♪ larry: well, as the republican house goes for expanded subpoena power, joe biden is going to have to start answering questions. he's in a heap of trouble. gonna have to deal with it. and liz macdonald's going to be all over this and other stories. elizabeth: yes, we are. how is he going to handle it in the debates, you know, larry? it's going to be great tv. fox news and fox business

debates for the republicans. we've got this breaking news, thank you so much, larry. coming in right now, democrat joe manchin just now says he, quote, absolutely is thinking about leaving the democrat party. he's also slamming biden's inflation reduction act as ineffective. he helped write it. and will house oversight subpoena joe and hunter biden? that's ramping up. new reports, senator bernie sanders who tells everyone to pay their fair share, he siphonedded off hundreds of thousands of his own campaign cash to a nonprofit run by his wife and stepson. and gop lawmakers demanding answers to new evidence the fbi targeting catholicses as domestic terrorists. more widespread than what the fbi had revealed. we've got congresswoman cath cam mack, former home home depot ceo bob far delhi, gop strategist ford o'connell and fox news contributor liz peek. i'm elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪

♪ elizabeth: thank you for joining us. look who's back with us, republican house majority win -- whip, he's tom emmer, also on house financial services. what do you make of joe manchin saying he absolutely has thought about leaving the democrat party, and he's making fun of the inflation reduction act. >> yeah. well, remember, he was the, he was the, one of the great hopes that america had to stopping that inflation-bursting boondoggle that was the inflation expansion act, is what it should have been called. and remember, he is one of the ones that was against it, and he ultimately ended up voting for it, and now he's going to try and look back and say this is terrible, shouldn't have happened, and he just -- joe manchin, you can't rely on him. elizabeth: okay. well, that's the word on that. now this. [laughter] what are republicans going to do about inflation, tom? we've got the republican debate coming up.

inflation came in less than expected, 3.2, but it's now trending back up. so how are republicans going to stop 7% compounded cumulative -- 17% compounded cumulative inflation under biden? >> well, it's a great question, and it's one we've been answering for the last seven months. but first, i know that the cpi today said it's increased about 3.2, it's not been tamed, you get all these stories that are being spun. liz, bottom line is since joe biden took office, we are, inflation, we've seen a 17% increase in prices and a 3% decrease in wages. 70% of americans tell you that they can't keep up with inflation when it comes to the sticker shock they're seeing at the grocery store and at the gas pump. and what is this president doing? he's going out and touting this as bidenomics. this is what's causing the problem. i mean, think about it, liz, you've got americans who are doing whatever they can to stay afloat.

we now have $1 trillion in american credit card debt, first time ever in our history e. look, republicans have been talking about this since the beginning of the year. we've not only been talking about how you've got to control spending because spending is what drove this thing, they flooded the marketplace with dollars, but they also attacked energy. and all of the above with energy policy is what this country needs to make sure that we can, our entire economy is based on having abundant, efficient and affordable energy from all different sources. and this administration's been killing a sector of the energy industry for the last two years. republicans passed a bill that would deal with that, with permitting reform, with making sure that we could access necessary energy resources all across the country so we could restore american energy independence which is what this administration has destroyed. elizabeth: yeah. >> so those two things, you control the spending, you deal

with the energy costs, and you will start to see inflation come under control. elizabeth: i mean, this is political strychnine, right? it's stagflation, you know? i don't know why the president is touring the country saying, as andy buzz ifer the points out, thank me for bidenomics. that's the definition of insanity. nothing hollers inflation being right in your face than when you fill up the gas tank. it's more than $70. it's not hard to understand why recent polling is showing americans are saying no to bidenomics and they're saying, you know, he wants four more years, but the u.s. is going in the wrong direction. what are you going to do to help middle class incomes not keeping up with middle class life sometimes? what -- lifestyles? we hear about u.s. energy, totally understand it. how are you going to bring prosperity in the u.s. economy? we're flatlining at about 2.4% growth, that's about half the average we've enjoyed since world war ii. >> yeah. and part of it, liz, is the growth rate, that 22.4% -- 2.4%,

you can't get an answer out of the administration as to how to quantify how much of that is private sector growth versus how much of that is government growth because they include both in it. so the 2.4 might even be misleading when you talk about main street businesses across this country. republicans have had this answer, we talked about the energy, we talked about getting spending under control, but the other thing you've got to do is you've got to free up these entrepreneurs by allowing them to keep more of their hard earned dollars, giving them certainty in the economy on what to expect so that they want to start new businesses on main street across this country. because small business is tomorrows' big business. it is the -- tomorrow's big business. it is the backbone of the u.s. economy, and right now those entrepreneurs are not getting a green light from this administration. in fact, they're getting just the opposite and the president traveling around trying to sell bidenomics, it's either he is absolutely ignorant of the fact that he has caused a 17% increase in prices and a 3% do

decrease in wages over the course of his term, or he knows it and hits an outright lie, liz are. are. elizabeth: you know, he's not talking about how -- he's going to celebrate the anniversaries of the inflation reduction act, not talking about how that act has paid for 87,000 new irs workers and new irs agents to go after those small businesses. it's the one-year anniversary of the act next week. what are republicans going to do to countermessage against that? against the anniversary celebration? >> well, the anniversary celebration, the beauty of it is i think americans are smarter than this administration gives them credit for. i think americans understand what this administration has done is everything the wrong way, and they have fueled this runaway inflation. they've fueled the, frankly, people who are worried about the future. if you look at a recent cnn poll, liz, it says that the public trusts republicans in the house to handle the most serious issues facing our country more

than joe biden. really it's going to be making sure that we continue to tell people -- elizabeth: yeah, but i've got to say this, i've got to jump in. i understand, but, you know, the republican messaging is not getting out there. we've talked to voters, we've talked to people as much as we can about how republicans are going to push back on this agenda that has basically flatlined u.s. growth and paralyzed a a lot of small businesses. we just came out of a pandemic shutdown a couple years ago, and then there's an x-ray blanket of the government put on top of the u.s. economy by this biden white house. so, you know, it just feels kind of anemic messaging out of the republicans, you know? we're going to hold people accountable, we're going to get to the bottom of things, you know? there's corruption in the biden family scandals, we're going to get to that in a moment, but it just seems like the messaging is kind of bereft here for the republican party. [laughter] >> well, i would argue that maybe that is for the republican party, but from the republican house it's very clear that the

public is looking for people who will lead and who will govern. the republican house in the first seven months has been a passing legislation to address all of these concerns and, quite frankly, we've been dragging the administration in some cases along with us. it just isn't there yet where these democrats will acknowledge that they have completely crashed this economy. and and that their policies are destroying one of the best economies on the face of the planet. as soon as they get to realize that is the issue, then they'll start coming along with us, and we can move. but i would argue, liz, that we are giving the message by showing that we can govern. and the question's going to be when are americans going to stand up and say we've had enough of this. elizabeth: majority if whip tom emmer, come back soon. >> thanks. elizabeth: look who's back with us now, former arkansas governor mike huckabee. good to see you, sir is. we haven't seen you in a while. glad you're back on the show. you know, governor, we've got house oversight chair james comer telling maria bartiromo he

will subpoena both joe and hunter biden. we've been saying this on our show for the last week or so, you know, congressional investigators say, yeah, they can do that, but the biden family machine has stonewalled and blocked the fbi, the doj, the secret service, the irs. and the biden family attorneys, don't you think they're going to blockade on subpoenas? >> if you remember the movie "fakedded gun" and leslie nielsen, there's a seen -- naked gun, and there's a scene where he's standing in front of all these explosions and there's shooting and everything, just chaos, and he says to the crowd, there's nothing to see here, let's move along. [laughter] there's nothing to see. that is the white house right now with all this stuff exploding behind them, and and they pretend that there's nothing there. well, there's a hot there. there are -- a lot there. there are bank records, there are whistleblowers, there are sworn after a davids x there are people -- affidavits, and there are people who are coming forward under oath telling us

what's happening and james comer's pile of bank records, pretty compelling. elizabeth: you know, jonathan turley points this out too, e-mails discussing hunter and his father's use of joint bank accounts to pay for expenses. one account was used to pay joe's taxes. also hunter complained he was spending half of his earnings to pay for his father. and this story rethat surfacing, the obama white house has been -- resurfacing, the obama white house has been inoculated against all this, people haven't been talking about this, but let's show again the e-mails out of senate homeland security. then-vice president biden's top aide kate bedlingfield was e-mailing talking points to obama's state department about how to talk about hunter biden's business partner, the ukrainian oligarch who hired him to sit on the board with, that guy faced corruption probes. so he, hunter biden is not a lone wolf, governor huckabee. the biden team, the obama white house were doing triage on this.

spending taxpayer resources to help hunter biden's business partner. >> it's so hard for anyone to even digest that the press is ignoring this. how can they? there are documents after documents after documents that show an extraordinary sense of knowledge of all these business deals. and joe biden continues, even yesterday telling fox news' peter doocy, oh, no, i've never really dealt with that, that's a lousy question. no, it's a great question, he's just a lousy answerer. one of hunter's business partners when to went to the white house and to the vice president's home more than my uncle went to the buffet at golden corral -- [laughter] i'm telling you, this is just an extraordinary chain of events in which there's no way joe biden was unaware of his son's business dealings, and he attempted dinners at the café

milano, one of the nice tony restaurants in georgetown with some of those business partners and foreign actors. elizabeth: yeah. >> so i know his memory's bad, i know he doesn't even know what day it is, but, by golly, i think he knows that he is aware of his son's business. elizabeth: personally, i would take the golden corral over cafe milano any day. [laughter] you know who was on to this? watch trump in the 2020 debate. watch this. >> why is it, just out of curiosity, the mayor of moscow's wife gave your son $3.5 million -- >> that is not true. >> what did he do to deserve it? >> none of that is true. elizabeth: yeah, there are shell companies that reported that influx of money, so senate reports showing that. so you know what the other story that's to coming in, governor? i want your final word on this. daily caller is reporting that then-vice president biden's office -- just sit tight, sorry. going to get to this. the office got burisma to take down photos of then-vice president and devon archer from

the burisma web site. and we've got watchdogs pointing out joe biden had dinners, as you point out, at d.c. restaurants with oligarchs from a around the world that were including russian billionaire yelena bat arena. >> i think it's like when you have this terrible disaster, a flood or a fire, and they say we'll fix it just like it never happened? i think think the biden team's whole attitude is just like it never happened. it did happen, liz, and someday they're going to have to be held accountable. when everybody thought donald trump was just blowing smoke, turns out he was breathing fire. elizabeth: got it. governor huckabee, you brought fire to that segment. thank you so much. it's good to see you. okay, we're staying on this story, biden telling america to thank him for bidenomics. inflation's going in the wrong direction. also this debate, will house oversight subpoena owe and

hunter biden -- joe and hunter biden? that fight is ramping up. more bernie sanders funneling money, campaign cash, hundreds of thousands of dollars, to a nonprofit run by his wife and son? and we've got this story, we're talking, by the way, high salaries there. congresswoman cat cam mack from house government weaponization subcommittee, demanding answers, new evidence the fbi was targeting catholics as domestic terrorists, and that may be more widespread than what the fbi revealed. also on deck former home depot ceo bob nardelli, soll wisen burg, ford o'connell, fox news contributor liz peek. all this coming up. ♪ ♪

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elizabeth: look who's here on the news coming in from the house government weaponization subcommittee, congresswoman kat cammack. taxpayers want to know what are their tax dollars being used for? the news is republicans on house judiciary ramping up a probe that they've got proof that multiple fbi field offices in l.a. and portland joining the richmond office in manning to target traditionalist -- planning to target traditionalist catholics as, quote, violent extriceppists and potential domestic terrorists. shouldn't they be focusing on

real terrorists, dozens of them trying to cross the border? >> oh, my goodness, liz, there's so much to cover here. great to be with you, first and foremost. but, yes, we have director wray lying to congress saying that there had only been one directive and one field office, that it was rogue, that it was a one-off situation. but yet the timeline and all the evidence through the transcribed interviews that we have conducted point to the fact that this was a direct ty from the washington -- directive from the washington office that was carried out through multiple field offices. this is a fundamental attack on americans as we know it. the free odom of religion -- freedom of religion is a fundamental right of our constitutional republic. and when you have catholicsing with -- catholics being targeted by the fbi as potential extremists which, by the way, it was not the pro-lifers that were fire bombing pregnancy crisis centers or going after the churches, it was those on the pro-abortion side after the roe

v. wade ruling that were targeting those individuals and those organizations. elizabeth: they were -- you're saying they were targeting, you're saying the pro-abortion crowd was targeting the pro-life crowd with fire bombings, is that what you're saying? >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, we saw that -- elizabeth: there were no, you're saying there were no attacks from pro-life groups, pro-catholic groups on abortion clinics. is that what you're saying? [laughter] >> i don't ever recall a time where that has happened. but i know that we saw the fbi sending in s.w.a.t. teams to arrest 82-year-old grandmothers who were praying outside of planned parenthoods. that seems a bit excessive to me especially considering that my husband is a s.w.a.t. team member who he himself said that is ridiculous, that is absurd, and these types of tactics are completely being used -- abused. that is weaponization of government in a nutshell. elizabeth: again, u.s. taxpayers are stick ask -- sick and tired of being overtaxed. they're done with it.

and d.c. the's wondering, they're wondering what's going on, what are you spending the money on, and the debate is whether fbi director christopher wray even knew what was going on, because you're going to hear him say this. watch. >> what's the difference between a traditional catholic and a radical traditional catholic? >> i'm not an expert on the catholic orders. >> well, your fbi wrote a memo talking about radical traditional catholickingss. i just want to know if you can define it for us. >> you're referring to the rush monday product which was a single product by a single field office which, as soon as i found out about it, i was aghast and ordered it withdrawn and removed from fbi systems. elizabeth: but then the fbi was redacting documents, so, i mean, this white house said it was going to be the most transparent. we understand that christopher wray preceded this white house, but again and again, you know, the voters out doctor are saying, what are you doing with our money? >> yeah. no, liz, you're 100% right. when you talk to any american on

the street i don't care if they're republican, democrat, independent, they are hurting. i spoke with teachers today who were saying that they had on the first day of school kids coming to class with no school supplies because their parents can't afford it. we have an open border crisis that is flooding our communities with drugs and people who are putting a strain on the social services. if businesses can can't fire -- find help if they try, and yet we have all these handouts, and under biden's watch $11 # trillion in two and a half years has gone out the the door. elizabeth: let's stay on this for a second. you brought up the border. we've got the massachusetts governor, we've got the new york city i mayor saying, please, you've got to help us with the migrants flooding into our cities. the projection is new york city's going to spend $12 billion, that's triple what the initial estimate was, over the next three years dealing with the migrant crisis. so again and again voters out there are saying you voted these guys in. you voted them in, they touted

and were saying we're sanctuary cities and states, and now they're saying, wait a second, we can't handle the flood. and you know who pays for it? you know who pays for it? it's the u.s. taxpayer, and it's not fair. final word. >> listen, liz, you heard me say it before, i'll say it again: you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes, and in this case, the voters in those blue cities and statements got exactly what they voted for -- states, and now they're reaping the consequences of that. i think it's time that people walk up and realize the importance of '24. elizabeth: it's wild now that democrats, even the media's turning on biden over this. congresswoman cam act, thanks for joining us. we've got more on house oversight chair comer saying he will subpoena joe and hunter biden, and we're talking to gop strategist ford o'connell. politicians capitalizing on their government jobs. new all rights senator bernie sanders, who tells everybody to pay hair fair share, he

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as a phenomenon. >> look, i, i always worry about the influence peddlers in washington regardless of part affiliation. i've spent a lot of my time in congress working with on how we bring just more ethics. elizabeth: whoa. that's elizabeth warren. influence peddling, unethical. go ahead. >> look, the house oversight committee has done great work over the last month, and they've really caused the democrats to move the goalpost. but notice she said it was unethical. she the didn't say it was illegal, and sheen hasn't admitted -- she hasn't admitted it's foreign bribe arely and potential corruption. they're spinning like pin wheels in a hurricane. elizabeth: got to say potentially, right? we don't have the evidence, the links right -- >> that's exactly right, these are allegations, yes. elizabeth: but we're on the story, and we want to stay on this story. she's talking about unethical stuff. let's go to this, democrat

socialist senator bernie sanders, he keeps telling everybody, you know, pay your fair share is. he reportedly siphoned off $200,000 from his campaign cash and sent it to a nonprofit run by his wife and stepson? what do you think of this? >> well, for a guy who claims to be against corruption and tax cheats and greed, he certainly doesn't seem to have any issues with skirting the laws on this front. the idea of using campaign funds to a pass-through to pay your family members, that seems to be a federal elections commission law violation because you can give donations to charities, but it cannot benefit the candidate. and when you are paying the salaries of your family member, you're benefiting the candidate. elizabeth: so where's the federal election commission on this? ford, we're digging into documents and reports, this isn't the first time senator sanders, it happened in 2020, his presidential campaign reportedly sent $350,000 to that

same nonprofit. that happened in, like, april 2021. >> that's exactly right. this is not the first time this has happened and, obviously, the fec is being controlled right now by biden people. but i think what's kind of comical here is that bernie sanders hit hillary clinton over the head for doing the same thing, and now he's doing what hillary rodham clinton was going on -- doing on a smaller scale. it appears the sanders institute, it doesn't do anything. it doesn't give away a great deal of money. what it seems to be doing is enriching bernie sanders' family members. elizabeth: yeah. it gives a lot of money many salaries. something like the nonprofit burned through nearly 40% of its donations on salaries and what it was taking in, i mean, senator sanders' stepson reportedly made nearly $260,000. that was about 40% of the money it raised in that particular year. >> and based on what we know, liz, not only is what senator sand sanders doing an fec violation, this might also be an

irs violation in terms of how the sanders institute is a 501(c)(3) and functioning. but once again you know the irs only targets conservatives. it never actually keeps liberals honest. and we've seen this over and over, it's not just hillary clinton it's not just bernie sanders. we could also be potentially looking at the biden institute. what do you think the chances are thish s rs is going to do what's good for the goose and the gander? elizabeth: we haven't talked about this in a while, ford, but, you know, when there's the economic theories that are out there about capitalism versus socialism, the democrats often think there are more, you know, saints in socialism than in the catholic church. and you look at socialist systems, they're kleptocrats. they go in and do insider-ism to benefit themselves. the sanders family, you know, he's faced charges of nepotism the in the past. we remember atlantic magazine reported when sanders was mayor of burlington, vermont, he put his wife on the burlington city

payroll and sent campaign cash to her company back then. >> well, bernie sanders has had a lot of folks on the left fooled for a very long time, particularly with his brand of socialism. you do not get three homes and a foundation that you're paying your family through. it is now time to be honest, liz, for bernie sanders to pay his fair share. elizabeth: we'll see if he does. [laughter] okay. ford o'connell, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, liz. montana elizabeth we've got corporate legend bob nardelli, the former ceo of home depot, chrysler, top official at ge, on what andy puzder calls the, quote, fiscal insanity of biden saying to america thank me for bidenomics as inflation going in the wrong direction. coming up on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪

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elizabeth: e okay, our next guest when he speaks, people sit

up and listen. he's bob nardelli. he's the former ceo of home depot, chrysler, top official at ge. it's good to have you on the show, robert. thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> thank you for the opportunity. i look forward to it, thank you. elizabeth: we've got andy puzder, he's making the point, you know, biden is touring america, telling america you've got to thank him for bidenomics. inflation is now trending back up, robert. it's going in the wrong direction. we get it, it's at 3.2% if for july, less than expected, but all in it's compounded 17% cumulative under biden. >> yeah. you know, i can't imagine a more contrasting comparison of biden economics and reaganomics, right? i can't imagine picking anything that would be more of a little bit of a joke to try and compare those two together. inflation is continuing to hurt us almost in every dimension you can think of. you know, i deal with fortune

100 companies and middle market companies. we had a board review the other day, our interest rate's gone from $2 million to $14 million just based on the fed rates going up like that. if you think about fuel can and food which is not the part of what the core number is that you talked about but, again, that's continuing to cripple the average consumer out there. credit card debt is now being used for staples, right? so we see almost a trillion dollars in credit card debt. if you think about some of the policies that are being introduced, it's déjà vu. if you think about what they just introduced on gasoline miles per gallon, 66 miles per gallon, this is back to the obama with era with the cafe standards. think about how many fuel, gas-fueled cars are on the road today. almost 280 million. and here's what happens, liz, is the policies can't tell a consumer what to buy. what happened is the average age

of the ice engine, internal combustion engine, is now over 12 years. so you can pour all the money you want into electric vehicles, and the consumer's going to make the decision. we've got a fragile grid out there today that isn't going to be able to handle if, in fact, we do reach those kinds of levels with the electric vehicles. again, another obama throwback. gee, let's get rid of incandescent lightbulbs. it's just absurd, some of the things that are being proposed out there. and the only part of the administration that's doing anything on inflation are the feds. let's get back to energy independence. let's get back to lower rates. let's get back to having a geopolitical position where where we can export lng and we could really continue to be the dominant economic -- can. elizabeth: do you feel -- we just had majority whip tom emmer on. he's saying the republicans have that messaging. do you think it's getting through to the american people? >> well, i see a glimmer of hope

that the oppression that we've been living under this administration are now starting to get their voices out, and the key to this thing is, i said it before, we have to keep all these issues on the table; immigration, inflation. if you think about the economy, liz, it's really a service economy now, not the traditional production economy or manufacturing. where are all the jobs going? airlines, hospitality. think about this, think about this, the teamsters talked about an unprecedented wage increase for ups. so i sent a note out and and i said that's going to inflate inflation, number one. number two, when they go to air-conditioned trucks and fuel economy, the fuel efficiency gets worse, so you're going to see a third of the packages out there today with price increase. then you're going to see another bump off of yellow that's filed for bankruptcy because the teamsters couldn't come together. you've to got the uaw now wanting a 40% increase in wages and, oh, by the way, let's not

work friday. let's see if we can make cars from home. [laughter] it's just absurd, what's happening to our economy today are from where we were. it's just unbelievable. elizabeth: we need to bring the excitement, the fire, you know, the passion for capitalism, prosperity as larry's talked about too. we have been talking about it here too. and, you know, it just feels like a gigantic x-ray blanket put on the u.s. economy under this biden white house. bob nardelli, thanks for joining us. we'll have you back on very soon. >> thank you very much. elizabeth: coming up, fox news contributor liz peek, does the white house now have a gender pay problem? they're paying female workers less than male workers when they're lecturing u.s. companies to do equal pay? this is an embarrassment for this biden white house. let's check in with our friends dagen mcdowell and jason chaffetz, they've got "the bottom line" coming up. dagen: look who it is, that's right, jason chaffetz is here. also congressman ryan zinke on america last in joe biden's

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elizabeth: looking who's here, fox news contributor liz peek. okay, this news, liz, out of aei. the white house pays female workers less than men? [laughter] >> well, actually, liz are, it's a little more complicated than that. on average, white house workers who are female are making less than, on average, men. but really what we learnedded from this is that all the sloganeering and sound bite treatment of complex issues like disparity in pay between men and women really don't serve the public very well, and that's unfortunately what this administration is all about. there is no gender disparity that can be easily sum ised up by discrimination -- summed up by discrimination against women. it's a very complicated issue where women go in and out of the work force because they're also having children -- elizabeth: yeah. >> -- they an want to work part time, all kinds of issues. but, you know, liz, this is an

administration in 2019 "the washington post" wrote an article about how joe biden had a problem with women. women didn't like him. men liked him but women didn't. so they kind of adopted all these policies and procedures and slogans like going after gender disparity in pay even though they're not really true. and so it's another sort of phony bidenism or bidenomics issue, if you will. it's not genuine. elizabeth: yeah. it's just like lecturing everybody, right? >> of course. elizabeth: standing up at the podium and lecturing. you know, what's going to term this race, liz, again and again you and i have talked about it, it's the kitchen table. and when you look at reuters, it's polling, liz. nearly 7 out of 0 biden voters -- 10 biden voters, democrat voters say the economy is either worse or where it was back in 2020. so these are red flags firing off all around the nation that, you know, biden wants four more

years when we've got monmouth, emerson, u-gov, reuters ipsos, cnn. you also see it out of gallup. the majority of americans say the u.s. is going in the wrong direction. bidenomics is bad, bad for america, but he's touring the nation saying thank me, it's great. >> yeah. i mean, they're just lying, liz. they lie about all the statistics like the most obvious example, two. one is that he created 13 million jobs. honestly, you don't have to be an economist to know most of those jobs were simply recovering when we got out of covid. i mean, it's ridiculous. and number two, the idea that he's brought the deficit down $1.7 trillion, fitch just downgraded the united states' long-term debt because our deficit is soaring through the ceiling. it's all so phony. finish and, you know, i think americans are on to this. i think americans understand that this is not a truthful president, and he really doesn't

really mean much of what a he says. so they know the reality, thaw live it every day when they go to the grocery store. and, by the way, all this happy talk about bidenomics and filling, you know, seeing inflation go down, what's happening now is that oil prices are going up because of joe biden. and people are not going to be happy when all of a sudden gasoline prices are again taking a bigger and bigger share of their budget. elizabeth: you know what? enough of beating up on america. enough of beating up on who this u.s. economy has been. enough of america last. you know, can cut it out. you know, i'm telling you, this is going to be a bellwether, this 2024 race. liz, you're going to be watching the debates to see if the republican candidates can pull it off. liz peek, it's good to have you on the show is. so much of the news is coming out, and we need liz peek on it. still ahead, we've got former white water deputy counsel sol wisenberg, he's

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white water deputy counsel sol wisenberg, he's one of our show favorites. so are l, okay, james comer, house oversight chair, he says he's going to subpoena both joe biden and hunter biden. what do you make of that? >> what i make of it is he's probably never going to be able to successfully subpoena joe biden while joe biden is the president. and second, he can certainly subpoena hunter biden, he's got no special protection, and hunter biden will have to show up. and i expect unless his criminal matters are completely wrapped up that hunter biden will invoke the fifthth amendment. elizabeth: that's interesting. what if hunter biden doesn't show up? >> oh, he won't be that foolish. i mean, he saw what happened to steve bannon and peter navarro when they didn't show up. you cannot do that. you can challenge all you want in court, you can invoke what amendment you want, and you can litigate that. you cannot have a valid subpoena and simply fail to show up.

that gets you if trouble. elizabeth: when you saw house oversight releasing even more information from bank records and treasury documents that basically show the biden family income keeps going up and up, now it's surpassing $20 million, comer says it could hit $30 million, 40 million, when you see the numbers going up, what was your reaction? >> i haven't studied closely the latest figures, but when you see both the amount of money going, going up and if you see the various llcs that are created starting late in the obama administration, again, it raises questions why do you need to create 10, 15 different llcs unless you're trying to hide the flow of money? going to be very difficult without more, and we don't know what the prosecutors have found or if they're even looking, going to be very difficult to find a crime there. that's why i think the focus in terms of people who want to see criminal justice results should

be on the tax case that we've been hearing so much about. but listen, it is a -- i'm not the kind of person that wants to so see my political opponents necessarily and automatically charged with a cream. it's -- a crime. it's certainly a matter of grave public interest. and as you know, liz, this was not new. this was publicly brought with up in 2015 when joe biden was sill the vice president, how awful it looked for him to be sending a anti-corruption message if in ukraine at the same time that his son was on the board of a notoriously corrupt company. burisma was known as notoriously corrupt as far back as 2015. so it's really shocking that this wasn't more of a public issue way back when. elizabeth: yeah. and now senator elizabeth warren telling cnn, that yes, influence peddling like this is a problem, saying stuff like this is unethical. and, you know, in 2015, in and around that time, hunter biden with blue star centrals was

advocating for burisma whose corrupt founder was under investigation in obama's state department. you know, jonathan turley -- let's talk about the tax issue. jonathan turley points out discussing hunter and his father's use of joint bank accounts to pay for joe's exfences, one account used to pay for joe's taxes. there's also hunter biden's text complaints that he was using half of his own earnings to support his father. so when you're getting your expenses paid for, you're in constructive are receipt of income if under the irs cold. you should be reporting that on your income if taxes. this is a white water problem that hit basically bill and hillary clinton when madison guaranty, they basically forgave their loan. there's a tax problem here. we've got to see what the tax returns are for these hlcs and how much -- llcs and how much joe biden profited and benefited. is this an avenue of legitimate probing for the house to do, house gop? >> oh, absolutely, it is a he

psychiatry mate -- legitimate area for the house and for law enforcement to be probing. and i think it's a lot more money potentially than was involved if terms of forgiveness than was involved in white water. but it's a critical point that you're raising in the turley race, because there's so much information coming out that people forget that there is evidence that, including hunter's text complaints, that he's actually having to pa pay. you know, joe biden is getting the benefit of this money that hunter is getting, so that's incredibly important. elizabeth: yeah. cashing in on the obama white house. sol wisenberg, we'll have you back in. it's good to see you. tomorrow, congressman russell fry, jeff van drew, joe concha and much more. thanks for watching "the evening edit." i'm liz macdonald. it's time for dagen and jason chaffetz. watch "the bottom line." dagen: thank you, lee -- e-mac. [laughter] ♪

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