♪ larry: so hollywood hates inflation because they lose real wages. how about a nice six-part series where hollywood hoes why big government socialism and bidenomics is a complete failure. then we'd love hollywood. how about that? of course, next up, we love liz macdonald. that's always true. elizabeth: what would you call it, pull -- pulp fiction? vertigo? [laughter] [laughter] great show.

another fbi controversy. a new investigation into the fbi spying on gop staffers who were working on fbu abuses -- fbi abuses of power. and is this a turning point? exactly why top democrats and donors are now talking to other candidates about replacing joe biden on the 2024 ticket. ask john kerry, he's heading to china. we're uncovering a stunning and huge amount of flights kerry takes around the world as he lectures you to go electric. and this bidenomics? a top biden agency chief a no-show at a hearing on massive government waste and fraud as biden wants to raise your taxes. plus, a new report, smoking gun e-mails detail hunter biden looks like he may have broken foreign lobbying laws. plus, new concerns that breakthrough drug we told you about, about alzheimer's may not work, but for who exactly? i'm liz macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now.

♪ ♪ elizabeth: happy friday. let's bridge back to the show grover norquist, head of americans for tax reform and ford o'connell. grover, first to you. that cnn report, top democrats and top donors now talking to other candidates to replace bind on the 2024 take iting that they're, quote, texting and e-mailing, making phone calls, big donors not locking in. the thing that also popped out, grover, democrat operatives compared biden to a house guest who's overstayed his welcome. is this a turning point? what do you think? >> well, it certainly seems to be coordinated. we even have the press talking about covering how he's abusive to staff, swears at them, bullies them. this has been known for a long time, and yet everybody held

back from talking about it. the press knew about it, the hill staff -- many of these people have worked for biden, and all of a sudden everybody's agreeing to talk about it whereas before then you couldn't. and the press secretary still calls on the people in the press who are taking -- making those criticisms. so there seems to be agreement in the room this guy has to go. he polls below trump and other republicans whereas a generic democrat does better with. elizabeth: so what grover just said, reports there's still no campaign headquarters, till no staffers on the ground, no, you know, central points for people to go to in the swing states. ford, or when you saw this story given what grover's saying, is this a turning point right now? what do you think? >> absolutely. the democrats are on high arelater right now because they're concerned that donald trump could become the next president of the united states. and it's not the tripping and falling and the random outbursts. it's clear that joe biden is not

all there. and also the campaign, lack of campaign activity. his fund raising is actually behind where donald trump and barack obama were at this point, so it would not surprise me if he actually is replaced, and the person he'd most likely be replaced with is california governor gavin newsom and a vice president to probably be approved by jim clyburn since he heads up the black caucus. elizabeth: grover, biden and the dnc raised far less than obama did at this point in 2011. it's something like $72 million, it's, like, 20% less versus obama's $86 million. there's no grassroots support. doubters say every day biden, you know, makes a gaffe or blunders and calls a lid early and is not doing full-on campaign rallies, grover. that raises even more doubts in voters' mind, reinforces to voters he's 80 years old and shouldn't run again. husband old age is a problem. >> -- his old age is a problem. >> well, and to pick somebody

other than biden is a wise move for the democrats. why run a candidate associated with high levels of inflation, with declining wages given inflation, who messed up in afghanistan and may have caused the problem in ukraine by his weakness in afghanistan with the kabul withdrawal. all of those negatives don't get handed over to the next democrat to announce he's running. oh, that wasn't me. elizabeth: to what grover just said, ford, but newsom? given what a basket case critics say california is? really? newsom? >> oh, there's no question that gavin newsom brings all the same problems to the table that joe biden does. the difference is that he is straight out of defensive casting. he's slightly younger, he's a halfway decent defensive communicator as we saw with sean hannity. and when it comes to the d.c. establishment, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, he is just transagessal enough to lie and

do exactly what the democrats want in d.c. should he be elected. elizabeth: so now we've got biden signing an executive order authorizing the pentagon to call up nearly 3500 reservists for deployment to europe amid the war in ukraine. i mean, gop lawmakers are slamming the move. and today, grover, we had 49 democrats saying no to biden wanting cluster bombs for ukraine. now, democrats are pushing back against biden in congress. >> well, he's -- when the king gets old, everybody starts looking around to see who they have to be nice to now and who could step in. newsom could jump in, it could also be handed off to the governor of michigan. i mean, there are a number of different options. and it'll be a small group of people who make this decision. and biden will be offered whatever pardons he needs, but also a promise that the party will speak well of him and hold

him as a beloved former e president. otherwise if he -- if he runs and loses, he'll be treated the way they treated mike dukakis and and other failed democrat presidents which is really pretty viciously. elizabeth: yeah, exactly. we saw that happen. you know, ford, final word on this because who is a better retail politician out there than trump? a lot of people don't like trump. we get it. we know what msnbc, cnn, those pundits say about it. but nobody breaks through and speaks to voters like trump does. he talks with them, he doesn't talk at them. i think people underestimate how, what a great retail politician trump is whether you hate him or love him. he does have that natural rapport and connection with voters when he's out there swinging through the states. what do you think? >> donald trump is the best retail politician the republicans have had since ronald reagan and, frankly, he actually likes to campaign. he's out there on podcasts, he's

out there at mma events. he is going places that republicans have never gone before and, frankly, not only is he getting stronger in the republican primary to your point, liz, he's also getting stronger in the general election. and let's not discount the possibility of a third party candidate and someone like cornel west because that will certainly hand the republicans the white house in 2024. elizabeth: yeah. peel away the votes from the democrats. grover, ford, great to see you both. back with us now, fbi special agent nicole parker. nicole, it's great that you joined us tonight. we appreciate it. so you saw the story, attorney general merrick garland tells house judiciary chair jim jordan that doj will make u.s. attorney david weiss available for a sit-down interview with house judiciary over those whistleblower allegations doj, fbi officials obstructed probes in order to help joe biden. what did you think of this story? >> you know, this is very, very important. americans want to know what is going on. and if mr. weiss is, indeed,

able to take charge of these investigations, then that's what needs to happen, and there needs to be no interference from anybody else at doj. elizabeth: so we've got, you know, weiss confirms an ongoing investigation into bribery allegations by a veteran fbi informant involving biden, hunter biden and the founder of burisma. when you saw that story, how serious did you think this was? is? >> i mean, this is, you know, extremely serious. like i said, americans deserve the know what is going on. i think that, you know, this week has been a very big week for the fbi and for involvement in these types of investigations. you know, the biden family has been looked at over and over, but the fbi and doj seem to be turning a blind eye or slow-walking these types of cases. elizabeth: so we've got house judiciary, another new scandal, a new investigation into why fbi officials spieded on two house staffers who worked for congressman devin nuñes in 2017 while he was on house intelligence and was investigating fbi for its botched trump-russia

controversies, that the fbi subpoenaed google and got these gop staffers' e-mail records, personal home and business addresses, phone records and more? jim jordan says this was retaliation for exposing fbi abuses. when you saw that, what was your take in. >> you know, it definitely does not look good. and like we learned, the only way that they found out about this was because google was notified -- had to notify the users because of the terms of the due process that was served. but, you know, these users would have never known this otherwise. just over and over we want transparency in what is happening. and when things are being investigated, you should not be the subject of an investigation because you are looking into other, you know, investigations. it, you know, it's just a continuous pattern here, and americans want transparency. people want to know the truth, and jim jordan is going to get to the bottom of this. elizabeth: this other story the, you know, the fbi workers, the agents catch a lot of bad guys, criminals, terrorists, drug and human traffickers. but gop lawmakers and

whistleblowers warn the problem is the heavily politicized d.c. field office getting way too involved in politics and abusing surveillance powers. let's get your reaction to what happened with this hearing about the fisa powers for the fbi today. watch this. >> but i think what is broken needs to be fixed. given the threats facing our nation from the ruling chinese communist party that represents both the leading and most consequential threat to u.s. national security and leadership globally? >> there's no question that the fbi and other agencies have continued to defy federal law and abuse their powers under fisa. the only question is what you're going to do about it. >> we must consider whether fisa and section 702 can be reformed or if it's beyond repair. the fbi's used fisa specifically section 702 to spy on americans to violate the fourth amendment and conduct warrantless searches. elizabeth: what do you think,

nicole? >> again, in this hearing that christopher wray testified at, this came up over and over about section 702, my apologies. and this is one thing that republicans and democrats actually agree upon. no one -- the americans deserve to have privacy, and that should not be an issue. and i think that they're going to have an issue with getting this renewed in the current format that it is. there will be drastic changes that will need to take place -- elizabeth: and, nicole, voters out there see a politicized fbi. they ran a botched trump-russia probe, found no trump-russia collusion to hack democrat e-mails, they relied on opposition research paid for by democrats. that was run out of the d.c. office, not a field office. they ran the mar-a-lago raid out of d.c., not miami. didn't alert congress they had allegations of bribery involving joe and hunter biden. we don't even know what the truth is behind that, we just know the allegations. and fbi director wray only came forward with that information when he was threatened with

contempt of congress. and irs whistleblowers -- fbi whistleblowers are saying this is a problem, what's going on with the fbi. >> and you're noticing a pattern, right? you go through each of these things, and there's a pattern. it's involving those at the wfo field office level or at the headquarters level, and i think the key is for the fbi to put the power back into the hands of those working in the field, in the very field offices. i'm not saying every field office is perfect, but i think that is a very important solution. after hearing these, you know, the congressional testimony of christopher wray, there are 38,000 employees at the fbi, and there's some outstanding employees. but i can tell you, americans have a very negative opinion of the fbi, and right now that does matter because the court of public opinion matters when you're trying to conduct your job as an f fbi agent. whether it's a handful of people involved or not, they can take down an entire organization's reputation, and there are a lot of very wonderful, hard working agents. we're talking about a murder investigation that's been involved -- solved and no one

cares to hear that when the fbi's plett sized. -- politicized. elizabeth: we hear you loud and clear. nicole parker, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. elizabeth: we're going to have fox news contributor liz peek, political analyst gianno caldwell and dr. marty makary on new warnings about the breakthrough alzheimer's drug that may not work, but for who exactly? come, congressman tim burchett. we've got the stunning amount of flights john kerry takes and took as he lectures you to go all electric. it's worse than realized. plus, why lawmakers say kerry misled congress. and is we've got this from viewer chuck from idaho, he writes, hey, e-mac, question for john kerry, how many electric cars and planes does kerry own? how many of kerry's homes are solar and wind-operated? just asking. you guys are so smart out there. keep it coming. all this coming up on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪

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elizabeth: back with us now from house foreign affairs, congressman tim burchett. congress bank, it's good to have you on. you were in yesterday's hearing with climate czar john kerry. he's demanding everyone go all electric. we dug into the documents. kerry has flown on airplanes to near lie half the world -- nearly half the world since

2013. we counted 88 nations. one newspaper said he's taken so many flights, looks like john kerry loves flying more on polluting jets more than the climate. >> yeah, it looks like it. you know, he was very i vasive too in his questioning, pretty much indicative of this white house from cocaine to hunter biden's laptop to anything else. they will not give us a straight answer. you can see the country countries that he's visited over there. and he's an unelected bureaucrat, and i pointed thissous u he is not confirmed by the u.s. senate, yes he has the power to negotiation, and he couldn't answer what this was costing taxpayers in the so-called climate treaties that he's getting us into. it looks to me like all he's doing is tying our hands all over the world and then allowing our enemies just to pass us up economically. elizabeth: is the house oversight chair going to subpoena him about all of this? >> i think so.

he poked the bear, you know? chairman comer doesn't like that when they do that, and i'm a big support per of his because of that. -- supportiveer of his -- supporter of his. he wouldn't tell about his people that he had working for him, he just wouldn't tell us anything. he had no i'll get back to you, that seems to be the standard line or he just evaded the questions completely, and to me, that's as good with as a no. yeah, i support chairman comer doing that. i think he will, absolutely. elizabeth: so the state department justified kerry's heavy use of jets by saying, quote, working on cleaner jet fuel? that's really an answer? let's get your response to kerry misleading congress claiming his family does not -- that he doesn't own a private jet, not disclosing that, yeah, the family did own it, and they sold it last year. >> we don't own a private jet, i don't own a private jet -- >> the john kerry family private jet was sold shortly after accusations of climate hypocrisy.

mr. secretary, do you stand by that testimony that you have owned -- >> i personally -- >> or your family? >> yes, my wife owned a plane, and she sold the plane -- >> [inaudible] >> not in a number of years, but i have flown on it. >> this article is not inaccurate, that your family owned a plane, you flew on a plane? >> my wife owned, my wife owned the plane. >> mr. secretary, here's the issue, this isn't some kind of a partisan gotcha. when we are asking americans to make serious sacrifices as we transition for the common good and your family and/or yourself are flying around on private jets, that smacks of hypocrisy. it actually hurts your cause, mr. secretary. elizabeth: what was your reaction when you heard all of that? he sits on the cabinet and security council. he's, you know, misleading congress there and has a black box role. congress has no oversight? when you heard all that, what was your take?

>> well, i knew it before i went in there to ask the questions, my questions followed congressman waltz's actually. and i was just, actually, i was a little shocked at the arrogance that he was portraying to us. it's like me saying, oh, i've got this farm, it's not really mine, it's my wife's, but she lets me live here which would be totally inaccurate. that's just trying to mislead the public. and to say anything other than flying with a jet airplane is bad for the environment, it's just total hypocrisy over what they've been saying for jeers -- years. the whole thing is, it's just hypocrites, that's all it is. they're not telling us the truth. go ahead. elizabeth: this is the same john kerry who demands no oversight, no questions about who is in his office where he's spending $16 million of taxpayer money a year. he's living a life of luxury, jets, hotels, limos. he keeps saying he buys carbon offsets for his polluting

flights. where are they? what's the proof he's done that? is chair comer going to look into that? >> absolutely. that's not even at the top of the list. he's not telling us about his employees, about his role in our, in our climate situation with these other countries. and the worst thing about it, liz, is he's going to china and he's going to be over there the negotiating with the people that are -- and he's saying and allowing them to say that they are a developing nation. so they get developing nation status. and then there again we are funding things in china. that's something that the american taxpayers ought to realize. we are funding the economy of a foreign nation that wants to destroy us. and this guy is the one helping spearhead that by hamstringing this country. elizabeth: u you know, we've talked to d.c. sources who have known john kerry. they feel like he's been angry he didn't win the presidency, and he's running a shadow presidency. final word. >> i think you better look for

him on the ballot. y'all keep talking about the governor of california, but this is the guy. he's cut in biden's mold. he's from the same cloth. he's from that same arrogant northeast background and that upbringing. you watch for him -- he's born on third base and thought he hit a triple, and the same with biden. so you watch for him, liz. elizabeth: congressman burchett, thanks for joining us this friday night. >> thank you, liz. hope you have a great weekend. elizabeth: new report, smoking gun e-mails allegedly show once and for all hunter biden broke foreign lobbying laws? we have fox news contributor his peek, a top biden agency chief a no-show at a hearing on massive government waste and fraud as biden wants to raise taxes. plus, former president trump weighs in on bidenomics. we've got everything and more on "the ooh evening edit," on all of that coming up. >> if people think that trump is going to be elected, you'll never have a recession. if people think i'm not, you'll

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elizabeth: well, look who's here, fox news contributor liz peek. liz, it's great to see you. let's fist get -- first get your reaction to this. we have a top biden official, the head of the small business administration, she was a no-show at a hearing, didn't show up, on why her agency, sba, along with other government agencies can't stop hundreds of billions of dollars stole then from pandemic aide -- stolen from pandemic aid. watch this. >> i want to reiterate how disappointed i am the administrator didn't show up today. this is a big deal. and i would assume she would have an army of her staff coming to defend her work. >> it is very disappointing that someone that we pay out of the federal taxpayers' dollars, now the u.s. treasury, cannot be

here to answer questions. elizabeth: hoe e the viewers the waste, fraud and abuse. biden wants to raise taxes, and this agency chief is a no-show, liz in your reaction? >> i mean, this is really part and parcel e of the disdain that this administration if shows congress all the time, liz. it's not just this particular agency. think about how the doj and the fbi have stonewalled congress on so many investigations. look, and how the epa and the fec are are basically ignoring the rule of law and congress and just pushing through an agenda that this white house wants. i mean, this particular issue is so fencive. we have had -- so offensive. we have had hundreds of billions of dollars lost to covid fraud. i mean, any other administration would be absolutely raked over the coals for not doing anything about it and not showing up to defend it. but it's indefensible. these are our taxpayer dollars that have basically gone up in

smoke because there's been absolutely no effort to rein it in. it's really unconscionable. elizabeth: former president trump spoke to maria bartiromo on bidenomics. here's a preview of what you'll see on the fox news show this sunday. watch this. >> okay, so, number one, if we have -- if there's even a thought that trump is getting elected, you will never have a recession because people will start investing money, you know, before the fact. and right now i'm leading biden by a lot. but what i would do is very simple. okay, you get interest rates down. to do that, we have to get rid of the inflation. you can look back 200 # years ago what it's done to other countries. germany -- maria: it is coming -- >> it's already gone up 40% if you add it all up. now it's coming down from a very bad base. and what they're doing is they're putting the interest rates at a point nobody can borrow. so you may have somewhat of a resession. if people think that trump is going to be reelected, you'll

verve -- never have a recession. if people think that i'm not, you're going to have a depression. elizabeth: what do you think, liz? >> well, i would say this, consumer sentiment under donald trump was always at a very high level even during covid. it was the most amazing thing. under joe biden we have seen basically consumer sentiment in the basement, liz. and it is interesting to me, i think part of it is because the biden administration -- i define bide goings as big spending, big government and big labor, all of which are basically behind and pushing higher inflation, not lower inflation. and i think people get that. families now have been charged basically $5,000 per family in increased regulatory burdens. that's the sum expense of all the rules and regulations being prom all gated by this administration. under trump it went down 2,000. people feel that difference. they understand that this is a meddling administration.

and it is not helping people get ahead, not helping businesses get ahead. i mean, it's really -- i think trump is obviously exaggerating, i think, but there's a kernel of tooth in that which i would agree with -- of truth in that. elizabeth: optimism. >> yes. elizabeth: optimism, prosperity. president biden is trying to take credit for inflation coming down after biden and his officials blamed inflation on forces around the globe, that it was global. it was putin's price hike. now you have the san francisco fed president mary daly and cleveland fed president loretta mester saying inflation's too high, the white house cannot take a victory happen. they didn't -- officials, other people are saying nothing they did brought inflation down. it's the, the inflation keeps rising off an ever higher base. so when you see all these reactions coming in, what is your take on all of that? >> well, i think that's right. i mean, inflation has come down, and thank heavens a because right now prices are about 16%

higher than they were when biden was elected. but, of course, it has been because energy prices around the world came down. china is in a very slow growth mode, etc. it has nothing to do with biden. in fact, biden's pushing inflation through continuing to spend, $39 billion on consumer loans -- i mean, student loans. honestly, can't it stop? doesn't he get it? he is fighting the fed. elizabeth: got it. liz peek, thank you so much. come back soon. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: we're going to get you updated on this: new warnings about the breakthrough alzheimer's drug la keep by, exactly who it may not work for. also daily caller reporting new smoking gun request e-mails show hunter biden allegedly did break foreign lobbying laws? we've got that on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪ the best advice i ever got was to invest with vanguard for my retirement.

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elizabeth: well, look who's here from oversight, congressman pat fallon. congressman, so the daily caller says it's got e-mails that indicate hunter biden and his business associates allegedly broke foreign lobbying laws, that they tried to get the founder ecoof burisma -- founder of burisma a u.s. visa right after hunter was hired to sit on the burisma board. he was being investigated by ukrainian authorities for corruption. >> well, liz, thanks for having me on. it's not only that, they wanted to get him a visa so he could enter the country for a board meeting in washington d.c. but also it specifically lays out in the e-mails that they would like to get, essentially, the ukrainian government and the prosecutor off burisma's back which is precisely what ended up happening. that's what joe biden did. why would joe biden take such an interest in a foreign energy company in ukraine? oh, that's right, his son happened to be paid $50,000 a month and allegedly $5 million a

lump sum to him and his son. that's maybe why he took an interest in it. elizabeth: isn't the burisma founder e allege allegedly the person that was talked about by that fbi informant, the foreign national involved in that leggey scheme? this is the same burisma founder that they were trying to get a visa for apparently? >> liz, that's exactly the person. we have the fbi credible and reliable informant having a private conversation, actually two, with the oligarch that runs burisma. and this is the exact one that they're referring to in these e-mails. i mean, i've got the e-mails right here, and it says specifically they are looking to get him off the hook and get the prosecutor off his back. and that's what joe biden delivered with withholding a billion dollars in aid until that prosecutor was fired. elizabeth: the obama white house, biden officials repeatedly bring up, you know, threatening people with breaking foreign lobbying laws, with f

ark ra violations. remember, they did that with general michael flynn. how come hunter biden hasn't had those allegations brought against him? >> that's precisely what these e-mails prove, that he was acting as a foreign agent, and he wasn't registered at such -- as such. elizabeth: so when you see all of these e-mails, again, these are allegations. the bribery allegations too. when you put everything together, you've joined government. now you're here where you are at. what do you think of joe biden right now? >> i think that they're absolutely -- there absolutely was corruption. i think this is the largest will political scandal in american history. and as you just pointed out, we have whistle blowers, bank records, e-mails, hunter's laptop. pick picture them like little pieces of a jigsaw puzzle except they all fit perfectly together. once you put it together, you get a clear picture. elizabeth: msnbc host mika by

zinn sky has been saying that the conservative media's only focusing on hunter biden. msnbc's own parent company, nbc, has repeatedly horse reported on it. is so has cbs. so has abc. so is msnbc's own network, nbc, wrong to cover it? so no one's supposed to cover it? just be okay with everything that's going on? >> she's just an add advocate and, quite frankly, a hack. and they're just really a propaganda arm of the democratic party and biden apologist withs. what journalism is, is what you do. you hold all of us to account. and we should. elizabeth: that's nice. i wasn't fishing for compliments, but i appreciate you and thank you for that. we have senate probes, we've got 150 # reports banks filed or treasury the president on suspicious activity in the biden family deals overseas. they were working with foreign officials themselves accused of corruption, even bribery. isn't that a red flag? >> oh, there's been more than

one red flag, there's been scores of red flags. and that's why when i read the 1023 a few weekses back, my heart sank because this, to me, was really well above a preponderance of the evidence bordering on, you know, satisfying a reasonable doubt threshold that joe biden took a naked bribe, and his son is also corrupt. it's a biden family syndicate, quite frankly, and they need to be held to account. meth breath so is oversight going to do hearings on that fbi form? >> i believe so. we're going to have a big hearing on wednesday because we have with two whistleblowers, one that's been announced publicly and one that hasn't, who's going to shed a lot more right light into the irs s and what they did or more so didn't do in the biden investigation. elizabeth: got it. congressman fall op, thanks for joining us. okay, we're breaking out new warnings about the breakthrough

alzheimer's drug he kempe. there's concerns it may not work for some alzheimer 's patients. let's check in with dagen and guy benson, filling in for sean. dagen: thank you so much, e-mac. charlie hurt is coming up on all the money rolling into the gop candidates. also who does he compare to kamala harris? among those candidates. congressman cory mills on what john kerry is actually up to with our money and our prosperity. guy: then our panel, david asman, john carney, all that and more coming up at six eastern. we'll sedouge you soon. ♪ so you only pay for what you need. ♪ ♪ ♪ bye, uncle limu. ♪

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elizabeth: let's welcome to the show fox news political analyst gianno caldwell. it's great to see you. we are still so upset over the murder of your brother in chicago that happened, you know, a little while back. we're upset about it, you know? we want your reaction to this. last night we had on maine shah marijuana -- misha is mainer. what do you think of this? >> well, i think that she made the right decision, she considered it a moral decision, and i can appreciate her courage because it takes a lot of

courage especially when you're in a deep can blue district knowing that she will not be reelect after switching parties. i think she should probably run for statewide office and has a very bright future, but she's raised some very important issues. one, on education. she mentioned multiple times how, and some places within the state of georgia especially in the black community specifically, how they have a 3% rate of individuals or students who are actually succeeding, if i recall correctly. she's mentioned crime as another issue which is one that's very deeply important to me, deeply important to my family. and generally speaking, when we think about the african-american community voting for democrats, especially at the presidential level, over 90% of the time and getting little to nothing out of it and mostly nothing out of it, i think it is time for a lot of african-americans to begin to think very differently about the party which they support. specifically around the party, the democratic party who enjoys their support in order to win a

presidential election. you could not have a democratic candidate win the presidential primary without the black community's support. so there needs to be a turn-around. whether they leave the democratic party and become independent or they become republican, there needs to be something that happens -- elizabeth: so from where you sit, and you're out there, you talk to a lot of americans, right? >> yes. elizabeth: she's got a powerful message. she's saying the focus in the democrat party has been that macro politics matters. but she's saying the way they're doing it is sensationalism meant to alarm and and scare people from the truth. and she's saying it's the micro kitchen table topics that democrat leaders fail to address that impact our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. that's a direct quote. she's saying republicans are more focused on those kitchen table issues. when you talk to black people out there which is a big democrat base, what do you hear? >> well, i mean, i take you back to what donald trump said in 2016 when he said, you know,

your schools aren't performing well. he said your schools are no good, if i'm being very specific. what do you have to lose by giving trump a chance? now, you could vote for trump or you can vote for whoever you want, but the truth of the matter is you have failing schools. your communities aren't prospering. maybe you should give another party a chance versus the party you've given 50 years of your vote who have taken it for granted, who will come up with things about slavery and reparations knowing that they will never pass reparations in any way, shape or form. they're going to do a study just to get you to ca pitch. late into voting for them. so as i think about as a person who's been involved in the black community my entire life, group on the south side of chicago in an extremely poor community, i know for a fact that for me specifically that the republican party and the conservative movement was for me because it offered prosperity. and democrats aren't offering prosperity. they're offering dependence, they're offering welfare,

they're a offering things which traps people within the place where they are versus self-sufficiency. elizabeth: interesting. what a powerful message. gianno caldwell, you and your family, you've been on our minds, and is you will remain on our minds given what happened with your brother. >> thank you so much. elizabeth: it's an outrageous disgrace. we're still very upset about it. come back soon, gianno. have a good weekend. >> thank you. you as well. elizabeth: dr. marty makary is going to break down these warnings about the new breakthrough alzheimer's drug leqembi, warnings that it may not work for a certain group of people. we're going to explaining -- explain it next on "the evening edit." ♪

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we need an expert guy is doctor marty makary, thanks for joining us. we want to talk about questions. >> it slows the progression of alzheimer's by 25%. we didn't know and what we learned is that benefit is largely in men, slowing up progression was 12% in women and 42% in men and that's important because two thirds of people with alzheimer's are women and we don't know why. there's a couple reasons why

they be possibly more common for men to have a benefit from the truck. one is the study was too small and we don't know and it's an error in the analysis and the other is some aspect of hormone regulation because of previous suggestions that formal therapy can prevent progression or development of alzheimer's so that's interesting though they may be in interaction where the drug is different for men than women. >> so for women, the hormonal impact on the effectiveness, there's a suggestion that may be one reason but we still don't know why, right? >> there's maybe some interaction between formal regulation and the way the drug works in the reason this is important is if you are a woman with early alzheimer's or pre-alzheimer's with the group

with the fda is now covering the drug, you've got to balance a possible 12% reduction in the slowing, a small benefit with 13% risk of brain swelling and 19% risk of double that in the placebo group. these are potentially risks and why there's black box warning that can be severe life-threatening events. things to consider, this is more information we didn't have. >> the fda red flag any concerns when they announced this week? >> not on the male versus female, they did on the life-threatening complications but it's important how you balance this. the information was there, it's not as if this was suddenly available yesterday. the new unit journal study was

publish almost a year ago so the information was there and may suggest we are not getting information. >> so i just want to understand, the drug slows cognitive decline found overall for women 12%, right? it slows cognitive the that by men through percent and the average is 23% overall. >> that's exactly right. the interesting thing is we are not talking about other things that can cause alzheimer's. we will spend billions on a drug now and take risks on a drug with 12% reduction in decline in women and we will not talk about the role of food and sleep and other factors believed to play into causing alzheimer's, it says about the way you study drugs and disease in america. >> we want to know all the

drugs, he said 26500 a year for the drug. >> medicare will pay 80% for your on the hook for 7000 a year and for the benefit of that small magnitude and possible risks, that's a factor. all of those things are factors. >> thanks for breaking it down, we will stay on this. have a good weekend. you can send your e-mails of fox.com and we love reading them and watch monday night, house ways and means chair jason and claudia tenney and much more. i'm elizabeth macdonald, hope you have a great weekend. we are covering all of the news that matters to you we think you should know about and everything happening in washington d.c. when it comes to your wallet, kitchen table issues and in the 2024 race, it's a up in the air. dagen and guy, take it awa