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joe biden. biden doj appointees obstructed the criminal probe into hunter biden, covered up evidence, blocked multiple felony charges, search warrants, even the mention of joe biden's name. and marjorie taylor greene fires it up, alleging hunter biden violated the mann act, bringing prostitutes across state lines. plus, more evidence joe biden met with hunter biden's business partners despite the president's repeated denials. and biden's scary new bid to stop inflation destroying his polls, get dozens of state a.g.s, the doj, the usda, the ftc, even hud to go after grocery stores and the meat industry. and a renewed push in the nat to ban congress -- in the senate to ban congress stock trading again puts in focus the timing of trades by nancy pelosi's trades around legislation. i'm elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now.

♪ ♪ elizabeth: staying on the story, veteran irs agents still testifying. two whistleblowers light up congress testifying about political abuses of power inside the doj and the fbi to protect joe biden, a case so serious and egregious it required search warrants. but the whistleblowers say doj officials blocked them and busted down multiple felonies into misdemeanors for hunter biden. edward lawrence has the update, and he's live at the white house with the story. >> reporter: yeah, liz, the irs at the center of this growing debate about weaponizing agencies to protect the president as well as go after opponents. now, the second irs whistleblower now identified and testifying, as you said, still as we speak is a 13-year veteran who is a democrat. he came forward to bring back fairness, he says, in informations -- investigations. >> some instances in which

assigned prosecutors did not appear to follow the normal investigative process, slow-walked the investigation and put in place unnecessary approvals and roadblocks from effectively and efficiently investigating the case. a number of times we were not able to follow the facts. >> reporter: the whistleblower saying the investigation was directed away from the president, and charges moved off of felonies on purpose. democrats made excuses for hunter biden. listen to this. >> the son of of the sitting president of the united states lost his brother and then lost his way badly back in 2015. as too many families around the country know, drug addiction is a dark and powerful affliction. and like other addicts, hunter biden made foolish and criminal choices including failing to pay his taxes and owning a firearm in violation of federal law. >> reporter: the white house staying away from this hearing altogether today. listen. >> the president respects the

rule of law, he respects the independence of the department of justice as it relates to their conduct in investigates. -- investigations. that that's something we say over and over from here. >> reporter: but republicans say the irs has a history of one-sidedness. you remember that only former president donald trump's tax the returns were leaked in 2016. no one was ever punished. the irs also showing up at journalist matt tiey by's house on the day he was testifying about censorship related to twitter. elizabeth e elizabeth edward lawrence, thank you so much. let's welcome to the show tom dupree and sam dewey. good to see to you, gentlemen. first to you, tom. irs whistleblowers, they look stunned. democrats kept trying to bring up trump. the whistleblowers testified they never saw such political interference in all their years at the irs, tom. >> liz, this is absolutely mesmerizing testimony to the, and i'm sure anyone who is watching it couldn't help but rifted. this kind of confirms what a lot

of us suspected and were worried was going on behind the scenes. this investigation drugged -- dragged on for years, and to hear it personally from someone who was leading the investigation and said time and again he was blocked, he was stymied, prevented from pursuing the truth, that serious charges were downgraded to more moderate charges, it's so disheartening. and and the fact that this guy is a democrat makes his testimony all the more compelling. elizabeth: joe ziegler testified, a doj political appointee said you can't interview joe biden's grandchildren, until get us into hot water. that they had proof that hunter biden evaded hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes on millions of dollars of income on overseas deals. sam, we're going to show the fake deductions hunter biden took; hotel rooms for drug dealers, sex club memberships, college tuition payments for his daughter, things like that. we understand what hunter biden suffered from and endured, but

this story is bigger than that. >> oh, i think it is. and i think that the testimony is just depressing. to hear this, to see these individuals who are very credible run through all of this, and it just raises so many questions particularly when you consider that what they are saying directly contradicts what the attorney general assured us would not happen. and the attorney general, on june 30th and july 10 isth, was contradicted by david weiss. david weiss is now saying he did not have authority. he had some promise of future authority if conditions are met. taking his most recent two letters at face value, the attorney general's testimony was not accurate. and this is just a mess. and i really commend chairman comer for having hearing because, quite frankly, other than his committee, congress really has not done enough to to get to the bottom of this. elizabeth: yeah, so -- go ahead, sam.

>> they need to move, and they need to move now. elizabeth: got it. >> compare this to the trump impeachment. there was a transcript, the white house released it immediately. all the corroborating documents are in the possession of the department of justice. they are fighting tooth and nail in federal court on a freedom of information act, the decline production, they're refusing to produce to the hill. elizabeth: congressman marjorie taylor greene asked why democrats are not talking about hunter biden's abuse of women, treating women, she said, as if they were, quote, office supplies, asking if hunter biden violated the mann act, tom, bringing prostitutes across state lines. watch the fireworks here. >> so when hunter biden paid for this woman to do this with him, to travel across state lines from california to washington, d.c. on june 15th, this is a violation of the mann act.

this was prostitution. this is evidence -- >> mr. chairman? >> -- of hunter biden -- >> mr. chairman, it's over time -- >> excuse me, this is my time. making pornography -- >> should we be displaying this, mr. chairman -- >> gentlelady's time's expired. elizabeth: what do you think, tom? >> well, look, whether or not he violated the mann act, who's to say? i don't know the evidence. but i would say you can't have a huge amount of confidence that these types of allegations were appropriately pursued within the irs and the justice department. from what we heard today, many of the line attorneys and line investigators did uncover all sorts of evidence of serious misconduct, in some cases criminal misconduct, but they were prevented from fully investigating and from developing the evidence and the testimony and the documents that they would need to make a case. elizabeth: yeah, that's it. >> we're u.s. just not going to know at this point. elizabeth: what tom just said, diversionary distraction tactics by the democrats are falling apart. sam, we're going to show what

the whistleblowers said, that doj political appointees put up roadblocks every step of the way to protect joe biden. u.s. attorney leslie wolf blocked search warrants of biden's delaware home even though she admitted evidence could be there, that's according to the testimony. blocked searches of hunter biden's storage unit even though they had probable cause, that prosecutors concealed evidence from hunter biden's laptop, blocked even mention of joe biden's name during witness interviews and then tipped off biden's transition team in december 2020. what do you think, sam? >> i mean, it's just a list and a list, and this is why it needs to be pursued. and, again,ing i come back this hearing is great, but we we know there are some 2500 pages of documents collected directly on this issue. doj won't produce them. we need subpoenas from the hill for those. individuals aren't coming in, they need to be meaned that -- mean -- subpoenaed now. schiff didn't hesitate when he was investigating, why are we?

elizabeth: yeah, so what sam just said. are these obstruction of justice felonies, tom? what do you think? is. >> well, look, they could be. if you have a situation where there were individuals and there was a lawful investigation and they improperly tried to thwart it or stymy it, that could provide the basis for an obstruction the charge. i think what needs to happen here is we need to hear from other people within the irs and the justice department as to why this investigation was blocked, who made these decisions, who actually blocked it, what was the reason for the charging decisions they made. the attorney general has said he's comfortable having david weiss come and testify. i hope he'll take him up on that opportunity and actually be forthcoming and share his views, the decisions he made and why people apparently under his supervision weren't allowing this investigation to move forward as it should. elizabeth: tom, sam, thanks for joining us. back with us now, post columnist jon levine. jon, we've been watching the hearing all day. your reaction to it. >> i mean, it was just devastating. from ziegler is an incredibly credible witness. that's the first thing i want to

get across to your audience. he's a career irs man, he was the lead investigator on the irs probe investigating -- elizabeth: criminal probe. >> criminal probe. he is a democrat, he is a gay democrat as he announced in the hearing. he has absolutely nothing to gain from -- this, he has everything to lose. it is a crime to bring forward false whistleblower allegations, so he would face criminal prosecution if any of this was bologna. the charges demand further investigation. elizabeth: you know, the democrats' attempts to repeatedly bring up trump, not a sober look at the evidence, not a sober look at what the whistleblowers were saying. it seemed out of touch and, you know, off the wall. this news out of house oversight providing evidence that despite joe biden's preeted denials, joe biden -- appropriated denials, joe biden did repeatedly meet with hunter's business partners, knew about his business dealings dating back to 2012 -- 2013, when he started letting hunter

fly on air force two to do a deal in china. let's show the evidence. what do you think of this, jon? >> so i see right there $17 million into companies, 40 million from overseas deals. that's a tremendous sum of money to go into companies controlled by hunter biden and disbursed to his various family members. and it bears repeating at the time this cash was coming in, hunter biden was an active crack addict and alcoholic. there's absolutely no reason for him to be receiving these kinds of payments. he provided no service that justified these kind of expenditures. the only thing he had to offer was access to his father. that's it. elizabeth: yeah. so the evidence indicates that joe biden met with hunter biden's business partners from the chinese energy company cefc at the four seasons in los angeles, that joe biden was there, that cefc ended up sending the biden a family about $5 million through the shell companies they set up. >> i find that inquiry a little bit quaint, liz, because we've known he's been meeting with

business partners for years. i exposed business partners were meeting with him at the white house when he was vice president. we've known all of this for a very hong time. there's an expression, it's the cover-up that's worse than the crime. i cannot tell you specifically what crime joe biden has committed, but i can tell you that there has been a terrible cover-up when he said he never had any involvement in his son's overseas business dealings, because we know that he did. elizabeth: well, the fbi informant, you know, he's a veteran informant, paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by the fbi, the allegation that he is bringing is that joe and hunter biden took bribes from the from the founder of burisma. burisma had hired hunter to sit on its board, still no hard evidence of that. could this have been, these payments been buried in the web of shell companies the biden family set up? >> it's possible. everything's possible. the investigation needs to keep going, and i always say what's going to save us here is going to be patient. the one thing giant bureaucracies are good at,

generating boatloads of paper. the various committees need to keep going at these bank records and finding the underlying paper that'll corroborate a lot of these claims. elizabeth: so when you sat and watched the hearing today, were you basically stunned how solid the irs whistleblowers were, how democrats were trying to undermine and attack government whistleblowers who are veteran irs agents in the criminal division? i covered the irs for a long time. these are solid, you know, career officials, you know? and the distinction is this, that the democrats seem to be all for government whistle blowers when it comes to trump but undermining them when it comes to biden. >> these whistleblowers are totally unimpeachable. and i'll remind you, when we had a similar whistleblower in 2018, president trump was swiftly empired. so i don't know where we necessarily go here, but certainly david weiss needs to come testify under oath, possibly even merrick garland to answer for a number of these allegations and discrepancies with what they have said previously and now what these whistleblowers are alleging.

elizabeth: got it. jon levine, thanks for joining us tonight. we'll be staying on today's explosive testimony throughout the hour, bringing you the news and the headlines. and we've got this, a new bipartisan push in the senate to ban stock the trading in congress once and and for all. it again puts in sharp focus the dubious, questionable timing of stock trades by nancy pelosi's husband, paul pelosi, around the timing of legislation. plus, it's being slammed as a botched overreach. biden's new bid to stop inflation destroying his polls, get 31 statement a.g.s, the doj, the usda, the ftc, even hud to go after the grocery and meat industry. tonight senator roger marshall, senator marsha blackburn, former utah congressman jason chaffetz, wall street pro carol roth, the vice president of america first legal gene hamilton. we have a jam-packed show. stay right here. ♪

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appointees to block the criminal probe into hunter biden. what did you make of that? >> welk, it is very convincing, liz, absolutely convincing. i think america's watching this very closely. they understand that the department of justice the was weaponized, that joe biden weaponized them by stopping this investigation. look, these whistleblowers certainly seem to be credible, they're seasoned officers. they're basically putting their entire career on the line by coming forward here. i think they're very believable. again, the justice department was weaponize weaponized, and and this is unequal application of the law. elizabeth: so the criminal probe had been going on for five years, the whistleblowers basically saying when biden came into office, he put political appointees in there immediately, and they started to move to basically shut down the hunter biden criminal probe, bust it down to misdemeanors from felonies in order to protect joe biden. >> yeah. it is going to be a very complicated weave as we try to look under every place that a we can. i'm so proud of what's happening

in the house. they're doing a great job, looking forward to getting to the bottom of it. elizabeth: let's move on on to this breaking news about biden, it's being called a new big government overreach. his re-election is really threatened by inflation sticking stubbornly high, you know? it's basically cumulatively 16% since he took office. his polls keep dropping as inflation stays high. but now biden wants to sic, put 3 # state attorneys general, the usda, ftc, even hud to go after grocery stores and the meat industry over price gouging? how are they going to do that? >> right. well, joe biden owns inflation. on day one he declared war on american ago agriculture and energy. think about what he did the first day. he shut down the keystone pipeline are, he shut down offshore drilling, and and he also repealed president trump's -- the u.s. ruling. agriculture is so connected to

the energy field in the sense that we use a lot of diesel and, additionally, nitrogen-based fertilizer's come from natural gas. he was paying people more to stay at home than to go to work, so our trucking industry was decimated, still is having a hard time coming back. and lastly, i just want the talk about his regulatory burden on the american farmer as well. this war of regulations whether it's using the endangered species act, waters of the u.s., lending -- limiting the pesticides we can use, he's driving up the cost of doing business, and our american consumers are feeling the brunt of that at the market. elizabeth elizabeth you know, senator, they're talking about giving taxpayer money to maul and independent meat and poultry processers to standard build facilities in farm areas to increase competition, give them a stronger negotiating hand with bigger meat packers. but there's this weird wrinkle, senator. roll call is reporting that white house officials, when they were talking about this new plan

with journalists, they told reporters do not report our names, we can only be identified as, quote, senior administration officials. so, senator, if it's so great, whyen didn't they want to be anywhere near it? [laughter] >> well, i guess it's not green i enough, is it? is that the problem here? that they to don't like the belching from cattle. you know, look, i don't know. certainly, we do need more competition, and i think there's some good ways to do that, and we have legislation that would roll back some regulations. the problem that we can't get more meatpackers to grow is that the regulatory burden is just too much. so, for instance, our legislation would allow these small meatpackers to sell meat across the state line using state inspection. is so there's bays out there. walmart is building their own packing plant in kansas now, so the market's going to respond to this. there is some consolidation of industry. it was created by all these rules and regulations by my friends across the aisle. elizabeth: but what do you make then of this big top-down, big

government push by biden? will it work? >> you know, typically it doesn't. typically, it backfires in some ways, some shape typically, so there's lots of problems in the packing industry. again, we have only four packing plants that control 80% of the industry is. there does need to be competition, but at the same time, need some guardrails around that. elizabeth e elizabeth senator marshall, pleasure having you on. >> i enjoyed it, thank you. elizabeth: we are monitoring the whistleblower hearings about political interference and cover-up in the hunter biden criminal probe. we're staying on this story for you too, a top watchdog -- a top regulator for the u.s. power grid delivers a grim warning to congress. china could easily and readily undermine u.s. electricity, even shut down rail lines and military installations and power to your homes? and the update on former president trump talking to sean hannity about a possible third indictment. we're going to give you the update on that. and the hill magazine reports

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mike pence following ron desantis and vivek ramaswamy's lead here, walking a tight line between saying trump should have done more on on january 6th, but then questioning criminal charges. >> absolutely, he was wrong. >> unquestion -- unequivocal. >> and i'm unequivocalled today, that there's a difference between doing something wrong, as he did, versus doing something that is illegal. >> reporter: others are showing frustration saying it is time for gop candidates to fight harder against trump. >> now, why are some people still kissing his butt when they should be, you know, challenging him -- >> yeah. >> -- especially his competitors? look, i'm not a political science, but i have won a couple of races that nobody thought i would win. you don't win by kissing your opponent's butt with. >> reporter: trump usually sees a big bump in polling after news of an investigation, and take a look at this poll done before the news broke yesterday. it actually reveals trump's grip on new hampshire slipping. trump 14 points ahead of ron

desantis now when he was 20 points ahead back in april according to a similar survey. much of his lead has been eaten up by senator tim scott who is now polling third in new hampshire. elizabeth in. elizabeth: wow, that's really interesting. aishah, great reporting as always. good to have you on the show, or thanks for joining us. back with us now, former utah congressman jason chaffetz. jason, there's major fighting right now that's happening right now, going on in the irs whistleblower hearing today. your take on that. >> well, i think the republicans did a very good job of laying out the case that the department of justice thwarted an investigation and criminal prosecution that was being pursued by the irs. i think the irs whistleblowers were, had a high degree of credibility. they came with facts, they pursued the case for four years, and david weiss and the attorney general, somebody over there at the department of justice put a big hamper, they squashed the investigation. and these people put their careers on the line by stepping

up and saying that we've never seen this before, ask we have a duty and an obligation to let congress and the world know that this case of hunter biden and the biden family business was dealt with differently than anything else that had been done before. it was done for the benefit of the bidens and against what republicans are trying to do. they don't want to be political. they know that hunter biden should have been prosecuted with far more, and he hasn't been. elizabeth: yeah, they -- >> because the department of justice is weaponized. elizabeth: he's expected to soon be charged with tax misdemeanors, not felonies. the whistleblowers saying the felony charges were busted down into misdemeanors even though they had proof of major crimes, tax felonies. he's not being charged with foreign lobbying violations, he's not being charged -- marjorie taylor greene really lit it up alleging hunter biden transported prostitutes across state lines. that is the violation of the mann act. is there there any investigation

into this? remember new york state attorney general eliot spitzer was accused of that, never prosecuted for that. >> well, that's the thing, is that these irs investigators wanted to to go get more evidence, wanted to understand about joe biden, the big guy, did he get the $10,000. they based their information on suspicious activity reports and other information. but they weren't allowed to pursue it because the department of justice says you can't ask about hunter biden's dad, you can't go issue the subpoena and go interview the witness. you can't go to the residence and collect other information. anybody else, yes. bidens, no. elizabeth: the hill magazine reporting republican senators holding back on defending trump. it's, of course, senators mitch mcconnell, thune and cornyn cautious, only senator barrasso criticized the possible third indictment. we've got reports former commerce secretary wilbur ross holding a meet and greet for virginia governor glenn

youngkin. let's listen to florida governor ron desantis slamming a potential third indictment of trump. watch this. >> this country is going down the road of criminalizing political differences. and i think that's wrong. alvin bragg stretched the statute to try to target donald trump. my job is to restore a single saturday the of justice -- standard of justice, to end weaponization of these agencies. we're going to have a new fbi director on day one, big changes at the department of justice. americans across the political spectrum need to have confidence that what is going on is based on the rule of law, not based on what political tribe you're in. if i'm the nominee, or we'll be able to focus on president biden's failures, and i'll be able to articulate a positive vision for the future. elizabeth: what do you think, jason? >> amen to what governor desantis is saying. i think what ron desantis is saying resonates with people across the country. not just far-right republicans, maga republicans, conservatives, but i think that's what independents ultimately want as

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elizabeth: okay, senator marsha blackburn is going to join us in a moment. we want to talk to former utah congressman jason chaffetz about this. jason, this really lit up and really broke apart the irs whistleblower hearing when marjorie taylor greene brought up hunter biden's abuse of women, treating them like, quote, office supplies, asking hunter biden transporting prostitutes across state lines, how can there is not a charge against hunter biden of violating the mann act? so this is when, you know, the hearing really lit up and fighting and shouting. >> well, no doubt this is, this was one of the more salacious parts of the hearing, and it's

quite disturbing. but you cannot pay and put it off as a business expense the fly a prostitute across the country to perform, you know, sexual favors for somebody and then have is her go back with on an airline ticket. and marjorie taylor greene showed that airline ticket. now, also what came out in this hearing are hunter biden, for instance, one of the things that came out spending $10,000 for a golf club expense. well, it wasn't a golf club, it was a sex club. the irs whistleblowers also highlighted the idea that hunter biden paid for joe biden's hotel rooms on a particular trip. but it wasn't a business with expense, was it? or was it a business expense? because remember, wasn't it joe biden who said i've never had a discussion about any sort of business, overseas business dealings with my son? so several of these came out. i think the one thing i wish the hearing did more of is show how

that money was flowing. they did establish that there were millions of dollars that were flowing in to the bidens. they didn't pay taxes by the hundreds of thousands of dollars, but they weren't allowed to fully pursue these charges with the department of justice. elizabeth: got it. jason, thanks for stepping in there. let's bring in senator marsha blackburn. senator, an honor and a pleasure having you on. your reaction to the whistleblower hearing today in. >> well, jason was summing it up very well. i think that what we should do is, first of all, be very thankful that we have employees of the federal government who see the wrong being done, who see how government is being weaponized and politicized, and they are stepping up to call that out. that is a good thing. and whether it's irs or the fbi, to have people that say what you're doing is wrong and you cannot politicize these agencies

and use them against the citizens of this country, i'm grateful that they're there. elizabeth: what's striking is democrats undermining the whistle blowers. this is about honesty, integrity and justice being served and conducted right, in a correct way in the u.s. government. it's kind of -- viewers seeing thissing we talked to them, they found it really disturbing, the democrat behavior in this. this is also happening at the same time, senator, we need your reaction to this. we know we have a heat wave hitting the u.s. the biden's electric car push putting millions of new cars onto the power grid. the top u.s. grid regulator told house energy that china is a threat to the power grid? what was your reaction to this? >> when you hook at our -- look at our capacity to generate electric power and today i met with many of our public power distributers and we talked about what is happening, specifically

some of the regulations that the epa and nepa pa are putting in -- nepa are putting in, they're making it very difficult to expand the grid. or for our power generators. elizabeth, what they're doing is turning to the generators and making it very difficult for them to increase the load that they generate. because they don't want gas, they don't want nuclear, they want renewables. but then you also look at the fact that transformers, they're going to increase the regulations on these electric power transformers our distributers use. and already are these transformers are at 95, 97% efficiency. so they want to change this. you've got a lot of costs there. you are not going to be able to get this. and so, therefore, who's going

to pay for it? it's going to be the rate payer, both the commercial and the residential rate payer. elizabeth: wow. senator blackburn, we're going to stay on these stories. thank you so much for your insight and perspective and coming on the show. it's great to have you on. okay, we're staying on the irs whistle blower hearing that's been going on. irs agents slamming the media, also the media and democrats for damaging and undermining government whistleblowers. they were all for them under trump, now not under biden. and a renewed senate push to ban congress stock trading. that's putting renewed focus on the timing of stock trades by nancy pelosi's husband coming around government legislation and the awarding of federal contracts. let's check in with our friends dagen and sean to see what they've got coming up next hour on "the bottom line." sean: we're going to dive into the story of the big hearing today, a lot of information came out. we have senator rick scott as well as kristi noem, governor of south dakota, talking about jason aldean and cmt canceling a

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elizabeth: let's welcome back to the show former investment banker, wall street pro, author of the terrific new book "you will own nothing," just came out yesterday with, carol roth. carol, you wrote about congressional stock trading in your new book. there's lots of concerns politicians in washington trade on inside information. now you've got senators kirstin gillibrand and josh hawley, they want to ban elected officials in d.c. from owning stocks in individual companies, even in blind trusts. what do you make of it? >> yeah. this is central to the you own nothing theme, the richer getting richer while the working and middle class get crushed. and, obviously, we have seen people in congress trading not only when they have inside information, but also when they have influence over outcomes. there there have been several of these bills that have been proposed, many on a bipartisan basis, but there's been no

action. i think the thing that concerns me the most about this one, liz, is the potential for loopholes. think about when gary cohn joined the trump administration and he had to sell all the stocks so there wasn't a conflict. he also was able to defer capital gains. and so, you know, they have a situation like that with those kinds of loopholes, i think the rich could actually get even more wealthy with something like that, so they need to be careful. elizabeth: nan i pelosi apparently got very wealthy on a $200,000 salary. her husband's a venture capitalist and does a lot of reality invest investment, but the dubious timing of the stock trades around legislation like the awarding of government contracts to big tech. you know, so what you're going to see here, let's flip to the other full screen. that's not the one we wanted to show. he bought tesla stock before biden's executive order requiring electric cars for all federal workers. he basically exercised microsoft options to two, you know, two

weeks before moth if -- microsoft won a multibillion dollar army contract. it's things hike that, you know? >> yeah. moses i remember her saying -- pelosi, i remember he her saying it was just purchasing in the free market, which is hilarious, because if you and i did this, we would be called into court. there's a great site that tracks members of congress' stock purchases, and it seems like the pelosi -- pelosis have done really well, there's a stock tracker that you can follow to see what kind of purchases they've made to follow what the elite are doing. elizabeth: this is biden's agenda. >> i mean, they absolutely do. i mean, this is why they have been out touting things like unrazed -- unrealized capital gains and trying the tax that. it certainly isn't the wealthy and well connected who have the lawyers and the accountants to be able to do the trust and estate planning to get around

this. there's almost $85 trillion, liz, that's set to turn over voluntarily in the next 23 years in inheritances, so wouldn't that be nice if they got you to buy in on that and and they were able to get their hands on that? elizabeth: carol roth, it's good to see you. we're staying on today's explosive hearing with irs whistleblowers. irs agents and gop lawmakers -- for damaging government whistleblowers. that's coming up on "the evening edit." ♪

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joining us now, vice president of america first legal, jean hamilton. it's good to see you again. iris was a blowers today said democrats and the media are doing immeasurable damage to them, the media falsely attacking them. there were whistleblowers now against them. what do you think? >> what we are seeing in the house today is what the american people have suspected happening for years and years to get no one has been paying attention to the mainstream media. we have two career whistleblowers here, people who are not literal after testifying about the ways this investigation was irregular, the artist did not have access to because it involved one person -- hunter biden it is a double standard, something we are concerned about and precisely why we try to bring

some accountability to the situation by suing the department of justice to compel hunter biden's registration as a foreign agent with the department of justice as he should have done all along. >> helping lobby for china inside the state department -- excuse me, ukraine's burisma inside and more. let's listen to jason smith, chairman of house ways and me means. >> i apologize the behavior some of our colleagues and the press has treated you for doing what is right to the american people to see it. >> iris was a blower joke is eagle, a veteran irs criminal investigator, he says i believe u.s. attorney and gentler and d.o.j. officials have a clear target on me and my supervisors, my own agency retaliating against me, threatening me with criminal conduct. this is really bad stuff.

>> and absolutely is, the kind of stuff was of long protections set up for. this again is something we keep seeing for years and years now with their standards of justice, one for the biden family and one for the rest of the american people and these two whistleblowers talking, they didn't have access to the information should have been made available in an ordinary criminal investigation and a post that against, on the other hand the biden administration itself, the biden white house orchestrating access for the fbi through special access request in to obtain records related to donald trump. we see this administration going after its enemies like the former president doing everything it can he is it every possible tool and every investigative technique it possibly could undertake, mostly for erroneous reasons yet when

it comes to something the american people see lately with their own eyes, criminal conduct having been conducted by the president's own son, lesser charges and we see what's happening here. >> one of the whistleblowers joe ziegler is a democrat. >> absolutely. this is not somebody who has an ax to grind and it's -- this is what happens when you speak truth and power in this is what happens when you or somebody trying to come out there and do the right thing. >> you will be back on, good to see you and thank you for watching. now time for the bottom line they can and sean. have a great show coming up in. ♪