>> all of this money is looking for a home. they're chasing quality. that's going to be really good for the markets in general but

specifically for big tech that's going to continue rise further and faster maybe as much as three times faster. >> biden's image and standing in the uk is significantly fall and tide has turned against biden and he's viewed as anti-british and something that's really, i think, way out of hi depth on the international stage. >> they're in our schools, in hotels, driving up the cost for working families. this is the party saying they're for open border. if joe biden signs it, that would fix the problem. >> trump's numbers are terrible. half the republicans don't want him. he's effectively an incumbent president and half of his own president doesn't want him. if he's the nominee, we're going to lose. he's our hillary clinton. stuart: why would i feel good coming back after a two week vacation. i don't know, but i do feel good. it is 11:00 eastern time, monday, july the 10 and what's

happening on the markets. dow industrials up 130, nasdaq down 10, s&p up 8 -- sorry, 1 point. a big cpi numbers coming out on wednesday morning. there's anxiety ahead of that report. show me big tech, please. another mixed picture. we have one winner, meta, the rest are losers, apple, amazon, microsoft, amazon, all down. 10-year treasury yield, close to 4% level. 404 to be precise. coming up, got to tell you this. this hour, we have florida's governor, ron desantis. but first, this, the latest fox poll shows donald trump way out front of the gop pack. he leads ron desantis 56-22. six weeks after the launch, the florida governor's campaign appears to be stalled. in some states like new hampshire, he's lost ground. of course, it is very early and primaries are months away and that's a lifetime in politics,

we know it. but the campaigns of the gop hopefuls are all scrambling to figure out how to catch up with trump. some hope the former president's legal troubles will hurt. others like vivek ramaswamy, they've come up with radical ideas for new generation of voters. desantis appeared with maria yesterday and presented a list of ways to bring america back. control spending, open domestic energy supplies, stop the transfer of wealth from the middle class to big corporations. he's in a tough spot though. trump is chiming in calling desantis un-inspiring amongst other things. the media has no time for any republican, especially the governor of florida. msnbc started name calling his wife casey. maybe that helps the governor. the key question for the desantis campaign is how to catch up with and beat donald trump. the governor will join us in just a few minutes. the third hour of varney continues after this.

stuart: a political professional by the name of david avella joins us now. as a professional, can desantis close the gap with trump and if so, how do you think he does it? >> we start with this agenda-driven media continuing to attack him and his wife. keep in mind every time president trump is attacked by the agenda-driven media, you see republicans rally to him. the best thing as a republican candidate you can have going for you is have much of the agenda-driven media attacking you so he has that. the bigger thing, stuart, in 44 days is the fox news debate. that is when you'll start to first time have voters foe cussing on the -- focusing on the field of candidates and desantis will have to come out and present two or three ideas that republican voters say i want that and he can present it

better than what donald trump or anybody on that stage can do. stuart: but we don't know whether mr. trump will appear in the debate. >> hard to see president trump not coming. one, it's always been an asset for him to be on the debate stage. and two, if he's not there, it will only give desantis and others that opportunity to get their message before voters and give them a chance to get some oxygen, which is what donald trump does very good job at keeping from everyone when he's on the stage. stuart: one host msnbc host, chuck todd, came to the president's defense about not recognizing his seventh grandchild. watch this, please. >> i think we've all understand the personal challenge and concern and all of these things that the -- that the president has here. but his political foes are seeing this and trying to exploit -- i mean, there's no

doubt every day desantis or trump tries to use hunter to beat up biden. stuart: well, he's defending the president on his grandchild. but look at this from the new york times op ed, the president's cold shoulder and heart is counter to every message he's sent for decades, and it is out of sync with the america he wants to continue to lead. david, is this issue, the seventh grandchild acknowledged or not, is that going to be an issue in 2024? >> not as much as the fact that 56% of americans believe it is biden's economic policies that continue to keep inflation high. and to your point about the president's grandchild. he's not republican. for chuck todd to suggest it's only republicans that are concerned about this, it is just agenda driven quite frankly. there's democrats equally concerned about this, but it's not what will defeat joe biden. what will defeat joe biden is

that he's done a terrible job on the economy and voters believe that. and worse for the president is they don't believe his ideas will make things better. >> there's a good deal of maneuvers among democrats aimed, i think, at not having joe biden as the candidate in 2024. not sure how they remove him from the top of the ticket but a lot going on there. you think biden will actually be the candidate in 2024? >> i know you have a bold prediction that he will not be which if you're right, people say, wow, stuart, he called it. if you're wrong, no one will remember you said it, stuart. that's the good thing about making bold predictions. stuart: make a bold prediction. go ahead. >> i'll see your prediction and up you in the vice president harris will not be the vice president nominee. you will see whether it's newsom or pritzker, there's an easier

movement to get her replaced than it will be to try and take on the president and get him replaced. that's why everybody keeps talking about wanting someone else but yet no one will step up and challenge the president. if you're one of this next generation of democratic operatives, you're not getting to the white house is a problem with kamala harris staying as vice president and now we're on like the 52nd reset of this white house so she's up for doing the is job as she continues to stumble, there'll be much more noise about replacing her as vp than replacing biden as president. stuart: very diplomatic response and escape from a bold prediction. david avella, you're all right. >> it is a prediction. stuart: not as good as mine but thank you very much. we've got jason katz to look at the markets with us. it's not doing much this morning. you still think we're grog to get into a recession? >> what's been the most anticipated recession of all time is now the most postponed

recession of all time. think about the setup here and we have such strong household finances and strong corporate balance sheets and strong labor market and i can't remember in my three decades on wall street a setup like this translating into a bad recession. we've had the rolling recessions, and i think that when we finally get a recession, it'll be relatively modest. so the bottom line is i would brace for not a tropical storm, but rather maybe a bad rain shower. stuart: you're not really looking for a big sharp drop on the stock market. >> i'm not. stuart: a modest steady as you go kind of thing? >> the feat of the economy and recession, and the market for that matter, largely hinges on what the fed does. the market fully discounted the next rate headache but hasn't discounted the one after that. this wednesday cpi number, if it comes in 0.3 on headline and core, the markets will get a bit wobbly. but that's the expectation.

i think it could come a bit lower than that. if it comes in a 0.2, we're looking at 2.5% annualized rate and in which case, i think the fed takes their foot off the gas. stuart: interest. i've asked many of our guests this, the ai stocks, are they a bubble? >> the answer is no. think back to dot com era and they were gold and here find the ones that supply the picks and shovels and go out on the spectrum to speculate on the internet back in the day. here all the stalwarts, your microsoft and these have many other lines of business and if ai doesn't materialize the way we hope and think it will, you're owning substantial businesses with multiple other levers to pull. stuart: a bust of ai would hurt the small up and comers and not much from the establishment players. microsoft, alphabet, c3ai, et

cetera. i'm not selling my microsoft. that's the shortcut answer. >> it's a one decision stock. stuart: jason katz, thank you for joining us. lauren has the movers. what's-up with amazon this morning? lauren: down about 2%. they have prime day tomorrow and wednesday. everyone is looking for a deal with prices so high. amazon stock is disown going into prime -- is downgoing into prime day. stuart: apple. lauren: weakness in the app store and that's part of their services and they cite that weakness because of the gaming market. app downloads are up in june but not as much as anticipated. stuart: got close to $200 a share last week? lauren: i forget but hit the one trillion market cap. i forget the exact number on the share price. stuart: it's at $188 right now and we'll take that. novo vax. lauren: the stock up 28% and cash injection from canada and they're paying $350 million to

novo vax for canceled covid vaccine order. stuart: how about that. lauren: they're getting it. stuart: doesn't take it. lauren: there's no demand and they're still paying in two different installments. stuart: okay. now here comes the bride and the bot. chatgpt just officiated at a wedding ceremony and included scripture and speeches. we of course will show it to you. take a look at this, armed man holds up a toy store in broad daylight. children as young as 8 forced to put hands up and hide in the corner and the gunman is still loose. real clear politics shows donald trump with a 32 point lead over -- point lead over ron desantis. how is he going to catch up before the primaries? the governor joins me next. ♪

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shows donald trump dominating the gop primaries. he leads florida's governor ron desantis 56-22. governor de-san tace joins me -- desantis joins me now. welcome to the program, governor. forgive me. i'd like to do rapid fire questions to pack a lot in with that. you're down over 30 points to trump. what's your strategy for catching up? >> well, first i think it's pretty clear that the media does not want me to be the candidate. i think they've tried to create a narrative that somehow the race is over. this is going to be a state by

state contest. we've worked really hard to build the type of organization in places like iowa, new hampshire, south carolina that you need to actually be able to win these early contests and we're going to continue doing that. we got a lot of work but we've had very, very favorable response and we're going to keep building off that momentum. at the end of the day, i think the fact that i'm the one that's tactorred by the media, by the left, even by the president of mexico is because people know that i will beat biden and they know i will actually deliver on all these issues and beat the democrats at the border, beat them on things like esg. beat them on things like crime, and they don't want to see that. we're going to keep telling the truth and i think you're going to see good results. stuart: your rival, one of your rivals i'm going to say is governor newsom of california, he wants the justice department to investigate your migrant flights to california. what's your response to that? >> well, i think it's just absurd. california is a sanctuary state

and they provide benefits for illegal aliens and they're serving really as a magnet for people to cross our border illegally. don't get me wrong, stuart, we'll shut the border down when i'm president, we'll stop the invasion. we will build the border wall because i think you need that, and we'll hold the mexican drug cartels accountable for what they've done to poison tens of thousands of americans every year. at the same time if you do have people here illegally and a court says they can stay until there's some type of court date, that's a bad system. if it is, the sanctuary jurisdiction should be the one to have to bear that burden. we're not a sanctuary state in florida, and i think it's wrong that states that are doing it right would have to bear burden and they've asked for this. they've invited it, and they should step up. stuart: do we need these migrants to work? i've been in florida a lot recently and i do see my grants rebuilding -- migrants rebuilding the southern part of the state after ian, the hurricane.

should they work? >> well, you work legally so we do have programs as you know, you have things like h2av visa programs and we'll have to look at all that and at the end of the day since covid, the federal government decided to pay people not to work and a lot of people have basically fallen out of the work force. some do certain jobs and maybe more so than others but at the end of the day, we want a situation in which able-bodied americans and in particular able-bodied men are working. that's what should be and not have them get benefits without working. covid kind of changes that, and i think we need to get more americans back to work. get them back in the work force. stuart: i wonder what we're going to do with the 5 million that krugere come into our country since joe biden was the president. they're not going to go back voluntarily. doesn't look like we're gone that force them out with ice. what are we going to do with them? >> no, you absolutely can enforce the law, stuart. i think at end of the day, we can debate what type of

immigration policy we want but whatever we have needs to be enforced. you've had millions of people that have come, made bogus asylum claims and manipulated the system to be here. i absolutely think they should have to face typical law enforcement like everybody else would have to do. it's imposed a huge burden on our society. it's obviously helped provide cover for drug cartels to engage in really unstickable conduct -- unspeakable conduct and human trafficking and bringing fentanyl in and every corner of the country there's municipal cities where mothers are losing kids to fentanyl overdose. it's been a huge, huge problem to have biden's policy and that ends on day one when i'm president. stuart: msnbc came after your wife calling her america's karen. i have to do this to you, governor. watch this, please. >> for many she's the brighter side to florida's angry governor. for other's she's become america's karen.

>> america's karen. >> i called her, you know, serena waterford wan that bee needs to cut it out. we see you. there's all kinds of names and stop trying to measure the great drapes in the white house and think she's a jackie o reincarnate. stuart: governor, i didn't know coming out of that if you'd be angry or smiling. appears you really don't care. what's your response? >> it shows my wife is an incredibly strong first lady of florida, a fantastic mother, and a great wife. that threatens the left. she and i kind of shrug it off because they view her as a threat. the message she was bringing in iowa about the rights of parents and how we are not going to take this anymore with the left trying to indoctrinate our kids. they understand that that resinates. not just with republican parents, with independent parents and, yes, democrat parents. i think they're very worried about her effectiveness and so

all that's doing is confirming that she's over the target. she's a great advocate for families, a great advocate for children. and i'm thankful that she's my wife and i'm really honor that she's willing to go out there and press the case and so we wear criticism from msnbc as a badge of honor. stuart: got it. last one. the headlines are full of stories about wild fires, smoke, extraordinary temperatures in the southwest and the southeast. to some degree. do you have a climate plan? >> it's going to be to rip up joe biden's green new deal. i think at the end of the day, we need to embrace american domestic energy. this could be a huge source of national security, economic vitality, it can build our industrial base. in florida, we've actually had a huge reduction in emissions but it was done through innovation. it was done think market forces not commanding control and we'll go about that? a much different direction than

joe biden. i think ultimately biden's policies and biden is really about making the average person poorer and reducing their standard of living. that is not the way you go about it. stuart: if you had to pick one policy priority here and now you're really going to run forcefully on, what is it? >> i think it's secure this border and this invasion, build this wall, and hold these mexican drug cartels accountable. this has been a colossal failure. we'll have a plan on day one to declare a state of emergency. there will be a new sheriff in town, and we will mobilize all available assets to be able to reestablish the sovereignty of this country. stuart: start drilling again for domestic energy? >> 100%. i mean, it's a no brainer. we have so much resource here. why would we ever want to be at the whim of foreign countries, particularly hostile foreign governments and so we want to do more oil, we want to do more

gas. we need to permit more pipelines. this is great infrastructure for our country, it's great jobs, and it'll ultimately make things a lot better. we could potentially have a huge competitive advantage over a country like china because, you know, their oil resources are much scarcer than ours and we should embrace that and we'll do that. there'll be a whole new policy in place on day one and the biden green new deal is out the window. stuart: what would you do with the department of justice and fbi on day one? >> end the weaponization of government. you will have a new fbi director under my administration. you're going to see the justice department cleaned out, and you're going to see parts of these agencies removed from washington dc and fared out in other parts of the country. one of the things that's happen second-degree there's an accumulation of power in washington, it's a very partisan town, a very political town, and i think it's irreparably damaged

the culture of the agencies and now become the point where there's a separate standard of justice whether you're connected to those folks in the dc class like hunter biden because i think if he were a republican, he'd have been in jail a long time ago. if you're not part oaf that class, man, if you jaywalk and they want to come after you, they'll nail you to the wall and that's just intolerable for a free society based on rule of law. stuart: one last one, where does the economy stand in your list of priorities? >> oh, it's right up there, day one issue. i think we have a opportunity to reverse bidennomic s and spending under control and do the energy initiatives we discussed and nuke things like esg. we can't have a politicized economy. it just doesn't work. we need to rip up all the bureaucratic excess and unleash some creative forces in the economy and we need a better education system.

stop with the indoctrination and let's focus on producing people, maybe college degree but also with vocational skills that can be a part of a new era of advanced manufacturing as we look to rebuild the industrial base. stuart: governor ron desantis of florida, thank you very much for taking time out of a very busy schedule. we understand that, governor. much appreciate it. >> yep, thank you. stuart: thank you. see you again, sir. chris christie says donald trump doesn't care about the american people. roll it. >> this is not somebody that's fighting for the american people and their future. this is all about his ego. stuart: maga inc, the pro trump super power is here to react to that and governor desantis. next. ♪

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spokeswoman caroline levitt. welcome to the show. we asked governor ron desantis how he plans to catch up to president trump who indeed has a large lead. >> the media does not want me to be the candidate. they've tried to create narratives that somehow the race is over. we've worked really hard to build the type of organization in places like iowa, new hampshire, south carolina that you need to actually be able to win these early contests. people know that i will beat biden is they know that i will actually deliver on all these issues and beat the democrats. stuart: caroline, i have to tell you, you surely saw this. the governor did not attack trump. he didn't attack newsom of california. he is not in attack mode at this point. >> well, he should change his strategy because quite frankly the governor sounds a bit delusional. his campaign has been losing since the day hoe anno, your honored and epic failure on twitter spaces and losing in every try mare space by 20-40

points including his own backyard in florida and new poll this morning out of florida shows donald trump is ahead by 20 points. don't take it from me, stu, take it from desantis' own spokesperson steve cortez saying donald trump is the run away front runner in this race, and he's right. donald trump had 50,000 patriots show up for him on the fourth out of july weekend in scorching heat to support the former president. he's not only winning with republican primary voters but also beating joe biden in the rcp average and he's the leading front runner in this race in both the primary and the general election because the american people know their lives were a heck of a lot better under donald trump. he renegotiated nafta and cut tacks and secured the border and made china pay $28 billion to the farmers in iowa and it's a state he's leading by 38 points. we need to rally around donald trump to take this fight directly to joe biden and the far left. stuart: okay, consider this

attack on trump from chris christie. he's really ramping up ataxoon donald trump. now he's questioning the size of the former president's campaign rallies. to which you just referred. watch this please, roll it. >> 50,000 is absurd but miami not going to argument about that. here's why he doesn't care about the american people. he droned on for an hour and a half yesterday in iowa. this is not somebody that's fighting for the american people and their future. this is all about his ego. stuart: it's all about trump's ego. well, you're a trump supporter. respond, please. >> i'm laughing at that because chris christie is polling in the single digits and can't even fill up a small diner in new hampshire never mind a rally of more than 50,000 people and local law enforcement in south carolina said that so i'll take their word for it and we saw the footage and donald trump is not in this and that's a ridiculous assertion and he's been attacked by the left, media, democrats, and republicans in washington dc too since the second he got into

this golden especially kansas escalator years ago.if it was he stand up to fight for the american people again knowing the full weight of the department of justice trying to imprison him right now and he's doing this because he loves the people and the people love him. again, as ron desantis' spokesperson said donald trump is the people's president. he's a right wing populous and why he'll win the primary and be the next president. stuart: caroline, thank you very much for joining us this morning. we appreciate it always. back to the markets, dow is up 151 points at this stage and green for everybody else too. nasdaq up a little and s&p up 4 points just a little. lauren is back with the movers and we're starting with rivian. lauren: they're up almost 7% for the ninth day in a row. last week they announced stronger ev deliveries so up nine days in a r. it's amazing. stuart: tesla, up or down today? lauren: it's down by 1.5% and

influential tesla analyst named gary black and cyber truck is cool and i've preordered one but many pickup truck owners want something more traditional looking and he's -- that's going to move the stock and jeffries did raise the price target on tesla to $265 but the stock is at $270 right now and concern about all the price cuts that elon musk did for market share will hurt the margins. stuart: but still $270 per share. lauren: neo has a battery in china that goes 600+ miles. that's 7%. stuart: 600+ miles, up goes the stock. got it, thanks, lauren. smoke pot may no longer be a deal breaker for the military. there's a bipartisan push to loosen the rules by marijuana use by recruits. tell you all about it. a man charged with murder after police say he went on a shooting spree on his scooter. an 87-year-old man is dead and

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stuart: it is time now for this day in history, american built. on this day, july 10th, 1933, the east chester new york police department became the first to have a two way radio system installed in police cars. now you know. don't forget to watch american built mondays, 9:00 p.m. eastern only on fox business prime. and this too, a gunman riding a scooter shot four people in broad daylight in new york city over the weekend. alexis mcadam is with me. take me through what happened, alexis. reporter: hey, stuart, it was a wild shooting spree that left an

86-year-old man dead and others injured here and investigators were able to track that gunman down quickly and this is who we're talking about and he's now in police custody right now. this is 25-year-old thomas abayu arrested on sunday facing murder and attempted murder charges in this case. he was smiling in the backseat of the cop car as he was in those handcuffs too and road away. he was accused of shooting and killing that 86-year-old man and injuring three others in a series of drive by shootings across new york city and he was riding on a scooter and pulled out a gun and shot the victims at random. he had one other arrest in 2019 and according to the post, he used a ghost gun, which is a gun with no serial number. listen. >> more importantly the 9-millimeter semiautomatic pistol were also recovered and extended magazine as well as additional 9-millimeter rounds were also recovered. reporter: now, this all comes as investigators here in new york

are looking at third vigilante killing in the city in just three months. this time it was a cvs employee arrested after reportedly stabbing a shoplifter to death and he faces murder and manslaughter and he was punched in the face by a homeless shoplifter and he wined out a knife and short term orientatioa knife and stab that had shoplifter in the torso and he was a known leaf and long rap sheet and shopping from other stores in the area continuously. kathy hochul says hey, new york city is safer than other big cities but doesn't make many new yorkers feel better about the situation. hochul pointing to bail reform changes and reminding judges to look closely at power that's been returned to them asking them to see whether the perp is a repeat offender, which as we know, stuart, in so many cases, that's what happens. now in this investigation, we know the suspect will be in court later today and he faces 25 years to life behind bars.

stuart. stuart: we got it, thanks very much indeed. now a judge in los angeles re-instated a controversial no bail policy. that's got rapper 50-cent, fitty i believe he is counting the alarm. lauren: la is finished, that's a quote. watch how bad it gets out there, smh, shaking my head. that was response to a local news report after a judge re-instated the no bail policy anyone charged with a misdemeanor and felony and battery, theft, vandalism and all okay. no one challenged order by the judge and not police chief or sheriff or da george gas gone. okay, fine gush gascon. stays the same it'll be crime. stuart: thanks, lauren. new footage shows a robber holding up a toy store with children inside. ashley, take nerve nucleus through it, please -- take me through it, please. ashley: surveillance footage shows a masked robber holding up

a toy store in mesa, arizona and kids were playing in the aisles, the robber ordered six customers, children as young as 8 to stand with their hands up in the corner while he demands cash and checks from the store manager and the crook got away with about $800 in cash and the toy store provides money transfers to other countries, which is why investigators believe it was targeted. that robber still on the loose. the store has since put a metal barrier around the register and new door chime has been installed and not sure how effective but to see that, the guy with the gun and kids putting -- it's just shockingly horrible. stuart: that's america today, isn't it? everybody sees it. ashley: yes. sadly. stuart: very sadly. all right, thanks, ash. let's get a sense of the market. you know what that means. we'll show you all 30 of the dow stocks. most are up and the dow itself is up over one-third of one percent and 120 point gain.

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stuart: there's a new bipartisan push to loosen restrictions on marijuana use in the military. ashley, what's the goal of that? ashley: well, the goal is to try and give recruitment a boost and try to get the numbers higher, so-to-speak. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are looking to relax the guidelines surrounding marijuana use for military members. republican lawmaker matt gates of florida, the latest to propose a change and introduced an amendment ending testing for military recruitment members and they've used lots of different incentives including offering bonuses and even for one week last year, dropping requirements that recruits have a high school

diploma or its equivalent. it hasn't worked and they're hoping loosening the rules on pot may attract new recruits. stuart: okay, thank you, ashley. on a related note, philadelphia is dealing with a dangerous drug trend among homeless people and use ago street drug known as tranq, t-r-a-n-q, and can cause flesh to rot right off the bone. joining me did a former fentanyl addict turned drug outreach coordinator and he's with me now. nate, before we get into this, i need to know how did you get off fentanyl? >> i got off fentanyl because human connection is the opposite of addiction and people rallied around me and believed in me and supported me, but they held firm boundaries. love comes with boundaries and responsibility and that's how i got off, people held me accountable. stuart: okay. we've been showing pictures of what i call zombie people, really drugged out on fentanyl. can you bring those people back to normal -- not going to say

normal but can you do it? >> yeah, certainly you can. i was somebody that struggled with fentanyl use. number one is cut off the supply. we're allowing xylazine, which is the zombie drug and in kensington, they're using it on the street and killing themselves slowly and we have to intervene. stuart: go into an area with force and deal with the situation and remove them and take them some place else. i don't know what, but is that what you do because that would be an enormous effort. >> it would be an enormous effort, but it's an enormous problem so i don't know what else kemp do. if a man is standing on a bridge saying he's going to kill himself. we don't say let's wait for him to step back and not kill himself. we send in police and first responders and social workers to get him off the ledge and get him to treatment. they're killing themselves slowly.

we have to do something and go in with some kind of force. stuart: are weeing it at the moment as a housing problem because that's a mistake. it should be considered a health problem. what say you? >> i agree. it's a mental health issue and we need to focus on intervention and prevention and keep people from getting on it to begin with and cut off the supply. representative jim banks, my home representative here, he's been putting pressure on the biden administration for awhile to try and go after xylazine and fentanyl and the supply is too great. stuart: is that something we can do, cut off the supply of fentanyl? there's so much of it around and it's coming in so fast. >> it's coming in at alarring rates but i think we can do it. it'll take a nationalist and that's one thing the -- nationaller and federal government can control the border and what's coming in and at the community level, step up and offer intervention services like what i do for my company and we need to have prevention services for the young people.

it is a mental health issue. a lot of young people see no hope and the other people see no hope and we have to offer hope. stuart: how long have you been off fentanyl for? gooey have been in active recovery for six years, sir. stuart: do you sometimes feel the urge to do it again? >> i mean, absolutely. that's part of brain science and something called ewe offensive rebounds ick recall and -- euphoric recall and it'll be triggered and you have that community around you and opposite of addiction is human connections and we have to make human connections and be held accountable. stuart: forgive me but what's the success rate of fentanyl addiction services? what's the portion of people that get off and stay off? >> well, it's a very low number. i don't know the exact number but it's hard. part of the problem is people don't have time to get off anymore. fete 23458 and also with xylazine tranq mix people are dying from the first use. we have to be aggressive of

getting rid of supply, intervention services and prevention. so many people die early from this. stuart: do you see a chance this massive effort will in fact take place? >> you know, i see it already taking place at least at a community and grass roots level as far as fran level, that remains to be seen. hasn't been done thus far and talk to a lot of people from kensington this weekend and people like mideast that have gotten out of homelessness and drug adexter loomis and given -- addiction and fighting the good fight and taking care of the community based problem and it's a red, white and blue and shall we have to some to the table and work together or it's not getting done, stuart. stuart: nate, thank you for being with us. we admire your honesty and sincerity. good to see you. now it's 11:55 and it means it's time for monday trivia question. which first lady was a direct descendent of hocopontas?wi

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stuart: here it is the trivia question which first lady was a direct descendent of pocahontas, helen taft, edith wilson. >> edith wilson. >> do you know or are you guessing. >> i'm trying to sound conf confident. >> if elizabeth warren was on

the i would say here, i'll go with truman. >> i love the initials vw elizabeth. stuart: i don't have a clue, what's the answer. the answer is edith wilson. i should get a lottery ticket she was also related to thomas jefferson and martha washington. who knew these things. thank you everybody for sending in your best wishes, this morning i have magnolia cupcakes from my team. >> how did you celebrate the big day. >> a party with my seven grandchildren. "coast to coast" starts right now. >> happy birthday stu coming up president biden overseas