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dave: confusing jobs report as the markets are confused, all three indices in red for the week but try to figure out the fed's next move. we will dig into that plus the average price of a new car at an all-time high as more rate hikes could push them higher. jeff flock is lie with those details and one state attorney general targeting scholarships after the supreme court ruling on affirmative-action. will it hold? we will talk to attorney general andrew bailey on his plans for leveling the playing field. a cool summer for canada. taylor swift announcing tour dates for the tour but our neighbors to the north didn't make the cut. they are not on the list. how justin trudeau is trying to lure her to canada. we have a jampacked show today. our top story is the us economy

adding 209,000 jobs in the month of june, fewer than expected despite yesterday's booming adp report, confusing john market-leading to a confused job for the fed. bull's-eye american ingenuity fund, portfolio manager adam johnson joins us now. i'm going to make it even more confusing because in addition to the jobs report for june we had a downward revision for april and may showing 110,000 fewer jobs. is the job market contracting or is this just a mild blip? >> too many numbers, there are so many numbers and what you saw yesterday was algorithms trying to react to single numbers but thoughtful, long-term investors, viewers tuning in today, you can step back and say what's happening? what i think is happening is this economy is stronger and

more resilient than the bears would have us believe. i say that because we have consistent job growth whether we want to argue if it should be half-million jobs are or 250 million jobs. when people are employed we have people spending and they are spending more than they ever have before. we have a situation where you look at the inflation data next week, cpi is down 3%. that sounds close to the fed's target of 2. you add them together and i think this economy is doing better than we think and it is where i as a money manager want the economy to be because it gives me confidence to purchase stocks and they will do well. dave: you never bought into the inevitable recession but some people who had are turning around and saying may be the past two years he has been wrong.

it does seem that we may have skirted a very deep recession. >> i don't see a recession in the near-term. if you look at last week's gdp data, we are supposed to have gdp growth of 1.3% which it was actually 2%. a recession is defined as two quarters of back-to-back falling gdp, not only is it not falling, it's actually rising more than without. by definition you can't have a recession if gdp is rising. dave: we've got to emphasize the average american doesn't like this, they feel they are getting hit. wage growth is up, we still have inflation up higher so people are getting hurt seriously by inflation and annual wages are down. business investment, not what the stock market shows but the stuff that's just beginning is down a bit. it is had a boost because of ai

and the interest in artificial intelligence but not where it was. >> my job as a portfolio manager is to take the money people in trust with me and do what i think is most intelligent. what i think is most intelligent to purchase high quality companies that are part of the technology revolution whether it is artificial intelligence, digitization, robotics, automation, where i think we can make a return in the next two or three years. dave: the safest thing to do would be get a two year treasury, close to 5% and guarantee of retaining principle. >> correct. i'm not going to say what i do is not safe but it does have risks associated. i am putting capital at risk but i'm also doing so in an

educated way that takes advantage of trends that are out there and i think the world has got too negative. it's not as bad as we thought. it is far from perfect. real wages are down. if you look at the mess of washington, whether you want to talk about the swamp, headwaters at pennsylvania avenue and run through the department of justice and on and on, the way we left afghanistan, there's a lot that is not right but my job as a portfolio managers to say what do i think is happening in the economy and where do i put my investors money. dave: meanwhile, higher interest rates driving up prices, average price of a new car going up to $48,000, that's of 33% increase from 5 years ago. let's go to jeff flock for more on all this. >> at celebrity ford, named after you.

rocco recently bought this dealership. you've got payments right now. but the numbers up, $733 a month for payment. are you concerned people are getting too far out on this? >> it to concern of a lot of consumers right now indefinitely on our radar as a dealer, we are doing everything we can. you have a lot of incentives, a lot of programs ford is offering, manufacturers also offering at us as a dealer are offering to help the customer during this difficult time. >> the use of the sport models, go ahead. >> people are paying over asking price, 69 grand. >> absolutely incredible. we are getting $3000-$5000 over asking price for those vehicles and they are hard to come by. inventory is a little low. >> reporter: these numbers you

saw yesterday, automakers sales increases. when prices go up like this, sales go down. gm, 19% increase, 11%, how do you do that? >> there is a realization happening that people need cars. even though prices are high, people need vehicles to get around. >> reporter: the pent-up demand, they are repairing their vehicle. >> only so much money you can put into a vehicle. too much repairs need to be done or too much money into that vehicle and lowered the cost of that vehicle, the value of that vehicle. >> reporter: crazy times. you said at the outset of the show it is confusing and is kind of confusing. dave: one thing. >> reporter: veronica, first woman in ford history to purchase a dealership, solo woman.

dave: no question prices are going sky high even for used cars, almost as expensive as new cars these days. in the midst of this, president biden was in south carolina trying to sell his message that bidenomics has been a smashing success. doing so, some very questionable fact. listen to this. >> president biden: i want you to hear about the deficit. i got the deficit, $1.7 trillion in two years. nobody has ever done that. dave: of that particular claim receive the dubious distinction of getting the washington post, quote, bottomless pinocchio award. when biden said that in april meaning it was completely false. turns out 100% of the deficit reduction in 2022 was because of expiring covid relief

spending. the question is will voters purchase bidenomics. let's ask douglas holtz he can. good to see you, thanks for being here. the public is not buying it right now. you see that from the polls, polling 69% of the public think the economy is poor, biden, what biden is selling they are not buying but part of it is because a lot of what he is selling just isn't true. >> that is really the issue. we hear the president saying he inherited an economic disaster, not true, the economy was growing at 6. 3% when he took office. it averaged under 2% during his tenure. inflation was 1.4% when he took office, core inflation still over 5, food and energy and shelter, 50% of a typical family's budget still going up 5.2%, wages up going that fast. they know the reality on the

ground and you can try to pretend it didn't start very well so this is better than that but it's not true. spending the deficit, that's not what happened. trillions of dollars of new spending, why was understood. dave: the wages, the number that came out today showed a nice increase but again it was still under the core inflation. president biden keeps tweeting messages how wages are going up under his administration, not true, there you see it, if you get a 4.4% raise, good for you but it is still 0.2% less than inflation. >> and as i mentioned, the core necessities, fill up your car, go to the supermarket and go home, that is over 5% and that is what people feel on a daily basis and they are not confused that the standard of living is lower than when he took office. dave: he is talking about this manufacturing renaissance. is that true?

is manufacturing way up now? >> there was a recovery from the pandemic that he enjoyed early in his tenure but for the past 8 months, the institute for supply management index has been below 50% which is contracting. you have a manufacturing recession, not a boom and that stands in striking contrast to his heavy focus on manufacturing jobs, union jobs, just not what was promised. dave: we had better-than-expected gdp number and overall economic growth, they keep -- you keep seeing these downward revisions going on not only in terms of gdp but in terms of job numbers et cetera. i don't know if it will stay at 2% but it has been meddling along at about one. 5%. there's an old phrase that if you are coasting you are going downhill. is that happening with the economy?

>> it is a concern. if you're drifting along one. 5% bad things happen all the time and you could end up in negative territory pretty quickly. i would love to see a faster rate of growth in the us economy, progrowth policies to support that but that is not what we are seeing right now and i know the numbers are confusing to the viewers but if you throw out yesterday's adp report as a aberration, there are lots of reasons to do that. today's jobs report is what you should expect. it's a labor market that is still pretty strong which shows steady signs of deceleration, the fed's efforts are taking hold, that bodes for the strong growth in the future, not faster. and the gdp reports have the same story, the business sector, business investment, structures and equipment and software, that's the achilles' heel. it continues to be and that is how most recessions start. i'm still concerned about the outlook in the second half of this year.

dave: i am hearing from you going into the election the second half of this year and going to the first few months of 2014 we are going to be slower than we are now. >> i'm quite concerned about that, yes. it seems odd to wrap your arms around bidenomics as the way you are going to campaign when facing slower growth, not faster. dave: thank you very much, have a great weekend, appreciate you being here. twitter lawyers innocent it over meta-apps new threads apps. what do they plan to do about their new digital rival? find out next right here. ♪

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dave: twitter is slamming mark zuckerberg's new twitter killer apps, threads, saying the apps creator stole trade secrets suggesting legal action. kelly o'grady is on top of the latest chapter of the musk/zuck

saga. what's the latest? >> reporter: the latest is mark ruttenberg just announced on threads they had 70 million users. it is more than they expected. early on day 2, twitter's legal teams accusing meta of not just creating a competitor but stealing its intellectual property. hours after threads was launched they sent a cease-and-desist letter to mark zuckerberg warning they plan to enforce their ip rights and meta has to preserve all relevant communications in the event they decide to pursue legal action. twitter's legal counsel arguing the company intentionally hired former twitter staff to rip off the platform. they said, quote, these employees haven't continue to have access to twitter trade secrets and other highly confidential information. these employees oh ongoing obligations to twitter, they maintain twitter documents and electronic devices. matter responded with no

comment to our inquiries but there are reports of some meta employees claiming on the threads platform that no former twitter staff worked on this project. i went and spoke with a number of legal experts and they tell me this is going to be tough for twitter to enforce. they would have to prove their own intellectual property like the underlying code was taken because us copyright law doesn't protect ideas, no one can have a monopoly on ideas. history shows taking inspiration has worked out for meta-blooge they have done this before, they copied tiktok, snap with stories, that works out for them. twitter's new ceo projected an air of confidence withing, quote, you built the twitter community and that is replaceable, this is your public square, you're often imitated but the twitter community can never be duplicated. even so, the legal threat speaks for itself, twitter is worried, they've taken on small competitors before but nothing with the strength of meta

behind it. dave: it is just chapter one, early days. this thing will get even more exciting. our next guest led the fight to limit the administration's contact with social media comedies. let's bring in andrew bailey. you won, at least in the lower courts, federal judge put out an injunction against the administration for meeting with social media companies, the administration and its supporters, they claim the judge's injunction seeks to limit the government's free-speech but the judge who issued the injunction spoke to this and said in his written summation it was not public statements that were the problem, it was the alleged use of government agencies and employees to coerce and/or significantly encourage social media platforms to suppress free speech on those platforms. your thoughts? >> we are not going to let

president biden destroyed free-speech in america, this is about protecting our first amendment rights, the first amendment is designed to have an uninhabited marketplace of free exchange of ideas and we saw a relationship of coercion and collusion where the federal government was censoring speech on big tech, social media in violation of the first amendment, essentially what the judge said was you can't do with the constitution forbids. you got to respect the constitution so why is that about of justice appealing this, clearly they are dedicated to future violations of our right to free speech so we will continue to fight to protect against this suppression of americans voices. dave: are you monitoring the administration to see if they are still at this at least in some of the agencies they oversee? >> absolutely. we will take anyone to court his filing in the court order, we will fight this. we are just now getting, we only scratch the surface, did luminary discovery, to numerous depositions, got 20,000 pages of documents but with this court order and this injunction, we will continue to push a lawsuit forward, root

out the censorship enterprise and hold any wrongdoers accountable who seek to silence american voices. the voices they were silencing were truthful but they were also only conservative. the idea we would use the federal government to silence political opposition runs contrary to everything, the legacy of freedom codified in the first amendment the founders gave us. dave: i want to switch gears, you're using the supreme court's decision that bars race-based minority scholarship programs, does this include all schools across the state, both public and private? >> the court said the way to end racial discrimination in america is stop making discover is where decisions based on race. that was true in context but since the 1990s, they interpreted the constitution to allow discover the story race-based decisions in college admissions and put a end to it last week and happy they did so

so it is necessary to reset conversation at the state level and put stakeholders on notice that the constitution does not permit race-based discrimination for college admissions. we will get the full meaning and effect to the original understanding of the equal protection clause. dave: i could understand those institutions related to the government. but private colleges, historical black colleges that almost by definition do this, nate on the basis of race in favor of black americans, do you think that should become illegal? >> what i think is in a university that falls under these constitutional prohibitions has to comply with the law the land the government to us by the supreme court and the court addressed that issue and said hbc yous are still permitted to achieve their objectives and pursue their goals, they can't violate the constitution in doing so, so we will continue to fight to end

racial dissemination in the state of missouri by upholding the constitutional mandate given to us by the supreme court. dave: it will be interesting whether or not the administration takes it to the highest court in the land the whether the supreme court has to have another monumental decision. you are right behind it. thanks for joining us today. appreciate it. >> thank you for having me on. dave: the national society of black engineers is the latest group to pool their own event out of florida. a closer look with a floridian transplant, carol markowitz, right after the break. ♪ with fidelity income planning, a dedicated advisor can help you grow and protect your wealth, even when you're not working. they'll look at your full financial picture and help you create a flexible strategy

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dave: another day another story of robbery resulting in a death

in the bagel apple's cvs employee is accused of stabbing a man to death and trying to shoplift gatorade from a times square store. the shoplifter had 12 previous arrests. the cvs employee was -- will literally kill the shoplifter was arrested at the scene, later charged with murder and criminal possession of a weapon. new york post columnist carol markowitz now lives in florida, rare appearance in your old hometown. it's not just new york obviously, cities all over the country have effectively decriminalized theft. is this what we saw just happen at the cvs, the inevitable consequence of that, legalizing theft or closing down of a store or both, you are going to have this sort of thing. >> there's only one of two ways this can go, fight back against the shoplifters or close the store. there's no universe where store continues to get shoplifted and remains open. i don't know the store.

i would bet there's more to this which i'm sure it wasn't just a guy walking out with gatorade. maybe he was already violent, maybe he was being aggressive and that is what happen. dave: he had been seen in the store doing that many times. that's what i witnesses claimed about him. >> i would love to hear more from the man who was arrested because i feel there will be more to this and the idea that nobody should protect themselves and having a knife on your person is a crazy thing in new york city at is simply not. you don't what the criminals to be the only ones with weapons. dave: it puts everybody, just millimeters away from either becoming a victim of crime or being arrested for trying to protect themselves. >> the message that shoplifting is okay is not one that you can have unless you want to really chaotic society. i personally don't, so i don't think shoplifting should be okay. dave: i have a prop here, this spring bottle, i actually -- right out of the subway, i

usually shop there for whatever i need. it is happening, it is like the wild west is now part of new york city. >> i talk about growing up in new york city but the difference is now we hear a story like this and people say that shoplifting should just be accepted or crime is okay. crime is not okay. when i was growing up in a rough new york city we all agreed crime was bad and the differences we can't even get to the point of agreement. dave: i think we are close. everyone who's affected, that is where i shop too. i want to switch back to your new home state, florida, where the national society of black engineers pooled their convention, their 50th convention out of orlando, moving it to atlanta, georgia after the, aa cp suggested florida isn't safer black people. >> the naacp is a far left political organization that nobody should listen to.

i live in florida, we are very welcoming. i don't hear anybody in florida say don't come or these people shouldn't be there. it is always these very politicized groups who send this message that florida is bad. i have black friends and photo, gay friends, gay black friends, everybody is doing just great and numbers represent themselves, florida is number one for tourism because we are a wonderful state to visit. dave: the number of entrances is growing, 3000 a day or so. >> the idea that governor desantis is trying to have anybody not come is ridiculous which i met the man, he's very welcoming. we welcome everybody in florida. dave: plastic of the indies up a lot -- the naacp claims aggressive attempts to erase black history and restrict diversity, equity and inclusion programs is why they are doing is that. dave: absolutely not. black history is mandatory to be taught in florida schools

about nonsense leftism that often gets snuck into black history is not. i like that. i want my kids to learn african-american history in america at not some leftist nonsense that gets inserted in. dave: are you more sure than ever that you did the right thing? >> yes. i love florida. they are really happy. thank you so much. dave: speaking go florida, ron desantis unleashing his wife or her first solo event. we will ask charlie hurt whether this could help them connect better with voters, that is coming up. ♪ ♪ the biggest ideas inspire new ones. 30 years ago, state street created an etf

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competition, not winner take all, will benefit from that. dave: janet yellen making those remarks to the chinese premier, but does china share the same sentiment. the author of the coming collapse of china, gordon chang, yellen doesn't believe in winner takes all but it takes two to tango and i don't see a lot of brotherly love out of the chinese premier. >> certainly not and certainly not out of the chinese regime as a whole. there has been a determined campaign against foreign business. most recently manifested itself in these amendments to the counterespionage law, and china is going after state secrets but also anything that relates to china's national interests, criminalizes information gathering, this makes it impossible to do business in

china. this is the most recent attack on american and foreign business. yellen needs to recognize that and so do we. dave: so far the biden administration has kept intact a lot of the trump trade restrictions but i'm wondering if you think yellen's trip means is they may be on the verge of changing that, removing some of those trade restrictions despite very antagonistic behavior of the chinese government. >> i hope not. yellen was, to her credit, said the united states is going to keep restrictions in place relating to national security. i don't know how far she will go doing that but that's the president's decision, not hers. we have an administration that wants to build communication links with china, that wants to make the chinese happy even though as you point out it is now going against foreign business hard. xi jinping cannot put in place

a maoist system now but that is his goal and he has been making progress toward it especially over the last 2 or 3 years. dave: he shares the attitude of most egalitarians who don't act well, they ask well to hard-core pushback. you think despite the trade restrictions, bob light heiser going to china and reading them a ride act and putting on the trade restrictions, you add the chinese somewhat cooperative. i would suggest more cooperative than they are now, agreed to accept a lot of produce from american farmers etc. . if anything, that soft approach, the softball approach has the opposite effect of playing tough. >> we should member the day that yellen arrived in china yesterday xi xinping went to the chinese military eastern theater commander, that's the command that will invade taiwan and gave her another of his let's go to war speeches. the biden administration is not looking at the signals.

china's leaders clear what he wants to do and biden does basically, is not concerned at all about all the signs that china wants to go to war. you would think they wouldn't want to but that is what they've been saying. dave: things are not all rosy for the chinese, not just their economy but the road initiative where their past is catching up to them. a lot of countries in places like latin america or africa the chinese of come in, bribed a couple top officials and then taken much more, billions of dollars worth of goods from those countries, old term, gold and other minerals etc. . has that passed caught up with the chinese government, what the initiative is all about? >> it is catching up with them because they are building infrastructure the private sector thought was on bankable, not financeable so we see a lot of these road homes going belly

up especially in pakistan and sri lanka and africa there was the zambia deal, but so many other places that basically cannot pay china back and you can hear this from the chinese regime itself because they don't emphasize that like they did for 5 years ago which they talked about all the time. now they realize they've got a lot of bad loans they can't deal with. dave: good to see you, thanks for being here. it has been 100 days since wall street journal reporter was detained in russia during the reporting trip, falsely accused while he was there of espionage. jeff paul is in london with more details on this. >> reporter: just this week the kremlin signals a prisoner swap is a possibility but they wouldn't be having any of those conversations in the public. when you ask the white house about that they say they don't have any breakthroughs to report and that is leaving

evans's family, for this to be a long process. they were given some relief last month when they physically got to see and speak with evan, his latest pre-detention trial hearing in russia. >> it's hard enough to leave him there than it was the first time. >> trying not to think about it. >> reporter: part of a new interview the family did with the wall street journal who employs evan. 's parents say when they saw him he appeared to be in good spirits. that's how the un ambassador to russia, when russia granted access to him for the first time in three months. evan's parents and sister danielle say right now the only thing they will rely on is the promise that president biden made to do everything he can to bring evan home. >> i have amazing support.

i have amazing parents, just knowing about our government is doing everything in their power right now and just everyone wants to help, thinking about him and -- >> reporter: we spoke with one of evan's colleagues, there is no way evan was involved, he's a journalist, a good journalist, russia knows that. they cannot only get home but give back to the newsroom where they want him. dave: can't wait till that happens. let's check in with "the big money show" to see what they have coming up today. taylor: happy jobs day. huge market reaction, further analysis of job numbers and what it means for the economy

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>> one thing when policies come after us as mamas, another when your policies come after our children. that's when the clause come out. dave: wife of gop presidential candidate ron desantis soloing her first attempt, her husband is a disaster being cold and distant, showing in his poll numbers. mrs. desantis, his key to connect with voters underground? charlie hurt joins me now. if anything desantis's numbers have been going down as trump's numbers go up. will she help him? >> when you see is that interview and other interviews you can't help but think she might help. she's a little bit warmer but

this is the problem with politics. if you don't have that connection with voters, desantis struggles with is that, you have a real problem. talk to people in florida, they love desantis and ask them why, they tell you about some policy he has enacted that they love that affected them personally. the problem is you can't go to iowa and convince people with their heads, have to connect with the heart. dave: i'm a numbers guy, but look at the numbers, compare florida to california, florida to illinois or florida to new york, new york, about the same, florida has 2 million more people, look at the size of the government. florida has one half the size of government. one half the size of government and look how much they pay in taxes, 0 as opposed to 10.

9 in new york. what does that lead to? florida, new york growing at 8%. >> spend the most amount of time in florida or new york and the quality of life difference, and the quality of life difference in florida is so much better than the quality-of-life here, people are going to the bathroom on the street. dave: i was told walking with steve moore to an event in new york city, 48th and park avenue, a guy was dying of an overdose, stopped breathing, his friend was trying to get going, held down an ambulance that was passing by, god help those poor ambulance guys, they are overworked. they've seen this, the second

time we've seen this, that does happen in florida but not with the frequency it happens in new york, san francisco. >> that so dehumanizing not only the poor fellow in this situation by overdosing but everybody that is around and children see that -- dave: he's not telling it well. when we go to democrats. politico had this piece about the michigan governor which was a glowing piece. it looks like politico and other people that want biden to win are desperate for realizing biden night not be able, somebody to replace him. >> one of the things they are looking for, they need something other than kamala, they are smart to be looking at a place like michigan, our state they famously ignored in

2016 meaning it is getable by the right republican or at least it was six years ago. the problem with witmer is she's going to have a hard time selling outside her state. when you look at her policies when it came to covid and the hypocrisy of it. everyone was not allowed to go on the lakes and she had her own family boat taken out of drydock. dave: en like governor newsom she's got a budget surplus. governor newsom has a bad deficit so she has better economic policy but one name keeps coming up occasionally which somebody who doesn't have a background she has to worry about is michelle obama. the possibility of someone who says she left office, very good

favorable ratings, she doesn't have policy baggage she has to carry with her into a potential campaign. >> she has her husband's policy baggage. how much would you give to have obama's policies back in the white house as opposed to biden's? the problem with her, she has the same problem with connection to voters. you can't fake liking voters, connecting with voters. at the end of the day she ends up having a problem connecting. dave: great to see you, thanks very much. more coast-to-coast right after this. ♪

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oh, and happy birthday... or retirement... in advance. dave: taylor's electric touch is being felt across the world, canada is feeling a little left out. >> reporter: everyone wants to see the tour including some world leaders. this tweet announcing the addition of 14 new shows in europe but still none in canada. it prompted prime minister justin trudeau to shoot a shot, it's me, i know places in canada would love to have you

so don't make it another cruel summer, we hope to see you soon. a strong but subtle reference to two of the popstar's hit singles. no response from taylor yet. no dates in canada but she is certainly very busy. she just re-released her speak now album. she has been re-recording her old music after her early catalog was sold to talent agent scooter braun. there's been a lot of positive response to it but neil is an a dell feel. would you see it? dave: i'm afraid not. my daughter is out of the house now. she may be one but there is nobody in the house who would go. but at any rate a lot of people want to see, not excluding justin trudeau. from one taylor to another, and "the big money show" to take you through the next hour. taylor: hard act to follow but i will take it.