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good morning. it is 10:00 eastern, straight to your money. downgrade day, the market is responding of the dow is down 160. the nasdaq is down 180. a lot of selling after the downgrade. the 10 year treasury yield is up 4.09% as of right now. the price of oil $80 a barrel. gas prices rising, bitcoin moving up to $29,000 a coin, 28 yesterday. that's downgrade day. we are spending too much, borrowing too much and there's no agreement how to fix the growing financial mess. that is why america has been downgraded. it happened under obama and happened again now under biden. the main reason, wild spending
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that brings an explosion of debt is what happened under obama and happening again now. when you are $32 trillion in debt you should not be planning trillions more in future spending and borrowing. this is a blow to president biden. it damages his economic message. treasury secretary yellen said it was arbitrary. karine jean-pierre blamed extremes by republican officials, senate leader schumer blamed the brinkmanship of house republicans and democrat richard neal says the republican party is wholly responsible. there's another reason for the downgrade apart from spending and debt. erosion of governance. that is our inability to agree on spending and data. brinkmanship at a budget time every year. that doesn't instill confidence in the future. it is a warning that if we keep expanding our debt, there will
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be at some point i debt crisis. lenders become reluctant to lend, demand higher interest rates to compensate for the extra risk, we going to recession, that means more debt and a downward cycle accelerates. this is really serious stuff. second hour of varney just getting started. market watcher david traduced he is with me this morning. does the downgrade change your forecast for the stock market this fall? >> good morning, great to be with you. i am not surprised by the downgrade. i've been saying this for a long time. in 2011 we were in the same moment, higher debt to gdp spending, political stalemate, the things that cause the downgrade of 2011.
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normally this weird spot with nations like singapore and norway, also companies in the us more creditworthy than the united states. what has been going well for the united states is the fed strength of saying hey we are going to tighten, raise these interest rates and do the thing that's hard. that caused the dollar to soar which because of how commodities are priced, caused commodities to go down in price for us to buy us dollars. it became more expensive for other nations to trade into it. stuart: excellent analysis which i want an answer to the question. has the downgrade change your forecast for the stock market going forward? >> i believe we will see a rough third and fourth quarter this year, looking into the new year.
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the us downturn causes interest rates and inflation to go up. treasuries are more costly. we referred to in a moment ago. that makes money worth less and follow the statement on that, worth less. the market is not backing down and we see them as a result of little fluctuation, do dollarization going on. blue and going forward we are in trouble. if you are a stock market investor, watch out. is that your message? >> we need to watch out, talking about metals, oil is going to go up quite a bit. metal miners if you look at their p/e ratios relative to the s&p 500, a better time to purchase minors today than right now. there are opportunities in this market, we need to be cautiously optimistic as we move forward. there's a lot of red warning flashing signs right now.
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stuart: what is wrong with a 5% yield on a 6-month treasury? >> sounds great but if the us dollar begins to slip more, it will make your money worth less, we will get to 8% mortgages by 2023 as well. that is where the economy is going. there's a lot of sentiment moving forward -- stuart: it is down altogether. we don't care what the message is. back to the stock market. looking at ford motor company down 21/4%. >> sales rose 5.9% last year. it is up 8%. but evs are struggling.
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the f 150 lightning, it dropped 28% this july from last july. stuart: i told you last week, i bought an f150, gasoline powered, and electric. lauren: did you consider the ev version? you said no. i don't want to plug in a charger where i live. actually listen sometimes. stuart: amazon, nonprime members delivered in 12 cities. lauren: that is a big deal. amazon is trying to branch out to bring in more revenue. they will charge you so you don't have to pay that, you pay 795. they are revamping their grocery strategy. stuart: they are down across the board, stocks down across the board. elf beauty. lauren: up they go, 17% at a record high, this was a strong quarter, they raised their outlook for the year, sales grew 76%. this is drugstore beauty brand, lot of tiktok beauty trends,
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makeup is a personal luxury. >> this is a top story, donald trump indicted on four new charges, this is jack smith's investigation, and do you think trump could be elected? >> i don't know. i don't know. we see with the new york city indictment, you look at polling and as conservatives rally behind trump, what is happening to him is unfair. multiple indictments heading into the 24 election, you have to be in etiquette not to realize what they are trying to do, the abuse of government that is taking place. if you look at polling after the new york city indictment, the majority of americans supported those indictments.
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as conservatives rallying behind trump but the rest of america to win a general election, they rally behind. stuart: we don't know at this point. we just don't know. stuart: whether it was yesterday. reverse the question. can biden be elected? >> i hope not. look what is happening in the country. i knew he would be bad. i was one of the ones heading into the 2020 election saying this guy is not a moderate, this is not a moderate. he flip-flopped on the hyde amendment in 24 hours, changed his stance on fossil fuels et cetera. i knew he wasn't a moderate, he oversaw tweet of the nastiest supreme court hearings in american history as senate judiciary chairman with clarence thomas, i knew he was a bad guy, i knew he would do wrong but i didn't know it would be this bad. i think we are all feeling the
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pain of that but past historical norms directions don't apply anymore and we saw that with the midterm elections. they worked in politics a long time. this is my eat and the norms don't apply anymore and you look at the department of justice, where biden is willing to try to win an election, weapon icing or -- our own government against a former president for the first time in american history, unprecedented action by the department of justice. that isn't a norm. that's not a fair playing field either. so many unknown variables that we need to be cautious in trying to figure out what is going to happen, where the republican primary field is going to land let alone a general election. stuart: you gave an honest answer to the question. >> i have been known to do that. sometimes too honest for my own good. stuart: that an honest answer. >> that's what i strive for.
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stuart: come back soon. more on this indictment. vice president mike pence didn't mince words in reaction to the indictments. lauren: his view is different from the rest of the gop contenders. he had a front row seat. he was pressured by donald trump. he says this. today's indictment serves as an important reminder, anyone who puts himself over the constitution should never be president of the united states. the former president is -- with this indictment, his candidacy, more talk about january 6th and more distractions. the last part is very true. let's focus on biden, let's focus on the biden economy and let's focus on under's business dealings that could involve and did involve president biden? stuart: tell me about the judge. the judge overseeing that january 6th case.
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lauren: a president obama a pointy, the only judge to sentence the january 6th rioters to longer sentences and department of justice requested. she denied his emergency motion to stop the national archives from turning these records to the january 6th committee. she famously wrote that presidents are not kings and plaintiff is not president. much of that evidence resurfaced the indictment yesterday. stuart: the republican national committee is going to make it harder for candidates to get into the second debate stage. lauren: they have to raise more money, $15,000 in funds from 20 states and have to pull the 3% or higher in at least two national polls, 1% and to get behind the eventual nominee. september 27th.
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stuart: the first is august 23rd. fox's debate. now this. x corp. formerly known as twitter is going after british research company x, says researchers cherry picked posts to show a rise in hate speech after elon musk did that. we have that story for you in full coming up. illegal migrants on new york city sidewalks after being bussed back from buffalo. officials say the migrants were properly processed in new york. claudia taney will deal with the growing migrant crisis. she's in our next our. poland sent troops to the eastern border, into that country at airspace, there's growing concern that vladimir putin could directly involve belarus in the ukraine war. trey yingst has the full report after this. ♪
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stuart: on the market, down a little bit more, 200 on the dow. that would be 0. 6%. the nasdaq taking it on the chin down 252. that is one. 7%. let's change the subject. poland sending more than a thousand additional troops to its eastern border, two by russian helicopters, belarus helicopters crossed into poland at airspace. overnight, russia launched a new attack ukraine. trey yingst is with us, wrap it up, give us the latest. >> reporter: overnight the russians continued their aerial campaign against ukraine targeting critical infrastructure, this time russian forces launching drones
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into southern ukraine, hitting an alternate route for grain shipments, extensive damage was caused on the danube river. the small port is used to export ukrainian grain and remain a critical thoroughfare with the russians blocking exports through the black sea. russian president plan report and an turkish president erewhon discussed shipment, they had a deal to ask what ukrainian grain, and the drone strikes on native member ukrainian. this is how willing they are to strike to nato territory, another nato member is poland, the polish military deployed more troops to the board with belarus after two helicopters crossed into poland after more than a thousand polish troops were deployed to the same area over concerns for wagner's fighters training in the neighboring country could be used to launch an attack. as russia's invasion of
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ukraine, vladimir putin could drag belarus into the war once again. stuart: look at this headline. it reads ukraine's counteroffensive needs a plan b. a former russian cia chief. and did install and if so why, >> they launched a counteroffensive, this ran the forces back. to put the russians, in such a precarious position that they supported the peace. they were preparing their defenses. there was a defense of fortification.
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and the prospect of success, the ukrainians indicated they were committing their strategic reserves to this. and they are committing these reserves of about indication -- >> what should we -- which americans be doing? >> neither side can win this war out right on the battlefield. it is going to have to be a compromised settlement. the alternative is that ukraine will be ground down over time. its economy will be crippled, the longer this goes on the
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worst shape ukraine will be in at the end of this. the sooner to advantage up o-matic offensive aiming toward compromise, the better off everyone including ukraine will be. stuart: are we deliberate holding them back? >> that's the tough question to answer. it doesn't look like the united states has plan b. we have been premiseding our strategy on success in this counteroffensive. that has not materialized to this point. the united states needs to do some deep thinking about how to bring this war to a conclusion. stuart: thank you very much for your information and your point of view. we will keep checking what is going on. to the markets, down a bit further, up 214 on the dow, 44
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stuart: still deep in the red, down 200, nasdaq down 218. this is downgrade day. lauren king at movers. lauren: a profit helped by a smaller increase in medical costs and a surge in nonurgent surgeries. up 4. 7% on a down day. we want how about electronic arts?
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lauren: video game publisher with spending by gamers. they issued a week forecast for the current quarter. there are lots of competitions for video games. they ended their partnership, have a september debut of a new software franchise coming out. stuart: i wonder if this is a turning point for the market. so many movers are down. so many every day stocks down. talk about spirit aerosystems? lauren: not only 9%. they have a worker strike that impacted their production. they make the fuselage for some boeing jets, they lowered their 737 delivery forecasts and reported a loss that was larger than expected. stuart: let's move away from losses and turn to elon musk. he's going after people who claim there has been a rise in hate speech when they took over twitter which is now called x. lauren: he is suing this nonprofit, it is a researcher.
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musk is accusing them of cherry picking the data they selected and, twitter posts see a sharp rise in hate speech. since musk took it over. musk didn't do enough to take the hate speech down and all they did was cherry pick what they looked at. stuart: he fights back always. us women's soccer team narrowly avoided getting knocked out of world cup, settled for a scoreless draw against portugal. charlie arnold is the out pick host and joins me now. they play a tough opponent, sweden, next. how come their performance so far has been so lackluster? >> it happens. you play difficult opponents, that is why they play the game. we don't know who is going to win but it remains that this team is running on fumes. they narrowly got past portugal.
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carly boyd said there's no reason to be celebrating because the goalpost quite frankly was the best player on the field. i will say i disagree with carley because having momentum and having a good attitude is a different thing to get through these grueling tournaments like they are now. the tough contest at facing sweden, out of the 2016 game, they are going to be the top of their game past this squad. they are running on fumes. it will be a tough one. stuart: were you surprised carley lloyd criticized the team? >> i was surprised. a win is a win. i've been an athlete my entire life and no matter how you get past the team, it is something to be celebrated in situations like this.
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and they still won, their core group together and their health remain top-notch. they have a big contest ahead and hopefully that momentum carries them through. stuart: when did they play sweden? >> not exactly sure of the time of the game but it is coming up shortly. stuart: sunday on fox of course. another issue. the national anthem, not all the players were standing or holding hands over their hearts. what is going on here? >> this is something we are seeing all over sporting leagues in our country. it is very sad especially when you look at their opponents, vietnamese players who are adamantly writing their country, really sad what we are seeing in the wnda, we are seeing it here on the national soccer team. patriotism as you have seen in the gallup poll that was
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recently released is pretty much at an all-time low right now. a lot of people don't -- take pride in living in this country and we need to turn this around. this is not some thing we want to showcase on an international stage. stuart: it is upsetting to see america's national team overseas not respected, that's a negative. tiger woods joined the policy board, player, director, looking to give golfers the biggest say in major decisions but the pga live fight is far from over. >> this is a win for the players on the pga tour, a couple months ago, players were blindsided by the fact that pga emerged with the wealth bond and they found out hours before it went down.
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players are turned down tremendous opportunities put forward to them, they are loyal to the pga. this is the point players were saying we understand you didn't do right by us, we put ourselves in a position where we are being taken care of so with tiger being elevated, this puts players at an advantage 6 players on the board versus the other board members. no decisions can get by them without them giving the okay first. stuart: this out is injected enormous amounts of money into gold and soccer. is that many welcome to the sporting world? >> the more money you have more
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resources you get, you can put behind your tournament where players in essence get paid, with more money in their pockets, the better they take care of their families. more money is celebrated. the question in this particular instance, where is it coming from? is this money, we want to be taking from the saudis but i don't know if anything will be done, they make the best of the situation. stuart: sunday i'm watching fox sports, usa against sweden. it's early in the morning. thank you very much. >> absolutely. stuart: that is my time of day, 5:00 in the morning. see you again soon. your uber lift -- could cost more because more local government wants to raise the minimum wage for rideshare drivers, details on that coming up.
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stuart: on the market, the dow is down 225, the nasdaq down 229 and the s&p is down 45 points. a lot of selling today. minneapolis is considering raising the minimum wage for uber and lift drivers which i take it that would make a ride to more expensive. lauren: lift says it would double the cost of a ride.
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20 is going to 40. in minneapolis, city council considering sitting in wage for drivers, they would get at least $5 an hour. drivers say we don't make enough money to make ends meet. the governor of the state of minnesota vetoed such legislation, it could happen at the local level. new york city, california as allstate, washington as a state have set minimum wages for over and lift drivers. stuart: moving on. some automakers are cutting our promise of electric vehicles as demand for the new evs remains lower than expected. there's always a report that evs lose 1/3 of the range in the extreme heat. that doesn't help demand, does it? >> most of the country just experienced a heat wave. a new study says temperatures above 100 could reduce the range of an ev by 30 one%. research and ally 7500 batteries and showed some evs
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could even lose range when temperatures hit 80 degrees. another claim that is being challenged that they are cheaper alternative to the pain at the pump, the headline is always they are more expensive on the outside but you save money over time. that doesn't account for a number of dynamic like the cost to install a home charger, the cost to drive to a charter. might not seem a big deal in california where i am but have to go out of the way where charging infrastructure is lacking. for every 100 miles, entry-level price was almost $3 cheaper than an ev counterpart when midpriced, one dollar and $0.50 cheaper, this comes days after the department of transportation you should a proposal that would essentially force all vehicles to electric by 2032 and aggressive considering evs below the manufacturers suggested retail price. the website notes there are four selling at or below msrp and the current ev business
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model isn't sustainable. >> they are lowering the prices to move the cars off the lot, at the cost of their product margin. they can't do that forever. they can't pour billions of dollars into this technology and price it low enough to sell and not go out of business because you won't make money back. lauren: you see that playing out with chesler. those margins, everly quarterly earnings reports. stuart: a good story. you back that one well. good stuff indeed. one ev stock is surging. retail guys, which stock? lauren: coming in today it was up 50% in three sessions. it is down today like most stocks. we see a rise in mom and pop interest, it is being mentioned a lot. there is some news, they have a
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shareholder meeting tomorrow writing this momentum. how do they keep it up? hindenburg research taking it down 3 years ago, false advertising about the range. do they remember that. stuart: it was cheating. lauren: a new probe that went down steering in the new model 3 and model why. they were driving, lost power steering, this was a probe. stuart: a subtle difference. president biden's campaign is hoping vice president harris could help him with black and latino voters. good question, is that winning strategy. donald trump indicted again, third time in four months. grady trimble breaks down a newcomer will charge the former president is facing.
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stuart: a downside move on the market has been pretty much on hold the last 30 minutes. down 260, donald trump indicted on four criminal charges on january 6th. >> and in court tomorrow afternoon. when he's in the courthouse, these felony charges laid out in the indictment. special counsel jack smith alleges the former president illegally conspired to overturn the result of the 2020 election. >> described in the indictment, fueled by lies. targeted at obstructing the bedrock function of the us government.
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collecting, counting and certifying the results of the presidential election. >> the former president taking to truth social questioning the timing of the indictment. one day after lawmakers interviewed devon archer on the biden family's business dealings and while trump is leading the polls for the gop presidential nomination. many republicans are coming to his defense. >> he' s going to see a bump in the polls, he will see an increase in fundraising. jack smith is having unintended consequences for with the ultimate goal is to take donald trump out. >> reporter: the former president's opponents have mixed reaction to this indictment. senator tim scott, they say it once again highlighted two tier justice system.
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on the other hand former vice president mike pence says the indictment serves as an important reminder. anyone who puts himself over the constitution should never be president of the united states. trump's attorney floated a venue change in a trial. governor desantis suggested in his statement it should not take place in dc but as mentioned, trump will appear in court tomorrow. stuart: thanks very much. molly hemingway with us this morning. i want to break down the timing of this. devon archer implicates biden, the financial scandal, tuesday trump is indicted. any coincident in the timing? >> not just that it happened this week were two other instances where you have devastating news for the biden family for release of the document that alleges a bribery scheme. hunter biden, his plea
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agreement blue up in court. each time those things happen, the next day, jack smith charged or added charges to trump. the timing is extremely suspicious but regardless of the timing, it needs to be dealt with and analyzed, and people are surprised how weak the latest indictment is. stuart: it has been seen that way. does that mean trump gains ground on this indictment? >> any time they add charges to him, that makes the case for him in the view of a lot of his supporters. no one is as much a victim of the weaponization of the department of justice and attacks on rule of law as donald trump and a lot of republican voters care about it. that's why you see many other candidates, even if competing against trump they recognize the department of justice the and completely out of control is a threat to the republic and
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a number one issue among all republican voters and it is going to continue to be that. it is real and shocking that it continues to happen and more people are accepting it. stuart: let me talk about the downgrade in the american -- america's credit rating was goldplated and aa plus. less than stellar. this is a blow to biden because he and the democrats just can't stop spending. nonstop spending and debt accumulation has given rise to this downgrade. how do you see it? >> it is somewhat surprising it took long for the downgrade, this is a blow to the bidenomics agenda the biden campaign seems to see as an argument in favor of that whether it is inflation, gas prices, even other things like how we seem like a banana republic to people in other
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countries, that goes into perceptions about this, the spending is not just out of control but it will continue to be. to some extent it is surprising it took this long. stuart: forgive me but i will say something unusual. i can't -- i cannot see trump losing the nomination. i think he is going to be the candidate in the election next year. i cannot see president biden being the candidate for the democrats. how do you see it. >> there were powers, for making him the nominee, in securing the win for the presidency. and if they can use it again they will and if not, we will
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see someone else but on physical and mental decline, hard to see that he would be the nominee. stuart: do you know folks who are throwing up their hands, in other election with biden and trump, do you see that? >> in 2020, president biden got 80 million votes. the democrat party has a good operation to get ballots in ballot boxes. as long as they have that operation uncontested, doesn't really matter, could be fetterman, could be president biden, you will get those votes. it is not about that. stuart: some people were fed up with politics but i am not and don't think you are either. you are all right. thanks for joining us, appreciate it. the biden 2024 team wants kamala harris to help with the key aspect and what would it be? lauren: minority outreach. black enthusiasm for president
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biden which really propelled him in past election has dropped off significantly. there are many reasons. many of them are sick of the loss of manufacturing jobs, high inflation and crime especially in cities. the biden campaign is scheduling kamala harris was black, and indian, and a woman to speak with different minority groups hoping she can appeal to what voters want to hear from the biden team up. bottom line, my opinion biden is playing identity politics with kamala harris who has failed. stuart: he always has. >> doubling down on it. stuart: kamala harris is vice president of the united states. lauren: voters are more excited about potential harris nomination over president biden, 26% to 20%. president kamala harris. stuart: thanks. back to the markets. no improvement, the dow is down 280.
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the nasdaq down 270. in percentage terms, down 0.78%, a whopping loss, 2% from the nasdaq. two year treasury yield well above 4%. that doesn't help stocks. the price of oil roughly 80, 81, dropped below $80 a barrel. gas prices are rising rapidly. a gallon of regular nationwide average is 380, up $0.02 overnight. diesel, we have that at 410. that is up $0.03 overnight. i am telling you, gas prices, diesel prices straight up. still ahead, new york congas woman claudia tenney on the migrant crisis unraveling in her state. martha maccallum, donald trump's third indictment. we will get a preview of apple's earnings report due out tomorrow and this. we are facing a unique presidential election. as things stand now, probably
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