♪ larry: inflation is up, family income's down, poverty is up. gas prices are up. oil prices are up. people are running over our open borders. it's all wrong. i say it's time to retire joe bidenomics. that's all. retire him. and it's time, it's way past time, to watch liz macdonald. liz -- elizabeth: please, march oi -- harry, don't you ever retire. larry: i won't do it.

elizabeth: i would miss you too much. thank you so much, larry. okay, now this story, house republicans say, yes, they do now have the firepower in their new impeachment inquiry to uncover just how deep, quote, president biden's culture of corruption really is is. and we've got a new outrage, white house sending the media its new talking points memo demanding the media push back against all of this in order to help president biden. and we've got the 99 11 call for the family calling the cops on energy secretary granholm and her entourage. and former president trump now moving to steal away biden's union voter base. uaw workers and the white house today say z bidenomics is working. inflation accelerates to a 14-month high. and the new mexico governor rapidly losing support over her unconstitutional suspension of second amendment gun rights. and china making moves, appearing to threaten a taiwan

invasion just days after president biden claimed china was too economically weak to invade. thanks for joining us, i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ elizabeth: okay, let's get right at it with house republican conference vice chair congressman mike johnson, former arkansas governor mike huckabee. congressman, first to you. talk to us about the subpoena power, the power to grant immunity from prosecution that the house impeachment inquiry now has. are you going to get u.s. treasury and banks to turn over more records? are they going to get the national archives to hand over the thousands of e-mails where vice president used fake e-mail names communicating with hunter biden? >> i do think we'll be able to do all that, and the inquiry, as speaker mccarthy said, was the

next natural step in this process. it's occasioned by the evidence we've already uncovered. but we is have had some impediments to those investigations. normally when a committee in congress or a group in congress is doing an investigation, we are limited to legislative purposes. so when you switch into the impeachment inquiry mode, that takes it to another level, and it allows us to pursue those subpoenas more aggressively, and i think we'll have that evidence turn over. the white house is going to stonewall on anything we ask them for. we'll go to court, but i think the judges will look at this differently now that we're in the impeachment inquiry phase. elizabeth: governor, we've got senators marsha blackburn and tom cotton backing the impeachment inquiry, mitt romney saying he won't run for reelection. governor, what do you make of the white house counsel's office sending a talking points memo to the new york times, cnn, associated press, fox demanding that we all in the media use it to push back on the impeachment inquiry to help joe biden?

what do you think of that? >> let me, first of all, say how much of a privilege it is the to be on with congressman johnson, one of the smartest and most articulate members of the house are republican caucus, and i have great respect for him. the big surprise is not that the white house is serving out this memo -- sending out this memo. the big story is that most of of the media will take it and read it almost verbatim on air. that's what's really disturb thing. where are the journalists in this country? that they don't exist anymore. and this is proof positive that the white house would have the audacity to think that it can just hand the media talking points and a script and have full expectation that they'll follow it. elizabeth: yeah. so what the governor just said, it's remindful of, you know, the pressure put on the media to bury the hunter biden laptop story before the 2020 election. congressman, let's listen to house oversight chair comer. he says he has leads on tracing that $10 million bribe that

allegedly joe biden and hunter biden took. still that is not validated yet, but i think the house impeachment push is going to try to get to the bottom of that. watch democrats pushing back. watch this. >> have you been able to trace that $10 million, do you believe? >> we're still looking for that. as you know -- >> you have any leads? >> we do have leads. we believe and suspect that there are offshore accounts. what they said in that 1023 form where with they used various bank accounts, that is consistent with what we've seen in romania, in china, in russia and ukraine. no one knew the bidens had shell companies, no one knew they had 1790 suspicious activity reports activity reports. >> there are no charges against joe biden, and they want to impeach the guy. that's obviously coming from donald trump. >>ing blow your mind what we have seen, and the bank records will prove whether this happened around. >> we can see, ma'am, you can see that the homes that the

bidens own can't be afforded on a congressional or senate salary. you also understand that it's not normal for family members to receive millions of dollars from overseas interests. those things aren't normal. it's not normal to have 20 shell companies. elizabeth: congressman, talk to us about the evidence we're seeing so far and what could be coming down the road. are are we going to hear more about a offshore bank accounts and more shell companies and more about the bribery? >> we are, and that was a good sampling of many of the issues that are on the table. the problem is there's so much corruption here, so much, so many allegations of wrongdoing that it's difficult for people to keep track of. i do think that we're going to be able to kill in further, we're going to connect -- dig in further, can connect a couple more dots that go directly to joe biden himself. here's the point, liz, when we have credible allegations of bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors, we have no choice but to pursue this and follow the truth where it leads. article ii, section four of the

constitution sayings very -- says very clearly these are impeachable offenses. bribe arely is listed there, expressly statement thed, so we have to do our duty, uphold our oath to the constitution, and that's what this is. elizabeth: so they have to do their duty. they have to do this, governor. what do you say? >> i think a he's exactly right. and kevin mccarthy is doing it the right way. he's not rushing into an impeachment vote which, if taken right now, would die within five minutes on the senate floor. it'd be -- there'd be no purpose, it'd give joe biden and the democrats a reason to say we're exonerated. take this patiently and me nodically. i know there are some house republicans that are itching to go for impeachment. it's a big mistake, don't take the bait. let this dribble out and get the facts and be absolutely ironclad in your evidence, then you have a reason to even expect some democrats will vote with you because they won't have a choice not to. beth elizabeth gentlemen, thanks

for helping us out, it's a pleasure having you on. good to see you. >> thank you. elizabeth: back with us now, former assistant secretary of the treasury, monica crowley, and e.j. antoni with the heritage foundation. monica, the white house spent hours today saying bidenomics is working and turning the economy around, it says. biden is cutting energy costs, but inflation for august came in hotter than expected for the second straight month. what do you think of all this? >> yeah, you know, the white house is trying to put lipstick on this economic pig, but it's still a pig, and most of the american people understand that. poll after poll, liz, shows that about two-thirds of the american people disapprove of president biden's handling of the u.s. economy. two out of three americans are living paycheck to paycheck. and three-quarters of the american people have a negative view of the overall economy. since joe biden took office, prices have are risen 17.4%, and real wages are down 3.1%.

so the american people are living this economy on the ground every day. they're or horrified by it. they're struggling to make ends meet. and you know what is really negative for joe biden going into next year is the fact that the american people don't have to reach back 40 years to the booming reagan economy to remember a thriving economic situation for themselves and their families, they just have to reach back three years, pre-covid, to the booming trump economy. and that spells political disaster for joe biden and the democrats. meth elizabeth what monica just said -- meth -- elizabeth: what monica just said, e.j.. blaming d.c. runaway spending and biden underi cutting u.s. energy. what do you think? >> i think that's shot on, liz. this entire inflation disaster has been brought about by the government spending, borrowing and creating too much money. it's exactly as it has been in decades past. 40 years ago when we we had these levels of inflation, the

formula was exactly the same. and as this administration has created this runaway spending and these blowout deficits, we have seen a repeat of the disasters that we saw under the carter regime. elizabeth: you know, so when you see -- the the question is, will the fed raise rates again, monica. we're dealing with a triple whammy of inflation, you know, basically rising interest rates, possible taxes going up. gasoline accounts for over half the increase in the inflation number today. the census bureau, monica, says the median income of households again fell in 2022 for the third straight year. and you know what's getting hit hard? the midwest. they fell more, it fell by a stunning nearly 5%, 4.7. also in the northeast. so this is going the affect the swing states, monica. >> yeah. i mean, you just, liz, talked about the geographical breakdown of those getting hit, and when you look at more of a demographic breakdown of who's getting squeezed the most by the

failures of biden economics and sky-high gas prices, sky-high consumer prices across the board, record consumer debt, it is the middle class, the working class and the poor. those are the same groups that the democrats profess to champion all the time, and yet those are the ones who are getting hurt the most. elizabeth: you know, "the washington post," e.j., says president biden should not run again. that's david ignatius saying that. he usually writes positive stories and columns about biden. he's saying the liabilities is, is his age and cam rah a harris. let's -- kamala harris. let's listen to governor ron desantis on this and watch the media on this. watch. >> the presidency's not a job for someone that's 80 years old. i think there's a lot of americans that are going to want to see a generational passing of the torch. >> let me just say democrats off the air will say joe biden's too old, why is he running. on the air they won't say that. >> a recent cnn poll shows that roughly three-quarters of

americans say they are worried about president biden's age and how it might affect his ability to serve out another full term. that actually includes 49% of democrats who say that the president's age is their biggest concern. elizabeth: yeah. seven out of ten the democrats say he shouldn't run again. e.j., what do you think of this? >> i would love to know where all of these people were in the last election because all of the mental problems that joe biden is demonstrating on a daily basis he was demonstrating back then as a well, but i somehow if it wasn't a problem. i'm curious to know what changed. elizabeth: monica, e.j., wish we had more time with you guys. love the conversation. okay. still ahead, we've got former economic adviser to president trump, he's steve moore, tech pro jake denton the, dr. marty ma a car key -- makary with us, also james carafano.

the new mexico attorney general says he will not defend democrat governor michelle grisham over her unconstitutional suspension of second amendment gun rights. plus, media critics call out the networks for refusing to mention and report that that murderer in pennsylvania who's now caught, he's an illegal immigrant from brazil. something like nearly 12 the 0 minutes of air time spent covering the story, no mention of that angle. we're going to take it on next on "the evening edit." >> you can only imagine if the pennsylvania killer was photographed wearing a red maga hat. it just ain't happening, the media isn't reporting on that for a very obvious reason, to protect the president, this administration and democrats in general. ♪ ♪

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elizabeth: okay, the update on that big news of the day, the hunt for an a escaped murderer in pennsylvania is finally over. authorities captured cavalcante after a two week manhunt. he's an illegal alien from brazil. fox news' nate foy has been all over it, a he's in pennsylvania with the latest. nate. >> reporter: hey, liz. so after 14 days, 2 tense weeks, the manhunt for danilo cavalcante is finally over after

authorities captured hum about 8:00 this morning. they overcame some obstacles. take a look at new pictures that hoe how everything played out. a border patrol dog was the first one to go in to hold cavalcante down. tactical agents from border patrol and state troopers then took him into custody. troopers they say picked up on a heat signal at about 1 a.m. after a home alarm went off within the search perimeter, but bad we've forced helicopters and helicopterrers and drones to pull back. tactical agents performed what's call a lay-in, and they waited throughout the night embracing the elements during a lightning storm and surrounding cavalcante before the convicted killer made one final attempt to escape. >> he began to crawl through thick underbrushing taking his rifle with him as he went. one of the customs and border patrol teams had a dog with them. the dog subdued him, and team

members from both of those teams immediately moved in. he continued to resist but was forcibly taken into custody. >> reporter: liz, take a look at cavalcante's new mug shot here. he's now i in a state prison facility in collegeville, pennsylvania, which is in montgomery county, each of where all this played out in chester county. sources tell fox news the tactical teams expected cavalcante to use a rifle that he stole monday night from from a garage within the search perimeter. however, they were able to the capture him without a single shot being fired. back to you, liz. elizabeth: okay, thank you, nate foy. let's get reaction from congressman greg steube from house ways and means. it's good to see you again, congressman. so he's been on the run. he's within wanted for years in brazil. he's an illegal alien. what do you make of this story? >> yeah. and, you know, mainstream media's not reporting about that fact. and i want to commend law enforcement for their good work

here to take another murderer off our streets, but those type of people wouldn't be in our country if it weren't for the open border the biden administration has allowed in our country. there's, like, 6500 illegal immigrants that border patrol was ordered to release. that's the type of behavior that has caused murderers, rapists and terrorists, 70-something terrorists, more than that now that have come into our country that are on the terrorist watch list all because of joe biden's policies. elizabeth: you know, congressman, so there's -- it just feels like craziness, out of control. voters want to feel safe. they don't feel safe under this white house. and then you see what's going on in new mexico. let's get your reaction to this breaking news. the new mexico democrat attorney general, the attorney general for the state of new mexico, says he will not, he's not going to defend democrat governor grisham against any lawsuits over her unconstitutional suspension of second amendment gun rights. you know, she -- people are

scared. she declared a public if health emergency and unilaterally suspended those gun rights. what do you make of the a.g. saying he's not going to defend her? >> well, good, and thanks to some democrats who are actually standing up to her and saying this is completely unconstitutional, you know? i've said all along that they, democrats like to use these powers, these emergency powers, we saw that with covid and the lockdowns and all of that to exercise authorities that they don't have. you have a constitutional right to the second amendment and a one person, a governor can't waive that because they view some type of an emergency. you can't waive constitutional rights. and it's actually surprising that you're seeing democratic sheriffs in new mexico, democratic members of congress standing up and saying, nope, you can't waive constitutional rights. so hopefully this will work itself out and she'll remove the order, but if not, there's, i'm sure, going to be lawsuits, and the court's going to find this is completely an unconstitutional abuse with of power. elizabeth: and, congressman,

final word. the new mexico attorney genre it rated, he said -- and he repeated what the governor, grisham, already admitted, that her suspense of second amendment rights, gun rights, will not stop, it won't stop criminals from still using guns, governor. i mean, excuse me, congressman. >> yeah. and that's the whole point. these policies don't prevent gun violence. taking away rights and taking away weapons from law-abiding citizens does nothing to curb the violence. that's, in fact, what you want, americans who have the ability to carry and protect themselves and others the ability to carry. elizabeth: got it. congressman steube, we look forward to having you back on the show. great to hear your insights. we'll see you, we hope, soon. now this big problem and backlash against today's big meeting in d.c. led by senator chuck schumer, why people having a problem with this meeting. it involved elon musk, mark zuckerberg and bill gates it's about the dangers of artificial

intelligence. and former economic adviser to president trump, he is the one and only steve moore, we've got former president trump going after biden's base bigtime, autoworkers and the uaw. they have yet to endorse biden. plus, we've not that 99 11 call of the family calling the cops on energy secretary jennifer granholm and her entourage. all that coming up on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪ >> tech: cracked windshield on your new car? bring it to safelite. my customer was enjoying her new car,

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hanging over the the detroit auto show where we are at the ev test track. i want you to listen to the uaw president describing how talks are going right now. >> you know, as we've told these companies, you know, to talk you've got to watch that clock, and it's going to run out. that's what happens when you wait million the last minute. can we get there? yes, we can, but they need to buckle down and get busy. we've got 48 hours, and that's not a lot of time to go the distance we need to go. >> reporter: the uaw wants a bigger chunk of the detroit three automakers' profits in the form of huge a raises for workers as well as a if 32-hour workweek and other demands. the automakers say as they're investing billions of dollars into electric vehicles, there's only so much they can offer. electric vehicles have been a sticking point in the contract talks. they're also a big focus of the awe auto show this year as -- auto show this year as you check

out an electric the hummer about to take off here. the biden administration is pushing electric vehicles on consumers, but ford's ceo jim farley told bret baier car buyers deserve options. >> electric vehicles for certain customers who don't travel the long distances, use it more commuting atmosphere that are wealthier, you know, it's a great duty cycle. the f-150 lightning is the best selling electric pickup in the u.s., and for those customers it works great, but it's not for everyone. we're going to offer customers a choice. >> reporter: last night farley said he was optimistic about reaching a deal with the united autoworkers union but, liz,s it is very hard to say how close ford and the other two auto makers actually are to reaching an agreement. and like we said, that strike is just is about one day away. elizabeth: we're at the 11th hour. grady trimble, whoa. thanks for that. joining us now, former economic

adviser to president trump, steve moore. steve, when you heard that report and now you see that trump is hammering away at a biden on all this, trump's hoping to pull away labor union workers, autoworkers, pull away the uaw to get swing states like michigan. the uaw has yet to endorse biden. how do you put this all together? >> i think there are two issues, liz, for the united autoworkers. one is that just like all of us have been, union workers and autoworkers have been hammered by biden inflation. we saw yesterday that report showing that people's incomes continue to fall behind the rate of inflation. and these uaw workers, i feel for them. they've been really hammered by these adverse biden policies. and then you have another factor at play here, and i've talk to some of the uaw members. they're unhappy that the biden administration's basically forcing, essentially forcing or at least bribing these companies like ford and gm to make only

electric vehicles. and they're afraid that many of the jobs are not going to be here in the united states. and so i find myself in some sympathy the with these uaw potential strikers. they've been really hurt by biden's policies. elizabeth: yeah. let's listen, you know, that 99 11 call, we've got it from that family who called the cops on energy secretary granholm and her entourage for blocking a charging station so the secretary could use it to charge her electric car. he blocked the spot with a gas-powered car. watch this. >> hi, i'm calling because i'm in the walmart at the charging station, and there's literally a non-electric car that is taking up a space, they said they're holding the space for somebody else, and it's holding up a whole bunch of people that need to charge their cars. but other people who are waiting to charge and they're e still here, and they're not an electric car. and the sign says it has -- the you can't park here unless you're charging. elizabeth: okay. even pete buttigieg says he

can't find charging stations. now the white house is going to be spend $100 million in tax money on charging stations with this bombshell. i want to talk to you about this, the energy department, steve, it now says the amount of u.s. land that the biden white house needs for biden's total 100% electrification of the entire u.s. economy by 2035, it's actually nine times what the biden white house initially claimed. it's not 15,000 square miles for solar farms and skyscraper wind turbines, it's 134,000 square miles. just for the wind farms alone. that doesn't even take into account the connectivity infrastructure for the power plants. i mean, time and time again we see this biden white house misleading the american people as they jam down their throats things they do not want. >> well, you know, there's another element to the story, and everything you said, liz, is true. but where are the green groups, the environmental groups that care about our wilderness and

care about our natural beauty of our great, great country? you know the problem with windmills and solar panels is, as some of my friends who are genuine environmentalists say, this is crazy. we're going to industrialize the entire landscape of america. look, you can build a nuclear power plant on, you know, less than one square mile. you can have a gas plant or an oil plant, same thing, less than a mile. you have to have thousands and thousands of miles of win mills and solar panels. -- windmills. so it's not even greed. not only are they not economical, those windmills that you see barely turning, but it's also not a green policy. it's going to do great damage to the natural beauty. that's why if you look at the offshore areas in massachusetts, all those upscale, liberal democrats, they don't want the windmills offshore because it spoils the beautiful view. elizabeth: yeah. we don't want that environmental destruction in our backyard,

right, steve? exactly. elizabeth: we've got new whistleblower claims now public about the cia investigation into the origins of covid. you're going to want to hear this story. the cia tried to pay off investors to change their findings? really? also tech giants including elon musk, mark zuckerberg, bill gates on capitol hill, but a big backlash against this closed door meeting that chuck schumer led about the dangers of artificial intelligence. we're going to explain it next on "the evening edit." ♪ >> it's the important for us to have a referee, just as you have a referee at a sports game or all sports games, the games are better for it. i think this meeting may go down in history as being very important for the future of civilization. ♪ ♪

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- call the number on your screen. elizabeth: okay, let's get you updated on this story. there was a glitzy meeting of tech titans in d.c. today. elon musk, mark zuckerberg, bill gates, they're talking about how to regulate the most powerful technology the earth has ever seen, artificial intelligence. but why did they do it behind closed doors? hillary vaughn has the story on capitol hill. hillary. >> reporter: good evening, liz. well, i can tell you today's forum was about listening, not really about laws. while this is a chance for tech titans to get face time and tie to guide future regulation in a way that doesn't hurt their bottom line, because the people in this room already worth billions stand to make billions more from artificial intelligence. but the dark cloud over all this is how much of a threat a.i. is to the human race, so i elon

musk how worried should we be? is a.i. going to kill us all, mr. musk? >> i hope not. [laughter] [inaudible conversations] i think, i think finish. >> -- make him protect us from artificial intelligence. >> think of the future as a series of possibilities -- probabilities as opposed to certainties. there's some chance that. a.i. will kill us all. i think it's low, but there's some chance. >> reporter: the other concern in the short term, putting people out of work. id asked sam altman of openai if that's a big concern. what about putting a lot of people out of work? >> there will be -- there always is changes in the labor market with technological revolutions, but i firmly believe there'll be great new jobs than before. i mean, all jobs are at stake in some sense, right? >> reporter: some lawmakers had a problem this was not open to the public or press. senator josh hawley called it a cocktail party for rich people. senator warren, a big tech

critic, also not impressed. >> they're sitting at a big round table all by themselves, all of the senators are to sit this and ask no questions. that's the setup. it's the giant tech companies that are the only ones in america who get the the special deal, and that is because of section 230. >> reporter: so even though there was about 550 billion of net worth combined in that room today, it doesn't seem like they won over any hearts or minds that were skeptical of them when they walked in. liz? elizabeth: hillary vaughn, great reporting as always. let's bring in tech expert jake tenton from the heritage foundation -- denton. jake, why did they do this behind closed doors? you just heard elon musk say there could be a chance a.i. kills us all and puts us out of jobs. how can chuck schumer saying this closed door meeting where the press couldn't coffer it, even senators could not ask questions, they're saying this

is just plain wrong. >> yeah, you know, and the justification that we received for why this was behind closed doors was so that senators felt comfortable asking questions that might come across as a silly or uneducated. they really didn't want to be scrutinized. and then we come to find out they had to presubmit questions. they really just had to sit and listen to these tech oligarchs lobby them on the future. and, you know, this can't go on this way. we have to have open discussions on a.i -- elizabeth: jake, what would you have asked them if you were there? >> i think one with of the biggest elephants in the room here is about the privacy protections, right in we still have no indication of where these inputs are going, you know? and it's gone as far as congress has actually restricted the ability of their own staffers to use this, the free version of chatgpt in their offices. and, you know, why is that? why is it okay for the average individual to continue using that free version with those privacy concerns but not our lawmakers, right? we need to get e these answers. and they're getting these

softball questions from the leadership, and it's really unacceptable. elizabeth: so do you think a regulatory body that licenses will protect it? i mean, protect us? senator josh hawley says that basically, you know, they're taking their cues from the guys who are part of the problem. >> you know, it may be necessary in the future to establish a regulatory body, but really what it looks like right now is the senators are eager to kish -- dish this off to another government body. they're so anxious about getting out in front of this issue and taking a shot to regulate these big companies that they would rath or spin up a new government agency. and it is the their responsibility to handle this. elizabeth: but nobody in the media can cover it, senators can't even ask questions? this is not how america is run. it's wrong to do it this way. jake denton, you're terrific. we'll have you back on again soon. now this story, did you see this? china's now saber rattling in a big way, threatening a possible invasion of taiwan just days after president biden claimed

china was too economically weak to invade. plus, dr. marty makary coming up on the cia vehemently denying its cia cover-up, denying whistleblower claims the cia paid cia analysts to say the covid is pandemic did not leak out of a lab. but first, we want to check in with our buddies dagen and sean, we want to hear what's on "the bottom line" next hour. sean: is the congress going to fund the administration that is at war with half of america? congressman scott perry's going to the answer that as well as douglas murray with dem in-fighting on the migrant crisis taking over liberal cities. dagen: leo terrell, he will hit back, i am sure, saying ron desantis the, is president trump too old to run for the presidency? and tammy bruce, she's always fired up about everything. how about that burbank mayor? uh-huh, top of the hour.fa sean: thank you.ll ♪

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elizabeth: joining us now, dr. marty makary. this is a crazy story, we've got brad wenstrup, chair of house subcommittee on the pandemic, and mike turner, chair of house intelligence, saying that the cia whistleblower basically is saying the cia paid cia analysts to change their findings in the

covid-19 origins probe to say the pandemic did not leak out of a lab in china. what is going on here? >> well, this would be consistent with what we've seen at other agencies, it would be consistent with the scientists who told dr. fauci in a private nih meeting that they believed it came from the lab and then changed their tune soon after. there were six people at the cia who were in charge of looking into this. all of them believed it came from the wuhan lab except for the senior most person, and that person -- we don't know if they were getting instructions are from somewhere else, but representative wenstrup, who is a physician, is asking for all the documents including bonuses paid to those six people for changing their tune can which the the a allegation of the whistleblower. elizabeth: that's a heck of an education. -- allegation. we had the fbi director with moderate can have saying it did leak out of the lab in china. and these half a dozen cia analysts were prepared to say the same thing.

but then reportedly they're allegedly given money to change their tune? >> yeah, that's the allegation. and we'll find out. we're going to hear the direct testimony of that whistleblower most likely and perhaps some of the others. we're going to get more information. but it is curious that while the entire united states was wondering what's happening with this novel coronavirus or at the beginning of the pandemic, what was happening behind the scene ises was a massive effort -- scenes was a massive effort to convince people that it did not come from the wuhan lab at the nih, at the state department and it looks like at the intelligence agencies as well. and final point, why is it even classified where it came from? people have a right to know. this is, this should be public information in the spirit of full transparency. elizabeth: yeah. let's talk about transparency because you're going to see this reporter, journalist, ask state department spokesman matt miller about taxpayer money spent in china to create pandemic viruses in laboratories that can kill a

lot of people. watch the reaction here. watch. >> how much money went from usaid to this, to the work at wuhan and to their collaborator, really barrett, at the university of north carolina? to create -- to collect and make coronaviruses that are weaponized, that are more deadly? >> so i, first of all, reject the implicit accusation in that question, and i do not have -- i do not, i do not have at my fingertips the particular details. elizabeth: how can they brush this aside, doctor? how can they not is have the details? how come this is not a hair on fire moment for the biden white house and all of washington that has been stories in china are making pandemic viruses? you and i have been talking about this for three years, and to this day you get that still, get that kind of reaction, doctor. >> well, look, he didn't answer the question with.

the answer was tens of millions of dollars, and it was well documented. it's no secret. they just didn't want to admit to it because it made dr. fauci look bad. the pandemic was a season of american history when people just went with their guy. i like guy because he doesn't like the other guy or that guy i don't like, so i'm going to the guy who's against him, and that's how intellectually dishonest people were. if folks actually looked at where we spend money, they would see a lot more shocking things like the wuhan lab funding. elizabeth: got it. dr. makary, always terrific. >> thanks. elizabeth: coming up, we've got a veteran, retired lieutenant colonel james carafano. did to you hear about this, guys? the secretary of the air force saying china is prepared for war9 with the u.s. really? also we're going to take on china threatening a taiwan invasion, this just days after president biden claimed china was too economically weak to invade. it's coming up on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪

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look who's back with the intelligence could not be here, china is preparing for war with the u.s. and not inevitable, what is going on?

>> forget about intelligence assessment, look at unclassified information. china is developing the capabilities to have war with the united states and is not defensive war. as an offense of work to take it to the united states. look at their strategic capabilities and military spending and investments which were part of the united states so of course they are following this. this is not like germany in 1914 or 1939, this is not we are going to attack somebody at a set date in the future, this is much more like with the soviet union did, build massive offensive capability and use it to threaten other people but there might come a day of enemies look weak or we might use that. >> how? >> by going on conventional war against the united states or allies in someplace.

if you want peace, prepare for war, the way to send that threat is not to put your head in the sand, not to dismiss the intake the chinese economy is slowing down, or it makes no sense, it's to build the conventional strategic turn capability some of the chinese look at the numbers and they go this is not smart. we've done that germany in 1939, they would never have marched. >> china yesterday unveiled a plan to deepen integration between china and taiwan talking about the benefits of cooperation, china is sending warships around taiwan dozens of warplanes. they are doing a show of military might and created new military branches to counter air force carriers, that's one branch strategic support service to achieve dominance in space and cyber domains, that's what china is doing, amassing forces

at coastal basis. taiwan is saying is a deep threat. >> i do know about you but when i heard about the integration plan, i thought it was but th this -- china is really doing this and does it mean they plan on and invasion in the near future? the answer is, we don't think so. experts talk to don't think so because there's lots of reasons why china can do this. first, when you do all of this operationally, you build capability to do it someday if you want to so do you plan to invade tomorrow or not, planes and airplanes and logistics out there, that's -- >> but taiwan says china has begun probing taiwan on a territory in the near daily basis. >> as part of building the operation capability to invade if you want to someday.

it's also a way of intimidating taiwan in this activity and let's get along plan is part of the chinese plan to influence the election. it plays well domestically but here is the flipside to all of this. they may not invade tomorrow but they created enough of a threat and credible threat where we would be idiots to ignore this and not focus on the defensive. >> thank you for joining us, it's good to see you. thank you for watching, i'm elizabeth macdonald. you have been watching "the evening edit" on foxbusiness. we hope you enjoy the show, breaking news and headlines tomorrow night as well. let's take it over to the bottom line with dagen and sean, a hot chauffeur you. >> thanks. ♪ 's