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larry: you know, on this immigration business, keep the bad out, let the good in, but we must regain control of our glove country. that's really what -- beloved country. that's really what have to do. and, of course, everybody's got to turn the dial and watch liz macdonald. elizabeth: nothing like a larry kudlow toss, the best in the
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world. [laughter] you know, where is the supply chain of common sense, how about that, larry? we're going to stay on it. larry: thanks, lizzie. elizabeth: see you soon, i hope. former president trump, the indictment in georgia, this story. more co-defendants now moving to get their case into federal court. will trump follow in and the justice department pushes for a speedy trial before trump is possibly reelected, but, you know, this isn't about politics, right? and more on the expanding biden family corruption probe, we've got it. and maui residents in hawaii outraged president biden compared mass casualty wildfires to his own small kitchen fire where he almost lost his corvette. plus he touted build back better. and it is the showtime. the fox republican debate's tomorrow night. plus this story, major wall street banks today confirm what we reported, the government did overstate job growth created under president biden. and the new york times out with a scary story, a record number
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of near-collisions of u.s. airplanes at u.s. airports, this is happening nationwide way more than realized. so where's pete buttigieg? i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening you would admit" starts right now -- the evening you would admit starts right now. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: okay. grab the popcorn, the fox news republican debate's tomorrow night at 9 p.m. eastern time, the candidates ready to rumble, about to light it up. but they better watch out. you can never underestimate how smart the voter is. we hear from you all the time, from you. you tell us you get it, you're on it, you want common sense fixes. there's a shortage of that in d.c. the latest polling numbers hoe show this: voters are not buying what this white house is selling. grady trimble live with the story in milwaukee, wisconsin, where the debays will be held tomorrow night -- debates will
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be held tomorrow night. >> reporter: hey, liz. and our polling indicates that the economy is the most important issue for voters not only here in wisconsin, but across the country. a lot of the voters we've talked to are eager to hear what republicans can do about the current state of the economy and how their plans for it differ from bidenomics because the fact is voters are not pleased with the state of the economy under president biden. in our latest fox news poll, 8 in 10 say the economy is in bad shape. more than half of voters say president biden has made the economy worse, and some here tell us they feel it every time they buy food and fuel. >> just came out of the grocery store. inflation is a big one. where this whole economy has gone is not good. >> reporter: how do you feel about the current state of the economy, if you had to, you know, rate it? >> if i had to rate it in on a 1-10? >> reporter: sure. >> probably, like, 4, i don't
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know. [laughter] right? it's not good. things are very expensive. >> reporter: so you can expect to hear the eight candidates on that debate stage bring up those kitchen table issues like inflation and the economy. it's resonating with voters in wisconsin. some of the folks we've spoken to, they say they haven't made up their mind yet, that it could be changed, so that's going to be very important tomorrow night on the debate stage. we also want to point out, liz, that exactly one week ago last are tuesday president biden was here trying to make the case for bidenomics. now tomorrow night it is republicans' turn to propose the alternative. we will see whose vision for the economy stands out. elizabeth: really interesting stuff, grady trimble. thank you so much. it's good to see you. and it's also good to see again former u.s. energy secretary, former texas governor rick perry along with former utah congressman jason chaffetz. gentlemen, thanks for joining us tonight. first to you, rick perry.
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biden continues his strategy of heavily-scripted appearances. he's saying give me four more years. seven out of ten say the u.s. is on the wrong track. what do you think of what you just heard from grady trimble? >> well, before i touch that, these gaffes that the president keeps making whether it's talking about the fire at his home, relating that to what happened, the tragedy in hawaii, his son coming home in a flag-draped coffin, the idea the that our economy is booming, that one is not a gaffe, those are just flat-out lies. and the american people, as we heard earlier in this program, are smarter than what the mainstream media often are giving them credit for. so they're going to sort this through. this economy is, it is tragically headed toward a recession, i think. i know there's people that say, oh, no, we're going to dodge this. when i see gasoline prices -- i
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was out in california this last weekend, and well over $5 a gallon, i mean, like, way north of $5 a gallon. right here in the tate of texas i paid upwards offing you know, $4 a gallon for premium gasoline. that's the facts. the grocery store prices are going through the roof. you go down just to buy a hamburger, i mean, i don't know how a average wage earner is making ends meet and, frankly, they're not. that's the problem. elizabeth: yeah, that is the problem, jason, what rick perry just said. but then you have the president out on the campaign trail in maui, or you know, jason, thousands lost loved ones including entire families, their homes and possessions. at least 114 dead, at least 850 missing, many of them children. you know, jason, they lost everything, but biden decides to compare that with a fake story about a fire in his kitchen that the associated press says was put out in 20 minutes? talking about how he almost lost
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his corps corvette and his kitten, his cat? watch this. >> i don't want to compare difficulties, but we have a little sense, jill and i, of what it's like to lose a home. years ago, now 15 years ago, i was in washington doing "meet the press." it was a sunny sunday. and lightning struck at home on a little lake just outside of our home to. elizabeth: come on, jason. hawaiians are asking how do you compare losing a corvette to children burned in their homes and cars? you know, he's been trying to sound relatable. he comes across as a selfish, pathological narcissist. and then he touted build back better, jason. >> that was a sad moment because i think the country's mourning, those hawaiians are going through one of the most horrific things you can possibly imagine. more than 100 dead, hundreds missing, an untold number of children that are missing, they lost everything. the president shouldn't have been speaking about himself at
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all. it just shows how completely out of touch he is. it was a moment that the nation needed -- there's only one president. we all need to rally behind him in times of tragedy, but unfortunately as you see there, he spent most of his time on the beach prior to that, he was late in getting there, and hen he couldn't show the compassion needed. the people on the ground need help, and they're not getting it. elizabeth: what jason just said, rick perry, americans want september 12th. they want to come together. they want that convening moment where the president says, yes, we are all americans. we're not democrats, we're not republicans, we're americans. gold star families who lost loved ones during biden's botched withdrawal from afghanistan are saying to hawaiians, you know, join the club. he told them his own son beau died in a wreck. beau died of brain cancer in 2015 of at walt walter reed.
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this was stale in 1985. go ahead, rick. >> yeah, true. i mean, you're just, you're reinforcing everything that the american people understand out there. they know that the economy is bad, they know that this president's not addressing these issues, they know he's dodging the truth. and standing up in front of the american people and just flat out lying about those types of things, you know, it really degrades the relationship between the president of the united states and the citizens out there. and i think that's one of the things -- you talk about trying to bring this country together, this administration is spending its time trying to pull us apart, blaming everything on climate change, blaming everything that they can every time there's a storm it's climate's fault. i mean, the american people understand that we need to be, you know, doing everything that we can to make sure we live in a pleasant climate, but this
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laying to blame everything at the foot of climate above all else is just nonsense. elizabeth: got it. jason, wrap it up. >> it was a sad moment for president biden and our country. it shouldn't have happened. i just, i want those people to get the help. that's the most important thing at this point. elizabeth: exactly. and quinnipiac and new york times/sienna, they have biden now polling in the 30s. you've got to wonder what's gown to a happen with this election. gentlemen, thanks for joining us tonight. it's great to have you on, hope to have you back soon. it's good to see you. >> thank you. elizabeth: let's bring in former deputy assistant attorney general colonel tom debris. tom dupree. former president trump says he'll be at that jail in atlanta for his indictment thursday in georgia, but two other co-defendants -- what do you think the of this, tom? we've got former d work j lawyer jeffrey clark, former party chair david schafer, they're
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filing paperwork to transfer their case out of state court to federal court. can trump do that? >> well, let me put it this way, if those guys can do that that, then trump presumably should be allowed to do that. liz, it's kind of an interesting decision at least so far trump is not attempting to do this. it looks like he's going to go to atlanta and surrender rather than try to fight that process and propel his case into federal court. i do think those guys who are trying to get the federal judge to basically say they don't need to surrender for now, they've got an uphill battle. wouldn't surprise me if the federal judge basically said, hey, guys, i'll hear your arguments later, but for the time being, you need to go surrender in atlanta. elizabeth: you know, so, tom, you think the former president could do that, is that what your thinking is on this? >> well, my thinking is that he could make that request since these other guys who i think have less compelling arguments than former president trump
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would to make that a request are presenting that request. that said, it doesn't mean that the federal judge would grant former president trump that relief. he's apparently prepared to surrender already in atlanta, he's not looking to get some sort of 11th hour order from a federal judge that would prevent him from having to go to atlanta. so, yes, he could present that request, but as to whether or not a federal judge would actually grant it and prevent him from having to go to atlanta is a more difficult question. elizabeth: that's really interesting, what you just said. you know, former president trump, the campaign dates are going to clash with his court dates, and you've got the dusty department -- justice department pushing back against the former president's request for a 2026 trial date. let's put that full screen up there so the viewer can see it, digest what's going on. they want a speedy trial before the 2024 election. trump is saying april 2026. the judge is going to have a hearing, trial date hearing august 28th.
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i mean, if do to j prosecutors get their way, trump would face two federal criminal trials before the 2024 race. >> well, that's right. i mean, look, as a practical matter you cannot have a defendant who's expected to be in two courtrooms at once defending himself against two criminal charges at the same time. it can't happen. there has to be some sort of coordination to insure that former president trump and in cases where he has co-defendants, his co-defendants, get a fair trial. so that means either the judges, prosecutors or someone need to coordinate to prevent everything from all unfolding at the same time -- elizabeth: wait, stay on that. >> -- completely impossible. elizabeth: you're saying there's constitutional a issues, fair trial, due process rights here for the former president in terms of how these trials are unfolding. that he needs time to prepare, is that what you're saying, tom? he could invoke constitutional rights? >> absolutely, liz. as could any defendant. in other words, yes, he is a former president of the united states, but that doesn't mean
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that he's not entitled to the same constitutional defenses, the same right the a fair trial as all other criminal defendants in the united states. elizabeth: got it. tom dupree, you're terrific. we'll have you back on soon. still ahead, congressman french hill and jeff van drew, the federalist's margo cleveland and hal lambert. this story coming up, are those botched covid mandates coming back? we've got about a hundred u.s. universities reinstating them. they weren't so state of the art the first time around, these mandates. plus, major wall street banks including the top economist at jpmorgan chase confirming what we found at "the evening edit." what we reported to you. the government did inflate and overwith state the number of jobs created under biden. that's coming up next on "the evening edit." ♪
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elizabeth: we're so excited to have back on the show congressman french hill from house financial services. it's good to see you again, congressman. okay, i'm going to slow-walk this, all right in i'm going to walk this through for the viewer and everybody out there. jpmorgan economist daniel silver and charter bank analyst steven englander, they're now agreeing with what we reported that the bls did inflate u.s. jobs number
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under biden by about 650,000, silver says half a million jobs through the 12 months, through this past march. and the point is, congressman, that's only those that time frame. the numbers could have been overstated even more. >> well, liz, it's great to be with you. i don't have a doubt that that's overstated base on looking at the numbers -- based on looking at the numbers. but look at the other aspects of bidenomics. how about a 7% mortgage rate? there's a real winner for families this fall. or the fact that families are spending an average over $500 a month more than this year for the goods and services last year. how about that for back to school shopping savings? our families are hurting under bidenomics which has created more tax, bigger spending, bigger budget deficits, enormous debts and around our kitchen table it's more expensive to have a meal or try to buy a
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house. elizabeth: democrat economists, former treasury secretary larry summers, jason furman if under obama, they said don't throw hot money, trillions of dollars, into a locked-up economy just recovering and still reeling from pandemic shutdowns that were so botched that the u.s. should never go through again, because that was the worst thing and the dumbest thing that america ever did to itself, and those leaders who did it should never be elected again. and now newt gingrich is saying, to your point, that bidenomics is fueling inflation, that there's an affordability crisis for homes and certainly for cars. i mean, you look at the deficit spending, biden is second only to president jimmy carter in modern inflation rates. look at those numbs we're showing the viewer -- numbers. i mean, it's now 16.9% since biden took office, congressman. >> yeah. it's 40% high. we're back to inflation we saw urn carter when i was graduating from -- under carter when i was graduating from college into a
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terrible situation for our families to fight inflation. and, look, former treasury secretary harry summers, a democrat worked for obama and for clinton, absolutely right. the work done by joe biden to spend an extra $6 trillion over the last two years on top of all that spending during covid has driven this inflation and probably the most pernicious thing about it is it makes jay powell's job that much tougher e. when he goes out to jackson hole, wyoming, this weekend with the fed board of directors and other economists, they're fighting how do they get inflation under control when you're fighting this fiscal stimulus that larry summers warned about in realtime back in to -- 2020? elizabeth: now we've got the average 30-year mortgage rate at 7.48%, nearing 8%. that's the highest level in about 23 years. but what are republicans going to do to stop the spending this fall? there's now the threat of another government shutdown. how can you stop it? >> well, the first thing we have to do is pass our appropriations bills and take advantage of the
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fact that we negotiated a $2 trillion spending cut. the first time that fiscal spending year over year-over-year would decline in well over a decade. we have a cut in spending for fiscal '4 that we're proposing -- '24. we need the senate's support on that to send it to joe biden s and we capped spending 1% a year for the next six years. that plus regulatory reforms that house republicans proposed, that help keep us headed in the right direction and get us back to sanity. $#. 7 trillion deficits -- 1.7 trillion deficits per year is not sane. elizabeth: we've never been here before. congressman hill, thank you so much for being with us tonight. we needed your input. >> great to see you, liz. elizabeth: okay. we've got this story coming up, the expanding biden family corruption probe. we've got top fbi and irs agents subpoenaed to testify. and are those botched covid mandates really coming back?
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elizabeth: okay, let's get you updated on this because there's a lot of misreporting going on. the white house is expected to push nationwide updated covid booster shots starting the second half of september. covid hospitalizations nationwide since june, they're now down 75%, about 0,000 nationwide. -- 10,000. again, that's not good, but this is versus the same time last year. covid deaths down about 90% versus the peak of, you know, last winter's wave. but now we're hearing college students, some of them may potentially get kicked out if they're not vaccinatedded? hillary vaughn has the story on capitol hill. hillary. >> reporter: liz, vaccine mandates making a comeback as
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college students are returning to campus or going on campus for the very first time after graduating high school. 600 colleges in the united states have vaccine mandates in place months after the biden administration lifted their emergency public health status for the covid-19 pandemic. that ended in may. but some colleges are still mandating these vaccines. one of them, a state university in new jersey, rutgers, who has a very strict vaccine mandate, they require students to apply for an exemption if they don't want to get a covid vaccine. back in 20 2021 rutgers said the people have an option to disenroll if they don't want to get the covid vaccine. we've reached out to rutgers to see if that is still their policy today. we have not the heard back. rutgers though at the height of the pandemic detailed what would happen if a student decided not to get the vaccine in a letter sent to "newsweek" saying this: students who do not provide a an
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exemption request can move to online instruction or disenroll. but even if students get a coveted exemption, on-campus activity is not guaranteed. the university guidance saying this: for those granted exemptions, on-campus participation is not guaranteed. students granted exemption, will not be able to live in on-campus housing. republicans reacting to the mandate, new jersey senator declan scanlon saying this: we now know for an absolute fact that the to covid vaccine protecteds no one except the recipient. it's not the job of anyone else to enact policy to protect me from myself and my own decisions or some perceived protection of my own self due to my own decisions. and one atlanta college has taken it even a step further, liz, returning to mandatory masking because of spikes they have seen there in covid cases. and also asking people to not
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throw any parties. we'll see if that actually works and if anyone listens to that at college. liz? elizabeth: hillary, so that's morris brown college in atlanta, right? >> reporter: yes. elizabeth: so we're back, it feels like, to where we were at the beginning of the pandemic, hillary. but the thing is, what happens if you're disenrolled? do you get your tuition back? >> reporter: i mean, that's a good question. we try to get these answers to rutgers. we've been reaching out to them since yesterday evening. they've gone radio silent because they are getting a lot of criticism for this policy. and the big question here, liz, is, is this discrimination against people who choose not to get the vaccine for whatever reason they're forced to either try to to get educated online at this university or try to find a different college. one question we asked them is, does this send a message to people that don't feel comfortable getting the vaccine that they don't have a right to higher education at your university that unvaccinated students are not welcome, we
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haven't gotten answer -- an answer to those questions. elizabeth: hillary, great reporting as always. because we miss him for the last five minutes, we've got to bring back congressman french hill. [laughter] what do you make of that report, i mean, covid mandates are coming back at about a hundred universities when the vaccines don't work? dr. fauci said in a study he co-authored they don't work because the vaccines go into the bloodstream, the covid virus hits the nation aal cavity. >> this is so frustrating. it makes me think that those people on rutgers' campus and other campuses didn't learn anything from the pandemic and that we're just going back to the pages from february of 2020 when we had no clue. we know that the vaccine might help people have less impact of the disease particularly if they're over 65 years old. we're talking about college kids. who are not susceptible to it and wouldn't get terribly ill if they got it. so this vaccine mandate is not
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the same thing as trying to prevent the spread or being cautious if you have an outbreak in a particular building or cap pus. so i don't get that -- campus. it's like we didn't learn any lessons from to -- 2020 and 2021. elizabeth: everybody knows covid is serious. you don't want to get sick, right? there's ways to prevent it, you know? but this 2019 clinical trial in jama, no difference in the rate of flu infection and covid inflection nexts between those who wore, get this, n95 masks and surgical masks. hay don't prevent are respiratory viral infection either. it was inconclusive whether masks work. if so, you know, the fact that we're hearing now possibly the biden white house in september could come down hard more on covid, what are you expecting out of this white house in september? >> well, look, this is why i think we need to have a conversation. we've got antivirals now that we didn't have at the beginning of
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the pandemic. we have a lot more people in the population that are vaccinated, but we also found that young people -- while they might have had symptoms -- were not dramatically impacted by this disease or these variants. and so i think we're potentially going back to a strategy that wasn't effective in the first place because we don't have another proposal. and i'd invite all these campuses to put their heads together and come up with a tragedy that might work that doesn't include kicking people out of school because they don't get a vaccine when they're 20 years old. elizabeth elizabeth got it. congressman hill, thanks for joining us again. >> see you next time. elizabeth: good to see you, congressman. okay, more and more polls show voters are saying fix the border, fix it now. but we've got thousands of illegal immigrants literally pouring across the u.s. border in arizona and literally through open floodgates. those are actually floodgates you're looking at. also legal expert margo cleveland coming up. top fbi and irs agents meaned
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elizabeth: well, look who's here, this is a hot panel for you, congressman jeff van drew, he's from house judiciary, and margo cleveland, smart, so sharp, both of them. margo's senior legal correspondent at the federalist. breaking news on the hunter biden probe. congressman, your committee, house judiciary along with house ways and means, you guys just subpoenaed two irs agents and two fbi agents on what they know about the hunter biden probe and david weiss claiming i think in october of last year he couldn't, he was blocked from bringing charges against hunter biden? who told david weiss to do that, to not do that? >> and that's what we want to know. and we know that it was from the inside, and we know that key
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people were involve, and that's why they're being subpoenaed, because we've got to dig in and find out the truth. this all smells bad. frankly, there's so much corruption at so many levels, and the more that we find out, the worse that it gets. and i'm hopeful, and i really believe, that it's necessary soon to move to an impeachment inquirely because all this -- inquiry because all this work we've done just standing alone is not enough. we have to find out more. the impeachment inquiry will give us the ability to find out more, more subpoena power at -- elizabeth: is that a real thing? is that a real thing? is that going to happen after labor day? >> i think there's a real chance. we've got to get some of the members that are a little resistant or a little worried about it. this is not even an impeachment, but it's the inquiry. it's about time to not be weak-kneed, that we be strong and move forward. and i think that there is a chance. and i promise you there's going to be a very thorough discussion in our caucus about this --
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elizabeth: got it. >> and again, i'm going to say the same thing, it is time to move on, it's time to have additional tools to find out the truth because i think it eventually leads to an impeachment. i hope it does. this president, this fbi director at every level, weiss himself are all in on it, and it's all corrupt. and it's all -- elizabeth: what do you think, margo? margo, what do you think? >> i was thrilled that he said impeachment inquiry. i was about to say, you know, the subpoenas are great, but we're way past that. and as he said, we don't just need an impeachment inquiry on the president, we need one on u.s. attorney weiss, we need one on garland, we need one on the fbi director. again, not necessarily impeachment, but we have to find out what was going on and who was the one who was of putting the brakes on this investigation. elizabeth: yeah. we've got ways and means chair jason smith, jim jordan, judiciary chair, saying americans deserve to know the
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truth, especially they're saying attorney general garland appointed david weiss, the same u.s. attorney, he's now special counsel, oversaw hunter biden's sweetheart plea deal giving hymn immunity if future felonies. weiss dragging his feet for five years, botching the investigation into hunter's alleged tax crimes. let's listen to ely hoenig over on cnn on this. watch this. >> first we had a basically five years of behind the scenes investigation, no transparency, no action and some questions being asked, what's taking so long, but in the last couple months we've seen a pattern here. doj moves towards a very lenient disposition, they're just about to lock it in, and then arises pressure either through whistleblower testimony or public scrutiny, and then doj backs off and says, actually, we're not going to do that, we're going to try to up it a little bit. if i'm in david weiss' shoes here, heaven help me. i would just say, look, we're charging everything we are. --
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we have. it'll go to trial and we'll let the jury decide this. i think that's the only way to restore credibility to this matter. elizabeth: he's talking about the tax evasion case, you know, and the gun charge. congressman, what is your sense? did joe biden tell a.g. garland who then told david wise to stand down -- david weiss to stand down? >> of course. now, you know, we don't have the absolute proof of that yet, but that's what we need to really find out. i mean, it's all so obvious. i mean, it's so obvious that for 20 times when hunter biden was involved with burisma and other issues as well that joe biden was right there, he was part of it. they've a made money off of it. the accounts are there. there's a lot here. there's so much to unfold. i'm going to state it in a very simple way, and i'm sorry, i'm a very direct person, these are corrupt, bad people doing bad things. and march bow's 100% -- margo's 100% right. we can't just keep having
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investigations and hearings. those are good. that gave us the information and the american people, those that are following it, the information. but we've got to move on to something with more power. elizabeth: what do you think, margo? now we're seeing reports that house oversight chair comer is saying that there's witness intimidation meaning that hunter biden's lawyers, according to "the new york times", have been lobbying and pressuring the justice department to crack down on irs whistleblowers joseph ziegler and gary shapley for blowing the whistle on the foot-dragging going on on this case. >> right. and that's actually been going on for some time. what we've learned though recently is that that's not all biden's attorneys have been doing. they were saying to weiss, you know, you don't want the president to testify. they were contacting doj headquarters to try to get somebody to intervene. and before that sweetheart deal that they gave him they had an even sweeter one that a came after someone from doj
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headquarters sat down with weiss and hunter biden's attorneys. we are long past talk, and this investigation, the impeachment inquiry, has to start. elizabeth: you're talking about the sweetheart deal where they would have droped all of the charged until the i -- irs whistleblowers. we'll have you back on again soon. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> thank you. elizabeth: we've got this scary new report from "the new york times", a record number of near collisions of u.s. airplanes at u.s. airports, way more than realized. where is transportation secretary pete buttigieg on this? plus, we've got gop mega-e donor mover and shamer hal lambert. voters say fix the border, ticket it -- fix it now. the polls show that. thousands of illegal immigrants, though, pouring across the u.s. border in arizona literally through open floodgates. hal lambert coming up. we've got to check in with our
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elizabeth: well, look who's here, point bridge capital founder, donor hal lambert. thanks for joining us. let's show the viewers what's going on at the border in where illegal immigrants are pouring across literally through floodgates. you know, hal, we've seen the polls. voters want the border fix. florida governor ron desantis, we know he faces an uphill battle. former president trump way ahead of the field. but the governor's attacking trump over the unfinished border wall, and the governor calling trump's supporters, quote, listless vessels, that's the strategy? [laughter] >> well, i mean, let's start
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with the border wall. that was president trump's signature promise when he ran, remember? that wases the number one he said, we're going to build a wall, and mexico's going to pay for it. well, neither of those things happened -- elizabeth: yeah, but he faced stonewalling and block kadinging in congress? >> well, the first two years it was controlled by republicans. so if he can't work with his own party to get funding for the border wall, then obviously there's a problem there. biden, if you want to be fair about this, if you're a far-left coastal elite, biden's been great for you. he got $80 billion for the irs, trump couldn't get a few billion for the wall? i mean, biden was able to do that with a 50-50 senate. trump had control of both houses of congress for two years, couldn't get the wall done. by the way, tim scott was in the senate at the time. i hope he's asked about why they didn't get the wall funding when he was there. meanwhile, governor desantis, he's implemented e-very fay in florida. you can't -- e-verify, you can't get a driver's license in
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florida. illegals are leaving the state and actually wages are rising for workers in florida -- elizabeth: -- but the state legislature is different from what are called r are inos in the senate and the house. that's a lot different, dealing with his own legislature. >> well, it's different because he's turned florida from a 50-50 state to a massive republican state. it's not even considered a swing state anymore, and that was all done with his being governor at the time. elizabeth: all right. let's watch florida governor ron desantis in action. let's listen to him on weak on crime prosecutors. watch this. >> they're not even trying to take fentanyl. it gets in it, and it's fatal and it's wrong that biden is not lifting a finger to stop this. so when i get in, we are going to make sure to use lethal force against the mexican drug cartels. [cheers and applause] when they try, if they try, to bring the fentanyl across the southern is border when i am
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president, we are going to shoot 'em stone cold dead. elizabeth: shoot 'em stone cold dead. wow. final word, hal. >> well, they're killing 100,000 americans a year with fentanyl overdoses. the chinese are sending it through mexico, the cartels are pushing it through. they're pushing through all the human trafficking. i mean, we have a disaster. look at the sanctuary cities now that they can't handle these illegals that are coming in. new york's panicked over it, you've seen chicago upset over this. but yet prior to this they were perfectly fine with it. look, it's very dangerous for americans. we don't control our own border. the cartels control our southern border. it's unbelievable that we've allowed this to happen. elizabeth: you know what's really outrageous, hal in that the cartels are making money off of the weak border via sex and human trafficking and drug trafficking. that's what the voters are now waking up to, hal. final word. >> yes, you're exactly right. think about all -- if you want to look at how many rapes and killings that happen along that border, and it's all because
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we've allowed this border to be open. they make more money now off of human trafficking than they do drugs. elizabeth: got it. hal lambert, thanks for joining us tonight. next up, we've got aviation expert mike boyd scare -- scary report in "the new york times", a record number of near collisions at u.s. airports, talking multiple times a week coast to coast? so where's pete buttigieg on this? coming up on "the evening edit. ".i' 'mutu ♪ $700 dollars just by switching. ooooh, let me put a reminder on my phone. on the top of the pile! oh. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ (josh allen) is this your plan to watch the game today?
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elizabeth: look who's back, aviation consultant and expert michael boyd. okay, mike, this scary to report from "the new york times", they got nasa internal documents, faa internal documents. a a record number of 300 # near collisions in a recent the-month period of -- 12-month period of u.s. airplanes at u.s. airports nationwide? where's the white house, where's pete buttigieg on this? >> look, let's be blunt, pete buttigieg is not qualified to do this at all. because with we know we've been short controllers for years, and we have airlines having to beg not to fly all the slots into new york and other places because he can't handle it? we've got a mess. and i think congress, let's face it, they're irresponsible too. they'll go just like that to send tanks over to ukraine, but you have to ask for more money for controllers, we're 60% down? this is nonsense.
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elizabeth: the near collisions happen on average multiple times a week? they're saying at least nearly 4 dozen close calls last month alone, it involves all the major u.s. airlines nation wild. >> oh, it does. a close call is one thing, but some of these are really close calls. we're talking 700 # feet with two airplanes going 200 miles an hour at each other, we've got real problems here, and it's a safety problem. and to be very honest, i ooh mean, the senate, the subcommittee that went through the phil washington fiasco when he was supposed to be the faa administrator, they're not doing anything either. and that position is now a political a position for people like chuck schumer e when it should be a safety profession. -- position. elizabeth: it should be a military position. why is it a political position? you make an important point. i mean, you see alaska airlines flight, that hard landing amid that tropical storm late sunday, people were screaming. you know, the u.s. airlines system, and i think you've said
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this too, it's the safest in the world. they handle something like 3 million passengers a day, but to see our guys and is air traffic controllers put through what they're being put through and how stretched thin they are, that's a major factor. that's not good. final word. >> it's terrible, because number one they have to retire early, they have to work six days a week. we have a real crisis on our hands, and it's not in kyiv, it's it's right here in the u.s. buttigieg is not able to address it. elizabeth: well, listen, i have another question. we've got current and former air traffic controllers telling "the new york times" that close calls were happening so frequently they're really scared it's only a matter of time until a deadly crash occurs. we don't want to scare people, we just want to let them know this is what's going orb behind the scenes. -- on we hind the scenes. how do you fix it in. >> you fix it by fixing the faa. the last guy they put up there didn't have a clue as to what he was going to do.
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we need a professional person to go in with a bulldozer and rebuild it. the fact is what we have now today is understaffed, undermanned and under-technology. until we get chuck schumer out of the picture, we're not going to have the safety levels we really need. elizabeth: it's really pathetic that our safety is being politicized. mike boyd, you're always terrific. thanks so much. we really loving having you on. i'll have you back on again soon. and please tune in tomorrow night, we're going to have fox news' bill almoster -- hemmer and also a panel of voters ahead of the first gop debate on fox news at 9 p.m. eastern time. they are ready to rumble and so are you. you've got a lot of questions that you need answered and you want them answered. thanks so much for watching "the evening edit." that does it for us. i'm liz macdonald. now it's time for dagen and sean. take it away, you guys. dagen: thank you so much, e-mac. ♪ ♪

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