steve, your first. >> i guessed hummingbird before i saw the list they maneuver in and out. >> ashley. >> i thought it was a hawk but i don't think that the real thing, hummingbird. stuart: i'm going to say hummingbird, i have these hummingbird feeders, birdfeeders on the windows in my house, you see these hummingbird's common and suck up the sugar water and i'm convinced that a hummingbird are the only ones that can fly backwards. the hummingbirds flapping wings and a figure eight motion, they move their wings 180 degrees while most of them flop up and down,. >> what a joy to be with you in new york, brilliant stuff is amazing. "coast to coast" starts right now. ♪.

neil: 22 years ago this day, the magnitude of an unimaginable and unprecedented attack on u.s. soil was sinking and across the country and across the world, markets would never open that day. by the time that they did on september 17, 2001 they would plummet more than 7% and keep plummeting bodily being out on september 21 after falling more than 1367-point and 14%, newspapers and magazines with jargon and depression headlines talking up more correctly down in any talk of an eminent turnaround, some predicted a years long recession or worse and other solid dismal fate for the bastion of capitalism in the downtown new york city itself was destined to become a financial chernobyl to be avoided and shun one

publications a decade, the reality was different although stocks were indeed hammered, they did come back, not in years, more than weeks that's how long it took the market average to recover the ground that they lost. it would be a bumpy ride and certainly a tragic one. but if the perpetrators of an attack on the center of capitalism thought they hollowed out the center or worse, capitalism itself they were mistaken, they were very mistaken, consider this september 10, 2001 the normal day of treaty before the dow soared more than 26 to present. the s&p 308%. the nasdaq, 711% in the nasdaq 100 which it just kicked off more than 1000%. airline and bake stocks that have been beaten down to pennies on the dollar came back to, bumpy for all real-time but one sector after another surviving

and the test of time. that is the flipside of this awful day, tragic to be sure but the end of america, tragically off key, that is very much for sure. you don't have to believe me, you have to believe something else, history. what are they welcome a new cavuto, i want to thank my friends and colleagues ashley webster david asman in some perspective 22 years after the most logical days in american history were looking at amick's historic combat, remarkable we all endured that day even more remarkable how we prove the perpetrators wrong since that day. who knows that better than my friend and ageless wonder new york stock exchange a iconic market feeder peter kind enough to join us. good to have you.

>> thank you so much, good to keep on to be here. it was remarkable where we were 22 years ago, the markets never open but how are you feeling and thinking about what was in store for us we would not open up for another week or so and it was looking dicey. >> your retrospective that i listen to, quite emotional because i was here on that day and i'm here on the floor of the exchange into look around the room and remember what we went through on that day i was a broker for robert corley securities and whatever clicks fathers work for counter fitz-gerald and he was in the towers at the time and i remember that suddenly his phone went dead and unfortunately chickie picone was his name and his father was never heard for again. that was an amazing day and amazing week shout out to richie for getting the exchange open a week later, lower manhattan and

how we would take decades to come back. i think it's come back so strong but it did take a while and when you mentioned the numbers in the rebound in the market and the last 22 years it's been proven throughout history and the amazing destruction of different people throughout history and the resilience of the human spirit is unbegotten both to use a word that is not a word. we could not be taken down, the exchange, the economy, the united states of america cannot be destroyed how much hatred or aggression comes at us, we are stronger than ever the markets have rebounded in many crisis since then but that was the day that would go down in infamy and we prove them wrong, my parents were holocaust survivors always told me that survival is the greatest revenge and this market in the new york stock exchange survived incredibly well that is

our best revenge. >> it is very true in the guise of our generation always like to remind those of a different generation and my kids weren't even born yet my son would be born the day after on september 12, 2001 but the fact of the matter is a lot of people see this or hear about it in history books with a fifth of the population that wasn't even alive, how do you convey that to the folks that you know younger people are people alive they did not appreciate the magnitude of that day and what we learned in the québec intercountry on that day and the day sense. >> history is an amazing thing in society and humankind has gone through nothing like that but you think of the holocaust particularly has a big effect on me and my family and you think nobody could ever survive that or come back from that and as i

say the human resilience of the spirit is so profound and it's hard to convey what happened and it's so unbelievable to be in it and i was racing down the west side highway to be on your show and i was reminded as we go by those towers that were so iconic a big part of lower manhattan it is taking decades to rebuild all of that it's amazing what we can go through and come back from in the human spirit can surpass and survive virtually anything that's what of the hardest things we've ever seen in history, no question about it. >> you are a living example of that, peter tuchman very good seeing you thank you for taking the time this important day. >> is a pleasure and honor to be here and part of everything that you are showing today. neil: thank you. i would go to my buddy charlie can you, i think you realize

george pataki and iconic figure and amick in politics, to return republican governor the bluest of blue states, he was there on that day, the governor, welcome to both of you, governor the magnitude of this was sinking across the city and the world. what did you think after there could've been tens of thousand victims at the world trade center certainly we did not know. >> what you said is right, we did not know what we did not do hoppity deaths they would be at ground zero but more importantly we did not know what followed on might be. was it going to be additional tax, chemical warfare, the issue with some of the anthrax that was released a few days later in the uncertainly was enormous and you just talking to peter about the spirit out americans that day we saw the horror and

unbelievable spirit of people coming together risking their lives and putting the lives of the line segregated get through this we don't know what might come next, doesn't matter we're going to stand together make sure we come through as well and we did. neil: were you surprised by the speed, it was a bumpy ride, we don't want to minimize what's going on but it surprised many. >> it did come back, we were in the middle of a correction a big time nasdaq. >> a year later we were still in it. >> i was covering the correction at the wall street journal and all the sudden i became a were cars, i was at the wall street journal and going to work that morning and i had a doctors appointment as i came out i was looking down lafayette street at asked her place, people are running for their lives, i dived in to crunch fitness which i belong to at the time and i saw

both towers go down and the last phone call i got from my wife was don't go to work. we all became were corresponded that day. i was actually down at ground zero two days later because i was covering the recreation of the new york stock exchange which was plummeting that had to get re-created to get trading going. dick rosso deserves credit he was working with you and rudy giuliani. >> republican, democrat, hilary clinton, the senator at the time. >> it was an amazing job were politicians like george and others and this is where leadership comes in it gave grasso the ability to get the economy going, the economy did not going that's what they wanted to do they wanted to destroy the u.s. economy take up the stock market from god knows how long and thanks to him and thanks to rudy. >> they were cool as cucumbers and i remember you very well, it would very easy as a public official under that pressure to

snap, you never did, you kept your calm and you reassured new yorkers we will get through this and we will rebuild after this. neil: some said it cannot be, but it ended up being. >> in a crisis you have to put aside everything except dealing with at the moment. and people ask me how did you deal with the personal losses of people that die did everything, you can't even think about it, you have to focus about what has to be done and provide security and second provide every element that you can to try to save lives and then begin the process of re-creating lower manhattan. neil: did you wonder, the stories new york become a ghost town for downtown new york and did you wonder i'm overseeing the state that could be imploding. >> that is what are the things that people don't realize. we had a human catastrophe and economic catastrophe, we had 20 million square feet of office destroyed or damaged. i was getting calls from company saying we are leaving. he cannot be concentrated in the narrow area.

neil: you can rebuild it, i'm not coming. >> the night of september 11, we worked all night in september 12 we had a set up to help companies to have new space for financial aid to get through it and we had tremendous leadership from the private sector, i'll tell you one story, he called me we were right across the street, the board on monday is it about to leave, he says i don't want to leave but we need assurances that we're going to have security and i cannot get it from the city and i told ken, you stay there, anything did you need the state will provide in that monday they extended their lease, that is six days after the attacks and it sent a message that yes were going to get through this economically as well. >> i think the leadership is why that happened. i think ken felt and stan o'neill felt that merrill lynch and a lot of these guys, with you having the back and rudy have either back in dick grasso they felt like we can make a go of this.

three days later i'm down there. and that cannot be said of construction workers. i dad was a construction worker who worked on the trade center. if you ever see those bars that come out of the ground, that's what my father put in the gr ground. if you went down there at the time there were thousands of them it was such a mess, construction workers, guys that my dad trying to pull together pieces of metal find one person and i witnessed this, we were right there, the real financial center which is across the street the stan o'neill, the ceo at the time i said what the hell is that smell and the cop turned to be and said it is a morgue what little were finding were putting in here. it was the most gut wrenching moment of my career as a journalist. >> it was but you also saw the way people were responding and

you had tremendous pride of them and how they recovered. as charlie said the police, firefighters, emts but we had construction workers leave their jobs in the outer boroughs and come down to ground zero to help go to the pile that was holding the remains in the bodies. in that sense it was inspirational. >> doctors. my brother ran the icu at bellevue and he went down there to try to find people, that night they let him in because he had his badge on and they made him part of the bucket brigades they were using buckets to basically remove bit by bit the gravel so you might find somebody. neil: amazing. i want to thank you both very much. governor your and inspiring figure i remember quite well. good thing i was not governor at the time. >> he would've done fine. again this goes without saying. when we come back we want to look at the enormity and the significance it is no accident

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>> i don't see how the going down. >> i be more conscientious. >> times are tough with the gas prices going up and every item when i go food shopping is 20% more post-covid. it is tough out there for everybody. neil: we like to step back and say it's nothing like it was 22 years ago this day but inflation is a problem this day so much so it's rattling consumers and their tapping the credit lines that we have not seen since way before covid, who knows that other than mark rosen jcp ceo he joined the side of texas. great to have you thank you for coming on this day. we should have perspective on this sort of thing but this indebtedness that is growing, that is a problem for you and jcpenney, right? >> i think if we turn to who our customer is and what's going on

i think what were seated the environment that our customers are more challenged everything will day and our customers are the core of america and the teachers who keep her kids in school, the construction worker building our homes in the medical worker taking care of us in our family and what the families are seen on a monthly basis versus two years ago there's $2700 more on the things that they need in their home, food, gas, rent and mortgage payments, that is a challenge but for us in that time it's more important that we help them make every dollar count, that's why were reinvested in the business to provide with accessible fashion a great value. neil: that is a 1 billion-dollar reinvestment that is no trump change. other department stores, depending where you are on the foodchain of the stores, and often times never works out.

are you afraid, i know you're private now but does it make you worry that the day you could go public again is way way off if it comes at all? >> you asked about the investment were seen positive signs already and we started investing a couple of years ago and we started with the product portfolio and we announced a billion-dollar reinvestment in our stores in remodeling and refreshing our stores and provided a better shopping environment and technology and checkout equipment in the stores that will give a better shopping experience in the inventory threat of the supply chain and a whole improved experience for our customers when they shop online. we've seen positive signs and positive results from that already and we see a 5% increase in some of our core customer groups and the frequency that there visiting us in the key groups is over 20% increase versus the prior year.

it is driving frequency which is the key and that's the reason that is happening because our customer needs to make every dollar count more than ever so the really looking for that at a great value that we provide. neil: do you think that part of what you're doing is fixing it up for a sale. i only say that because were getting word that smucker is going to be buying hostess for $5.6 billion, they had a rework, this is the maker of twinkies. the only reason that's related in our conversation, whether that is maybe what is being orchestrated that your turning this around maybe for a sale. >> were focused on the long-term and focused on servicing our customer and regular customer back giving the customer what they need to make every moment in their lives count, that is a long-term focus and that is the benefit of being a private company in a private company where our ownership is aligned with the ownership interest

which is to really build long-term sustainable profitable customer relationships and that's the focus of what were trained to do with the business in that the focus of the investment that we are making. neil: keep us posted. thank you for joining us mark rosen jcpenney ceo. don't tell him that this retailer has no future, he has serious change to make sure he does. there are many figures who populate all the boldfaced names and tell us about the tragedy but also the opportunity that that is happened since 9/11. you know the tunnel to tower foundation ceo lost his brother that tragic day, man 0 man, the good this gentleman has done sense is remarkable. , what my favorite guest of all time, frank stiller is next. ♪

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♪ ♪. neil: we forget as we remember those who lost their lives on 9/11 22 years ago today. frank siller tunnel to tower ceo lost his brother, fireman who had gone to see what he could do at the world trade center, he never came out of that alive. what my favorite guest over these years, he's never changed he had at the cabin and he could run for any office that he wants but he doesn't want any of the offices, politicians stand down. frank, very good to see you. >> it's nice to be here and it is important, i thank you for having me on because time i get to talk about my brother especially on this day, 22 days later it's still very painful. neil: is about what happened. >> stephen was finishing his night tour an elite squad he trained for terrorism attacks

and help the firefighters and he got the call of duty he was on his way home to play golf with me and my brother george and ross and he heard on the radio scam he turned his car rounded called his wife and he said sally tell my brothers i'll try to catch up with them later and he went back to his firehouse, got his gear and went to the brooklyn battery tunnel and some people from the tunnel authority, early this morning they were saying it was like a pocketknife inside of the battery tunnel it was like everyone was running out rightfully so but stephen decide to put 60 pounds of gear minimum and run. the tunnel is on most 2 miles long and he ran to the tunnel and came out west street and saw firefighter buddies, hopped on a fire truck up to liberty west and that was the last place he was seen alive was liberty and west street.

he went into the south tower we believe that with the squad one brothers were found, some of the bodies were found there and you would not want to be there, if you trained you would want to fight the fire with the people that he trained after he found out they were in the south tower and i had no doubt he was going up the stairs as some money great heroes were that great day and he did not come home and i got a call that day by a firefighter richie who lived a couple of doors away and he said frank, stephen is on the list of missing firefighters, which i early knew i was with my brothers and sisters at staten island and he said it's really bad down here and i said i know and he said you to understand, nobody's coming home and i had to go in the other room and tell my sisters. we raised my brother. my parents died when he was ten

years old he was truly an orphan at ten years old he was much as a son to my siblings and myself as he was a brother so to go in and tell them that stephen is gone i cannot explain. neil: how long before you officially knew. >> 's body was never recovered. over a thousand bodies never recovered. like i said i knew when the south tower came down at 9:59 a.m. that stephen was gone and i turned to my mother-in-law that day and i said i think i just lost my brother, not knowing what he did. i did not know he ran through a tunnel we did not put the pieces together for a while and just knowing he found a way. there were so many firefighters off duty police officers off duty that found their way there and to go do what they were told to do, you mentioned before people running away and these guys are running up the stairs. it is something that we can

never forget, we always have to talk about the heroism, the selflessness and the sacrifice and the ultimate sacrifice by so many and how many are dying of 9/11 illnesses. neil: somebody died that day. >> absolutely, see the loved ones ate away in front of your eyes, i had a service yesterday my lifelong friend we were kids growing up i've known him since i was six years old we were friends for 64 years and we just had his services yesterday on long island and he worked for the oldest elevator mike hanlon and he had to clean the set out of elevators on 9/11. there are so many stories we have got to remember 9/11 those who died after 9/11 and the 7000 men and women that have died ever since protectiveness here so we don't have another 9/11 and i saw secretary mayorkas and i pointed to him and i said close the border and not just

because of all the illegals coming. neil: security secretary mayorkas. >> when all the terrorists are coming and you turn a blind eye, these people still want to kill us, these people still want to kill us, we gotta be diligent and you have to make sure that these things don't happen again. neil: went to the tunnel to tower foundation start? it's the story of your brother obviously but then it took off and you have helped so many fine homes in the latest wave another 22 mortgage free homes in recognition of the anniversary. how many has it been? >> we have done over a thousand of the mortgage free homes, we are proud of that. 22 today, march the 22 anniversary. we decided as a family we want to make sure goodness always triumphs over evil. how do we do that making sure we

give 22 mortgage free homes to the great heroes is still continue dying for us, the men and women. police officers all of the country that protect us, you know what's going on now people disrespect us. we are going to be the ones to protect the families and take care of the families left and right, i say we but we mean your viewers, fox viewers, the coming to tunnel to towers because they know were taking all the resources that they donate to us and we make sure they goes to these families. neil: you full disclosure of your folks a big backer tunnel to tower foundation. that is my bias but well worth it because so much of that money i think has the highest percentage amount of charities. to get to the intended recipient. when you look at it in the reaction that you get in were talking about my son meeting you was like meeting a rockstar, he is a fireman himself and i remember he was in all the new it was like mick jagger even

though he doesn't know who mick jagger is. >> a kind of look like him. >> everyone, do you know what i remember about that and you are modest which you can never be an effective tv anchor. you met and shook hands with every single fireman there and in my little town of minden new jersey and stayed in there was no rush and that's when you were doing retracing the steps. >> two years ago today i came to the brooklyn battery tunnel to honor my brother and i wanted to do something special for the 20th anniversary and i'm getting do something very personal also and i felt like if i walked from the pentagon to shanksville to ground zero that it would mean something. >> it meant a lot to me but it also meant a lot to families because i wore the shirt of every day of another firefighter and another person who died on

9/11 because we do remember them all, the thing about tunnel to towers we honor all of them but i'll tell you the truth, the reason why people might want to shake my hand or meet me or whatever it is not me it is the mission that we have two take care of these families, people know it is so important what we are doing at tunnel to towers foundation they want to become a part of it and because we keep on growing everything will year, the need is there. neil: can i correct you on something, it is you, you are a lot of it. no one has taken a tragedy like that and turned into so much good. i think i can speak for my son and thousands, millions of others across the country seeing what you do and how you do it, i know i do a business show but that is priceless. >> it's been done by my whole

family, my brothers and sisters, myself, my nephews and nieces. neil: i love that you say your family keeps you grounded. >> for sure. >> some of my grandkids over my house later today and for my siblings will be at my house and we will have a very simple dinner together later on. neil: how are your brothers kids doing. >> phenomenal five kids he left behind a wife and five kids everyone spectacular it's incredible what they're doing with their lives. it's a beatable thing to watch. my hats off to sally his wife and how she has kept it altogether for them and another father has inspired them to be good citizens and good people and it's a beautiful thing to watch, they were surrounded by a lot of love we are a big family my sister-in-law's family is a very big family and she could not get rid of us even if she wanted to. neil: frank seller, good to see you i know this is a tough day. you do a lot of good from that.

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today. >> welcome back to "coast to coast" in new york city the migrate crisis continues. last week eric adams said the crisis could destroy new york city. advocates condemn those comments they call the anti-emigrant, reckless and fear mongering and over the weekend mayor adams doubled down on the comments he warned new yorkers that the city is going to has have to/the budt up to 50% if the bite administration does not step up

with more financial assistance. listen. >> i have to be honest with new yorkers on what we are about to experience i financial typhoon a tsunami and i don't think the city has ever experienced the good use terminology to divide the reality that i'm facing, this is not an academic exercise this is not a utopia. >> the mayor says all departments and services will have to make 5% spending cuts by november and again, in january and april of the city does not receive more federal help, the proposed cuts reportedly include hiring freezes and slashes in overtime for the fdny and nypd officers, the city says it will cost $12 billion to care for migrants through july of 2025, there are 60000 migrants currently and 200 shelters citywide and it cost on average $383 a night to shelter these folks, mayor adams said he is in

favor of former president trump's remaining mexico policy, practice that democrats criticize as cruel and ended by president biden. and we did have a policy of stay in mexico and any border localities until you're allowed into. >> progressives of new york city are attacking mayor adams, their calling him the black, you've one new york state senator democrat that says he should be primary in the election in 2025. neil: you cannot win, brian llenas, thank you for that. to anthony the new york congressman on the homeland security and many other groups of the great state of new york, good to have you. obviously the migrate situation is out of control we had frank siller here saying is leading to also to problems as well beyond new york in all these areas, what you do? >> i think that the house republicans took the first step

in passing the secure the border bills where we provided funding in invested in research and technology and make sure there was money there to hire thousands of more custom and border patrol agents, what we need to focus on that we understand people want to achieve the american dream but we need to come to the front door and we need to make sure who's committed to this country and what they're up to and where they came from and right now you see from the streets of new york city it is nothing but organized it is complete chaos. neil: do you think were right 22 years after 9/11 or another attack, could it happen again? >> i think attacks can happen anytime. i think this country has spent the last 22 years preparing its what are the reasons why were having a hearing the homeland security subcommittee on emergency management technology

is going to have a conversation and explore the threat landscape 22 years later we have great witnesses from the fdny, the port authority and of course my home area of nassau county police department, we want to hear how the coronation is going between local, state and city and federal agencies. we want to make sure were provided all the resources necessary and keep the great country safe and somebody who spent his adult life and as an nypd detective in the chief of the fire department here on long island and we ask yourselves all the time as an emergency management, are we better off today than we were the last time we dealt with this, those questions need to be asked and answered tomorrow, what are we doing better and not holding our end of the bargain and let's make sure we do all we can to keep this great city and nation safe. neil: thank you very much, what

his point not the same thing frank siller was pointing up of tender to t tunnel to towers. watch reported 22 years ago virtually all of those trying to get into this country were from places like mexico, ecuador, honduras, guatemala, today 100-inch 16 countries are represented with those who tried to get here some as far away as russia, china and iran. that is why it's a big issue on this day especially for folks like frank siller as well. stay with us. after advil. feeling better? on top of the worlddddd!!! before advil. advil targets pain at the source of inflammation. when pain comes for you, come back fast with advil liqui-gels.

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>> welcome back to cavuto "coast to coast" i am kelly o'grady and ivan elon musk headline for you today a new book from famed biographer isaacson is out this week he spent two years shot with the billionaire during arguably the most tumultuous period of elon musk's career today it sheds light on elon musk's upbringing how we entered an abusive relationship with his father, excretes consistent bullying at school. isaacson argues the upbringing is what shape the positive and negative that we see today and elon musk and a brilliant innovator and a mark mercurial manchild. >> there is no single elon musk he has many personalities and you can watch them go from being

very giddy and funny to being deeply engineering mode and suddenly a dark cloud happens it's almost like doctor jekyll and mr. hyde. >> the book touches on his leadership style calling it hard-core but the jekyll and hyde street seems to cause problems as well one antidote i found interesting from the book shared that musk wanted to share money by shutting down the data centers and move them to another site and the staff warned that would take months but elon showed up on christmas eve with moving vans and they were ready to get the job done and the platform suffered technical difficulties including the glitches during governor desantis presidential campaign announcement. isaacson suggested reckless management is what works for him and he says could you get the rockets to obrador the transition to ev's without accepting all aspects of him

hinged and unhinged sometimes great innovators are reckless, cringe worthy and even toxic, the book hits shelves tomorrow but when it comes to elon musk there is much of the story to be written. back to you. neil: thank you for that, jared levy a great stock market watcher, what is the big deal. >> the guy is a lot of things and he created a lot of magic and again, like she said it takes a mind like that that is adaptable and sometimes odd and not always the prettiest to make things interesting. i am a supporter reluctantly although i think he can be a little bit rash. neil: he does define the technology and paypal if you go back to those days and what he's done with it and doing in space, is he spread too thin, do you think. >> i think so here is a guy that wants to control and he's a brilliant man and he understands looking at these businesses and

seen the pieces that are missing and seen how he can make them more efficient and work better but his mind cannot be in all those places at once. i think the guy said he sleeps rear four hours at night and you get to the point unfortunately physiologically it starts to be a problem -- is me judging i don't know elon musk personally but for myself when i operate at that level i don't know how he does it. i think there is a danger there. neil: we talk about the for five horsemen and certainly tesla, microsoft, google, alphabet, there is always apple do you buy these stocks as a group committee can't differentiate one from another they show great promise or is his yet to be proven. tesla has a stock price that does exactly match the earnings it is generating so you could make it argument. >> that is tesla, first of all i don't buy all these companies

blanket. neil: what do you think most people say apple safe assured way and others say no it's time it's coming on and will see the novel deal, where are you on all of this. >> i think apple is a good pl place. in the moment let's talk about the next six months i think apple is a safe bet i think the 15th will be a great success but the smart phone market is spiraling and slowing down 11% last year on track to be 7% this year but apples capturing market share so they will win i love apple. google big data, amazon, big data, a.i. i think they all play into the and i like that in tesla lots of competition. for me an economic perspective they're not in the best place, they have to cut prices and again, that makes the competition tougher but there against automakers that have been around for years that have

vast resources and that have elon musk in the home but there great marketing and great products and that unfortunately for me doesn't draw me to tesla like a must-have, do i own it, i do but a small amount i think it's a high risk high volatility type stock yet to be prepared for that and you have the headline risk of elon doing other things that affected, that is a danger. neil: spread thin, we shall see. darren leavy on all of that w wl have more on the hurricane in the atlantic coming up after this (vo) while you may not be running an architectural firm, tending hives of honeybees, and mentoring a teenager — your life is just as unique. your raymond james financial advisor gets to know you, your passions, and the way you help others. so you can live your life. that's life well planned.

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neil: we have not forgotten about hurricane lee and the atlantic coast, quite a ways off the coast but it could once again regroup as warmer water for where it is could boost it to a category 4 storm once again. it seems to be at this point heading close or around new england were could pose a problem for the region may be provided a direct hit on nova scotia so much we don't know in this much we do it bears watching and tracking, "fox weather" are doing all of that and then some so we will keep you posted on that will be get more details of the track and path. it is big and nasty but we are on i