larry: i'll just say, biden mommics is a class warfare grift. we need to launch free enterprise, unleash prosperity. we want a rising tide to lift all boats without class warfare, and then we want everybody to watch david asman who's subbing for my pal lizzie macdonald. go, david, go. david: yeah. you know, grift is the perfect word. rah. [laughter] these are grifters, that's exactly what's going on, larry. thank you very much. i'm david asman in for liz

macdonald, "the the evening edit" starts right now. well, believe it or not, president biden laughing off or at least trying to questions today as to whether he was involved in hunter biden's latest text message scarndal. watch. >> reporter: how involved are you in your son's chinese shakedown text message? were you involved? >> no, i wasn't, and i don't -- >> reporter: were you? >> no! david: a new text message released by house oversight from hunter to a cef chinese energy official, of course, they're affiliated with the chinese government, shows otherwise. with me now, let's get right to it with legal expert jonathan turley who joins us now. jonathan, great to see you. the president tries to the laugh this off, but the evidence keeps up mounting and mounting, and these texts are gift that never stops giving. i mean, the sufficient that's coming out of these -- stuff that's coming out of these

whatsapp texts are just extraordinary. here's one. he tells us his cheese -- chinese partners the bidens are the best with i know at doing exactly what the chairman wants from this partnership. do we know what the chairman wanted from the partnership? will we ever find that out, jonathan? >> well, the bidens are the best at this. and what this is, is corruption. the bidens have long been accused of influence peddling, of selling access. and they're very good at it. and what these records indicate is that this may have generated millions in influence peddling proceeds. so, no, we don't have the specific demand, but this follows a pattern. and the president's response, david can, is really quite maddening. i mean, we're talking about a very serious matter here. we're talking about whether his family sold out country by engaging in this form of corruption. it doesn't matter whether his son would be charged with a crime or whether he'll be

charged with a crime, it's corrupt. that's what influence peddling is. it's the favorite form of corruption in washington. david: well, it's corrupt and it's also, by the way, beyond the corruption itself there's the problem of a cover-up. it does look more and more like the doj was involved in diverting investigators from getting to the truth of all of this. >> right. we have now very clear con rah that dictions of the attorney general -- contradictions of the attorney general in what he has said to the congress and the public as recently as a few days ago. he maintained that there was no effort by weiss to seek an indictment that was blocked by the department of justice. even newspapers like "the new york times" have now said that they have confirmed that that occurred, that weiss wanted to bring charges in california and in washington, d.c. and and was rebuffed. now, all of this is very serious. david: i would, i would, by the

way, i would call that obstruction of justice, wouldn't you? >> well, you know, when you get to the actual elements of obstruction, it's hard to make that out with prosecutorial discretion. but that's the reason why pigeon holing this in a particular crime is in some ways an effort to evade the question of corruption itself. i think there may be crimes here. and you're right, david, usually the crimes from influence peddling deal with the concealment of the influence peddling because the public doesn't like it. and that can involve taxes, that can involve false statements, and that can involve obstruction. it does not appear that the full extent of this corruption was investigated by the justice department. and when officials attempted to dell can f further into it -- delve putt into it, they say they were prevented from doing so. david: jonathan, despite all the mounting evidence and the questions about obstruction, etc., the white house after the charges, those minor charges were filed last week, seems to

think that it's business as normal and hunter -- i don't know if you can see, but we have video, maybe we can put it back up, of hunter biden at the white house state dinner who, by the way, was sharing a glass with -- i don't know if he was sharing a glass, but at least the he shared the dinner table with the a.g. himself. there was merrick garland, the guy who is accused of havinged had something to do with obstructing the investigation into his case. then he had also news that hunter biden was at camp david can which is kind of a sacrosanct place to be particularly for somebody who's just been charged with crimes. >> well, david, what people don't realize is that this was a celebratory moment not just for the bidens, you know? hunter got away with it. the bidens got away with it. it was a point of celebration. his appearing at that dinner really conveyed to everyone that influence peddling is a cottage industry in washington, and it's going strong. even with this level of damning

ed and the seriousness -- evidence and the seriousness of these allegations, it still didn't involve is anything other than a couple of minor misdemeanors. david: and, by the way, visitor logs are now being scrubbed as well from hunter's attendance. it's extraordinary that they're going the distance as if people aren't watching what's going on. you know, then there's the attempt -- and i have to, you wrote about this earlier in the week -- the attempt to paint hunter and the president as somehow victims in all this as though hunter's addiction to drugs and prostitutes excuses him for years of criminal behavior. i mean, that -- and it's not just the white house saying this, it's actually members of the media. >> right. and it's really implausible because they keep on portraying this as, like, he was panhandling in times square. he was at center of a complex system is of dozens of hlcs -- ll lc and bank accounts shifting millions of dollars internationally through an

influence-peddling scheme. that that's not the profile of some junkie trying to get money for his habit. it's the profile of a champion-level form of influence peddling. david: jonathan, finally, i have to hearken back to the when you and i first met which was during the bill clinton impeachment period for whitewater, that's how far back you and i go. >> i know. david: i'm just wondering, do you think that we have now reached at least the threshold for impeachment that we saw for the clinton impeachment? >> i think the key here is that we're well past threshold for oversight investigations and the possibility of impeachable offenses. you can't deny that. there are false statements here that have to be explored. and so oversight committees have every right to delve into these issues, and i think courts will support them. at this point the power of congress to investigate this matter is at its apex. there are criminal and potentially impeachable matters

involved, and they can move this aggressively and quickly, in my view. david: jonathan turley, great to see you. i'm proud to have known you for that long a period of time. you've helped me out all the way. [laughter] thank you very much. >> thanks, david can. david: stay with us, we're going to have irs whistleblower gary shapley's attorney with us later this hour. president biden spoke in chicago pushing his so called bidenomics buzzword on the campaign trail, but why have your economic kickoff in a city where residents and companies are running away as fast as they can? edward lawrence live at the the white house with the very latest. kind of a strange place to pick for this, right, edward? >> reporter: they certainly have a crime issue now and three major companies at least have moved out to. the president said bidenomics 12 times during his speech today, trying to remessage the economy and focus people on the spending that he's doing. the the president wants you to forget the prosperous times before the pandemic and only

compare or the the shutdown economy to what he has now. >> and guess what? [applause] bidenomics is working. when i took office, the pandemic was raging, and our economy was reeling. supply chains were broken. millions of people unemployed. hundreds of thousands of small businesses on the verge of closing after so many had already closed, literally hundreds of thousands on the verge of closing. >> reporter: so when you look at inflation when he took office, 1.4%, he tried to blame inflation on the invasion of ukraine which happened more than a year into president biden taking office. now, because of the president's decisions, spending and reopening of the economy, inflation spiked to 9.1% last june. for the past year, we have heard the same message with no policy shifts. >> bringing down inflation remains one of my top priorities. today inflation is less than half, less than half of what it was a year ago.

and inflation caused by russia and by the war in ukraine and by what's going on. but we knew we had to do more. there's more than one way to bring with down costs. >> reporter: so republicans flatly calling hogwash on that. listen. >> everybody's incomes have fallen when you adjust for inflation in the biden economy. under the trump economy, black voters were earning more money, building more wealth. the american dream was tangible for so many americans. in this economy here, we are stagnating very, very fast. interest rates are higher. >> reporter: and the president is getting ready right now to come back from chicago to the white house. david? that. david: all right. edward lawrence, thank you very much. well, here's just one of the four pinocchio-style statements made in the president a's speech many in chicago. watch. >> just in my first two years in office my team and i have reduced the deficit by $1.7

trillion. [applause] just in two years. david: all right. for more, let's bring in economist steven moore who's been biting his lip on all of this, senior fellow in economics at heritage foundation and and cofounder of committee to unleash prosperity, also economic adviser to donald trump. great to have you. first of all, that first sound bite that we just played, let's dismiss that. we actually 100% of the shrinking or expiring covid relief is why we had that $1.7 trillion reduction deficit. it had nothing to do with anybody in the biden administration. >> i take some of this personally because i worked with donald trump. we had -- look, people forget or at least the people in the white house forget that before covid, right, we had the biggest booming economy we'd seen in 30 years. everything was going great. incomes were up, unemployment was down, job jobs were flourishing, we were energy independent. and then, of course, we had covid and shut down half the economy, so we lost all these

jobs -- david: 9.4 million jobs. that has to be often tracted to the -- subtracted from the 13 million the biden administration claims they -- >> great with point. that's the other thing people forget, when joe biden says i took over and the economy was in wreckage, no, it wasn't. david: 6.5% at 1.4% inflation, and he also claims, by the way, salaries are up bigtime. you put a chart out today on the internet on your web site there. if we can show that chart showing, yes, indeed, salaries have gone up in nominal terms. but in real terms, the blue line, that's taking inflation into with account, we're losing. >> exactly. and people know that, by the way. i'm surprised the white house tries to get away with this, aren't you, david? people feel it. they know, you know, do our estimate right now is that the average family, say you have two workers, lost about $4-5,000 of income, you know, relative to their purchasing power. incidentally, that's the reason,

david, something that joe biden didn't mention in his speech today, record credit card debt. why is credit card debt so high? people are trying to main indiana their standard of living, burr their -- maintain their standard of living, but their wages aren't taking place. by the way, i'm from chicago, and i do find it ironic because chicago is falling apart. high crime, no jobs, businesses leaving. and he had this line are about it used to be people used the pack up and leave, you know, to get a job -- david: a these exactly what they're doing -- that's exactly what they're doing! it's also in california can, new york -- >> blue states that are trying to do bide mom ifics, people are fleeing those states. david: finally, bragging about how great government investments are, industrial policy, almost soviet-style, claiming that the private sector needed the government to direct them in the right way, to start with the investments, taking tax dollars to do that. in fact, you think of solyndra, you think of more recent examples. i was just showing you this

lordstown, and that was actually promoted by the trump administration as well as the biden administration. all of these businesses started by the government with government capital is have a failed. >> well, look at the the car companies saying they're trying to do -- they're following biden's directions with the lek trek -- the electric vehicles, and they're having to hay off vehicles because the people aren't buying. that's a whopper. the maybe the biggest one of all that i think people are getting sick of, that he's reduced the deficit more than any other president. david: right. [laughter] >> in the last 12 months, i just looked up these numbers yesterday, last 12 months the national debt is up 2.1 trillion in 12 months.ghter] i mean, that's one of the highest levels -- david: he talks about historical achievements of this administration. that is historical -- i can't say achievement -- >> no president in history has raised our martial debt and our government spending more than joe biden. i guess if you consider that a victory, it is, but i don't.

david: steve, great to see you, my friend. more than a year after president biden said his add or mrgses was going after covid aid fraudsters, a new report reveals $200 billion in potential fraud was handed out. we have former u.s. treasury official michael faulkender with the details next. ♪ muck [clicking] when occasional heartburn won't let you sleep. [clicking] get fast relief with new tums+ heartburn + sleep support. love food back and fall asleep faster. ♪tum, tum tum tum, tums♪

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david: well, the small business administration's office of inspector genre vealing $200 billion of potential fraud in covid relief funds. that figure's 17% of the program's to total revenue. hillary vaughn is live on capitol hill with the latest on this. hillary. >> reporter: hi, david. that's just the number for fraud within the small business administration's covid relief loans that were intended to help small businesses stay open, keep their workers paid during the pandemic. now the inspector general says about $200 billion of what was given out actually went to people pretending to have fake businesses. according to the report, the sba issued $1.2 trillion overall in economic assistance through pandemic loans, but at least $200 billion of that went to scammers. the report also identified red flags that they found in the loan applications suggesting that a scam was afoot from

multiple applications tied to the same ip address, the same contact information or banking information used for several relief applications, businesses that were formed after the relief program was announced among other things. but one scheme that was detailed in this report, the i.g. calls it the romance scam, where with fraudsters targeted people looking for companionshippen online. they then manipulated those people to give them personal information. the scammers used that info to apply for pandemic relief. the loans in the hundreds. the total amount of this network of thieves was able to get away with $10 million overall. a big chunk of that they got from 250 ppp loans that were approved. the sba overcan all is pushing back on the report -- overall is pushing back on the report saying the fraud is not as bad as the i.g. claims saying: we are concerned the white patient -- paper approach unintentionally misleads the public to believe that the work we did together had no significant impact in protecting

against fraud. now, the big question, david, is how do we get the money back. so far they've been able to track down about $31 billion, but still that's only about 15% of what they estimate overall was stolen in taxpayer cash. david? david: unbelievable. unbelievable. hillary vaughn, thank you very much. and joining me now is former u.s. treasury official michael faulkender. michael, i must say hat sba, you kind of see a cya mode coming here, don't you, in terms of them being responsible saying, no, no, it wasn't near that much amount. i tend to believe the inspector general. what about you? >> so, david, as assistant secretary i worked closely with the small business administration. i was the senior treasury official that led the implementation of the paycheck protection program, and i agree with the sba. the fraud that's being claimed by the inspector general is largely overstated. i have the report and i want to read for you one of my favorite sentences in the report --

david: as long as it's just a sentence, that's fine. >> -- all applications they found fraud, it says once they did subsequent reviews, they cleared the majority of the flags identifying and expected $36 billion in fraud, $8 billion of it in the paycheck protection program. so an $800 billion program, and their i.g. is saying that after they've done thorough reviews, there's about $8 billion worth of fraud. that's a 1% fraud rate for a program that we got up and running in a week. and in the process according to some numbers that my and my colleague, co-authors have run, saved more than 13 million jobs. so when you consider what the economic circumstances were at the time that we launched this program and the fact that we had to bypass what we normally in a normal situation would have liked to have put in place in fraud prevention but could not given the one-week time frame we had to get this program up and running, the fact that we have only a 1% fraud rate, i view this report as vindication. david: well, again, if -- i

don't think, when i first saw all these hundreds of billions of dollars going out there, i mean, i would be amazed if you had a better record than programs that have been up and running for years like med medicare. medicare, i think, has a 10% fraud rate, don't they? >> but the reason that this program was designed to have a much lower rate is because we asked for the most part people to go to their existing lenders. and so -- and we did not waive the bank secrecy act, we did not waive anti-money laundering provisions. the banks were still responsible for doing all of the identification of borrowers that they have to do under any checking account that they open, under any loan that they extend. so there should have been almost no identity proud in the program because we went through -- fraud in the program because we went through -- david: but, michael, let me -- i wanted to give you as much time as possible, but i've got to interject because you and i basically believe private sector does it better. however, we just turned off the economy. it's never been done in history. it was a horrible event for

millions of workers and hundreds of thousands of businesses. you guys did a remarkable job. but having said all that, when you throw that much money out there at one time, don't you expect a lot of fraud to come in there? and even if it's just a small percentage, it amounts to billions. >> it does. but, david, you just pointed the most important thing which is that this was largely a private sector-led program. what we did is we provided the money to the private sector, and then we had the banks do the screening for us. that is a much better approach than, say, unemployment insurance or the economic injury disaster loans that sba did directly because they did not use the private sector. david: right. >> ppp was successful in its implement present tax the because it was a public-private partnership using the existing infrastructure of the banks, and that's why harnessing those partnerships -- david: i understand. it certainly helps millions of -- helped millions of people and thousands of businesses, no question about it. it was an awful situation and, again, i'm glad we have checks

and balances. you may be right, the inspector general may be right or it might be somewhere in between what the sba is saying and the i.g. is saying. we'll find out. but the bottom line is we did have a recovery going on when this president came into office in 2022 the 1, and largely this is one of the things responsible for that recovery -- 2021. again, i think the jury is still out on final figure, but we appreciate you coming in, michael. thank you. >> thanks for having me, david. david: my pleasure. well, parents rallying out of public school headquarters demanding their kids be allowed to opt out of the lgbtq curriculum. we have one of the moms blocked from attending the maryland school board meeting can discussing the policy coming next. ♪ >> our kids are not state property. >> our kids are not state property. >> we demand our parents our rights. ♪

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>> introducing sexual behavior and preference at an early age raises legitimate concern for us parents. >> where's the respect? or does inclusion and respect only apply to a specific group? >> for us this is a genuine issue of faith, not hate. our faith is not partisan s and our people are not backwards. david: hundreds of maryland parents protesting the state's biggest school district after they were blocked from if attending a school board meeting to express concerns over lgbtq curriculum which is a reading list and part of the english arts program. parents say they want their children to be able to opt out, and the school board is saying, no, you don't have the right to do that. joining us now is one of the parents blocked from attending that meeting, dawn, along with children's scholarship fund president darla romfo. dawn, first to you, if i can. did they ever explain, did the school board ever explain why parents weren't allowed to

express their views? >> the text message that came out to the mcps community said that it was a safety issue, and i'm assuming that that's because they were expecting so many people to show up. but really a cheer violation of the open meetings act -- clear violation. you know, families had things that they wanted to say on both sides, and, you know, people weren't really able to express that or even be in the room to the see the people who were approved to provide testimony. you know, to the support their friends and is their family no matter what side you were on. and it was really frustrating. david: did you get the sense they were using that safety excuse as an excuse not to hear your side? >> yeah. you know, it kind of came from out of nowhere. we've had some larger crowds before, but i think that they were really anticipating something like this which was hundreds of people, and i'm, you know, i guess they just didn't want to get steamrolled through

everything. i mean, we've never had a school board meeting with that many people in attendance, not even when we were trying to get schools open and things like that, you know? is and so i -- this is a really hot button topic on both sides, and i just think that they were concerned that things could get out of control. but i don't think that thed thay just sending a text message basically the day before the meeting. david: darla, the incredible thing about is this was part of english arts program. so while reading and writing scores have gone way down as a result of a lot of things, the pandemic was a part of it but even before the pandemic these scores seemed to be coming down, this is how they're addressing that problem of our scores, our base -- scores of basic courses like reading and writing going down? >> yes. and this gets to, goes back to a fundamental who should be, the question, who should be in charge of a child's education.

we need to have education freedom in this country so the dollars follow the child and the parents can make the decision about how their child is educated. in 1925 the supreme court said a child is not a mere creature of the state, and all education is a form of speech. so if a parent has something to say about their child's education and all education is speech, the government should not be able to pressure parents and abridge their rights to free speech when it comes to the education of their minor children. david: absolutely. >> so there's just so many things that are wrong with this, and you're right, why are we focusing on this when our children are not -- they're failing in the most basic subjects. they can't even flourish as human beings because they're not getting basic skills. david: dawn, i'm just wondering has the issue of school choice come up among parents? giving you parents a voucher to allow you to get the financial security to send your kids to the schools that don't have programs that you don't like? >> i definitely heard some

parents talk about it. i don't know, you know, to be perfect hi honest, as much about it as i do. i mean, as i should, actually. my concern was really more what she just touched upon. you know, there are a lot of kids in mcps that can't even read. and so we're concerned about what books they're reading -- well, some people are. i wouldn't opt out if it was my choice, but there are kids who can't even read at or on or even near grade level are. and so, to me, that's where my outrage is, you know? it's justst the really frustrating that kids can't read, they can't do math, they're falling behind. we have a mental health crisis, and this is just, you know, another layer. david: yeah. >> and mcps isn't handling any of it properly. david: well, school choice is one way that a lot of parents and frustrate administrators are trying to reach this problem. by the way, darla and you can

speak to to each other, you should contact each other because with school choice increasingly and not just by republicans, democrats, you have a democratic governor of pennsylvania who's starting a school choice program. he's very open-minded to this. so it is a solution that is beginning -- it hasn't quite swept the nation yet, but it's getting there. is and hopefully with darla's continued work, it will accomplish its goals. thank you, ladies, for being here. i wish we had more time, appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. that. david: i appreciate your being here. a new poll showing former president trump tops president biden for the first time. we're going to be speaking with "the wall street journal"'s kim strassel on that coming next. ♪ i'm saving with liberty mutual, mom. they customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. check it out, you could save $700 dollars just by switching. ooooh, i'll look into that. let me put a reminder on my phone. save $700 dollars.

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david: well, donald trump's lead in new hampshire is growing as support for florida governor ron desantis is dropping in the battle ground state. let's welcome the wall street editorial board member and author of "the biden malaise"

out on july 18th, congratulations, kim strassel. good to see you. thank you for being here. >> thank you, david. david: it does seem like the trump juggernaut, if you with don't mind me -- by the way, there's your book, we have a full screen of it. but the trump juggernaut is kind of unstoppable going towards the nomination at least. what do you think? >> well, look, he's got all the this in the-built, positive things. he's got the name recognition, he has has the fact that he was president before, he's got a lot of money. part of it, i would note, fund raised off the backs of these justice department actions against him. he's always in the news, and it's probably going to the stay that way right up until the august debate i'm among those who really do think that things may change at that point when people get a chance the to really focus on other candidates. but for now, yes, he has got everything that he needs going for him. david: well, the real question, of course, is the final election. and if it is a show-off between

biden and trump, i mean, you're going to have this extraordinary case. i mean, obviously, it's unprecedented, just one of the cases is unprecedented which is that one of the contenders will have two two indictments pending against him and perhaps others as well. the other candidate, the other presidential candidate, sitting president, may have indictments of his own. may have an impeachment against him at the time. i mean, this is, it's mind-blowing where we are historically, isn't it? >> yeah. it's mind-i blowing and also disturbing though because david, again, this is a question -- this is, like, what, the third or fourth cycle where we've had the department of justice front and center in election questions which is the last place it ever needs to be. and i would add that, you know, in addition to this we may well have all these allegations continuing to swirl about hunter biden in part because of the news of the department of justice seems to potentially have politicized that case and not handled it properly.

a. david: yeah. well, getting back to pure politics, mick mulvaney wrote a piece in "the hill" suggesting that his math doesn't add up. he's always subtracting potential supporters rather than adding to them. he mentions arizona, a state where he really went hard after the late john mccain even after he had died, and that might have had something to do with his losing the state in 20 the 20. georgia, of course, he lost that state as well with a squeaker, only 11,000 votes. but part of that might have had to do with him going after john mccain. but in georgia he went after brian kemp suggesting that stacey abrams would have been a better bet for georgians than brian with kemp which infuriated a lot of georgians, georgia began republicans. and then you have florida and him going after desantis and saying, suggesting that andrew cuomo might have done a were the job as -- a better job as governor than ron desantis. he keeps shooting himself, one

would think, in the foot againsf republican voters in those states, no? >> yeah. i mean, look, we've seen this going all the way back to 2018. the american electorate took their chances with donald trump in 20 the 16 because they wanted to send a message they wanted something different. and i understand that sentiment. in 2018, though, after a couple of years in office and those midterms it had been clear that you looked at the exit polls that donald trump had managed to, through his style the, his language, as you said going after other republicans, he had managed to alienate a number of republicans or at least enough to harm republicans in those many mid terms. and then, of course, you saw the same thing happen in 2020. and i don't really see is him changing his style much. david: yeah. >> and this is an enormous question, by the way, for republicans. one of the things i get into my book, david, is the fact that this is a comparison of the biden and carter years, and i remind everybody what came after

which was ronald reagan who capitalized on this extraordinary backlash to jimmy carter policies. the gop has the opportunity to do that again because of backlash against biden, but they're going to have to get a nominee that that has the ability to to draw more people in under the tent like those reagan democrats you saw in the '80s. david: and, of course, i remember ronald reagan's final commandment which was thou shalt not attack a fellow republican. i think we need to hear a little bit more of that, i don't know about you -- >> from all of them, by the way. david: yeah. kim stras thing, thank you very much. the book is called "the biden malaise." it's out on july 18th. thanks, kim. well, you've heard of artificial intelligence but how is it helping farmers? but first, let's check in with our friends dagen and sean to the see what they have coming up on "the bottom line" for their special edition for america's future. you're all set up there. sean: david, we have a great shot here. we're outside of fox studios, beautiful night. we have a great show lined up. we have dan crenshaw,

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david: over 5700 flights in the u.s. already disrupted ahead of the busy holiday weekend. united airlines with the most cancellations and delays. now the if faa and united playing the blame game. grady trimble is live at reagan international airport with more on this. hey, grady. >> reporter: hey, david. passengers at airportses across the country but primarily in the east coast up by you in new york, they've been waiting in long lines, sleeping many in terminals and trying to get rebooked on new flights, a process that some passengers have told us takes several days in some cases. you mentioned the delays and cancellations today, getting awfully close to 6,000, ask that is an improvement from the past few days. since weekend the airlines have canceled tens of thousands of flights, canceled and delayed, i should say, particularly on the east to coast. and like i said, especially in the new york area. united the hardest hit, and in addition to the bad weather

united's ceo scott kirby is blaming the faa for not having enough air traffic controllers at knew work airport in particular. newark. in a letter to employees, kirby says the faa, frankly, failed us weekend. we estimate that over 150,000 customers on united alone were impacted weekend because of faa staffing issues and their ability to manage traffic. the transportation secretary, whose own flights were canceled and delayed on his way to an event many south carolina, says the week's problems, if you can believe it, are an improvement from last year's flight issues. >> what i are say is that, overall, we've seen the system perform much better than it did a year ago, and i think that reflects the work we've cone, i think it reflects the airlines stepping up. i want to give credit where credit is due can, but clearly there's a long way to go. anything under our control at the faa, we're going to be

working on, and anything under the airlines' control, they need to step up and take responsibility. >> reporter: united tells us it will be overstaffing going into the fourth of july weekend so it can be ready because this weekend is going to be a big one. it's expected to break records for independence day weekend travel, david, even counting before the covid pandemic. david: wow. grady trimble, thank you very much is. amid high costs and labor shortages, farmers are turning to artificial intelligence with technology like self-driving tractors. let's welcome a.i. ethics adviser reid blackman, author of "ethical machines." reid, good to see you. >> my pleasure. david: so this is good news on a.i., and you have things like the laser weeder which does the work of 70 people, kind of like the9 cotton gin which transformed farming in america. so a.i. isn't all bad, right? >> absolutely not. it can improve efficiency, and this is a clever way of using image recognition software,

combining it with methods for weeding out weeds, if you like, and, you know, massively increasing efficiency of pulling out weeds. david: let's take it up a notch. a.i.-generated drugs. this is a little more controversial because people, particularly when you think of the wuhan lab, you don't want too much a.i. dealing with drugs that go in people's bodies. >> well, look, it still has to go through all of the hurdles that any medical researcher needs to go through in order to to get clearance from the fda. one thing that they're using a.i. to do is to figure out what are the underlying biological mechanisms behind diseases, in this case chronic lung disease. then the researchers still have to verify is this actually the biological mechanism, and hen they'll do certain kinds of tests to verify the a.i.'s output. similarly, the next step is to figure out what molecule should we use to appropriately address this underlying biological mechanism. a.i. doesn't just say go ahead, it gives a menu of options. it's making predictions about the likelihood that this certain

kind of molecule will do the trick. in this case they chose option number 55, so at least 55 options. the researchers, the humans, are looking to the see what's the most -- is this going to work out, and then they start testing and testing in the way they always do, which they'll start testing on animals before humans. david: you made me hungry for more on this. we've got to have you back. >> my pleasure. absolutely. david: reid, thank you very much, appreciate it. next we're speaking with the attorney for irs whistleblower gary shapley on the safety of his client and whistleblowers across the business world. ♪

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♪ ♪ spacex one of the irs was the most of the potential d.o.j. obstruction of the investigation the hunter biden tax crimes, listen. what's between april and june of 2020 we drafted an affidavit to execute a search warrant in a couple different locations. the prosecutors at the time stated that probable cause had been achieved. but as we moved closer to the election, it seemed like they kept putting it on the back burner and eventually did not allow us to do that search warrant. in the legal requirements to execute that search warrant were met. david: with me now attorney for gary the iris whistleblower, tristan i have to ask, is when the search words you are trying to get concerning hunter biden's, one of these lockers hunter biden had northern virginia?

i am told u.s. assistant attorney leslie wolf when he requested that advised hunter's lawyers about it which gave them time to clean it out, no? but that is this investigation irs was conducting. this is back when news of this first broke and the winter of 2020, in december when those investigations first went over in the world realize about the investigation hunters taxes. so on the day investigation into various locations to interview subjects it became clear a lot of hunters tax records have been removed from d.c. to the northern virginia storage unit. after that is when the investigators sought the permission to go and execute a search warrant just like they would in any other case. that is meant leslie wolf to them often. let them know investigators were looking at this point so to this day investigators do not know if they got all the information, all the materials and document of the storage unit. david: use the phrase tipped

them off that sounds like obstruction to me once it's on to you? >> that was difficult, frankly. there's already already a request pending with hunter's attorneys. that is an instance where there is some dialogue between prosecutors and defense counsel were there other instances however for instance the interviews the day before fbi headquarters kicked off not only unproved himself but the biden transition team. so obstruction is a difficult thing to improve. clearly impacted the up come of the investigation. >> really 30 seconds i have to ask if you are concerned about your client safety right now? there are a lot of people around the world who are shocked by what he is saying but he worried someone's going to try to shut him up? >> without question. specifically the york times reported by site hunter's attorneys have told d.o.j. and key spread grand jury information for their work and what they might try to launch a criminal investigation and

that's what they do to whistleblowers. >> and what are concerned about something more immediate that my concern is safety? >> there's nothing you can get the end of the day, right? he has confidence when he is doing is the right thing. so he is moving forward in confidence. david: a lot of people very happy that he's coming out with information that a lot of people do not went out the pre-thank you so much for making the time for us appreciate we know you're busy. remember to send us your e-mail like this one from steve with the plan to cut your pizza oven emissions he writes there is still woodfired oven to three state of florida, just saying. i don't think anyone will be trying to eliminate them anytime soon. thank you for your e-mail that is it for us a very special bottom line takeaway gang. dagen: thank you so much david