putin's army. most of it's deployed in ukraine but not all of it, and he has internal security forces designed to protect his regime as well. foes could get inside ofgozhin

moscow but they would not be able to topple know is that prigozhin was actually counting on deflection, senior military generals from the russian military to come to his side. he was really looking for general vokin, who at one-time was in charge of the war in ukraine for russia and i'm assuming they had some kind of conversation that lead prigozhin to believe that but actually, when the rebellion began, david, sarah vokin came out and condemned it as betrayal and treason. his looking for a deal came about as the result he never got any support inside of russia from the russian generals. david: very quickly, general, because we're running out of time, but what does this do to the military, to the russians? i mean they've lost the support it seems of a lot of the members of the wagner brigade but what

does it do to the morale of the rest of the military? >> well, i think you put your finger on it. as this eventually gets distributed among the soldiers and they hear about this from family, friends, their own iphone connections, literally it's going to lower their morale in an organization that is already poorly-led and has low morale so i think it l have some impact. now prigozhin avoided disrupting the headquarters even though he took control over it and surrounded it, so the southern military district was still overseeing operations in ukraine and they let all of the military flights flow into russian occupied ukraine that needed to do so but it will have some impact for sure, and certainly, the counter-offensive is under way. it's going to take time. the ukrainians are being very deliberate and don't want to waste their troops attacking

into mine fields and other obstacles out there. they are working at night using night vision goggles and hopefully we'll see some progress here in a few weeks when the main attack takes place david: general jack keane great to see you general thank you very much for being here appreciate it. >> yeah. david: national border patrol counsel on floor for governor and 2024 contender ron desantis rolling out his immigration plan after touring the southern border yesterday for the first time. called out president biden's handling of the crisis. more on that to come.

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>> at the end of the day a country has borders, and borders matter, and you neither enforce those borders or you're not a country. >> we're not going to make excuses. we're not just going to do empty promises. we are going to deliver results. david: 2024 presidential candidate ron desantis unveiling

his immigration plan earlier today during a speech in south texas, promising to end birth right citizenship, finish building the border wall and sending u.s. forces into mexico to combat drug cartels. joining us is national border patrol council vice president art del quedo. donald trump as you well know essentially built his campaign around the border issue in 2016 and won the election. a lot of people said that had a lot to do with his win. how does the desantis plan stack up against that? >> well i'll tell you what. president trump didn't only just build his campaign around it, but once he got into the position of president, he delivered. he delivered into lows we hadn't seen in many many years and obviously the current administration came and got rid of everything he had done before , so i think that's one of the issues that we've seen. you know, that president trump when he came down here he actually got it done and that's important. something needs to get done because right now, it is just its been just completely different from the last

administration that is just complete lawlessness of the individuals taking advantage of it of course are the drug cartel are the ones constantly filling their pockets and lining their pockets with money because they are utilizing the immigration issue and they are bringing in illegal aliens into the country but at the same time they are flourishing off the drug cartels and doing this for way too long and something has to change. its got to be taken care of. david: art, now is a lot different from the way it was in 2016. as much trouble as we had in 2016, now it can be argued it's a lot worse. you think of just the shear numbers of migrants that have come over here. the millions of migrants that have come over. many of whom are just out, they're beyond reach right now, by anybody who would care to bring them in. you also are seeing evidence of it in places like chicago, in new york, chicago you had migrants camping out in police stations for the past couple of weeks. you have in new york, its now costing you about $5 million a

day for the city of new york to pay for the housing and the feeding of these migrants not to mention medical care so the problem is far worse than it was in 2016. >> oh, absolutely. it's horrific compared to 2016. this administration just destroyed everything we had and i'll tell you what. even the got away numbers we have the got away numbers what we see many times are these individuals in the streets are these people putting the caravan s and they get shipped to different parts of the country. that's one aspect of it, but the number of got away gotaways that is tremendous. you have individuals that are coming into the country to put this into perspective right? it is easy to come into the united states, right now, claim asylum knowing you're going to get released and go to wherever it is you want to go to in the united states. how horrific is it that you have groups of individuals that have to still not, you know, get detected or sneak around or

go the extra mile, no pun intended, right? to not be apprehended, not be detected. how bad can their criminal background be that they no full well that claiming asylum will not do it for them, and that is what's scary and we have many many gotaways under this administration. david: and again, they aren't just from latin america. they are from a lot are chinese, africa, elsewhere. it's really the whole world recognizes there's an open border here to cross. art we got to leave it at that. great to see you again my friend thank you very much. best of luck to you stay safe. well, first it was the straws. then to the big gulp. now it's our ovens they want to takeaway and our pizzerias in new york. a new law in new york city says all buildings have to conform to certain co 2 emission standards by a certain date. it's turning out to be a costly energy audit for you and those who love new york. energy expert neil chatterjee is

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david: well despite being at the forefront of so-called woke environmental social and governance investing, esg, blackrock ceo larry fink says he's no longer using the term esg because its been weaponize weaponized and misused by both sides of the aisle. lydia hu is live in new york. reporter: these comments were made yesterday at the aspen ideas festival. larry fink also said that he's " ashamed" of being a part of the esg debate. during another part of the conversation though, fink tried to backtrack his remark but said the term esg has been politicized by what he calls the

far left and the far right. "i don't use the word esg any more because its been entirely weaponized" going on to say"so in my last ceo letter the phrase esg was not uttered once because its been unfortunately politicized, weaponized and all that" and yeah, our business was hurt. he lost $4 billion of mandates because of 90% misinformation. a representative of blackrock declined to comment but told me these comments do not mean blackrock is changing any investment strategy, pointing out blackrock works for its clients and invests accordingly, but the comments, david, come as republicans have slammed blackrock's bullish approach to esg, accusing the firm of prioritizing woke political agendas over profits. >> what are these corporations going to do some who do they cater to? do they cater to politics or cater more towards their shareholders and their customers in many cases who are on the

other side of the aisle, so i don't think this debate is going away anytime soon. reporter: and there are currently 74 anti-esg bills pending in state legislatures across the country according to the law firm morgan lewis, and nearly a dozen gop-led states have divested from blackrock pulling more than $4 billion from the asset manager according to americans for tax reform. now, despite the divestment, larry fink says that last year was still one of the best years ever for the firm, david. it reports about $400 billion in in-flows more than half came from the united states they say. david: all right, thank you very much appreciate that. with me now is former federal energy regulatory commissioner chairman neil chatterjee. neil good to see you thank you for being here. so he says he is ashamed to be part of the esg political debate , but at the same time, as far as we know, they are still discouraging in many

instances a lot of investing in classical fossil fuels projects, right? >> i mean that's the thing. the mistake from the get-go was to allow politics to interfere with investing. these funds have a fiduciary obligation to return maximum value for their investors, for their shareholders, and if these funds think that they can make money investing in clean energy, investing in decarbon ization they absolutely should, but that decision should be based on the merits of the investment and the possible return, not on trying to satisfy some political constituency. david: plus they are also los ing investments by certain states that have been pulling their projects from these groups because these states have interest in fossil fuel projects >> yeah, that's the mess that has been created by this. look, i don't like it when progressive states force divest ment from fossil fuel

assets and i don't like it when conservative states try and dictate where people should invest their money. invest where you think you can maximize your returns. let's take the politics out of this on all sides. david: now, meanwhile, the president is touting his energy programs and other programs that he says are looking to the future. here was the president speaking earlier today. i think we have a clip of that. roll tape. >> not only franklin roosevelt did, brought electricity to nearly every american home and farm in our nation. today kamala and i are making equally historic investment, to connect everyone in america, high speed internet by affordable high speed internet by 2030. david: of course the irony here , neil, is all of our electrical grids are already overwhelmed but imagine what happens with all of this green energy programs when we have a bunch of new electric cars coming online. all these new electric ovens because we're getting rid of all

kinds of coal and fuel projects, fossil fuel projects that power a lot of these things. our electrical grids are going down on this aren't they? >> when i was at the federal energy regulatory commission, i felt my foremost obligation and that of my colleagues was our oversight of the reliability of the grid, to make sure that when americans hit the switch, the lights came on, and what's been happening now is as we electrify more and more, we're taking our eyes off of reliability and that has real consequences. we're seeing heat waves in the country right now, cold winters, challenged grids. if we are going to continue to electrify and make political decisions about our generation mix and not allow the engineers to determine what power sources are needed, it's going to be a real calamity. david: not to mention getting rid of our beloved pizza parlors in new york because of these crazy ideas of what works and what doesn't. by the way, new york air is much cleaner than it was 40 years ago

when i first arrived here. by far, so, you know, i think we were going in the right direction even with the pizza parlors, i think we need to keep them. that's just me talking here, neil, but thank you very much. >> stay away from my pizza. please don't interfere with that david: don't get between us and our pizza. good to see you, neil. thank you very much. the director of national intel releasing a long-anticipated report on covid origins happening friday night. do you think that was an accident? several days past the deadline, congress had set in the middle of friday night. the house intel committee chair says the report doesn't go as far as needed. former chief speechwriter for george w. bush, bill mcgurn coming up on that next on the "evening edit." makes every day a confident day... a never-hide-my-smile day... a life-of-the-party day... a take-on-the-world day... a believe-in-myself day...

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him administration finally released a long anticipated report on covid origins and a document dump that's what you do right before the weekend. house until chairman mike turner said the report did not go as far as needed. with me now former chief speech writer who knows a thing or two about the way they put out these communiqués right before a weekend at 7:00 p.m. what are they trying to hide here, bill? >> i do not know. one thing we learn from covid, can't trust the experts. trust but verify. it does not mean they were nefarious but they were wrong on so many things.

german turners owsley right. let's see the intelligence before we see their opinions. >> we should mention they did not come out the actual think about their opinions about the intel. he once the raw data. i am just wondering are they trying to cover up china? or the nih possibly finding the wuhan lab in one way or another? what is your worst suspicion here? do not like to speculate about why they are doing it. but i think the intelligence would answer that question. if it says something glaring that would be a real indication of what they are trying to do. some people get so attached to their theories they refused to let evidence indented them. at this point we are tired of interfering and denying intelligence we do not leave her own agency. because i want to take it your own stomping grounds or what used to be the stomping grounds of house communications we only

have 20 seconds. i think biden white house you look at the way the ring peppered with questions about hunter biden and whether joe and hunter were talking business deals. had they lost the press? >> i will not answer that, david that is their answer to everything. you had kirby walk up the podium the other day. you had say it won't happen -- mike there trying to do what they did in 2020 bury it by mocking it are not addressing it. they are very specific accusations that can be proved or disproved. the answer is for republicans is to put them on the witness stand. >> good stuff thank you very much. by the late tomorrow in kansas and our roger berg twitter file journalist i knew your post miranda divine. and is now time for the bottom line taken away gang. jon: thank you david