inflation they use something called owners equivalent rent and it is very smooth. the numbers today are reflecting what happened two years ago. liz: okay. >> so i think we need to realistically look at the inflation rate. it is not 3.7. it is below the fed's target at two, to increase rates doesn't make any sense. it will push us potentially into a hard landing and nobody want as hard landing. >> i know a lot of people who would agree with you but i know the fed is concerned making an error, stopping too early, cap bell harvey, thank you very much. [closebell rings] arm closing up 24% from its opening day debut. that is smash hit out of the ballpark. we'll see what it does tomorrow. ♪. larry: hello, folks, welcome to "kudlow," i'm larry kudlow. house speaker kevin mccarthy has declared an impeachment inquiry

on the biden's family culture of corruption. so as a non-lawyer i thought i would make a little list, maybe to assist the house efforts and in my own very small way. we do have oversight chairman james comer, he is going to be here in just a second. he has been designated the lead in the inquiry. he will be on the show in just a few moments but maybe he will give some thought to my lilies and of course he has got the big list which is what really matters. parenthetically i could talk more about rising prices and falling family incomes, also rising poverty. this is all the failure of joe "bidenomics." he is out defending "bidenomics" today. we'll have that later on in the show. aaa national gasoline up to $3.86, on its way to four. oil markets $93 a barrel on the way to 100.

this is killing working class working families. killing low income people, it is reducing wages. look it, refined petroleum products per meet permeate the entire economy, people i don't think appreciate that. it affects hundred of prices. joe biden's war on fossil fuels, jacked up prices on almost everything played into the hands of the opec plus crowd that includes all our great friends like iran, venezuela, russia and the saudis. that whole story is sheer insanity, but having said all of that about the failure of "bidenomics" bear with me while i go back to my small contribution to chairman comer's investigation of the biden culture of corruption. according to various report nine family members received foreign money from places like china, russia, ukraine, romania, kazakhstan, including even one grandchild. half the money was given to papa joe according to son hunter.

10% of various deals were given to the big guy according to tony bobulinski. at least 20 calls made to various hunter biden clients and colleagues to papa joe in the oval office or the white house. that according to devon archer. senior irs whistle-blowers testified to repeated examples of political interference by the justice department and the fbi in their various tax investigations of hunter and his companies. by the way hunter just got busted today on three counts of felony gun charges with a maximum penalty of 25 years in prison. all right. meanwhile the whistle-blowers also produced a whatsapp message where son hunter threw a temper tantrum at his chinese communist investors in order to pay up a multimillion-dollar sum and then hunter revealed that papa joe was sitting right next to him.

called that up close and personal extortion. a senior fbi informant reported that the ceo of ukrainian oil company burisma was extorted by papa joe to the tune of five million bucks for papa and another five million for the son as a bribery scheme to get rid of the ukrainian prosecutor viktor shokin and there is an audiotape floating around that allegedly proves but the fbi and who knows who else is either blocking it or burning it or just dropping it into the danube river, who knows. then poor shokin lost his job because of a last minute papa joe intervention even though the u.s. state department and the european counterparts all signed off on ukraine's corruption reforms led by shokin. meanwhile devon archer has testified that the biden family brand was influence peddling. so in my non-lawyerly way seems

influence peddling is very big theme in all of this, side by side with bribery and the culture of corruption and of course papa joe lied to the public for years in denying known of his son's business dealings. i saved that one for last because it really is the lowest hanging fruit in this story. again, i'm just making a small contribution to this grand story called the biden impeachment inquiry. many of these charges are allegations but many of them have been factually proven and the failure of "bidenomics" is not an allegation. it is backed up by hard evidence but charges of bribery, extortion, influence peddling, politicalization of our justice system and the corruption in the justice department and the fbi, those are far greater crimes against american democracy and far worse than the breakdown of "bidenomics" and that is my riff.

now, let's bring in the truly important player with the truly important inquiry list. that's being oversight chairman, our friend james comer of kentucky. mr. comer, as always, chairman comer, we appreciate your time. you've always been very, very kind to this show and we are grateful for it. i don't know if you heard my little list but i walked through things, working through a story in the "washington times" this morning, you probably saw it, you will start quickly now as head of this impeachment inquiry and you will be going after more and more bank accounts. this is one of your original triumph to unlock that. can you tell us more about the bank accounts, who is going to block you on this, what authority you have, or may not have, sir? >> well i think we laid out the case, larry. everything you said was 100%

accurate. almost every fact you stated wasn't known prior to us launching this investigation in january. all of those facts were learned through our investigation on the house oversight committee. now this week speaker mccarthy granted us impeachment inquiry and this is a very important tool in the tool box. this will help us when we go to court to get some of these bank records. this will help the judge, force the judge to have to rule quicker. also trumps executive privilege if the bidens try to say anything we were trying to get they couldn't have because of executive privilege and it also allows to us get things like grand jury testimony. there is a precedence where jerry nadler was leading the pipe pipe impeachment inquiry from donald trump. they were requesting information because they couldn't hand it over it was grand jury testimony and the judge ruled because of the impeachment inquiry nadler

could then have it. this is a tool we needed to move forward. we're going next after two things. first of all the bank accounts of hunter biden and jim biden because we believe as you have seen the arrows where we show from countries like china, romania, russia, iranian, there are arrows through these shell companies. then they end up in nine different biden personal bank accounts. we want to look at the personal bank accounts to see if there are any arrows beyond that to pay for things of value for joe biden. the other thing we want to use impeachment inquiry to force agencies to turn over correspondence. we requested all the emails in the pseudonyms. we know there were 5400 of those. one pertained to ukrainian policy and hunter biden was copied on it. these are things we need and i believe with the new impeachment inquiry we'll get it much quicker. larry: i want to clarify this point because some people were disputing it yesterday. the declaration of an

impeachment inquiry does in fact give you enhanced subpoena and other powers, that correct, sir? >> that is 100% correct, sir. larry: i don't know why they were bringing up memorandas written a few years ago or your response to tall of that, you're saying, no, no, we'll have this new authority and the other thing i want to ask you do you need to bring, let's take the biden family, okay? nine members of the family, hunter, his father's brother, all these others, one of them is a grandchild for heaven's sakes. >> yeah. larry: in order to get their bank accounts or financial records, chairman comer, do you need to subpoena them to appear before the committee under oath? how is that going to work? >> we believe we can just subpoena the bank records. i've subpoenaed banks for that. so it's unclear who the direct subpoena would be with. we're still evaluating that but more than likely it will be to

the bank for the bank records. we anticipate abby lowell and the big expensive legal team that the bidens have no one ever said who is paying for their very expensive legal fees will fight us in court and what their original strategy would have been to tie it up in court forever and run the clock out but with that new impeachment inquiry designation, it will force the judge to have to move much quicker than a normal ordinary case. larry: i remember you uncovered the suspicious bank accounts in the treasury department. is there, i mean that was in some sense, you know, the first major breakthrough but -- >> right. larry: are you going too do more of that? and, chairman, i want do ask you in conjunction with the suspicious bank accounts, a lot of banks, banks themselves have filed suspicious accounts. i want wonder are they helping

you, obstructing you? sounds like they would be happy to unburden themselves and show all of this stuff to you? >> the banks have been very helpful with the shell companies. now we're getting into the personal biden bank accounts. larry: ah. >> we suspect that the lawyers have already warned the banks against handing anything over to us but we're going to give the banks another chance and we'll see. so i'm withholding judgment on the banks but thus far all the banks have been very cooperative and thus far, 100% of the banks have turned over after they were subpoenaed all the information that we requested. larry: is it necessary and or do you plan to call hunter biden, to subpoena hunter biden, to subpoena james biden or subpoena other family members? but i think everybody is interested whether you will subpoena hunter biden who as you know got busted today, got indicted today on three counts of gun felonies. i don't know if you have thought on that too? >> you know, we're getting a lot

of questions because there is a couple of members of congress that are criticizing us for not subpoenaing hunter biden yet. i want to look at his bank records. that's what we said this investigation was about. we'll follow the money. once we get the personal bank records then i would like to ask hunter biden questions about various transactions. without the bank records i don't know hunter biden personally but from what all the investigations i've done thus far of him, looking at his laptop i wouldn't believe a darn thing he said. we want to have the evidence in front of us in the form of bank statements. so the bank statements are the next step. we'll follow the money. if it leads us to hunter biden, then we'll subpoena hunter biden. larry: again i'm not a lawyer, but i think follow the money is the absolute right strategy. following the money doesn't lie, okay? following the money is hard, hard ass evidence is what that is. you've been on that from day one, i think that has been the success, if you stay on that i think it will be fabulous.

the other question is, you and jim jordan i think, you went to speak to the senate republican conference and again in "the washington times" piece my friend kevin cramer, senator cramer said you actually had great support. there were no dissent. people were offering positive suggestions. so sounds to me like the republican party is a united party behind this impeachment inquiry you are leading? >> 100%. the media is trying to create a narrative there is opposition, that there are doubters. i have not had anyone come up to me to express doubt about the need for impeachment inquiry. we presented to all the republican senators yesterday. we probably took questions from at least 20 senators. not a single senator who spoke said anything negative, all very positive, very encouraging. they had good questions but they encouraged us to continue down the path we are to be mature, to be fair, to be accurate, to

produce evidence, to be transparent and that's what we're doing. that is what we'll continue to do. larry: yes, sir. follow the money. i think you're dead on right. chairman, james comer. thank you for your time sir, i know you're busy. we appreciate it very much. >> thanks for having me. larry: anytime. coming up next on "kudlow," president joe biden just said, got to get this just said, he said we climbed out after great economic crisis. so i'm asking what crisis and what climb? we're going to talk about it with david bahnsen and e.j. antoni when "kudlow" returns. plus don't forget, fox business will be hosting the second republican primary debate at the ronald reagan presidential library in simi valley, california, wednesday, september 27th, 9:00 p.m. earn. the "kudlow" show crew will be out there. we'll do it live. we'll do a show, a predebate show. we'll follow it all and i'm

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and that's how, that is not how it should be. larry: i don't know what he is talking about. honestly i don't know what he is talking about. it was almost incoherent, benefiting the rich, climbing out, what are we climbing out from? he was handed a roaring economy with no inflation on a silver platter. joining me to talk about this, a few other subjects, stock market did very well, whatever was up, almost 350 point, we have david bahnsen, managing partner of the bahnsen group, author of, there is no free lunch. antoni, e.j. antoni, public economy. at heritage foundation, welcome. ej, what is he talking about? what did we climb out of? we climbed out of a six 1/2% growth rate in first quarter of 2021, 1 1/2 or less inflation rate. he proceeded to decimate high inflation. that is coming back down,

although maybe the wrong direction. maybe, i'm just saying what is he talking about? who is benefiting. >> larry, your guess is as good as mine. who is benefiting? the donor class, no one else. amazing this president who says he is for the little guy, that he doesn't want to raise taxes on those earning less than $400,000 a year, about building, what is it middle out, bottom up. larry: biddle out, bottom up. middle is going down and bottom is going down. >> as a matter of fact, lowest two quartile of earners are doing terrible. their wages have fallen under this president. larry: david bahnsen, do you have anything to add to that or disagreement? i mean i think "bidenomics" is a failure. hire's my point. you can look at a million pieces of data or you can look at something of gdp. gdp is something that really doesn't affect ordinary people. what's killing him in the polls and in the economy is the affordability failure.

affordability continues to decline. >> that's right. larry: you're working harder and buying less with your money and you know, may be oil now or food. people can exclude that from these indexes but that is what people use. >> i used to say the stocks market was the best indicator whether or not a person would get elected or incumbent party would, i did a study, 93% of the time for 100 years. real income, real wages is 100% of the time. i think that is the biggest factor. if prices were higher, wages were higher than that it wouldn't matter as much but to your doesn't the bottom deciles of wage earners were going up in the prior administration. larry: a lot. >> real wages were going higher. i think the big etf issue to my, sometimes i think presidents get blame they don't deserve. bad circumstances, bad timing, macro, geopolitical. energy is the problem i have. i think he could have done something about it. he didn't. he did the opposite. could have continued energy

independence prior administration. i chose to go in the other direction. it doesn't hurt people like my that much. it hurts bottom earners a lot. larry: we're looking did trump hand i am a 6 1/2% growth rate, less than 1 1/2% inflation rate. i believe it was about 50-dollar oil and it was about $2.30 at pump. that is the stuff people use, food prices come commensurately low. food is very much related to energy because of fertilizers. we heard that the hard way. this is stuff where they failed. talk a minute about the stock market which -- all right, today you had higher than expected ppi, softer than expected retail sales particularly after revisions. you had higher than expected cpi. e.j. antoni what does all that mean in your judgment? >> i think that inflation is showing this economy is nowhere near as good as the headline numbers are indicating. in other words, as soon as you

adjust foreprices things are not looking good at all. retail inventory report came out is perfect example of that. on paper it is record high, things look great. ones you adjust for prices you find the inventories are only bigger in nominal terms. in real terms it is the same level as august of last year and same level as of october of 2019. so things are not by any means doing well. larry: david, come back on the stock market. very bad last year. recovering this year. >> yeah. larry: a little jumpy. today was a good day. i'm told ipo for chipmaker driving stocks up over 300 points. what is your assessment about the stock market? how do you see it? >> i think the s&p, tech-heavy, seven companies driving most of returns, nasdaq, high-tech frothy. high valuations. hard to see how valuations move

higher. earnings growth might be flat year-over-year. it will not be up much but in fairness it was not down as much as many predicted. year over year down four or 5%. that is not recessionary. people thought they would be down 15, 20%. markets are good. the dow is a better tie diversified look at whole economy and profits. larry: profits are multiples too expensive? >> s&p, yes. larry: 20 times in the s&p. >> 20 times in the s&p, and really high with big tech, really high. consumer staples, utilities, boring companies i like as a boring person they're less sensitive and more realistic. i want to say something to your point he inherited this economy, on real wages joe biden said fascinating a couple months ago, he said since covid began real income, wages are higher. he took office a year later. why would a politician pick a date nothing to do with their term in office? it is true real wages are higher

since 2019. he wasn't president two of those four years. larry: actually we just saw the latest income numbers, real incomes, median families, adjusted for inflation are about $4,000 lower than the pre-pandemic peak under trump. that is a big number. >> that's right, pre-pandemic peak. larry: kevin hassett, tyler good body, larry kudlow corporate tax cuts. we always argued that middle income people and lower income people would be the biggest beneficiaries of the corporate tax cuts because more profitable companies after tax are going to have more money for wages and more money to hire and all the dopes on the left do not understand that because they hate profits, right, and they hate corporations anyway and hate capitalism but i don't even need to put that in. so kevin hassett would be a 4,000-dollar real increase in incomes, that is exactly what happened, revised higher with the latest census report, it was

5000. today with latest numbers through '22 biden is down four thousand bucks from pre-pandemic. it is not a good snow. aquila trying to give us the hook, in terms of the economy itself, ej, economy itself we're floating in middle ground, recession hasn't come, boom hasn't come, what is your take on that? >> i think we'll continue to have this stagnation for a while and inflation as well. there is your recipe for stagflation but as soon as the yield curve starts to normalize that's a big indicator not just that a recession is coming that it is coming real soon. so the inverted yield curve yes a good recession indicate door, as soon as it starts to normalize, that's when we know it is right around the corner. larry: david, bond rates up and down, 4.25 on 10-year what do you think? >> by when? larry: tomorrow, end of the year? >> i don't have sympathy short-term view. larry: year from now, by election, how about that?

>> by election bond yields will be lower. not merely inflation is coming down but growth is coming down. the market knows 10 years out we're not getting 4% real gdp growth. we'll be lucky to get 2% real gdp growth because we spent -- larry: i could get you to four, get you to four. >> you're not on the ticket. larry: liquid gold, reverse biden's new regulations, extend corporate tax cuts. >> more production of goods and services, more energy. larry: give entrepreneur as break after tax, after regulation, after the central planning and retire joe biden. oops, that was politics editorial. e.j. antoni, david bahnsen, thank you. my dentist, thank you, i survived this segment. coming up liz peek, she says president biden could destroy our auto industry thanks to his ev obsession. i got to tell you folks, a big

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get this, joe biden's misguided push for electric vehicles could destroy our auto industry. whoa. she joins us now to talk about that and much more. liz peek, syndicated columnist, fox news contributor, and, joe concha, media and politics columnist at the messenger and fox news contributor. we don't put your book up anymore. >> come on, man? larry: it was a good book. >> you loved title. larry: loved title. >> goes on for 20 minutes. larry: come on man, goes on from there. awful good book. i want to keep pushing it out there. >> thank you. larry: liz, what is the uaw going to do to our car business? >> that's a good question. joe biden is in a very difficult position here because the uaw are making demands basically unsustainable to the auto industry. 40% wage hikes. the auto industry gotten to 20%. they are very far apart but they may strike tonight.

the problem i see joe biden is pushing car companies to make more cars nobody wants. electric vehicles are not popular, why? because they're too expensive. price about $55,000 and an coin convenience about inadequate charging. with this uaw movement, we'll raise the cost structure of u.s. auto companies at the same time they're making more cars that are actually unprofitable. meanwhile in china they are now have the biggest ev producer in the world, company called byd i believe it is, that is the number one car producer making evs. they are now flooding into europe. they will start bringing those cars here. their cars are priced half of ours. larry: do you own one? >> what? larry: do you own one? have you ridden in one? >> teslas are great cars. joe biden hates tesla because they're made with non-union labor. this is something people have to look at. our auto industry is big part of

gdp. employs hundred of thousands of workers. i think this is really damaging our industry. larry: so, joe, the way i look at it politically, if there is a uaw strike tonight, looks like there will be, looks like they will go after selected factories from what i gather, although i don't have everything up to date you know what? that is not just a strike against big three car companies but a strike against joe biden and climate policies and evs the way i see it. it is a poke in in the eye strie against joe biden's crazy climate policies you. >> brought it up before, liz, i ask this question over and over again, in a logic sensed common sense society, how do you charge 280 million car owners in this country? >> is that right? >> yes. if i live in urban area how do i charge my car in new york or san francisco? no one can answer the question. everything is symbolism, go to

electric cars by 2035, people don't have the ability to charge these things particularly in closed environments. you are right about joe biden, what do elections come down to, states they come down to, mainly the midwest, michigan, trump won it in 2016, biden in 2020 very narrow margins. if this strike goes up a while, he would alienate workers that he needs to go up. uaw are insane demands they're making. 46% rate hike work week reduced to 32 hours. nobody can agree to this. if it does you're paying ransom. >> a defined benefit program. larry: they want to protect the workforce with outrageous demands. this feign guy, tough guy, militant guy all of that. if joe biden gets his way, there are no gas-powered cars in the next 10 years, it will

obliterate the united auto workers. >> for sure. larry: kevin hassett was on the show last week, smart fellow obviously. it costs 4 to 500,000 jobs, 4 to 500,000 jobs because evs only require roughly 0% of the work hours that a gas-powered car. >> right. larry: so on the one hand you can't blame the uaw for everything here because they're looking at the future. joe biden's climate future, ev future, is devastating to them. >> to be clear, you're going to have a net loss of jobs because of the switch to evs. there will be increases in jobs things like making batteries, larry. the problem they will be making batteries in states that don't require unionization. larry: i thought you were saying china. >> everyone is worried about all the raw materials and batteries coming into china, they should be more worried about the cars

coming in from china but that's a different topic. the reality all the people creating joint ventures to make batteries are moving into states where they don't need to hire union labor. that is really -- the uaw, i agree with you. they are angry, angry since joe biden pushed up the deadline to get rid of internal combustion engines. they're rightly angry, it is undermining the future of their union. i don't care about the union of the union, i think we need competitive auto industry any way you look at it. larry: i'm a right to work guy. >> i don't care about that. larry: joe biden's was suppose to be the most prounion. what happened, joe? >> $55,000 for cost of an average electric vehicle. you see numbers, 2/3 of american families can't afford a emergency of $500 or more. where is $55,000 coming from to buy a car that no one can afford in the voting blocs that biden

needs most particularly in the midwest? larry: terrific point. you both are terrific. liz peek, joe concha, uaw next. no. joining us now pennsylvania congressman scott perry, house freedom caucus and member of the house oversight committee. scott, thank you for coming on as you do. i remember, you came on this show, i don't know, is it a year ago, about your telephone, your cell phone. >> yep. larry: they were taking your cell phone away. i couldn't figure out why in god's name, what gave them authority to do that now if i understand it, i'm reading a article, one of them is in "the new york sun" but in other publications, the court ruled in your favor, an appeals court, somebody, something ruled in your favor that the government has no business taking the information from your phone. i don't know if that's true. we need you to explain it but it sounds like you had a big win and it sounds like special counsel jack smith may have a big loss regarding trump.

but make you can walk us through. you have the most famous cell phone in all of america. >> well, larry, thank you. it is a tremendous victory for the constitution and for all americans that have been targeted by this outrageous biden, you know, the abuse of power of the biden administration through the department of justice but in the constitution article i it says that members of congress our conversations with our colleagues, with our constituents are protected by a clause called speech and debate, so that the executive branch, the other branch of government, there are three remember, the other branch can't coerce us, can't use our speech and debate things we say, our opinions against us and, you know, this phone was seized. they wanted to look at all of that stuff, we said, hold on a second here, we can't have the executive branch coercing our conversations and punishing us for disagreeing with them, which is essentially what they're doing to conservatives and

particularly the last president every single day, punishing them for disagreeing. we said literally there is a clause in the constitution you can't do that. the judge in d.c., said, i don't recognize such a clause, i don't recognize what's in the constitution. the circuit court essentially said, no, the clause exists for a reason and you must follow the law. so we're going to see where this goes from here but, you know, the point is, too, larry, it makes you fight it out. it makes you pay all the money in attorney's fees, meantime your reputation is being destroyed so on, so forth, part and parcel what the left uses the department justice for when they intimidate people, destroy their reputations to try to drive them out of the public conversation, that is completely unacceptable f they're willing to do it to a member of congress who is protected literally the constitution in a separate clause what do you think they will do to larry kudlow or john smith on the street? the sky's the limit.

larry: so, scott, taking this a step further you, this court, whatever court, protecterred you with their legislative authority, they can't take all your information, all your paperwork, they can't strip your phone down, okay. now, does this carry over, some people say it does, but i'm not sure, i'm not a lawyer, does this carry over to the president, to donald trump, the take-care clause might come into play here, protecting executive immunity? you have legislative immunity. will he have executive immunity. i've argued, i understood, scott, just quickly president trump is exercising his first amendment rights of free speech, free speech. they cannot bust him for free speech. >> right. larry: he has an opinion. he may be right or wrong but he can't be busted for that opinion in this free country. >> right. larry: but does he have executive protection also and

does, you know, your victory mean he might be closer to a victory on a similar point? >> well, larry i'm not pan attorney either and i know these abuses by the biden administration will continue but the president needs to be able to talk to the people that work around him and receive information. larry: right. >> essentially have a conversation with them. otherwise nobody -- if there is always a threat that somehow you know, you will be prosecuted by this abuse of power source in the doj, then people aren't going to work for the president and president's not going to be able to get honest advice from his advisors or the people he talks to. people will not be willing to have a candid conversation which is why there is presidentially protected speech because the president has to be able to have candid conversations and have people have, let people have their opinions and not that be a criminal offense to the left and the democrats who make it a criminal offense when you do it

but when they do it it's free speech. it has to be free speech for everybody, not just the abuse of power by the democrats but we can all have opinions and like you said, some might be right, some might be wrong but that is the beauty of america and the first amendment. larry: you know some people like the red sox, some people like the yankees, but you don't go to jail for 700 years if you pick the wrong team. look this guy, jack smith is trying to bust president trump, former president trump, mostly for stuff trump said while he was still president. that is the whole january 6th thing. they're trying to bust him for that. that is your point. trump makes statements, he has advisors and counselors and lawyers. you can't do that. he was the president. you can't bust him for that. >> president or not, president or not he is an american citizen. we're allowed to express our thought and opinion by speaking, we're allowed to do that. larry: yeah, you're right, scott perry, you're so smart. by the way one of the reasons i

love you so much you're not a lawyer, that is the best part. thanks for coming back. >> good bless you larry. larry: most famous cell phone in america. coming up next, mr. david weiss, another special prosecutor as of now today indicted hunter biden own on three federal gun charges is that it? that is the whole nine yards? i'm not so sure. we'll ask smart lawyer will sharp. he is a former assistant u.s. attorney. stay right here. that's it? that is the whole thing? 25 years in jail. ♪. meet arexvy. ( ♪ ) the first fda-approved rsv vaccine. arexvy is used to prevent lower respiratory disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. rsv can severely affect the lungs and lower airways. arexvy is proven to be over 82% effective

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did say couple weeks ago by september 29th he would announce indictments of hunter biden. so today is whatever it is, september 14th i think. so he announced three gun charges which people tell me is 25 years. what's your take on these gun charges and can this be it? what about all the foreign, you know, foreign money stuff and foreign taxation stuff, will sharp? >> well that is exactly the right question to be asking, larry. i mean the gun charges are really the tip of the iceberg. hunt hears admitted in his autobiography he is guilty of these charges. they should have been brought up front. instead what we saw from weiss and his team an attempt to structure a deal in delaware federal court with hunter biden broader immunity for any further prosecution in return for any slaps on the wrist. i'm worried, america is worried

what we've seen is more of the same, willing to indict him on a couple of gun charges but letting hunter and rest of the biden family walk on more serious charges of influence peddling, tax evasion, foreign registry violations. to me that is the meat of this case. we haven't heard a people from the specs counsel's office on that yet. larry: that is to me as a non-lawyer, the foreign registration stuff, will, opens up a whole panoply of discussions of influence peddling, all the little llcs how that money was distributed to a grandchild and how allegedly half of it went to papa joe. that is the meat and potatoes of this. the gun charge, i'm glad they have done something but unless they have a full, and will, what about a jury trial? why not open this up to a jury trial and put hunter biden on the stand under oath?

>> yeah, i'm scared they will try to structure another sweetheart deal for this guy. what they tried to do last time around was immunize hunter, thereby immunize the entire biden family from exactly what you're talking about from burisma in ukraine, from millions of dollars flowing in from china. that's what they were trying to do, and unless we see more charges soon i'm scared they will let the entire biden family off, claim there is nothing to see here, and hope people go on their way. larry: jamie comer is going after the bank accounts, that's for sure, but i share your concerns about this david weiss wilmington, delaware stuff. this guy has no credibility. anyway, will scharf, appreciate your commentary as always. folks i will take a quick break and come back with my last word. ♪.

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