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trump as a pile-on. and the white house makes a new move. it is desperately trying to separate the word inflation from the words president biden. in the minds of 2024 voters. what it's now doing won't work. plus, this bombshell, the national archives admits that as nearly 5400 e-mails and records of then-vice president biden using fake names and aliases. gop law makers wants to know did he use them to give government inside information to hunter biden for profits in also homeland security's new warning, mexican cartels now involved at every level of organized retail crime across the u.s. and more voters and wall street getting fed up with activists. is this a turning point? i'm elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ ♪

elizabeth: okay, happening right now, florida now starting to feel the impact of idalia, it's intensifying, picking up speed and power. we've got 5500 national guard troops mobilized, 2400 high-water vehicles and a dozen aircraft for rescue and recovery efforts. we want to get to fox weather's adam klotz live in the fox weather center. adam, good to have you with on. what's the bull's eye for landfall? where's it heading now? >> reporter: we're still targeting the florida big bend sometime tomorrow, but it was a category one hurricane, and just a minute ago it has been bumped up to a category two hurricane. so it's running over very warm water. we still anticipate this storm is going to strengthen, ultimately getting to a category three hurricane. winds so far already up to 60 miles an hour. remember, we're talking about this storm getting stronger and making landfall sometime tomorrow, so there's plenty of time for this to strengthen. it is still well out to sea, and

there are big thunderstorms already across or portions of south florida because of the outer bands of rain battering the shore. again, this isn't the heart of the storm, that's still yet to come. now, those outer bands could at times spin up tornadoes. with we've seen that that already happen. the entire state is under a tornado threat as we speak. this is the forecast, you asked me where it's going to go, we are tracking it going up into the florida big bend, think tomorrow morning, maybe even mid-morning, but the conditions are going to deteriorate overnight. there's a time stamp up in the corner, gives you a sense of where this storm will go. winds will obviously get much, much worse as it makes that move. here you are at 7 a.m. still offshore, conditions very tough at this point, making landfall around 1 11 a.m., maybe a little bit before. storm surge is going to be a really big issue, heavy rains are going to be an issue and the winds are going to be an issue. tracking this all the way million tomorrow morning. elizabeth: thank you so much. very important update. florida governor ron desantis

said his administration did fix a serious problem where 29 gas stations in florida mistakenly distributed diesel fuel as regular gasoline. that could wreck people's engines as they try to evacuate. the florida governor saying that has been moved to be fixed. let's turn to this story, let's bring in congressman darrell issa and the washington examiner's kaylee mcghee white. we're going to move on to this, congressman, first to you. former president trump says he will appeal the marchth, 2024, date for his criminal trial over the 2020 election. it's a day before super tuesday. congressman, where do you come down on these trial dates? lawyers say you can't make an appeal before any verdict, what do you think? >> i'm going to be candid about it, there's no harm to the american people if all of these dates occur after the next presidential election. it would be great if they could be done ahead of time so that he would be cleared, but since that's clearly not going to happen, quite frankly, the

american people would be best served by saying, look, let's put all of them until after the election, let's go through this process, let's not have a leading candidate for president be bogged down in what obviously in at least some cases are clearly politically-oriented indictments. elizabeth: kaylee, there was that new york post report that a member of jack smith's team had a pre-indictment meeting at the white house last march before trump was first indicted. what do you make of this story? >> well, they're clearly coordinating. i don't think there's any doubt about that. and i bet if you foiaed those correspondences, you would be able to prove that. you know, but back to the schedule of these indictments and the arraignments, it's not just the one that you mentioned, liz. if you look at the entire

schedule, trump is going to have to be in court at least eight times x most of those court appearances fall the day before an important election update. i don't think there's any other way to square this other than that that is election interference, and that is part of the motivation behind these indictments. elizabeth: by the way, or congressman, more in the media are picking up what kayand you are talking about.. -- kaylee and you are talking about. they're questioning pile-on of trial dates for the former president here. watch cnn. >> judges have very wide discretion when it comes to setting trial date cans, and i agree, this will be an issue donald trump will a appeal eventually, but it's cutting it really close to make donald trump in a case with 12 million pages of documents go to trial in seven months x. some of the rationales that doj offer up that the judge agreed with, i think, don't cut it. for example, one of the things doj argued is, well, he's sort of known that this was a

possibility for a year or so. finish. >> yeah. >> going back to the january 6th trials. that's not the way it works in our system. you are not on notice as a defendant until the indictment drops. you can't just say you should have known there was something floating out there. that doesn't do cut it. elizabeth: do you hear that, congressman? the judge is erroneous in scheduling this. this team has nearly 13 million pages of records and documents to prepare for the case to go through. >> well, you're exactly right. and when you look at the question -- when you have four indictments, what you really have is she sequential trials. you can't say you'll do them all in parallel because each one of them is distracting to a candidate for president. it's one thing to say, well, money can hire four sets of lawyers, that may be true, but there's not four donald trumps. there's only one. and that person has a real reason and right to be on the

campaign trail. and since every one of these charges stems from his conduct as the president, every single one of them, we're really not talking about something separate from politics. each one of these is, even though some of them are state charges, are actually related to the president's actions. and for that reason alone, it should be kicked til after the next election rather than tying him up. but if you tie him up, it's clearly politically -- it's going to make a difference in politics if the president's not on the. campaign trail. elizabeth: kaylee, final word. >> i think if you look at the timing of when these indictments were released, that's just as alarming. alvin bragg's manhattan indictment that has to do with the stormy daniels hush payment, that goes back to 2015, 2016, and yet it's being introduced the year before a presidential election. jack smith's january 6th case, this happened back in 2021, and the indictment is being introduced the year before a

presidential election. the fulton county case, same thing. trump is a major presidential contender. the timing is not a coincidence, it is the goal, and i hope the american public realizes that. elizabeth: got it, congressman issa, kaylee mcghee white, thanks for your analysis. >> thank you. elizabeth: let's bring in former treasury official michael faulkender. more and more on wall street are saying we're already in a recession. the biden white house unveiled the first ten prescription drugs that are going to be subject to price negotiations with medicare. so they're making those moves. you're going to -- we're going to show the list of drugs right now. you know, they cannot get away where -- from this debate. by the way, drugmakers are going to fight this move. they cannot get away from from this debate, are we in a recession. what do you think? >> i think we're clearly heading towards one. there's a lot of government spending coming on line are, but

if you look at the consumer-driven part of our economy, with mortgage rates at 20-year highs, you're seeing pullbacks in home purchases, you're seeing some consumer spending strains because households are hitting up against credit card limits, and you're9 not seeing wages keep up with inflation. so all of those things are headwinds that are pushing up against the ability of consumers to keep thrusting this economy forward. and so that's what's been leading us to thinking there's a recession on the horizon. plus, you've got the recommencement of student loan payments, there's a lot of challenges out there. the only question is, is there so much government spending that it off9 sets the drag on both consumer and business investment. elizabeth: so we've got president biden baffling people today. let's get your reaction to this new claim on the name of the inflation reduction act. watch this. >> two weeks ago we celebrated the first anniversary of the inflation reduction act which in a sense is misnamed. we did lower inflation, but there are many other things in

that legislation. elizabeth: so the the white house is desperately trying to separate the words president biden from the word inflation. because his presidency's now rating lower than jimmy carter in some polls or right at carter. so what do you make of them trying to rebrand it this late in the game? >> well, you know, liz, as you can tell from my previous response, i've never really been willing to call that thing the inflation reduction act because with it does no such thing. when you spend more money on something, it raises the price, not lowers it. so what's actually happening is they're spending more government money, and they in the process think that they're going to curb the implications for prices out in the economy, and it's just not going to work. and they know it x they've known it from the very beginning. but they had to try to demonstrate to the american people that they were addressing the number one issue on the minds of households which was the 40-year-high increase in prices urn this administration, and so they took their green new

deal and tried to repackage if it. of course it didn't work. as you said, heading into an election they don't want their signature initiative to be reminding the american voter of the inflation their policies have caused. elizabeth: yeah. i mean, the jobs numbers have been revised down every month since january. they're only talking about 170,000 jobs for the month of august when that jobs report comes out on friday. you know, and you've got that, you've got bank of america, goldman sachs, a lot of wall street shops saying, you know, there could be a recession, we could be on the leading edge of it. gdp growth flatlining at 2%, consumer sentiment down again, near recession levels. wall street pros talking about warren buffett piling up cash to near record levels at berkshire hathaway. your final word. >> yeah. you know, whenever warren buffett's piling up cash, i think back to his statement that, you know, when the economs greedy, be fearful. but when wall street is fearful,

be greedy. so when buffett starts to pile up cash, you know he thinks there are going to be some deals to be had. all indications are that the consumers are running out of money and with the increasing in prices and the rising interest rates, households are going to be pulling back, and that's going to create a recession sooner rather than layer. elizabeth: thanks for joining us. coming up, congresswoman nicole malliotakis, carol roth, john lonski, and homeland security's new warning, mexican cartels are now involved in every level of organized retail crime and retail theft across the u.s. this is thanks to biden's border crises. plus, just ahead former deputy assistant attorney general tom dupree. we're taking on this new bombshell, the national archives admits it does have nearly 5400 e-mails and records of then-vice president biden using fake names, fake aliases, pseudonyms.

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president of the united states sending out e-mails under a fake name? i mean, look, in fairness it's possible that there was a legitimate reason for this. i'd love to hear what it is, and i think the white house would have greater credibility in this whole situation if they had been more honest and forthright from the start about the extent of vice president biden's involvement in his son hunter's business dealings. so i hope the archives releases these e-mails, because i'd love to see what he was sending out. elizabeth: yeah, this is in keeping with the use of at least 20 shell companies to bury the cash flows from overseas from their foreign business deals. i mean, you also have text messages from hunter biden's laptop, it already showed they were using aliases for joe biden. he is repeatedly referred to as, quote, the big guy in deals with china and ukraine. >> right. there is an air of suspicion and intrigue that's going over all of this. but look, it's also puzzling to

me how the vice president could ever have thought that sending out e-mails under a fake name from a government account while he was the vice president would somehow ship under the radar screen or remain credit. i mean, this is not -- remain secret. this is not exactly james bond level of espionage. he had to know these e-mails would be preserved, saved by the government and someday, perhaps, see the light of day. elizabeth: this is a corruption issue, this is a national security issue. is in any way that the national archives can sit on this? shouldn't they release this information? we already have reports that biden's aide when he was vice president, john flynn, cc field hunter biden on at least the 10 e-mails with biden's daily schedule in 2016. >> under the freedom of information act, they have a legal obligation to release this information to the public unless they can point to something in the law that justifies keeping it secret. i suspect what's going on here, and this request, by the way, liz, was made a long time ago, well over a year ago.

and the agency seems to be dragging its feet. and i think what's probably going on here is the agency is probably checking with the biden team to see if these e-mails can be released or if the biden team wants to assert -- elizabeth: but, wait. why do they get sign-off on it in do they get sign-off -- stay with me. did they get sign-off first on the suspicious activity reports that treasury secretary yellen stonewalled on that would show that banks had red flagged to the treasury about potential money laundering and crimes in their business deals? why does the white house get to sign off on this? >> right. well, they don't get to sign off on these e-mail release in the sense that if they object that means it doesn't go out. what it means is they'd say we think there's a reason why this should be kept secret, and the national archives could decide whether that's legitimate. even if the archives agrees with them, there's no reason you can't challenge that in court. elizabeth health we don't work

for them, they work for us. nothing should be secret to the american people. the american people deserve answers on this, because now he has more than an asterisk next to his name because now he's alleged to have accepted bribery. this is coming up in the fbi documents and victor shokin thinks, yes, joe and hunter biden took bribes out of ukraine's burisma. the other thing too is, tom, e-mails on hunter biden's laptop show that that joe biden's vice presidential staff or his aides were regularly looping in hunter biden on what joe was doing. while hunter was sitting on the burisma board. tom, you know what? you're really terrific. we just want to get your reaction to how the white house is handling these kinds of questions. watch this. >> we know that from a hunter biden associate now that he sold the appearance of access to then e-vice president biden. are you confident that he has stopped doing that? >> that is a question for hunter

biden -- >> reporter: if somebody is selling, you hear -- that's a question for the white house. >> no, that is, that is your, your, i don't know, how you're perceiving that -- [laughter] >> reporter: it's sworn testimony from devon archer. >> i am just, peter, i'm just not going to get into this. i'm just not. >> reporter: what is the biden brand? >> not going to get into it from here. i'm not going to get into it from here. we're going to move on. elizabeth: tom, devon archer testified they sold joe biden as the brand in these business deals overseas. the white house needs to come clean on everything because house lawmakers are planning to launch an impeachment inquiry after labor day. so they can't do these, this kind of propaganda, this kind of dodging of questions for much longer, tom. >> absolutely. and, look, if the white house is correct that there's really nothing corrupt going on here, nothing to see here, then it's in their interest to get all this information out to the

public so the pick -- the public can see for themselves. elizabeth e elizabeth got it. okay, we have a big development that's about to hit california residents. they are going to to be left high and dry. an alarming new development, a new trend that's now accelerating. we have a new wave of insurance companies now fleeing the golden state, again, leaving california residents high and dry and potentially having to pay more money for coverage. also homeland security's new warning, mexican cartels are now involved in every level of organized retail crime and retail theft across the u.s. it's happening right under the biden white house's noses. it's coming right as a direct result of biden's border crisis. we're taking it on next on "the evening edit." ♪

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elizabeth: let's welcome back new york congresswoman nicole malliotakis from house foreign

affairs. we're getting more news coming in to the studio at this hour about house homeland -- rather, homeland security now says mexican cartels are involved in every level of retail crime nationwide. it's costing the u.s. like $100 # billion at least. and this news, congresswoman, mexican drug cartels and human trafficking cartels, they're moving into retail theft. they're commandeering in-store the theft and shipping stolen merchandise world wide. so now they're profiting in another way off of biden's border crisis. >> yeah. we know that transnational organizations are not just responsible for that, but they are also responsible for the drug operations that are all over america pumping fentanyl and killing american citizens each and every day. we also know that transnational organizes are behind -- organizations are behind car

thefts here in new york city where they are putting them on ports and shipping them to dominican republic, africa and other areas for resale. so we know that there's a9 lot of crime happening, and we also know that terrorists on the fbi watch list are caught at the border. and just today the fbi said that there are individuals that were smuggled here via isis that are in the country and trying to get to the bottom of where they are. so there's a lot of reasons to be concerned about biden's open border policy. and i wish senator schumer in the senate would take some action and pass our border security acts if the president is not going to undo his executive orders. look, we're two weeks away from september 11th, that is my biggest fear as a new york representative. have to do everything we can to protect our homeland and secure border is at the top of that list. elizabeth: yeah. you referred to the fbi reportedly scrambling to find

more than a dozen uzbek nationals who sought asylum. then they discovered, authorities here, that they were smuggled in by a smuggler with ties to eye access. now, they found -- isis. now, they found no specific terror plot, but you make a valid point here. we're just two weeks away from the 9/11 anniversary, just a a generation away from the anniversary. that this border is so chaotic and they can't track isis terrorist activity at the border? let's get your reaction to the white house on this. watch. >> reporter: how is it possible that an isis sympathizer is sneaking people into this country? >> so the intelligence alerted us to a human smuggling network. we moved fast and successfully to, successfully to disrupt it. >> reporter: are you saying that you know where all of the people this isis sympathizer snuck into the country are? >> if i could answer the question, i'm sure i'll touch on everything that you want to ask

me. so, again, intelligence alerted us of this human, human smuggling network. we believe and we moved pastily, and we successfully disrupted it. so let's be very clear about that. elizabeth: it didn't say whether they caught them, congressman. did they catch them? >> well, look, even if they caught those, there could be others because we know that there were 1.7 million gotaways that had zero interaction with our government. now, think about this, these people came in and they applied for asylum. what about the ones that totally evaded customs and border protection, our government? that's estimated, again, to be at 1.7 million. not to mention, you know, the 7 million who have entered. so, i mean, there's -- it is really a cause for concern. we have been sounding the alarm on this, and it's mind-boggling to me that any politician that lived through 9/11 would be this reckless and this careless. but unfortunately, from joe biden to chuck schumer, to all

the others who are incentivizing and allowing this illegal immigration to occur -- think about afghanistan where they closed the air base there, and we don't know where those prisoners are. were they released from the jail on that air base? do we know if they're trying to access our country through the southern border in the answer is we don't know, and that's why communities like mine are so concerned about these shelters, because there's zero vetting, and we don't know who's in them. elizabeth: got it. congresswoman mall ya a tackies, thanks for joining us tonight. a game-changer, is this a turning point? look at this, a majority of oregon voters, voters in oregon, now say, yes, repeal it. get rid of that law that decriminalized hard drugs in oregon, led to more and more crime. again, is the tide now turning? also we have wall street pro carol can roth on voters and wall street too, they're getting sick and tired of activists and activism. businesses are now backing off the woke agenda.

more wall street firms drop e e sg investment -- investing. and we've got people in nevada, commuters in d.c. saying, enough, they're fighting back against activists saying, stop it, get over it. it's coming up on "the evening edit." knox. [inaudible conversations] >> try to cuff he? i'm going to [bleep] you up. ♪ ♪

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elizabeth: well, look who's here, wall street pro and author carol roth. carol, it's good to see you. have people had enough with activists and activism? we have reports that wall street powerhouses, van forward and blackrock, are now backing away from environmental, social investing. this is fizzling pretty rapidly. are businesses done with the woke agenda? is it over?

>> i don't know if businesses are done9 with the woke agenda, but certainly consumers are done with it and investors and shareholders are are done with it because they recognize it for what it is. it's more than just being woke. it's using business social credit, it's using mafia-esque shakedown tactics to shape social and political agendas. and often times it's using those individuals' money. people is have had enough of it. i do worry, liz, i mean, i want to celebrate the win here that we're starting to get some movement, but with i am worried that this is like a game of whack a mole. you hit it, you think that it's gone, and all of a sudden it pops up urn a different name, sustainable investing, something like that. but i do think we can take a little bit of a celebration to see that the pressure is starting to pay off a bit. elizabeth: you know, we're trend spotting here, carol. you saw the moment in nevada when nevada rangers smashed through a climate protest. they were purposefully blocking

a highway to the burning manifest value. they caused a miles-long traffic gridlock, a line of cars stuck in the blistering heat, some cars are with you were children. that was a worrying situation. we're going to show the rangers in action here. carol, let's watch this. [background sounds] >> we're going to take all of you out. you better move. [background sounds] >> we're not violent! >> get out, now! on the ground! on the ground now! >> we're nonviolent! we're not violent! please, we have no weapons at all. we're environmental protesters. elizabeth: okay. people get you're environmental protesters, but the point is, carol, they blocked traffic around the world in places like europe and the u.k.

they've thrown paint at major works of art, glued their hands to the pavement. when they're challenged, they go into meltdown mode. >> yeah, i think that people are just sick of the entitlement. these people have absolutely no stake in the game, they have nothing at risk, and they don't realize that individual rights exist. but your rights are your rights this they start infringing on other people's rights. so you can have free speech, but that doesn't mean you can do it on private property, that you can block other people's ability to go about their own lives. and i think that after living through several years of having our rights trampled on and people coming in and saying, you know, i'm important, i'm entitled and you have to listen to what i say, people are pushing back and saying, no, i don't have to, you know? i have my own personal rights, and i'm going to stand upper for those rights. elizabeth: let's show the moment this past start when commuters in washington, d.c., they too clashed with activists. these activists had blocked

traffic. one community yanked banners out of the hands of protesters saying he just wants to get to work. we're seeing this going on and, carol, it's happening as we're seeing a divide between red e and blue states. it's at its biggest in modern history. i mean, we're seeing this more and more. do you see it permeating through the states, how red states are saying, okay, we just want toly our lives, go about it. other people are saying we're activists, we want to push an agenda through schools where parents' rights ea annoyingly stop at the door of the school that should not be the case. final word, carol. >> yeah, this is the ultimate battle of our time, is that decentralization, freedom and individual rights versus those who want to have central planning and a few people in a group be able to make decisions for the masses and be able to hold everyone elsest hostage to what it is that they want. this is the constant battle, and i think we need to consistently

frame it in those terms because it's not a political agenda, it's an agenda that's about individual liberties and freedom and sovereignty. elizabeth: carol roth, thank you so much. we've got this story for you, this is a big wake-up call for california. california residents faced with another new wave of insurers and insurance companies fleeing the golden state leaving them high and dry and vulnerable. plus, we've got radio host jason rantz on this game-changer, a majority of voters in oregon now say, yes, get rid of it, repeal that state law that decriminalized hard drugs. is the tide now turning? plus, we want to check in with our buddies dagen and sean, see what they got coming up next hour on "the bottom line." sean: hey, e-mac. the 2024 primary season heating up but also donald trump's legal troubles as well. we're going to talk to charlie hurt about those two things coming together.

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elizabeth: well, look who's here, radio host and the author of the book "what's killing america," it's jason raments. it's good to have you on. this looks like a game-changer. we've got a few poll from emerson, a clear majority, 56% of voters in oregon -- 71% of multiracial voters -- say, yes, get rid of that 2020 ballot niche initiative that krill criminalized hard -- decriminalized hard drugs like heroin and meth. they've got a spiraling addiction crisis in oregon and other states. what do you make of this poll? >> it's an obvious reflection on what would happen. there's buyer's remorse on measure 1 # 10 because it's been an utter failure, and you can see the failure on the streets of oregon, marley in portland -- particularly in portland. when you look at the overdose

rate between 2018 and 2022, it rose 500 percent. and the reason why it happened in multnomah county, where portland is, is because when you tell drug addicts you're not going to enforce the law, you go easy on the drug crimes particularly when you've got homelessness spiraling out of control, well, they take advantage of this. there's no incentive for any of them to go ahead and if get help. and the problem with measure 110, as we knew from the beginning, was it is based in something called harm reduction. this is a tragedy that effectively says we're not going to push treatment on people. instead what we're going to do is give them safer alternatives to using drugs, meaning here, we'll give you a clean needle because it cuts down on the rate of blood-borne diseases, or we'll give you other drug pair paraphernalia to use. you're simply enabling these addicts, and they don't really have any reason to go ahead and

get help. elizabeth: how about not doing any drugs at all in why is it that taxpayers have to to put up with these science projects from these far-left, so-called do-gooders who claim that, you know, we're folk to get more tax revenues from decriminalizing drugs, and then e we'll use that money for rehab. do you see this circuitous kind of, you know, pie in the sky thinking where other people have to now suffer what your just -- you're just saying, more and more crime from things like drug addiction and, you know, drug crimes? >> yeah. look, at the end of the day you've got a lot of folks in both oregon and washington, and really we're talking about democrat-run cities with where they have this problem, that have taken this approach that if to you criticize any of the drug addiction, you are stigma matizing the addict, and then they won't seek any treatment. it is an absurd argument that is meant to basically stifle any concerns or criticisms like you

just raised. i think that i moving towards not necessarily an an. abby:s innocence -- abstinence-only position because people are going to screw up, but going away are from offering treatment and instead just giving hem the drug paraphernalia does not work. st it's not worked anywhere. elizabeth: how come the little guy doesn't have the loud arest voice in the room? when will the little guy get to be the loudest voices in the room? the people who are for normalcy who just want to live their lives in peace and safety? oregon now outpaces the national average on opioid deaths. it's got the highest use of meth use. it is, to what you just said, clearly buyer's remorse. voters are sick and tired of it, they're saying stop it. what do you think? >> the good news is we are starting to see some pushback. when this was being introduced because it was seen as that innovative new way to attack on an issue in sort of, with a

progressive strategy, no one wanted to say no, and they very clearly were in favor of this. they got sold something that was never a reality. i think most of them did it with good intentions. i'm glad that they're starting to say, okay, enough is enough, we've gone too far, it's time to walk it back. the problem is it might be too far gone in portland in particular. and just think about all of the lives lost during this experiment to legalize drugs. elizabeth: got it. jason rantz, thanks for joining us. we'll stay on the story. >> thank you. elizabeth: for you next, top economist john lonski. there's a big trend breaking out in california. california residents are faced with another new wave, a bigger wave of insurers fleeing the golden state, leaving residents there high and dry. why are they doing it? it's because of what sacramento did. it's because of what democrats did. we're going to explain it next on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪

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no liberty mutual, will not renew the policies for businesss in california you make of this john. john: leader the basic problem you have here is a california democrats of the think abutment insurance rate inflation by imposing what appears to be a price control and that is to try to increase, premiums by more than 7 percent and it needs additional approval that can be quite costly and cumbersome and the problem of course, his a california has experience more wildfires, floods and making matters worse, would be construction related cost inflation that increases the amount of what even has to be to claimant and so the good thing is to limit a premium increase as it turns out, when you do that, only the least risky

homeowners and businesses by themselves, are still able to get insurance. liz: so is markey controls government interference, and by sacramento california that is led to this is a taxpayers lives under losing in terms of property loss and right when the seven largest wildfires in california history john a broken out since 2020 thousands of homes and businesses and buildings, destroyed and so it is market intervention and mark democrats thinking they know better than the market and at the same time, these data cataclysmic's natural disasters that are likely caused by some of them i down paralyzed breaking out john. john: also probably in europe keeping up the infrastructure and you're not perhaps heating the reality of these catastrophic wildfires as well as the floods maybe some williams also perhaps you should be building in areas that are

relatively safe from the wildfires and no need to rebuild in such areas. list of gestalt to what you're mentioning, the violation of economics 101, when you impose price controls, output will be less than otherwise had in this case, we have fewer insurance policies and otherwise but a simple reason, is yours are not about to go ahead and ensure properties where if things go wrong, they are indeed going to be facing major losses. liz: pfister back to florida may have hurricane a deli about to make landfall in florida estate back citizen pretty insurance, and it does not ensures including farmers, they stop writing new policies for homeowners in florida and so, you know, they basically are saying the state will do it and now come the state is talking and saying, that this insurer cannot raise the rates like it wanted to. john: at a problem with price

controls and fort also has a problem with litigation risk encased by ensures it is hard to believe that i've seen these numbers i'm somewhat puzzled by this but all of the means of dollars of claims paid by insurance companies in florida because of catastrophes, similar not even contest engine catastrophes in time and 79 percent we shall learn goes towards attorneys litigation and only 9 percent is reaching claimant's. as a huge problem with litigation. da.liz: what it did point and be sure to tune in tomorrow and we have a house oversight chair, james coomer we have a lot of questions for him, thank you so much for watching the evening edit and la design for dagen mcdowell and sean duffy. dagen: thank you. >> sure. da