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joe biden was, and now they know that that is not true. i don't think he can hide totally. it's a very odd campaign, and you can kind of understand why. >> do you think trump is presidential or not is a question for the voters and not a question for jack smith and a incredibly biased jury in washington d.c. >> what i don't like is when politicians mess with this country, and and they're messing with this country by letting debt spiral out of control. you have to deal with this. >> every time we send washington, d.c. a buck, they're spending $1.20. we have now raised the size of government spending by 50% approximately in five years. that is an absolute sin. it never ends, and it's going to get worse going forward. ♪ i'm gonna show you how to move. ♪ come, mr. deejay -- stuart: rihanna. lauren: rihanna. you said it right, you just stressed the h.

stuart: all right. 1:00 1 -- 11:00 eastern time, it is thursday, august 3rd. check those markets. we're 90 minutes into the trading session, the dow's down 120, nasdaq down 21 points. we're all waiting for apple and amazon at about 4:00 this afternoon. show me big tech, i've got a winner in microsoft, amazon, alphabet, meta and a apple are down. finish the 10-year treasury yield going up. watch it, sports fans, it's up 10 basis points. that is a lot on trading -- in bond trading, and the yield is 4.18%. interesting market thursday morning. now this. florida governor ron desantis will debate california governor gavin newsom. that is big news in the political world. it brings together the candidates challenging for the top spot in their respective parties. desantis is a distant can second to trump. newsom has not declared, but

it's no secret he's got his eye on the presidency, and there's plenty of democrats who want to get rid of biden, get him out and put newsom in for 2024. sean hannity brings them together on fox this fall. perfect timing for both. desantis the needs to break out of the overwhelming presence of donald trump. look, he's 30 points behind. he needs a breakout. and newsom by the fall will surely be tempted to push hard to replace the aging and frail president biden. he will also -- it will also be a debate of opposites. republican florida versus progressive, democrat california. desantis, conservative on gender and abortion, opened up quickly from the pandemic, low tax, opposes the open border, law and order guy. newsom, very different. radical on climate, he runs a sanctuary state for migrants, high tax, high poverty, high crime, homelessness, drug taking. this is the debate we should be having at the national level.

so forgive me, please, if i repeat my provocative and perhaps foolish prediction. here it is. the democrats will pushed biden out because he can't win. newsome takes his place. trump wins the nomination for the republicans, trump then goes on to beat newsom. i reserve my right to change my forecast at a moment's notice. [laughter] third hour of "varney" starts right now. ♪ ♪ stuart: i hope my california i guy's laughing because most of the studio audience is laughing with me. steve hilton joins us. steve, here's my story the, here's my forecast. see what you think. newsom in and trump beats him in the election of 2024. what do you say? >> well, first of all, i mean, i think it's a really -- i'm not going to say accurate, with we don't know yet, but i think all the steps in your logic --

stuart: he thinks i'm nut ifs. [laughter] >> no, it's completely justifiable and makes sense. i don't want to totally agree with you, however, about the serious point really which is that we do need to have this debate about the different directions that are on offer for the country. , and you're completely correct that the california model versus the florida model really encapps lates the choice that america should make. and i'll just add to the list of horrors that we have to put up with here in the california as a result of these far-left policies. we have, unbelievably if you think about what the california dream is and what that used to be, we have the lowest home ownership in america. it is the almost impossible for people to get on the housing ladder if they're in a normal job. that is the total and direct result of the democrat policies and the empowerment of the labor unions who actually abuse environmental laws which are extreme and crazy to stop getting houses built. that's all true. in terms of the presidential

candidates, i think we should not the underestimate the vanity and narcissism of joe biden. because for this scenario to happen, he has to voluntarily step out of the race. newsom is not going to challenge him directly. joe biden has been plotting and scheming to be president since his early 20 thes, in the 1960s. i don't think he's just going to give it up. of course he should because everyone can see he's incapable of running the presidency now, let alone at the. edge of a second term. and so i don't know if they're going to be able to push him out. there's a lot of chatter, by the way, in democratic circles that biden will announce that he's not running around or soon after labor day. so this may happen quicker than we think. but i would doubt that he really would go so quietly. stuart: okay. made my forecast, and i can change it by the minute if i wish to. steve, here we go with another one. some officials in california, they want taylor swift to

postpone her upcoming shows. they want her another this in solidarity with striking hotel workers. seems to me these politicians will sacrifice taylor swift fans for the unions. what's going on? >> of course. they're totally controlled by the union. they are completely owned by the unions, the california democrats. we saw it to horrific effect, of course, during the pandemic when they refused to stand up to the unions and open the schools. and we had the earliest and thest and the worst school closures in the country with disastrous consequences for the lives of millions of california kids. not just them, but -- then, but going forward. so we see that in every area. housing and house building, as i mentioned earlier, every single area the unions dominate. this is, of course, a ridiculous example where they're weighing to in on whether a massively successful and loved star should perform her shows. but the most ridiculous thing about it, when you talk about democrat poll decisions calling for taylor swift not to play in

los angeles, the leading one is running for governor. she's the current lieutenant governor. guess where she was the other night? she was at the taylor swift concert here in the bay area. is so it's fine for her to go but not the people of los angeles. it's completely ridiculous. stuart: just stunning sometimes, isn't it? it just takes your breath away. steve hilton, thanks very much, sir. >> great to see you, stuart. stuart: gotta get back to the markets, some red ink. down 90 now on the dow, down 19 on the nasdaq. let's bring in jeffrey small who's going to join us to rook at the markets -- look at the markets today. specifically, i want jeffrey to look at apple and amazon which report hate this afternoon. start with apple. everybody who's got any shares in the market surely has a small piece of apple, so thing counts. what to you see happening this afternoon? >> well, we see an earnings decline for the fourth quarter in a row, stuart. and is, you know, that doesn't

change the fact that apple's stock has gone up 50% year to date. but it's only 10% above its all-time highs. and so this is a great opportunity for investors to buy apple. when the mega-cap rally comes back to find its legs and earnings per share finally start to increase by way of fed action, it's time to buy apple on these dips. let's not forget that they're also reducing 4% of their float on an annualized basis in a very aggressive share repurchase policy. stuart: where where do you see apple going? if you're right and there's a dip here, i know the mega-capitally comes back, where does apple go? substantially above 200? >> well, i think when it gets its earnings back next year, the earnings projections for next year are 2024, so this is one of those really rare occurrences where their present if earnings don't really matter. the street wants to know what's the guidance look like, and and right now it looks like 10%

growth for next year with their buybacks and lowering rates and continued expansion of their sales in emerging markets. we see a price that runs to 225-230 by end of next year if they meet their guidance. as far as the market right now though, we know it's very overheated, things have risen quite rapidly, and and right now everybody's bracing for a little bit of consolidation and some pullbacks which are happening as we speak. stuart: okay. give me 30 seconds on amazon, because they report, and if i think you've got a target price of $150 # a share. 30 seconds, sir. go. >> i do. amazon's got almost the same problem as apple except their top-line number is growing, their net earnings are not. so we expect them to report a flat net earnings result today. once earnings per share start to increase, now's a great time to buy amazon because they're 40% below their all-time high. so there's a lot more room to run on amazon. as their earnings will change when rates drop and they stop

the continued expansion exexpense from all of their warehouses and investing in their businesses. so their projection for earnings next year, stuart, is very, very big. they're going to have a huge turn-around in earnings next year, and now's a great opportunity for amazon to get involved and buy the dips. stuart: jeffrey small recommending dip buying again. i like to hear that. we'll see you again soon, thank you. lauren's looking at the movers, and we're going to start with regeneron which is up. lauren: yep, 6.3%. drugmaker. strong or earnings, and wall street very excited about an earlier than expected approval of a higher dose of one of their eye medications, so positive commentary. stuart: shake shack. why are they concern about rising beef prices? lauren: because they sell burgers mostly. they sell chicken and hot dogs too, but anyway, fry costs are going up also. that's the bread and butter -- stuart: fry costs? lauren: french fries.

potatoes. oil. stuart: the cost of frying something. lauren well, maybe, but they're talking about the food. how are they saving money? i've started to see more of those kiosks where you order for yourself. they missed when it came to revenue i and same-store sales. they grew 3%, wall street was expecting 5%. the stock is down 6%. stuart: i don't like those kiosks. i want a human face. lauren: i know. but when you're waiting on a really long line, the kiosk is amazing. stuart: southwest airlines, i think they're down. lauren: downgraded to sell. the low cost carriers like southwest are struggling compared to their larger peers. stuart: okay. tease. this is where where we tell folks what's coming up. lauren thank you. stuart: i've not read this first. lauren: cold tease. cold read. you're a professional. stuart: tom brady is now part owner of a football team. english football team, that is. lauren: what? stuart: brady admits he doesn't know much about soccer, but he

does know about winning. good story and we've got it for you. some republicans raising questions about the timing of the trump indictment. they want to know why it came out just 24 hours after devon archer's testimony on the biden family. a report are on that for you. a new push to finally get answers about our botch withdrawal from from the afghanistan. republicans want the state department to release are all a classified information that they think proves the white house knew it would end in disaster. congressman darrell issa leading the charge, and darrell issa is next. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ stuart: house republicans pushing hard for the state department to release classified intelligence about the botched withdrawal from afghanistan. congressman darrell issa, republican, california, is actually leading the charge. sir, you're on the foreign affairs committee. it's been two years. i want to know what happened in afghanistan. can you get the answers for us? >> well, we have the answers, but the public doesn't. we've been able to read almost unare redacted classified briefing about the people who were on the ground who completely disagreed and predicted exactly what happened. so the public needs to have that. we've called for the declassification, we see no reason other than maybe the names of the people who were involved, we see no reason for the public not to know that the administration was told with specificity exactly what was going to happen, and it happened.

and now they pretend it was a surprise, they want to turn the page, gold star families are still suffering, and they don't have the answers. stuart: you've seen this report. you've seen this information. but, of course, you can't spell it out to us because it's classified, and it's not been released yet. a lot of people suspect, and i've heard this is very common in society, that socially the biden administration -- essentially, the biden administration knew it was going to end in disaster. they knew it. i don't -- you can't necessarily confirm that, but can you dance around the edges of that? >> oh, absolutely. they knew they were going to leave 100,000 people behind including a large amount of american citizens. they knew that they were not informing our allies who were still on the ground. they knew that bagram was -- and we've had this in testimony -- bagram was where with we should be based if we were going to withdraw, not a dual purpose public airport. we knew that we could not defend

the, if you, the embassy. all of that has now come out in sworn testimony. what we want to do make sure that before we turn the page the families, the tens of thousands of americans who fought valiant hi there and our allies have answers and an assurance that this won't just happen again and again each time with a there's nothing here when there is something here. stuart: do you have to go to court to get this information out public, or can you just rely on votes to get it out? >> well, a combination of subpoenas and pressure are going to get these things out. the problem with the biden administration is that on day one they tell you let us investigate, stay out of our business. on day 365 they start saying it's old news. this is not old news to the families who lost their loved ones, it's not old news to the hundreds of thousands of americans who served in afghanistan and when feel like

they've been -- their work has been abandoned unnecessarily. so we know that we can't turn the page without disclosure, and we're not giving up million we get that. stuart: it's been two years. it's time we knew the truth. congressman issa, thank you, we appreciate you being here. thank you, sir. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: trump, as in donald trump, was indicted 24 hours after the damaging interview with hunter biden's former associate devon archer. chad pergram with us now. do republicans feel the indictment was kind of used as a distraction from hunter's scandals? >> reporter: they the absolutely do. and this is the triplet from the closed door -- transcript from the close door interview on monday. it focuses a great deal on, quote, the brand. devon archer told the committee the brand was the biden family and that delivered value to burisma. now, in the transcript archer said ukrainian natural gas oligarch lieu he sky face pressure from ukrainian

authorities during an mg. archer said they wanted hunter biden to help relieve some of that pressure. archer said the biden name was key to the survival of burisma. archer told house investigators that, quote, people would be intimidated to mess with burisma because of the brand, the biden name. this is what enrages gop members especially on a day like today. >> so if you're sitting at home and you're mad, you have a right to be mad if. when it come toes to donald trump, there are no rules. when it comes to joe biden and hunter biden, they get away with almost everything. >> reporter: archer told committee members hunter biden put his power on the phone 15-20 times. democrats contend the speakerphone conversations were innocuous. >> over the course of 10-year relationship, hunter may have put his father on the phone with

any number of different people, and they never once spoke about any business dealings as he described it. >> reporter: there was also a discussion of a 14 2,000 wire -- $142,000 wire transfer to hunt hunter biden for an expensive car, either a fisker or a porch. stuart? stuart: chad, thank you very much, indeed. see you later. back to the markets, please. i still see red ink but not that much of it. in fact, the nasdaq has now turned positive, it's up 17 points. dow down 46, s&p down 7. turning around just a little. next case, former new york city mayor with, that's michael bloomberg, criticizing the administration over remote work. kelly o'grady has this story for us, and she's actually staying us with for the hour. what's the story? >> reporter: he's basically saying the president broke his promise that he was going to get federal workers back to the office, and he's saying

washington's a ghost town, right? no surprise there. and that it's hurting taxpayers. he penned op-ed in "the washington post" and said the pandemic is over, excuses for offices to sit empty should end too. some people argue remote work isn't a problem for government workers. so i actually took a look at the data, and he has a point. so the first quarter of this year most federal office buildings were less than 25% -- stuart: less than 25? >> reporter: it gets worse. six buildings were less than 9% occupied. i couldn't believe that when i saw it. and, you know, his argument is that remote work breeds poor performance, disengagement, and government agencies are not known for being great to begin with. stuart: that's extraordinary. staying away from the office. with biden -- it was biden who said he's going to get them all back to work, right. >> >> reporter: exactly. over a year ago. they're not. 9%. stuart: what happens next? lauren: on average?

>> reporter: they looked at a week in january, february and march in the first quarter, and that's what they found. stuart: some of these buildings are less than 25% full. that is an amazing statistic. kelly, thank you very much, indeed. one of the stars of netflix's reality show love is blind says he's struggling to find a job, and he's blaming netflix? lauren: yeah. the reality show love is blind. nick thompson is his name. he was a contestant on that show, and he says he made $10,000 for the 10 weeks it was filmed, no residuals. and he lost his job, he was vp of marketing, his company had laid off several workers, he was one of them. but it just happened to coincide with negative headlines about him in the show. so he's applied for 400 jobs, can't get one, blames the show for no one taking the him seriously, and he says he's two mortgage payments away from being homeless. stuart: that's tough. gotta say -- lauren: shouldn't he have maybe signed a better deal with netflix? stuart: if he could.

lauren: $10,000 for 10 weeks, no residuals? stuart: are they open to negotiation? i don't know that situation. maybe the guy needs an a agent. thanks, lauren. take a look at this. thieves smash glass cases, they steal nearly a million bucks 'worth of jewelry in california. happened in broad daylight. the police sergeant says it's clear these crooks don't think they'll get caught. we've got a full story for you, full report. on saturday hundreds of libraries across 44 states will host an effect vent call see you at the library, and it's already getting pushback from groups on the left. christian actor kirk cameron inspired the whole event. he joins me next. ♪ ♪ ♪

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brady's old stomping grounds. we're showing you tampa because brady just became a minority owner of birmingham city, a british soccer club. listen to this. >> you're asking what do you know about english football, tom? >> well, let's just say i've got a lot to learn. but i to do know a few hinges about winning. stuart: birmingham is a second tier english team which finished 17th last season. brady's now involved, let's see what happens. lauren: birmingham. stuart: in america it's birmingham. lauren: i know, i did that once on this show, and you and ashle- [laughter] stuart: give me the movers. robinhood up or down? the. lauren: it's down. it should be down 6%. so first-ever quarterly profit. wall street's not impressed because -- and the profit was because of higher interest rates boosting their net interest income, but their monthly active

users declined, now they have 3.2 million active users, and that is fewer than last year. stuart: virgin galactic, aren't they close to their second tourist launch? lauren: august 10th. their second ever commercial voyage to the edge of space -- stuart: why are they down? lauren: because they're not charging as much per ticket. it used to be each paying passenger paid $400-500,000. now that's been essentially cut in half. maybe they're making half as much money. why are you laughing? start stuart discount space trip, sign me up. half price sale, come on. what's wrong with that? [laughter] tesla. lauren: we found a winner, they're up a sold percent. remember we were talking about the $24,000 potential india-made tesla? is we're getting closer to it. stuart: i do remember that. lauren: a meeting happened last week between the commerce pinster of india and senior -- minister of india about setting

up a plant in that country to produce a cheaper car and sell it in india and everywhere wells. stuart: well, that will help the stuck. 25 the 6 on tesla. thanks. let's get to the crime crisis in california. see this video? thieves broke into a jewelry store, smashed up all the displays. kelly, how much did they get away with? >> reporter: almost a million dollars, 900,000. this is just yet another smash and grab jewelry store in irvine, california, and the boldness here is what is so shocking. you have to watch the video. it's playing right now. this is 12 p.m. on a monday. customers are in the store, these three thieves in masks and hoodies are aggressively smashing, and they're got these big trash bins. they're putting all the merchandise in there. they hopped in a getaway car. no one was hurt, thankfully, but no arrests have been made. they do think it's possibly linked to other jewelry smash and grabs in the area. but the reaction of the store owner, they said that there's no solution but law enforcement.

and i think that's really powerful. i mean, we've been reporting on. the police have been defunded in california. how are they able to deal with all of this? stuart: you live in los angeles. do people feel threatened by crime on a daily basis not just in the street, but at the mall and other places? >> absolutely. there was someone held up at gunpoint outside my building the other day. and it was -- they had followed the person home, you know, from a nightclub, very nice watch, and they just, yeah, they did that. it happens everywhere. stuart: is this a pervasive feeling of fear in los angeles? >> reporter: there is because the police have been defunded, they know that people are just going to end up on the streets. but the thing is people keep voting for these policies. i just don't understand it. stuart: that's true. do you think i'll live long enough to see a republican win statewide election in california? don't answer me -- [laughter] spare me that one. thank you very much, indeed. well, welcome to new york. be careful.

[laughter] great to see you. lauren: just as bad here. stuart: kelly, it's great to see you. have you seen much of new york's homeless population and migrant population as you walk around? >> reporter: definitely the migrant population but not as much as in los angeles9 with the homeless. stuart: moving on, the nationwide see you at the library event is happening saturday, 44 states. already getting some pushback. kirk cameron inspired this event, and he joins me now. kirk, riley gaines, i understand, is going to be one of the speaks at the event. is that the source of some of the backlash? speakers at the event. >> no, i think it goes much broader and wider than that. this is a nationwide event that's actually being spearheaded not just by me and brave books, but by over 300 parents, grandparents who are hosting their own brave story hours in public libraries, and is we're expecting thousands at each of these libraries. and the pushback is coming from the progressive machine.

this is the american library association that is conspiring to teach librarians how to break the law and block good families from from coming to their public libraries to read stories of virtue to their children while simultaneously promoting drag queen story hours. so they're not about diversity, they want a monoculture. they're not about inclusion, they're trying to exclude me and thousands of good families. so this pushback's only adding fuel to the fire. it's an incredible event this weekend. stuart: it is, indeed. you're a christian actor and author. are your books -- i hate to use the word banned -- are they banned from if libraries? >> well, there are certainly those who would like to exclude them from the their libraries, but there are many, many more, millions more who are in this country that want to get back to the values that led to our blessing and our protection. so 300 libraries, 46 different states, and we have state

senators like marco rubio and ashcroft and others along with state governors, mayors, pastors, county commissioners all in support of this and special surprise guests are going to be flying together with me to three of these a libraries to drop in and surprise these story the thyme hosts in -- storytime hosts in texas, and tennessee this saturday. see you at the library. and we want everybody to go to bravebooks.com to join in on one of these events is and support brave books. stuart: bravebooks.com. is that it? bravebooks.com? >> that's right. stuart: that'll give me information on the libraries and what's happening and where. kirk cameron, you're all right. god bless you, and i hope this thing comes off well. >> thank you, sir. thank you. god bless you too. stuart: indeed. i think he already did. take a look at this, a doctor knocked unconscious by a homeless man. it was a random attack in portland, oregon. she says it's the city's fault for defunding the policement we've got the full story. donald trump due in court

today to answer criminal charges related to the 2020 election. a series of court appearances could drag on for the next 18 months or more. that could give trump a long-running soap box. grady trimble at the courthouse. the full story next. ♪

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stuart: back to the donald trump arraignment which will be in federal court this afternoon. grady trimble's outside the courthouse in d.c. what are we going to see, grady? >> reporter: stu, we think this afternoon will unfold in a similar manner to the former president's first appearance and arraignment in south florida in the classified documents case just a few weeks ago. it's likely going to be a quick process. we're expecting the president to arrive here in the afternoon. he'll have his fingerprints taken, enter a plea on those four new counts related to his actions after the 2020 the

election. finish republicans, for the most part, are rallying behind the former president. >> after devon archer gives his testimony, every time something happens then they come back at trump. so they're using this to deflect and distract strategy to try to say look at them, don't look at us. >> reporter: several of former president trump's opponents in the race for the gop nomination have expressed concerns about what they consider to be a two-tiered justice system. notably though, former vice president mike pence is blasting his former boss. but even he has doubts about the case against trump. >> i don't know if the government can meet the standard, the burden of proof beyond reasonable doubt for criminal charges. president specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes.

>> reporter: authorities have been ramping up security around the courthouse throughout the morning. there's barricades behind us, we've seen police officers do sweeps with dogs, k-9, and it's important to note where we are to give you some perspective, stu. you can see the capitol from what i'm standing right now. the white house is only about a mile away, and the former president has expressed concerns about where this trial could take place here in d.c. he doesn't think he'll get a fair trial here, and he has floated the idea of moving it somewhere else, possibly as he suggested, stu, virginia. we'll see. stuart: got it. thanks, grady. we've got another of these polls, a new one, what people think about the ethics of the biden administration. spell it out. lauren: it's a gallup poll. stuart: oh, that's legit. lauren: yes. 8% say his ethics are excellent, 34% good, that's 42%. meaning the majority, 5 a 5%,

say his ethics and those in his administration are poor or not good. why is the story important? ethics ratings typically mere your -- mirror job approval ratings, right? and he started his presidency signing an executive order on ethics and high standards and not having conflicts of interest. which makes me think of one particular -- stuart: and he would fire anybody who was nasty to their employees. got it. lauren: yes. [laughter] stuart: all right. moven on. bill maher blasts liberal cities for how they're handling homelessness and the migrant crisis. you've got to watch this. roll it. >> it's just a good example of could everybody just stop the posturing, you know? >> uh-huh. >> you're full of [bleep] and we can see that. stuart: i'd love to know what he was drinking. jason rantz lives in liberal seattle, and he wants to get in on this debate, so we'll let him. jason rantz is next. ♪

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stuart: california crime. what happened when robbers tried to tale from a 7/eleven? -- to steal? this is a great story. you've got it, kelly. >> reporter: they beat this guy up. stuart: a ooh, look at that. >> reporter: i know. he had been grabbing all sorts of tobacco products and what no- stuart: good lord. >> reporter: this thief thought he was going to get away with it. they started whacking him, i think he whacked him a 25 times, the robber screaming in pain. he finally agrees to give up. the employees did contemplate calling the police. they decided to let him go empty-handed, but he reportedly asked for a soda for the road that he could take with him after all of that, the audacity. i will point out, we've covered this a lot, when you steal less than $950 in california, that's not a felony. lauren: so why didn't he sue the workers for beating him up? stuart: he will. [laughter] there's got to be lawyers watching this program who are going to be on it immediately.

sue him! sue the employees, sue the store. hook what they did to my poor client. beat him up. next one with, it's for you,. kellyily. in oregon a woman attacked, knocked out, took police a while to get to her. she's not blaming the police. >> reporter: no, she's blaming portland. so this woman, she's a doctor. she was walking with her friend. a man, potentially homeless, he chucks this aluminum bottle at her, knocked her out cold. and you can see on the video from fox digital, completely unprovoked. and you can see the woman go down immediately. when she came to, blood pouring out of her face. she called 911. it took 20 minutes for the police to even be dispatched. so she gave up. she just went home. she didn't think they were coming. the average wait, by the way, in portland, 23.7 minutes. the highest in over a decade. listen to what she had to say. >> i to do not hold the police accountable for this at all. i hold our city accountable for

defunding the police and making it, you know, we're in this situation where we don't have enough police force to protect our citizens, and we did this to ourselves. >> reporter: stuart, we were talking earlier, why don't people change their voting habits? he did. she said 100% because of crime in portland. lauren: she's a victim. stuart: kelly, thank you very much, indeed. let's move on to bill maher. he's ripping can democrats for how they handle the crises in their cities. watch this. >> and it's just a good example of could everybody just stop the posturingsome don't pretend that you love migrants so much and then when we send them to you, you don't like them. you know? >> uh-huh. >> you're full of [bleep], and we can see that. liberalism is for the sake of humanity and compassion, can we get these people off the streets. and and woke is how dare you ask them to move, this is their home. >> they have rights.

>> no, it's not. [laughter] stuart: that's good. that's good stuff. jason rantz, the guy on the right-hand side of the screen. jason, you're from the uber-liberal city of seattle. is bill maher right? >> he is 100% right. and it's not even a debate. we know as a matter of fact at this point that that's exactly how these liberal leaders view both migrants and the homeless. he got into two two separate issues. so we've had how many examples now of individual mayors or county executives or governors say we are a state that welcomes you with open arms, and then the second that they show up, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we can't really handle this, this isn't fair. we should be putting them down in texas. this is kidnapping from florida. they've been consistent in this. and when it comes to homelessness, of course, they say that they're the ones who are compassionate. the problem is their compassion kills people because it means people living out on the street surrounded by human waste, surround by used needles. this is not a healthy place to

live. stuart: just a few seconds ago we had a woman on who was attacked in portland, oregon, knocked out. she blames the city for the defund the police, and changed her voting. are we going to see more of that? >> i certainly hope we'll see more of it. we're starting to see a lot of it. in san francisco, for example, there's been significant pushback. in portland we've also seen that. we had our primary results come in yesterday here in seattle, some mixed messages. it looks like the incumbents right now are in reasonable positions when they should not be. but the folks who were soundly rejected were a lot of the folks who are far to the left and the ones who moved forward to challenge these incumbents, they're mostly moderates, at least moderate by seattle standards. so we'll see how this shapes up in the coming weeks. stuart: you know, jason, we keep sitting here listening to these horror stories. we expect change but it's not really coming very quickly, is it? >> no. and that's the problem. so it takes a really long time

to get to a place where we're all happy, where crime is under control, where drug use is down, where homelessness isn't a huge issue. but just like that overnight it can implode. and it's going to take the exact same amount of time to get back to where where we were because a lot of these problems are cultural changes. stuart: yeah, that's true. >> and when the culture shifts, yeah, it takes a while. stuart: you could always move, jason. there's plenty of room wherever. >> that's true. stuart: jason rantz, thanks for being with us. see you again soon. now then, how about the thursday trivia question? i'm surprised by this one, to be perfectly honest. i'm really surprised. how long is four score and seven years ago? come on. 47, 87, 127 or 167. the answer -- if you get this wrong with, there's something wrong with your education eful we'll be back "right answer, and you should have it. ♪ath ♪ they collect hundreds of data points like hrv and rem sleep, so you know all you need for recovery.

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how long is four score and seven years ago. kelly, don't get this wrong. >> it is 87 but i give credit to caleb. stuart: caleb, your husband. lauren: you told me they answer. i don't want to think about it. you told me before i could think about it. feel like i am cheating. stuart: it is obviously 87 years. abraham lincoln famously used it during the gettysburg address. 1863. >> referring to what year. if he said it in 1863 what year -- 1776. stuart: friday feedback, send it in, varneyviewers@fox.com. time is up for me. thanks to everybody for being here. coast-to-coast starts now.