larry: how about stop kowtowing to china, just stop it, for heaven sakes. how about make america great again again? how about that one? and finally, how about liz macdonald? elizabeth: how about that, larry? thank you so much. great show, larry. we're staying on these headlines, the white house keeps stepping on rakes. biden's red flag on twitter for factual errors on the economy, the white house caught altering a transcript to wipe out another

blunder by vice president harris. we have a majority of polls, voters don't believe this white house. and trump hammers biden on policies and the economy. plus, a newly-revealed hunter biden e-mail escalates a major controversy. he did break foreign lobbying laws, that's the allegation. picking up on toyota's solution to fix biden's electric car mess, john kerry flies again overseas. and labor strikes pile up under biden, a major voting bloc. headaches for the white house. and trump says he would get rid of weak-on-crime prosecutors and the out of control administrative state, but the media's in an uproar over that. i'm liz macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: let's welcome back to the show from house financial services, congressman bill

huizenga, and former treasury official michael faulkender. let's have fun. let's watch former president trump hammer biden this weekend on policies. watch this. >> i will quickly stop joe biden's inflation nightmare, worst inflation. in many years. they really don't know how many, they say 52, but i think it's much higher than that. if people think trump is going to be elected, you'll never have a recession. if people think i'm not, you'll have more than recession, you're going to have a depression. it's called safety. it's called a border. it's called a strong military. it's called low taxes and low interest rates. >> hello, everybody, it's my -- >> i will impose a border tariff on all foreign-made goods, and i will also pass what we'll call the trump reciprocal trade act. if china's charging us 100% for something, we will charge them 100% for something. elizabeth: congressman huizenga, you see what happened, right in you don't see trump complaining

the election was stolen, you don't see him talking about that. he's talking hard core on policies, congressman. your take. >> yeah. and he needs to, in my opinion. that's how he is going to make sure that those voters who weren't sure last time are very sure this time, because their pocketbooks are telling them they need to be with donald trump. and i think his rhetoric and others surrounding him will just reinforce that. elizabeth: you know, michael, when you saw this, what did you think? cnn already reporting top democrats and top donors looking to replace biden in 2024, and now twitter is red flagging biden. he's making factual errors on twitter. he tried to claim everything is okay, but since biden took office real wages down about 3-5%, prices up more than 16. and, you know, voters, michael, are not believing biden on the economy. the media now is saying it's hard for biden to convince voters to reelect him. people having trouble paying their bills.

>> that's right, liz, because the american people remember what economy they had under president trump. versus what they've gotten urn joe biden. with president trump we saw the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, we saw inflation below 2%, we saw a $6,000 increase in household income, we saw the lowest poverty rates on record: the american people remember that as to opposed to joe biden where american workers are getting left behind. and we have a government top-down approach to telling you what car you can drive, what kind of stove you can use and where you're going to work with. so under that kind of top-down approach, the american people see how much worse off they are compared to what they had under the previous administration. elizabeth: to what michael just said, congressman, they threw trillions of dollars of hot money into a locked-up economy, and now the fed is expected to again raise rates at least twice. both the san francisco and the chicago fed if say government spending is causing inflation, but, you know, biden is ignoring

economic reality. he wants billions of dollars in even more spending. this is a vicious cycle. inflation rises, companies raise prices, fed raises rates, u.s. has to raise taxes to pay its growing debt. >> yeah, you're absolutely right, liz. and it's not just this administration. there still are some debt deniers around this town and on capitol hill both in the house and in the senate. and these are folks who just clearly don't understand economics, and their thought is, well, as long as we can just continue to pay off the interest on this, we'll be fine. well, the simple fact is now that interest rates are rising to their norms, their historic norms -- think -- they had been artificially low, we all know that over the last number of years. they're returning to those norms, and now interest on that $32.5 trillion in debt is now rivalling what we are spending for the defense department and for all of our domestic projects. and guess what? we are not going to have enough

money for defense or for those domestic projects if we don't get our arms around this debt and if deficit situation. and that -- and spending more money is the exact opposite thing what we need to do. elizabeth: yeah. the post gave biden, you know, a bottomless pinocchio claiming he cut the deficit, he didn't. pandemic spending expired. michael, the white house blames historic inflation on the world, that it's happening overseas, it's putin's price hikes, we can't do anything about it. now they're taking credit for it. that makes no sense. >> putin's price hike, putin's price hike -- putin's price hike. >> what we are saying is that when you talk about inflation, it is a global thing, and it is not just about the united states. this is something that everyone is feeling because of coming out of the once this a lifetime pandemic. the inflation reduction act, which is going to lower costs for americans as it relates to health care, as it relates to making sure prescription drugs are lored for our seniors --

lowered for our senior, as it relates to investment in dealing with our climate crisis which is all incredibly important. elizabeth: hold your horses on that one. moody's analytics, they already found the inflation reduction act would lower inflation by a third of a point. by 2031. they're spiking the football over a bill that doesn't cut inflation until eight years from flow and adds to the deficit ano the deficit and likely won't, michael. >> that's right. the reason "the washington post" gave joe biden a bottomless by pinocchio, it's so easy to refute the data. inflation spiked in march of 2021. that was the month that they passed the plan to give stimulus money as part of the pandemic, and that's when inflation started its creep up to 9%. putin did not invade ukraine until the following february. so you had ten months of accumulated inflation before the ukraine war even started.

and we also i saw that the price hikes here in the united states started 6-8 months prior to when they a started in europe. so it's very easy to go look at the data and see that the inflation started here earlier, and it was worse here, and it had nothing to do with putin's invasion of ukraine. with regard to all of the spending that the biden administration is looking to do, as the congressman said, this is the first administration that we've ever seen that's running $1.5 trillion deficits every year of their 10-year budget submission. elizabeth: yeah, that's right. >> they actually have no plan to get the budget under control. elizabeth: congressman, michael, thank you, gentlemen, for great analysis. good to see you. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: let's bring in the chairman of house ways and means, congressman jason smith. congressman, can you please tell us why you called on attorney general merrick garland to give the judge on hunter biden's plea deal on tax evasion, it's being called a sweetheart deal, thics

rs whistleblower's testimony on doj officials allegedly obstructing probes into hunter biden, why do you want him to see this? >> liz, it's great to be with you. it is super important that the judge that's looking at this plea agreement has all the information at their fingerer tips. we have over a 15 hours of testimony from two different irs whistleblowers that came to the ways and means committee, and there's crucial information in there that shows that the irs investigators, while they were investigating hunter biden's tax dealings, they saw where the justice department delayed the prosecution that led to an instance where the statute of limitations expired in in the year 2014 and 2015, and in those years or years that there should have been felony charges. and then there's areas where they divulged information to hunter biden's lawyers and also concerns of where they denied. these are things that should

come for the interest of the country for this judge to see all the information. and i hope that attorney general garland will do the right thing and and make sure that's submitted into the record. elizabeth: so the irs whistleblowers are going to be testifying on wednesday. you're going to be looking for felonies and crimes here? >> the irs whistleblowers will be testifying on wednesday. in their sworn testimony that we've already are had and their depositions, they highlighted what they believe were various federal tax crimes that hunter biden should have been charged with from the year 204-2019 -- 2014-2019, ask and i am sure at the hearing on wednesday they will highlight what they highlighted within our testimony. elizabeth: got it. now we've got more evidence hunter biden allegedly broke foreign lobbying laws. he didn't register as a foreign agent. let's break it down for the viewer. breitbart news claims it's got e-mails showing hunter biden's business associates at burisma -- that's the ukrainian

energy company that paid hunter nearly a million dollars a year to sit on its board -- that company, this associate e-mailed hunter a list of deliverables he wanted and expected hunter to complete including getting burisma to meet with, quote, high ranking u.s. officials and to publicly support the founder of burisma in the media who was under corruption probes. so why wasn't hunter biden charged with foreign lobbying violations? >> liz, this is just another example of where that apparently hunter biden's not being treated like every other american. the average american, if they had committed these crimes, they would be facing jail time. for example, the 2014 tack year that i was talking about earlies talking about earlier, in that year alone the irs whistleblower showed where hunter biden did not pay taxes or report more than $400,000 of income that he received from burisma. burisma, that you just

mentioned. elizabeth: so this is all tied together. i mean, those e-mails that we just talk about came just a month before vice president joe biden vicinity ised ukraine where he -- vicinity ised ukraine where he demand canned the firing of the prosecutor. democrats say that prosecutor was corrupt and should be fired, but the fact that hunter biden sent e-mails back allegedly saying, yes, i will deliver on this, doesn't that give you pause? >> it gives us a lot of pause. this is exactly why we need this information to go to the judge, this is why we need the department of justice, the irs and the secret service to come before congress. we requested more than a dozen of them because we need additional information. because the facts are not lining up. with we are following the facts in the house ways and means committee, the judiciary committee and the oversight committee, but it's not smelling good, liz. elizabeth: and this links to the biden bribery allegations, right? >> there's a lot of concerns because as that whatsapp message that we laid out that came from

the whistleblower that was presented where it said that hunter biden was seated next to his father and he sent toyota chinese official -- to a chinese business official and said that he was going to wait for his response seated right next to his father, it just sounds awful. elizabeth: yeah. we have to find out if any of this is actual and true. we're going to try to authenticate it. chairman smith, we'll be following all of this news. it's good to have you back on. tonight we have congressman brian mast, former trump special assistant mark rotter -- marc lotter, and from defending education, erica sandy. the biden 2024 labor strikes piling up, plus an historic heat wave blamed on climate change but john kerry again flies overseas. he's flown to half the world in just ten years. and trump is winning praise, he's getting praise for picking up on toyota's solution to fix biden's electric car mess. and the white house caught altering a transcript to protect

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elizabeth: okay, congressman brian mast joins us now. it's good to see you again, congressman. the white house caught trying to clean up the transcripts for vice president kamala harris' latest gaffe, saying the u.s. must, quote, reduce the population to fight climate change. watch this. >> when we invest in clean energy and electric vehicles and reduce population, more of our children can breathe clean air and drink clean water. [applause] elizabeth: show the white house crossing out the word population and replacing it with pollution. social media not buying this. they went all out on this, congressman, seeing this attempt to cover it up on the internet. >> they shouldn't buy it because the administration, the democratic party specifically, they've been wanting to be gate keepers for the human population for at least a decade if not longer than that, we can say.

so it's very plausible that that's exactly what kamala harris met. -- meant. elizabeth: it's pretty dangerous if they meant that. >> yeah. elizabeth: it's pretty dangerous if they meant it. the white house and democrats, you know, also this, they're pointing to the heat wave hitting the u.s. as a need to cut bag on pollution, everybody gets that. -- cut back on pollution. why is john kerry flying again this week to china? he's flown on polluting jets nearly half the world in just the last ten year years. he can't sit still. he flies 2-3 times a month, and congress can't find out who was in his office? what's going on? you sent a foia request on this to the white house. >> foia request, we asked him about a it in a hearing, kerry's office doesn't want to tell people who he hired, who he's meeting with, when he's going, when he's -- where with he's going, when he's doing it. the american taxpayer pays for him to gallivant around the

globe but doesn't get to know what he's doing supposedly on their behalf, can that's e the major problem p. elizabeth: yeah. and is he getting china to cut their emissions? the u.s. is doing all it can, and china and india are swamping what the u.s. is doing in cutting carbon emissions. they're the worst polluters e in the world. >> we know that he's not getting this. secretary kerry would probably be forthright in even telling you that he's not going to get them to cut their emissions, that they're going to separate their policy on uighurs and slave labor from solar panels and things like that. he knows that china's not going to change. elizabeth: yeah. now critics call the electric car mess, right, building a field of dreams economy and expecting people to buy the cars. they're not. the electric cars, congressman, it's now being called the yugo of the 21st century. axios and cox automotive reporting electric cars are piling up on dealer lots. they can't be sold, people don't

want them. you're talking ford, g america, hyundai, toyota, so is voces -- volkswagen. we want your reaction to how trump would fix the electric car problem. he's saying toyota's right. steppingstone, hybrid approach. people want both gas and electric cars. they want to drive 70 miles to the gallon are with the hybrid cars. watch this. >> the electric car will destroy the automobile industry in the united states. and you know what? i have nothing against the electric car. but you have to have combustion engines also. you have to have hybrids. you have to have everything. and if how do you do an electric car when places like california have blackouts all over the place? on top of that, we're going to add to our grid system millions and millions of cars? a lot of people don't want an electric car, and some people do, expect ones that do should be able to buy it, and the ones that don't should be able to buy what they want to be whether it's a hybrid or something else. elizabeth: we've got a dozen

u.s. states and california ask and new york joining dozens of countries, they want to ban the sale of new gas cars. >> president trump is spot on in this. government, washington, d.c. is trying to create a demand signal that doesn't exist. this would fit right in line, imagine if washington, d.c. said this: all grocery stores, the government wants 70% of the population to be vegan by 2030. now, the population doesn't really want that, but the government's basically telling them, hey, or we need you to create products, put things on the shelf that can support 70 of the population being see began by 2030, you grocery stores need to do that. it's the same thing they're doing to the auto industry. they're making something happen that the people don't actually want. elizabeth: congressman brian mast, come back soon. it's good to see you. >> all the best with. elizabeth: more on trump on policies. he says he would get rid of weak on crime prosecutors, and the u.s. administrative state has the media in an uproar.

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elizabeth: okay, biden 2024 faces new problems. major headaches with a big democrat voting bloc, labor unions. edward lawrence live at the white house with the story. edward. >> reporter: yeah, the president even saying he's the most pro-union president in modern history, he believes. that as well as inflation could be pushing those unions to take a harder line with business owners. i mean, just look at the numbers here. the president has been in office 30 months, about two and a half years, and has seen 54 work stoppages. that matches four years of former president obama and just about four years of former president trump. now, steve forbes says that

we're seeing the results of inflation and people falling behind. >> we're going to get more of this. is and so the cure for it, as we discovered in the 1970s, was get pro-growth policies, stop the inflation, wages start to rise again naturally, and the labor strike goes down. >> so each of the unions that threatened to strike or went on strike received big pay increases. rail bruin ons are a good example -- rail unions, a 24% wage increase. the next big one on the docket, ups. union representing ups says -- representing ups workers says president biden needs to stay away from this. here's the white house. >> we'll continue to be in touch with both parties constructively, support any efforts to reach a solution. but, again, we are confident that both sides are going to come to an agreement. can so -- and continue to have a constructive presence as we continue to stay in touch. so that's our role that we see

playing moving forward. >> reporter: as these unions get big pay increases in their new contracts, we know that's passed on to the customers in the goods and services that they offer. and that wage, as you know, liz, is stickier and harder to get rid of when you talk about wage inflation. e. elizabeth: what a story. joining us now from parents deferchedding education, erica san de. it's great to see you. >> good to see you. elizabeth: the parental rights group moms for liberty turning into a political juggernaut. they're now in nearly four dozen states. we've got far-left media attacking them. the nation describes moms for liberty as hateful, fascist bigots, and the group was accused of getting book bans in school libraries for books like the scarlet letter and paradise lost, that they're classics being banned. what do you think? >> i think that this is predictable because for so long poornts have sort of sat on the

sidelines, and and so -- parents have sort of sat on the sidelines so school boards were not used to scrutiny. what has happened is that with the combination of covid where parents were upset that their children were locked out of schools, their faces were covered with masks and as school was sort of beamed into their kitchens and living rooms over the computer, they realized that much of what was happening in the schools was ideological in nature, it sounded like activism, it sounded like there was no longer a free exchange of ideas. they felt that topics that were inappropriate for young children, you know, had become a focus, and they're speak out. speaking out. and it doesn't surprise me that people are smearing them and calling them terrible names because they don't want to admit that this is a very sort of organic uprising of parents from all -- elizabeth: but what about the book bans though? >> nobody's banning books. what has happened is that you i and i when we hear ban, we think

that that would mean you didn't have access to it. but what these groups are doing is redefining the word. so so what they're saying is that if a book is in the k-5 section of the library and it gets moved to the middle school section, they're calling that a ban. what they started doing is they've started using the word ban as a synonym for restriction are. and we can all agree that the same books that belong in a high school library are very likely inappropriate for an elementary -- elizabeth: yeah. you don't want a third grader reading the scarlet letter or paradise lost, they wouldn't understand it. this is about age-appropriate books, but, erica, sit tight. what their not talking about is sexualized content for a 7 or 8-year-old. watch how misleading msnbc is on that, leaving that part of the story out and what you just explained. it's not book bans, they're moving content to high school-appropriate, you know, students. watch this. >> because as benign as moms for liberty may sound, its agenda is

unmistakably extreme. for instance, you may not know that moms for liberty has been helping to lead the movement in pulling books from the library shelves including classics like the bluest eye, great book. the kite runner, e amazing book. and mouse, as well as other books that deal with race, diversity and sexuality. the group has turned school board meetings into unruly shouting matches. elizabeth: this is misleading america. explain it, why, why are they misleading? there's no mention here of sexualized books for 7 or 8-year-olds, element ily kids who shouldn't read it. that's what msnbc routinely leaves out. go ahead, and again, they're moving books to high schoolers. take it on. >> jen psaki needs to understand that one of the reasons that moms for liberty and parent groups like ours have caught fire is because how sick everyone is of people like her because she's dishonest, she's condescending, and she never

seems to have any respect for a difference of opinion. she is not telling the truth. the most challenged book right now is called gender queer. it is a graphic novel in two senses of the word. number one, it's like a comic book, it's all a illustrations and with thought bubbles that have words. that book is very, very sexually explicit, so much so that when i discussed it on tv and radio, i've been told that i can't actually say what is in the illustrations. elizabeth: yeah, got it. okay. >> so for her to pretend that we're talking about classics the that suddenly a group of parents want to get out of the schools is absurd, it's dishonest, and i think that people are waking up to the fact that they're lying about it. elizabeth: you know, education week is reporting no one's signing up for the teacherses union community outreach group for parents. of they expected more than 6,000 to be signed up, only 150 signed up. that's an average 3 parents per state. watch former president trump and

what's going on in schools. >> after 50 years of leftist domination of the universities, i will take bold action to reclaim our colleges from the communist left. [cheers and applause] anti-american radicals will no longer be given a free hand to dominate our institutions of hirer education. we are going to -- higher education. we are going to choke off the money to school that aid the marxist assault on our american heritage and on western civilization itself. [applause] the days of subsidizing communist indoctrination in our colleges will soon be over. the markist diversity, equity and inclusion bure -- bureaucracies that are sticking you with crushing debt. [applause] elizabeth: you got ten seconds. your take. >> i mean, much of what he's saying there is correct. it is the first time in a long time that people have been fighting back and saying you're not going to brain warren our children -- brainwash our children our money. elizabeth: got it.

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elizabeth: okay, netflix kicks off media earnings season is wednesday. hollywood, though, practically shut down. a actors and writers unions in a long and bitter work stoppage, strikes. the real problem, more viewers are tuning out. they don't like what hollywood is selling. let's get to kelly o'grady with the story. >> reporter: it's great to see you, liz. and, that's right, there's a lot of concern in the industry that this could go on for a while. you've got both the writers and the actors ooh' guilds on strike, so there's no one to write the scripts and no one to perform them. so consequently, a lot of that

content is going to be delayed at the theaters. maybe your favorite tv show could be delayed as a well. and without that endless pipeline of content, that means the streamers lose their value proposition. so barry diller is predicting if a deal isn't reached by christmas, it will have devastating effects. >> you're going to see subscriptions get pulled, which is going to reduce the revenue of all these movie companies, television companies. the result of which is that there will be no programs, and at just the time strike is settled that you want to gear back up, there won't be enough money. >> reporter: and it looks like a deal is pretty far off. a big sticking point in these geerkses -- negotiations is artificial intelligence. on the writers' side, there's the fear that a bot could write a tv show or a script in little to no time, so the writers are demanding that artificial intelligence can't be used to write an original script or rewrite one. on the acting front, there's a

big focus on seeking protections around replicating an actor's digital likeness or their voice. the actors' union is arguing studios are trying to pay a background actor for one day of work and use their likeness forever. studios say that their proposal is ground breaking and that each future use would have to be negotiated so, liz, we're really at an inflection point here. this is going to be a signal to other industries, and what happens here will likely have lasting implications for the job market. back to you. elizabeth: interesting story, kelly. thank you so much. let's bring in former special assistant to former president trump, marc lotter. your reaction to what's going on in hollywood. >> who cares? you know? i would rather focus my attention on people who actually do something for a living and make history as opposed to people who pretend lie they -- like they did something. elizabeth: hasn't america already said stop glorifying violence, stop profiting off of violence? >> yeah. i mean, there's obviously -- i think one of the big disconnects

here is hollywood is not producing material that the american people want, and then when you look at something like the sound of freedom, which is actually resonating, you've got the liberals and the mainstream media trying to disrespect it as being some conspiracy theory. sex trafficking is real. it's wrong. shouldn't be something that's partisan or left and right. we should want to expose it and stamp it out. elizabeth: yeah. you know, your point's well taken about, you know where, hollywood actors and celebrities talking geopolitics when people are in the real world fighting the fight to fix issues, and they get hammered for that like you just pointed out with the movie about child sex trafficking. let's listen to former president trump. he is hammering biden on policies. trump is saying he will go after the doj to stop weak on crime prosecutors nationwide. watch this. >> i will direct a completely overhauled doj to investigate every radical district attorney and attorney general for their illegal, racist and reverse or

enforcement of the law. [applause] to combat the scourge of homelessness that is plaguing democrat-run cities, now we have the most unsafe water i think in the history of the world. no country would allow millions of people to just walk across -- we have no idea who they are. i will immediately term a nate every open borders policy of the biden administration. under biden other countries are emptying out their prisons, insane asylums, mental constitutions and dumping everyone including the most vicious terrorists in the world. elizabeth: what do you think, mark? >> well, i mean, the president's got it right. he had it right from 2016 on, and immigration is a big issue. it resonates. the american people don't like what they see happening at our southern border. 7 million people coming into our country unvetted, illegally and then sapping the resources that could be used to improve schools, make our communities safer, and they're being used to house these illegal migrants while they wait years for a court date they're never going

to show up for. elizabeth: well, how do you think the media's going to take trump's message here in. >> well, they'll call it racist but, you know, the fact of the matter is without a border, we're not a country. we have to be able to enforce our border. every other major industrialized country enforces its border. it's really tough to get into some of these countries, and yet here you can walk in illegally, possibly have a baby who would then become an american citizen and be here forever. elizabeth: got it. marc lotter, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: we're going to bring in washington examiner 's byron york. america is built on immigration, but even immigrants say do it legally. and also this story, trump says he will get rid of the u.s. administrative state. there's another reason why you shouldn't trust it, it's because of what dr. fauci is found to have admitted; china, yes, was waiting on frankenstein, manmade viruses, created them in labs after he repeatedly $ --

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elizabeth: this story e, dr. fauci finally admits the wuhan lab in china was creating manmade, frank frankenstein viruses in the laboratory after dr. fauci was accused of strenuously downplaying that. fox news senior congressional correspondent chad pergram has more. chad, good to see you. >> reporter: likewise, liz. fauci sent an e-mail february 2020 indicating that scientists in wuhan worked on gain of function research are. one e-mail says fauci believes scientists could have can encerted a mutation. lawmakers want the truth. >> i think there's plenty of

scientists that will tell you there was censorship because they put out their feelings about the lab leak theory, or things got censored on social media, etc., and it was called a conspiracy theory. there was clearly an attack on those that felt it was a lab leak. >> reporter: fauci says that covid likely involved in nature. wenstrup worries that the government tried to up press some narratives about the -- suppress some narratives. robert f. kennedy jr. will a appear at a hearing on pandemic censorship on thursday. kennedy remarked that he believes covid is ethnically targeted and that the virus was crafted to spare jews and the chinese. house speaker e ken mccarthy says rfk jr. will still testify. >> i disagree with everything he said. the hearing that we have this week is about censorship. i don't think censoring somebody, your first action to censor them probably plays into some of the problems we have. >> reporter: the hearing

addresses whether science has downplayed particular viewpoints about the pandemic. that includes a theory that covid came from a lab. liz? elizabeth: chad pergram, great reporting. it's good to see you. let's bring in to the show, he's a great writer, the washington examiner 's byron york. byron, your reaction there because you were on our show during the pandemic. we were talking about a coordinated effort in the upper ranks of government to create this narrative to say that covid-19 was with, came in naturally in order to protect the chinese government. dr. fauci admitted this in depositions for the missouri-louisiana lawsuit. he wanted to keep china cooperating. he's not a diplomat. america was misled during the pandemic. >> and we now have more evidence that that's exactly what happened. we're seeing some internal communications the from fauci at nih in which he made clear that he believe it was quite likely that the virus was created in the lab accidentally, on

purpose, somehow it was created in the lab. and i think it's a really good thing. we just heard from kevin mccarthy, and and we just heard from brad with went strum, i think it's -- brad went strum, i think it's a very good thing that republicans formed this new select subcommittee to investigate the pandemic. and it's chaired by representative wenstrup who is a doctor, and it's beyond time that we heard about some of this stuff. elizabeth: yeah. "the new york times" is reporting trump says if he gets reelected, he will scour through the intelligence agencies, the state department, all the bureaucracies to remove what he called, quote, the sick political class. but msnbc is in an uproar, reporting he wants to go authoritarian. "the new york times" says he's working on plans to limit the overreach of the u.s. administrative state and the federal agencies because now we just suffered through a pandemic that was possibly -- we don't know how it started, but it could have been manmade. and then you have, you know, they threw trillions of dollars

in hot money into a locked-up economy, and we have inflation at a 40-year high. it's coming down, yes, over the last 12 months. it's still stuck about, you know, 16.6% all in cumulativelien under this president. >> you know, a lot of conservatives for a long time have wanted to go after the administrative state or sometimes called the deep state or used to be called the permanent bureaucracy. and trump was particularly ineffective as president in dealing with the permanent bureaucracy. he seemed to think that if he just ea pointed a cabinet secretary, head of an agency, then that would kind of get the agency urn his control -- under his control. it doesn't work that way at all. there are very few political appointments in the agencies anyway, and and there is, indeed, a permanent bureaucracy. and in many cases in the trump administration, it tried to fuss trait the president's policies. -- frustrate. elizabeth: but trump saying he would fire a lot of people on this. >> well, listen, trump goes to

rallies and says i will be your retribution. that's a really bad way to phrase this. obviously, trump is under indictment right now in the justice department, he says he wants to get rid of all these people. elizabeth: byron, stick with us, you'll be right back. we'll be back in two, stay right there. ♪ ♪ you only pay for what you need. that's my boy. ♪ stay off the freeways! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪this is what love looks like♪ ♪this is what love looks like♪ ♪ ♪this is what love looks like♪

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byron, what are you expecting from the if irs whistleblowers testifying this wednesday in front of house oversight on doj officials alleging they obstructed probes into hunter biden? what do you expect? >> well, i expect we'll get a lot more exposure to some ideas that you and i have talked about and others have talked about, especially in introducing this whistleblower number two. the previously, up till now anonymous whistleblower. you had gary shapley who was one, he was the irs supervisor of the investigation of hunter biden. well, this new whistleblower was the lead agent. he was the one with the most hands-on, you know, granular knowledge of the investigation. and we really are, really -- it'll be really, really interesting the hear from him. elizabeth: do you think they'll name names of who was obstructing? >> oh, well, you know, we've already seen a lot. if you've listened to senator grassley in the nat -- in the senate, he has been really pointing out people in the u.s.

attorney, weiss', staff that he believes obstructed this investigation. so, yeah, i think we're going to see, we're going to hear names. matter of fact, one thing i think that's going to be really, really interesting in this hearing is to watch what democrats do. are they going to be in full attack dog mode trying to destroy the witnesses, or are they just going to kind of lay low and hope it ends soon? it'll be very interesting to judge how credible they view this information -- elizabeth: but these are career irs veteran agents who have worked on major, you know, tax issues and tax crimes as well. >> yeah. elizabeth: they're not slouches. >> not at all. and, first of all, you know, we have triplets of depositions -- transcripts of depositions that both of them gave to republican and democratic members of the committee. and the information has been very credible. and so far we haven't seen

anything that really didn't stand up to scrutiny. we do have this huge conflict over whether david weiss, the u.s. attorney, was forbidden from indicting hunter biden in the district of columbia or not. that's the huge, huge conflict. elizabeth: but, you know, it's also they were for whistleblowers under trump, but retaliation against, that's happening against whistleblowers now. byron york, it's great to see you. i'm liz mac don, thanks for watching "the evening edit" on fox business. tomorrow night we're going to have a jam-pack show, now it is time for "the bottom line." hi, dagen and sean. good to see you with. dagen: hey, e-a mac. thank you. ♪ dagen: good evening, i'm dagen mcdowell. sean: and i'm sean duffy, welcome to "the bottom line."