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neil: this economy remains a piece of work, 187,000 jobs generated, more than expected, the unemployment rate at 3. 8%. we will get behind the vagaries of that, wall street trying to figure out where to go with that. first towable crowing on pennsylvania avenue. edward lawrence with the president of the united states and labor secretary at the white house. >> reporter: the president will speak at any minute, he's 35 minutes late from when he was supposed to make comments about the us economic report, more than expected, the jobs created in the economy. the unemployment rate increased which is what the federal reserve want laugh to see. the issues for the fed, a report like this, the average hourly wages are up 4. 3% year-over-year. the fed chairman has said numbers like that are

inconsistent with the 2% inflation target and could push inflation. economists also were, listen to this. even though wages are going up, they haven't closed the gap, still down 15% for something because of the inflation that happened in previous years. my view is the strong economy we are seeing now is the last gasp but the fed is nervous about it. >> reporter: the acting labor secretary telling me this morning this is stable steady growth the president wants. the past three months the economy has created only 150,000 jobs per month to the other issue is new labor department adding more workers to overtime requirements and using union wages to set fair price for government construction contracts. groups are a little upset about this. listen. >> concerned the rules are too onerous on construction companies. >> we believe that you can have an economy in which workers get

their fair share. any kind of overtime mob protecting prevailing wages, is about making sure that happens. to not have an economy where we choose between what is good for workers and what's good for the overall economy. >> reporter: some forces working against each other, the federal reserve trying to bring down inflation through these rules, some groups saying that would push inflation because of increased costs on companies. we can debate on where that bubble is. neil: good for you acting labor secretary of the united states. the new york stock exchange, how the markets are reacting. there follows a pattern which you know better than i, that initially market start off strong, they give up some of their gains, we are lucky if they see any gains at all by

the end of the day and then starting a new month. what do you make of that pattern? >> we had a very strong rally throughout the quarter and the pattern we've seen the last few weeks with you just pointed out there is some selling in the market anytime the market shows strength in the first hour or two of the day. we don't see heavy selling right now but we definitely see investors using rallies as an opportunity to like nippon suppositions particularly those stocks that have had outsized gains over the last few months. neil: october get the wrap has the most frightening month of the year but september statistically is the most problematic of all the months. are you worried as we head into this one? >> you put it correctly. september is a very challenging

year on the calendar for investors. a lot of people come back from the summer, look over their portfolios, don't have any earnings to start for another 5 weeks or so. only one fed meeting in the middle of september, pretty much baked in the cake they are not going to do anything. it will all be about their language and some people say being positioned according to the end of the year. maybe they had a nice first half of the year. you get one or two little hiccups of news in their that september has been a challenging get month historically. are we going to see that again this year? i am not really sure. we will just have to wait and a lot of these patterns we are looking at the past few years haven't necessarily held this year. i think the focus for a lot of people will be still very focused on tech and also focused on stocks subject to consumer spending.

neil: consumers have been pretty vigilant and vibrant in the face of higher rates and all that. planes are booked solid, half of us are traveling this weekend by air or car or whatever. and these bookings continued strong into the fall. a lot of pent-up demand and excitement for apple's new products must and september 12th, a lot of people seem quite willing to pay premium top dollar for them. what do you think of the state of us, the consumer? >> the old saying is never sell short the american consumer and their ability to find a way to spend. julie: are talking about more than just my wife but i know what you are saying. >> talking about all of us and all of our wives collectively, they always figure out a way and we always figure out a way

to spend. that being said there were some things in the employment report this morning that show that the employment situation is a little softer than it has been. a number of details, without getting too want cash, or may and june down 25,000 each for nonfarm payrolls but on the other side of that, that's a great report for the fed. even the unemployment rate to got from 3.5 to 3.8 is really meaningless. you and i have been around long enough to remember when 4% was considered full employment, so we are getting may be some of the tightness out of the labor market but it is still not falling apart and that still support a healthy consumer.

julie: mentioned the big development where the fed is meeting on the nineteenth and twentieth, you don't think we will see a rate move at that meeting. >> it certainly doesn't seem like it. this is, all the data inside the employment report today is exactly what the fed has been looking for not just in one report but as a trend. notice earlier in the week the jolts report trended lower. it has been trending a bit lower over the last few months. inflation has not been taking any higher. we are going to get after september another report, the september report, early october, that's two more reports before the november meeting. if we continue to see this

softness in the labor market, we take a pass through the end of the year. neil: thank you again. tim anderson following that. jeff flock from chicago o'hare natural national airport's where crowds are building for the big travel weekend. a lot of us flying, including a lot of different things. >> reporter: hello to you from o'hare, good news and bad news this morning. the bad news is there the kid in that line screaming her little head off. good news is it is going to be a busy travel weekend but not so bad. look at the numbers, the busiest summer of air travel in history according to the transportation secretary, 20 million people this weekend alone. that is going to town. 20 million people, up 14% from

last year. the good news is airline cancellations are down. the secretary releasing some numbers, he sensually cut in half from last summer. the bad news, this girl, year misses, they are up the transportation terry pete buttigieg saying he doesn't know exactly why. here's what he said this morning. >> we have seen a noticeable increase in closed calls. the only acceptable number of these is 0. there is no single cause or single issue that explains. sometimes we see issues with pilots, sometimes with controllers, sometimes we have seen an issue with ground crews. >> reporter: he says he doesn't think it is the result of not enough air traffic controllers on the job.

good news. don't know why that girl is crying because look at this number, people traveling this labor day holiday are paying less to do so. the average ticket this year, $226. that is down 11% from this time last year. neil: you know, the thing was that child was perfectly quiet until she noticed jeff flock. you handled that very well. >> reporter: i have that effect on women. lauren: 1 not going there. either that or -- can find fox business. okay, maybe not. gasbuddy.com, he knows it very well. a lot of people taking get to the road, busy travel weekend,

seemed to be paying up. is that where they were last year? what does it look like? >> we are close to what we spent last year, national average a little higher, a little lower this year than last year. the station behind me is down $0.25 a gallon. it really depends on where you are, the west coast seeing prices up into labor day, much of the rest of the and gas prices go down good news is the weekend i expect the national average won't continue to take lower. the good news is mid-september when we transferred to cheaper winter gasoline at with it a nice dose of further decreases a couple weeks away. the 20 there have been sent about supply shortages or tight supply that might disrupt the normal all pattern. you don't see that? >> at least not for now. hurricane idalia -- there's a pretty active tropics. we will have to keep an eye on that.

not a lot to disrupt what we are seeing at least for now but biggest wildcard, still hurricane season. neil: a lot of people normally when we get as high as we have been for just getting used to it, they year from do i need the supreme or high test or regular unleaded, did we see a lot of that? >> we have seen when prices come down people will start to freeze premium. a lot of people, thought regular gasoline as overall share increase as premium sales decline and see a little more of that return filling up with midbrain premium. consumers very price sensitive, filling up, they will make that jump to a cheaper blend of gas. adam: are watching closely. have a safe weekend, the head of petroleum analysis knows of what he speaks and we have an

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adam: the president of the united states is in the rose garden at the white house, with the jobs report talking about 13 million jobs under his word ship, arguing bidenomics is working with we will keep an eye on that. tomorrow he's expected the sunshine state during damaged areas with governor ron desantis. more from cedar key, 40. don't know if you have been monitoring max's incredible importance this week. this young man, how are things looking now? >> reporter: in cedar key one of the storylines is storm surge, 78 of storm surge that inundated homes and businesses. the winds, this gas station behind to be taken down by the wind, workers trying to clean things up, take it apart piece by piece, but can see gas trucks at this gas station with

no longer operating. they are filling out responders, fire engines, police officers, they are still able to control the area. in the height of the storm we saw dozens of rescues. luckily the death toll from hurricane idalia has not stepped up to hurricane ian but we saw last year. governor ron santos says only one death is attributed to the hurricane, a person who died in a motor vehicle accident during the storm. right now this is all about the recovery effort, the cleanup, people mucking out their homes and businesses trying to clean things up, salvage what they can, the price tag from the storm could top $20 billion so a very expensive storm here. a lot of small businesses are impacted. we spoke to one restaurant owner who said he's not going to be able to open up for another month. >> it is truly terrifying when you spent the last two years of

my life really trying every last minute to get this is this where is today. 1-sided be taken away. i'm blessed it didn't take more. >> reporter: you have your for that business owner. he said his restaurant is uninsurable so he has to pay for all damages, all repairs president biden expected to be here in florida tomorrow to tour the devastation signed a major disaster declaration for the state so that should free up additional federal-aid. neil: thanks, max gordon. scott larsen, those who have businesses just ran shackled by this thing. although the hideaway owner. very popular bar, it was completely underwater. is kind enough to join us. how are things looking now?

>> it was sell job all. it could be a while. neil: you got to see the stream version of your bar getting more and more under that water. what did you think? >> it was hard to watch. i was grateful to have the camera just so we could see it unfold. it was heartbreaking. i was watching the water. julie: are having some trouble with your audio. what do you now? what are your plans now? >> we have been planning the last couple days, getting dumpsters here and getting supplies, we will have a small army here tomorrow, our friends and family, just about.

trying to get this place cleaned out and then we will move on. larry: you're putting yourself but i'm sure things will get back to normal. apologize for the technical difficulties. i suspect he will be back and soon. we will see if the president visits what areas, hasn't been outlined yet but he's in-state tomorrow and we will watch continuing coverage on my fox news show when we monitor the president that the governor touring the area, places hardest it was one think it's nice to see you this is they decide to look after the peoples interests. i'm sure a lot of people in harm's way don't care whether the people helping is democrat or republican as long as they are helping. stay with us, you are watching fox business.

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adam: nowhere the use student loan forgiveness plans are going at the white house but i do know a lot of kids have not had to pay loans back in the interim. it doesn't stop the interest rate impact, they have to start paying that. anyway, the ramsey show cohost, that reality will hit a lot of people hard. even if you 've been absolved from paying your loan back as people wait this out the interest has always been accruing. what happens? >> reporter: thanks for having me. the interest is accruing today. this thing is here and we have seen that most people during that pause pay their student loan. only one% of people continued to pay their student loan. stat telus went people went into debt, they bought cars, how those, they bought lululemon. it increased their debt,

instead of paying down their student loan debt and now people are starting to feel that your knowing these payments are coming back for good. neil: it happens with a backdrop where consumer debt is one trillion dollars, bank of america reported at 9% of its outstanding loans, 30 days or more late. not panic time yet but many, a worrisome time. what do you think? >> reporter: absolutely. people have been used to having this extra margin. the average student loan debt is somewhere between $300-$500 a month in payment so they have the extra money in your budget every month you are going out and you've changed your lifestyle over the past three years, created a new standard of what you can afford and now that these payments are coming back a lot of americans have to look at their money, get on a budget and say can we afford

these payments and what are we going to have to change to make that happen? neil: government doesn't provide a great example. this has happened under presidents of both parties, we keep piling up the debt. it is encouraging but it would be like me offering dietary advice. having said that i wonder what can help people to change, they are not all this way but many are. it is an america thing where we spend a lot more than we make no matter how much we may, that has not changed. >> absolutely. i've been a victim of that myself. my husband and i got lots of consumer debt, $460,280,000 of it was student loan that my husband and i realized the federal student loan system is not going to put us first. is profiting from our pain. they are not out or our peace, they just want our payment so we decided we are going to pay

these loans off, we are going to get after, live unless that we make an increase our income and anyone listening can do the same thing as well. stuart: neil: how do you advise people, what percentage of their income should be socked away or should they be paying off high interest rate credit cards first before they start saving, is there a rule on that? >> first i want folks to tune in, we are doing a live stream to talk about those things in detail, student loan debt in america lifestream on september 12th, we are going to walk through how you can go through your budget and think about how much money you need to not only make your payment but also have a plan to pay off. people are looking at these payment plans, we will help you understand how you need to utilize those and navigate through those so you can pay with payment and then eventually pay your debt off in full. neil: you practice what they've

has been recommending? not joking here, rate you pay pours with cash, he runs around with a paper bag full of money so he knows exactly what he's spending. is that what you recommend? see the cash, see what you are spending so you know? >> reporter: cash is a great system. when you spend with actual cash money, paper money you feel it but at the end of the day, it's more about not utilizing that. i'm all for debit cards, that's fine but the key is not utilizing that. we want you to cut up your credit cards because we have seen the credit card has hit one trillion dollars that it at it is because people are not sure what they're spending is month to month. i read a stat that said over 75% of people have no idea what they spent the previous month. when we get off of credit cards, when we get onto a

budget, when we use our actual income and assigned every dollar a task we can have peace about knowing i'm deciding how my money is being spent and it is being spent intentionally. neil: look forward to that. watch. death on the nation expert ramsey's show. we are focusing on the relevance on elements in california where store looting, they are trying to push in california to find workers and the stores where they work if they try to intervene in these robberies and address the robbers they could be fined up to $8000 which doesn't make sense here, after this.

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>> your chi has serious crime problem, a lot of retailers, the health is the form a warning come with a big fine if approved in california, 18,000 stop thieves from doing what's causing all this problem. how is that going on? seems like an upside down world but where is this going? >> reporter: the bill's supporters say rank-and-file employees should not confront shoplifters because it is dangerous but retailers large and small say that is insane. i will claim why.

california police generally don't respond to theft under $950. stores are on their own. now sacramento democrats are pushing the bill that finds businesses if employees intervene to stop theft. >> it's not okay to take a rank-and-file worker and say if there's an intruder we deputize you to be the one to intervene. >> it's not enough that we decriminalized property crime but now he is saying you can't stop criminals from taking your property. >> reporter: hundred rally thursday at the state capital to protest this bill that limits retailers ability to confront thieves and requires businesses to hire private security if they want to stop crime. some call it a license to steal. >> reporter: rather than sending my kids to school to get educated, local store, grab less, come home.

>> reporter: the bill requires retailers to file a workplace violence pension plan it stipulates only private security can confirm shoplifters, otherwise osha can find a retailer $18,000 per incident, they log every threat of violence, from our counseling that happens. >> this is a terrible bill, a terrible bill that seeks to put all the burden on the business owners for the lawlessness we are experiencing in california. is wrong. irony. i know you know about prop in which voters approved the criminalized shoplifting, that, if we want this is the problem, but rather than fix that, retailers say it will only make the situation worse. neil: i want to go to scott martin in chicago.

he knows about crime. a lot of it happening in his neck of the woods. i want to understand where the governor is coming from, they don't want people to be in harm's way but putting the burden and the cost on retail is adding insult to injury, isn't it? >> yes and takes away what i think the retail expect of the city and the committee to do for them in paying taxes and being a steward of that community to protect their business, talk about how much doing to these businesses or the community itself. you are looking at $100 billion retail theft across the board. that's eating into earnings, we thought that with dollar general and other companies walgreens, those are areas getting affected as far as stock prices. neil: of looting to what's going on at dollar tree, dick's sporting-goods at nordstrom has the telegraph about even

re-impacting their bottom line and sales going forward. usually it starts like a brush fire, whether it is a legitimate excuse or a real one it doesn't seem to matter but it is real enough that they are citing it. does this make you think twice about retailers? >> it doesn't it should. the brushfire becomes a forest fire if somebody doesn't do something. it's not the excellent employee that business or retail but community leaders, those in charge that should step up and take care of this. they are putting it back on the retailer, you can do this but not that and that's not protecting their business. stuart: a fairly muted start. the jobs added, it would probably not prompt the federal reserve to hike rates at the september meeting later this month.

now flat but september, people don't know this, a scarier month than october historically. how do you think this will go? >> 9/11 affecting data points. look at the year to date and you've got air in this market meaning more volatility, the market will fall back and we will see buyers come in. these weak hands come in july and august, chasing these prices higher and came out as fast as they came in so once that last money comes in and goes out that is typically when you have your stock price low and then long-term money comes in and takes it higher than they were before. neil: mentioning before this show about the strength of the consumer. you marvel that as well sure enough in the latest jobs report where there is growth, substantial growth in leisure and hospitality industry leading the way, other sectors slowing a little bit, play that out for me.

>> i think it stays that way. take a look around in a restaurant, you travel, try to book something at a sporting event and a lot of that demand and hospitality space, service sector doing very well and travel so it continues into the holiday season but next year we have a restart with regards to fed rates coming peru and a very short-lived one and shallow one but through the end of the year you can count on the hospitality sector. neil: as far as the market and where it goes the rest of the year last year was horrible, this year is the opposite of that. you think that will continue as we get into a more historical norm or is it taking it month by month? >> month by month but i like where we are compared to a couple years ago with the fed starting to operate in 2022 but that's the key point going forward. what is the fed going to do

next year? they talked about slowing the rate hikes. then they talked more rate hikes coming down the pike. we see that affect stock prices, leverage gets more expensive. that makes the world go around and the stock market go up so leverage is more expensive, stock prices fall so it's on the fed to take and relax on what they have done with rate hikes. adam: maybe just this month. after that anyone's guess. scott martin on all that. let's go to what they have cooking in the next 15 minutes. brian: the race to turn the lights on in florida schools after idalia plus the sunshine state is doing right can teach the rest of the country. get ready to meet your new robot coworker at the top of the hour, more coast-to-coast after this. ♪

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old alums, like randall cobb. neil: is a traitor in your eyes, aaron rodgers? >> no, we are rooting for him. we think he will be really well this year. they will win more games than they will lose which is why we have this deal. we are excited to see how the season turns out. adam: if he loses and the jets lose, how are you doing that? >> a free bar for everyone in the place. for everyone in the place. doesn't include food but everybody who comes the bar, pretty much any time, if they lose we will pay every one's bar tab at jackson american pub in milwaukee. neil: aaron rodgers should like this and be flattered by it. i would think they don't like it much. >> i would think he would like this. that there be a lot of jets

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♪ ♪ neil: all right, welcome back, everybody. here we've got the dow down -- up, i should, excuse me, up about 71 points right now. the president of the united states, of course, was crowing about economic numbers a short while ago at the white house. tomorrow he's going to be in florida touring the hurricane-damaged areas. we don't know the exact e cities

or low calls that he and governor christie -- i'm sorry, ron desantis. i was saying chris christie because that kind of reminded me what was going on with superstorm sandy back in 2012 when he and barack obama bonded, you know, after that disaster. a lot of people said that it didn't look good for chris christie because he looked a little bit too chummy with the president at the time. you can't win with some of these things. bottom line, as chris christie has said many times since, anyone who comes to help and deal with a state in distress is welcomed by me. others very closely looking at how this meeting with the president and ron desantis will go, just how far this camaraderie how old go. edward lawrence is -- should go. at the white house. it's a delicate balance, isn't it, edward? >> reporter: it is. the president doesn't want to be seen as not doing enough as in the case with maui.

the president also needs florida to switch to democratic if he plans on winning the presidency. that's one of the pasts, is through florida. and you know governor ron desantis very popular there in florida. so the two are going to meet, the president confirmed that about 15 minutes ago, he said he will meet with governor ron desantis when he gets into florida. but florida's in play coming for the election, so there's a lot of attention you're seeing from the president, there's a lot of attention to help those folks with damage like that. ing because that's just incredible, what has happened with the storm surge and the flood that came through there. neil: these things always get politicized, it's the nature of the beast. some of the criticism of the president is that he took his sweet time to maui, he's not wasting a nanosecond going to the florida. obviously, that won't come up between the two men tomorrow when they're walking around all of that, but how is that playing out for the president right now, his concern about how he looked, the way he handled maui versus the way he's wanting to handle

this? >> reporter: and the images will matter. when the president steps off the plane, is governor desantis going to be there or meet him at some other location it'll be very interesting to see how the two actually interact given the fact that if former president donald trump doesn't end up being the nominee, it could be governor ron desantis in this. now, the president wants to to be presidential, he wants to look like he's in charge of the situation when he goes down there. he also wants to erase from people's memories what happened with the maui fires and the response to that. you know, he still hasn't been to east palestine the either, so these are in the back of voters' minds, the president going down there to survey himself and try and change some minds going forward at least in florida. neil: all right. you're referring to that train derailment in east palestine. let me ask you too as well about the economic numbers and everything else. the president has been talking about wanting to get more emergency monies period not just for florida, but period. he's looking for $4 billion. he's been arguing republicans are stopping him.

is that true? >> reporter: right. there is some gridlock there, and, you know, from the republican standpoint they look at democrats and say they never let a crisis go to waste, the president trying to put in a lot of other things with the funds that they need, extra funds for maui as well as getting some help here with florida. the republicans would like to just help those two jurisdictions, the democrats -- or the president trying to get as much as he can into that and see what goes through. neil: i was trying to come up with all these questions, and i thought, oh, he won't know that -- [laughter] and then i was real close to talking about all these lunar missions, i'm going to try that, but we're out of time. great job, my friend. [laughter] have a safe is weekend. >> reporter: you too. india's trying to get to the moon. neil: there we go. edward lawrence, the guy is a walking ensigh crow field ya, as is brian brenberg. brian: you're always talking about the moon, like every three days. neil: a lot of people want t