♪ ♪ ♪ we don't just have everything... we have your thing. ♪ ♪ larry: i think oversight chair jamie comer has it exactly right, follow the money. go after the bank accounts, they will not lie are. and, by the way, follow liz macdonald. elizabeth: thank you, larry. terrific show. thank you so much. larry: all right. elizabeth: okay. president biden again today botches it. this is off the hook incompetency. he today tried to distract away from growing calls he should not run again by attacking trump,

claiming bidenomics is better than trump-nomics. also, the uaw may strike at midnight. nancy pelosi refuses to back vice president kamala harris. we've got the update on hunter biden indicted today on federal gun charges and the latest on the house impeachment inquiry9 and the white house tries to criticize and attack new york city for mishandling biden's border crisis. and how can biden officials claim they can track the $6 billion they gave iran? also this, more democrats have conflicts of interest in biden's green energy if push. i'm elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ elizabeth: thanks for joining us. a new quinnipiac poll taken

before the latest inflation report showing it's trending higher, six out of ten disapprove of biden on the economy. six out of ten democrats seriously considering not voting for him. both "the washington post" and new york times running op-eds he should not run again, so what does president biden do? today he again attacked trump. edward lawrence live at the white house with more. edward. >> reporter: yeah. president joe biden blaming republicans and saying it would be worse if a republican were in the white house. listen. [no audio] >> because the country should know the facts. they should know the choice between bidenomics and maga-nomics. american growth and hope, and we're building for american lost jobs, raising fears maga republicans give us a few, they gave us a few short years ago. >> reporter: no, but yesterday with i pushed back against the economic spin here. listen to this.

we've now had two with inflation reports in a row where the headline inflation number has gone up. you couple that with real hourly wages are actually down from the day president biden took office about 3%. is that bidenomicss? >> yeah, i think we have disagreement with on the facts there, and we can show you cea's data on this. real wages are up relative to before the pandemic. they're up for all private sector workers, but they're up even more for production non-supervisory workers. in terms of the trend in inflation, i think we probably have a disagreement there as well. >> reporter: so gas prices are a large part of the increase you saw in the cpi. why is the president then restricting future growth of the oil industry? he made the decision -- or the interior department made the decision in alaska just last week. >> well, there are -- american oil production now is at an all-time high, just below 13 million barrels a day.

there are thousands of available permits, places where oil companies could drill. they've been highly profitable, they've been highly productive. so i don't think that's the problem. >> reporter: when it's bad news, everyone else is to blame. when it's good news, it's bidenomics, liz. elizabeth: edward lawrence, thank you so much. joining us now, laffer tengler investments ceo nancy tengler and wall street pro carol roth. nancy, president biden is claiming bidenomics is better. what do you say? >> well, liz, there's a lot of things you can blame president trump for, but i don't think the economy is one of them. and, you know, all you have to do is look back to the tax consistent jobs act. average american -- tax cut jobs act. average american home had $4400 more in their pocketbooks. real wages, as jared bernstein just described, is a little bit of an overstatement. that just emerged. americans got slaughtered in the last couple of years due to

rampant inflation, and that inflation came from fiscal spending that has been, you know, to the tune of trillions of dollars. we are hitting a level of 6% of gdp in terms of fiscal thrust this year, in 2024, that the norm is about 11-2. is so -- 1-2%. so when that fiscal thrust kind of relaxes and the rate of change goes down, you're going to see an economy that slows pretty rapidly, and and then we think the fed, you know, steps in and cuts rates sometime in 2024. elizabeth: wow, okay. >> so bidenomics is spending, spending and more spending. elizabeth: yeah. larry summers again says it's bad with. larry summers just recently said again stop the federal spending, carol. but, you know, americans suffered the biggest drop in real median household income in 2022 in a dozen years. it was third straight year of declines. real wages are not doing well. the white house is not --

drilling, you know, it was 13 million under trump. i mean, so inflation is up nearly 17% under biden. grocery prices are up nearly 20. so how can can they say bidenomics is better when trump's economy was coming in strong? he inherited a strong economy, 1.5% inflation. >> you know, mark twain always said there's lies, damn lies and statistics, so you can pull out a chart or any other pretty graph or trot out any economist to say what you want, liz, but here's what you need to ask the american people. let's compare 2019, before the covid emergency, to today. when were you more concerned about losing your job? when did you have more in savings? when did you have a bigger debt load? whenned did you feel like you were getting crushed by inflation? when you can those simple questions, americans are going to is say they were better off in all of those categories in 2019 versus today. and if you go to what fox columnist david marcus said today, which i thought was

genius, urn maga-nomics, people had more money to buy things, but under bidenomics, the government has more money to buy things. and that's what this is all about,ing the people versus the government. this is a clash. elizabeth: okay. so, you know, what carol just said is. it just feels like instability in this white house. we've got vice president kamala harris hit with another backlash, she tweeted out a photo of herself maskless, not wearing a mask, standing next to a child wearing a mask. and that just doesn't look good. that's not good optics there. you're also going to see nancy pelosi basically repeatedly asked if she backed vice president harris to run with biden. she sounds like she's not into it. watch this. >> is vice president kamala harris the best running mate for this president? >> hi thinks so -- he thinks so, and that's what matters. >> do you think she is the best running mate many. >> she's the vice president of the united states. people say to me, why isn't she

doing this or that? because she's the vice president. that's the job description. you don't do that much. more reptilian, cold-blooded. [laughter] elizabeth: did you hear that, carol? she can't, you know, bring herself to support her. [laughter] enter well, first of all, that reptilian comment, that was amazing. maya angelou, the iconic poet, once said when people show you who they are, believe them the first time. nancy pelosi's not only shown us, but she's told us. this is really, really bad for both the president and kamala harris, and just how, like, digging the nails in there she is, like, well, the vice president doesn't really do anything. that's just sort of says everything you need to know between the lines. elizabeth: nancy, what do you think? >> well, i gotta say the obfuscation of nancy pelosi is masterful. i don't know why you would say something like the vice president doesn't do anything and that's great preparation for

president. so i think we have to, as carol said, you've got to listen to her, and you've got to believe her because every time she says something, she delivers on it historically, and it's unfortunate. elizabeth: got it. nancy tengler, carol roth, thanks for joining us, we appreciate you. you've been good to the show. okay, the uaw, this is -- the white house is now scrambling, bracing for this: the uaw prepares to enact an historic strike, the first-ever simultaneous walkout gwen the detroit three automakers. grady trimble live at a ford headquarters in dear born, michigan, with the story. grady. >> reporter: hey, liz. with less than 7 hours until the united autoworkers' union contract expires, a strike at at least one of the detroit three awe to makers is looking more and more -- automakers is looking more and more likely, almost inevitable. the latest offers from ford and general motors include a 20% bump in pay over the 4 years of the contract with additional

cost of living increases. but that's a long way from the 46% pay raise the uaw initially asked for. ford, general motors and jeep and chrysler maker stellantis say they're putting generous offers forward and negotiating in good faith. here's ford's ceo, or jim farley, moments ago. >> it would bankrupt the company. >> yeah, there's no way we can -- that's why for the last two weeks we've been putting realistic offers on that we can actually invest in the future. there's no way we can pay people $300,000 to work 4-day workweeks. we would have lost $15 billion and closed most of our plants in the last couple years. that's not a future. >> reporter: how hopeful are you that you'll be able to reach a deal before the deadline tonight? >> i'm very hopeful, and i will remain hopeful until 1 1:59 because i believe that that's the best outcome for all of our employees, our company and, frankly, the united states of america. >> reporter: despite that

hope, so far the uaw has rejected every offer put forward by the automakers. its president says if there is no deal when the clock strikes midnight tonight, its workers are ready to strike but not at every factory at all three companies at once. >> we will strike all three companies, a historic first, initially at a limited number of target locations that we will be announcing. then, based on what's happening in bargaining, we're going to announce more locals that are going to be call to stand up and strike. >> reporter: unless there is a major breakthrough in the next few hours, liz, the uaw's president will announce which plants workers will picket at and and walk out of at 10 eastern tonight. it is coming down to the wire, liz. liz: grady trimble, thank you so much for that reporting. joining us now, former labor

department chief economist diane that fur. got process. this traces back to biden's push to basically have everybody buy electric cars when they don't want it. that inventory's piling up on dealer lots across the nation, and so you see this is really something, they want 40% wage hikes. i mean, it's unclear that they can even get that. we may see a strike tonight. what do you think? >> i really think so. the democrats have the blues because of the greens. there's the i blue collar workers, they want their jobs, but then the greens want the electric vehicles, and this is an existential threat to the united autothe workers because -- autoworkers because it's 400,000 fewer workers to make evs than to make these internal combustion engines. so that's why they want the 35% raise, they want the c.o.l.a.s, they want the 5-day s like buying 5 days' worth of

groceries and only getting 4 days' worth of food. elizabeth: it would be bad for the white house. trump is moving to pick off union workers in swing states like michigan, you know, and it's the blue collar, middle class worker that we're talking about here. it's the white house energy policies that have been hurting, you know, the middle class. when those gas prices go up, when oil prices go up, it feeds through all -- dozens, hundreds of products throughout the united states. but, diana, i want your reaction to energy secretary granholm today in testimony saying they can't do anything about rising energy prices. let's get your reaction to this. watch. >> -- to encourage any decrease in those prices. >> well, we don't is have, obviously, the prices are met on a private sector, on a market, so we don't have direct impact on that market. >> like killing drilling in anw- >> no, that has has nothing to do with the price today. elizabeth: what do you think, diana?

>> well, it's the inflationary 1970s calling president biden saying they want the benefits back. of course you can do something about the energy prices. he can, we can pump more oil. we have so much oil, we are the largest producer in the world, can and president biden has said he wanted to get rid of fossil fuels. unfortunately, he's trying to go true with -- through with his campaign promise, but there is a lot that we can to do. elizabeth: got it. >> and american -- yeah. elizabeth: finish your thought. >> and americans want to buy these internal combustion engine cars. only 6% of new vehicle sales are evs, and this is an existential threat to the united autoworkers. it's the greens against the blues, a fundamental divergence in the democratic can coalition. elizabeth: diana, thanks for joining us tonight. pleasure having you on. still ahead, congressman jeff van due, gop strategist ford o'connell, the federalist's margot cleveland and former energy secretary rick perry. we'll cover democrats' outrage,

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elizabeth: welcome back. the fallout of hunter biden indicted on three federal gun charges today, plus the house gop launching its plans for the biden impeachment inquiry. but we've got more gop senators supporting it. john cornyn now supports the impeachment inquiry. we also have house gop lawmakers doing lots of in-fighting. let's get to senior congressional correspondent chad pergram on capitol hill with the latest. >> reporter: liz, good afternoon. this is unprecedented, for a presidential family member. that's why there are so many questions about how this impacts the 2024 presidential campaign. it's possible questions about hunter biden would dog the president on the campaign trail. >> i think folkses may want to politicize it, but if anything, an indictment is, is a demonstration that our judicial process is proceeding under its

current structureses. >> reporter: this comes as house speaker kevin mccarthy is facing an uprising from conservatives who may want to show him the door. impeachment fails to impress those members. they're mad that mccarthy wants to pass a stopgap spending bill to avert a government shutdown without immediate cuts. mccarthy hammered his opponents behind closed doors. >> i am frustrated with the committee. i'm frustrated with some people in the conference. we had the dod appropriation bill yesterday. i couldn't put it on the floor. i don't have one complaint by any member what's wrong with this bill. i'm going to continue just to focus on what's the right thing to do for the american people and, you know what? if it takes a fight, i'll have a fight. >> reporter: some conservatives do not believe mccarthy has done what he promised following the a 15-round speaker election in january, the longest election for speaker since 1859. mccarthy loyalists defended the speaker.

>> you have to do it, and i would hope that you would do is question those individuals who never voted for the speaker, never explained why they would never vote for the speaker and now would imply that somehow the speaker hasn't kept every promise he a made. the speaker or said if you want to make a motion to vacate the chair, bring it on. >> reporter: mccarthy says the only way to avoid a shutdown is to approve a 30 or 60-day interim spending bill which simply renews all old funding. the deadline is october 1st. liz? elizabeth: chad pergram, thank you so much. let's bring in former u.s. assistant district attorney andrew mccarthy. it's good to see you again, ann a drew. your reaction to hunter biden indicted on three federal gun charges today? >> the big thing is this wouldn't have happened except for a federal judge. this is a prosecutor, the prosecutor who brought this case did everything he could to undermine it and sabotage it and disappear it. and he got called on it seven

weeks ago by a federal judge in court, and he brought what should have been the easiest gun case in the history of gun cases. should have taken him about 10 minutes to indict it, probably could have done it 5 years ago, and we were right down to the wire. 9 and the only thing, reason this happened is because a federal judge call him on what he was doing. elizabeth: got it. let's move on to the impeachment inquiry. senators john barrasso, lindsey graham, mike braun, marsha blackburn, tom cotton, ted cruz, john cornyn all saying yes to the impeachment inquiry. the media, democrats, the white house saying there's no evidence president biden directly profited. but we've got e-mails, text messages, we've got 1700 suspicious activity reports -- 170 -- devon archer testimony basically that joe biden did know and he was sold as the brand by hunter biden and james biden and family members worldwide. so when you hear the disparate takes on the impeachment

inquiry, what's your reaction? >> well, you know, as a prosecutor for a long time, evidence is kind of a weasel word. some people when they use it mean that you haven't yet proved, proof beyond a reasonable do you want. and -- doubt. and if that's what they mean by there's no evidence that no one's been charged, no one's been convicted, well, fair enough. but, you know, you build evidence and you building a case slowly, and we have all kinds of standards of evidence. seems to me they already have far more evidence in connection with this investigation than what they actually impeach end trump for -- impeached trump for at the end of their investigation in connection with ukraine with. so to say that there's no evidence, let me just give you hypothetical. what if instead of hunter biden and joe biden we had a corrupt oligarch telling an fbi informant that he had bribed donald trump and eric trump with $10 million? do you think the same people today who are saying there was no evidence would think that was

no evidence? elizabeth: right. >> i don't think so. elizabeth: yeah. and you know, the other thing too is that matt gaetz said on floor at this point under trump they had subpoenaed and brought in donald trump jr. three times to testify. hunter's -- james comerrer is saying he wants to get the bank records first, that, you know, that's what they're focused on. but the white house is saying that, you know, the fbi informant document alleging bribery was not verify by the justice dedepartment and the fbi. do we know if the fbi or doj subpoenaeded biden family financial records to substantiate that bribery charge? you know what i'm getting at. they're making these claims -- >> yeah, i do. elizabeth was there investigations to prove it might be right? >> yeah. what i think, liz, is that this investigation's a black hole. in other words, they say they can't discuss the matter because there's a continuing investigation. is so when you ask them perfectly reasonable questions like you just asked, they say they can't talk about it because it's an ongoing investigation,

but we don't know that they've actually done anything. we don't have any indication that they did anything to try to corroborate that particular informant who was told by this guy that this bribe was paid. and mind you, the bribe was paid under circumstances where wholly apart from the bribe he was already paying hunter biden a million dollars a year to sit on burisma's board, and he was doing that precisely to purchase joe biden's political influence. so it's not like it's inconceivable that he could possibly bribe biden. elizabeth: yeah. so listen, any bribery charge needs to be investigated, period. you can't just brush it under the rug are. we know that james comer's going to hold hearings, and we've got attorney general merrick garland scheduled to appear at a hearing next week. we're going to be staying on the story. andrew mccarthy, thanks for your insight tonight. thanks for joining us. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: more on why this white house is so unserious. how can biden officials claim

that they could track and stay on top of and monitor the $6 billion for, sent to iran, supposed to be spent on only humanitarian purposes, they claim, when it let fly out door hundreds of billions of dollars in massive pandemic e fraud and government waste here in the u.s.? we've got democrats in an uproar, this party is divided. the white house trying to blame new york city for mishandling and botching biden's own border crisis. this is, you're not going to believe this one. it's coming up on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪

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elizabeth: let's welcome back to the show from house homeland security, it's congressman jeff van drew. congressman, tests always a pleasure. we appreciate you helping out the show. you know, this story, the biden border crisis is seriously dividing the democrat party. now they're attacking each other. nbc reporting that top homeland security officials are saying new york city, quote, is not

doing enough to handle biden's border crisis, that new york democrats' strategy is, quote, not operationally sound, that new york has no exit strategy for migrants out of its shelter system. but this is biden's own border crisis, congressman. does the white house have any plan to help u.s. cities? >> well, if he has a plan, he sure hasn't told us. let me say something here that i believe is important. of course it's a crisis. in all of our cities and in our whole country, anybody listening out there who thinks that it's not going to affect them in some way, anybody should know that it's going to affect each and every state in the union because the the numbers are so high that they're being shipped everywhere. and by the way, this is what happens when you declare yourself a sanctuary state or sanctuary city. you know, the cool kids on the block were saying, oh, we're a shang sanctuary -- sanctuary city or state, that means you house them, feed them, clothe them, transport them, and take care of all their needs include. >>ing legal defense this

they try to send them back. new york city said it was a sanctuary city. the state of new jersey and the state of new york said they're sanctuary state. what do you think is going to happen? now they're reaping the rewards, the terrible rewards, of their actions. elizabeth: yeah. i mean, the voters voted them in, right? so that's an issue too. it's a wake-up call. i mean, now we've got billionaire democrat michael bloomberg saying the biden white house is failing here, and democrats are going to pay the price in 2024. and the inspector general for homeland security put out a report basically enumerating that there's something like 70,000 illegal immigrants released into cities and towns every month. >> yep, and more coming. they just want to keep it on coming, you know? we had a hearing today in my subcommittee in judiciary, and we poke about this very issue. -- we spoke about this very issue. and one of the people that we asked questions to was from the democratic side because they always get to have some of their people there. and he said, no, there's been no crime, there's

been no problems. we all followed what just recently happened in pennsylvania where an escaped convict originally came from brazil, got into the country illegally, got to puerto rico and then came into florida and up to pennsylvania. he stabbed his girlfriend to death with a butter knife dozens upon dozens of times while the children, while her children watched. these are some of the people we're getting. not all of them are bad people. they're all doing the wrong thing. illegal is illegal. and let me say one more thing, liz. this is important for everybody to know, and i think everybody should know it. don't let anybody say to you that you're a racist, don't let them say that you don't like immigrants, that you don't like immigration. we like legal immigration. all of us, our children, our grandchildren, our great grandchildren actually are immigrants in this amazing country. it needs to be legal, it needs to be safe, it needs to be -- these people need to be vetted, and they are not. elizabeth: they're not being vetted. that's the issue. we've been -- you and i

have been talking about this for, like, years. and we've talked about terrorists crossing the border. this white house has destabilized america, period. that's what's going on, congressman. people do not feel safe. and they're surprised that, you know, that biden is plummeting in the polls and new york times, washington post says he should not run again? we have, you know, democrat voters saying they're not going to vote for him in and so then you had today biden slamming maga-nom mics. >> yeah, bidenomics means to me everybody paying more for everything. bidenomics means to me that our supply chain is not anywhere near still what it should be. bidenomics has hurt this country. elizabeth: got it. congressman van drew, thanks for joining us again tonight. we love having you on the show. you're terrific. okay, this story coming up, house republicans are moving to add monoifish the democrat governor of -- admonish the democrat

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elizabeth: joinings us now, republican strategist ford o'connell. ford, this story, how can the biden white house claim they can track $6 billion in funds to iran for just humanitarian purposes, they can't even catch hundreds of billions of dollars in government waste, fraud and abuse here? talking billions in covid fraud. show the viewer what we found. what do you think, ford? >> well, thed idea of direct oversight is a joke of the iranian funds. i think it's absolutely outrageous that we did a prisoner swap and gave them $6 billion too. to your point, when it came to unemployment insurance during covid, they misplaced $135 billion. what makes you think they're going to keep track of $6 billion outside of the united states? is so this money gone. elizabeth: you know, and the other thing too is how much did we leave behind in afghanistan when it came to the military equipment and money? >> well, we left billions and billions behind. but when you have this type of waste, fraud and abuse and, you know, the money that is being spent massively overspent by the biden administration, all of

these things add up, and they do add to the inflation being faced by the average american. elizabeth: all right. let's watch this. let's watch john kirby, nsc spokesman. he's going to claim that somehow this $6 billion given to this terrorist state will be put in some kind of al gore-style lock box just for humanitarian purposes and when iranians show up with their hallway pass, somehow they're going to make sure it goes to hospitals or whatever. watch this. >> it's not just $6 billion that iranians are just going to be able to write checks whenever they want. stop transactions if -- >> well, the president -- [inaudible] >> the money can only be used for humanitarian purposes. this money is not a blank check. we're not turning a blind eye to anything that iran's doing in a region around the world. elizabeth: this is the same fellow who turned a blind eye to biden's botched exit out of afghanistan saying it was not chaotic. that's the same official who claimed that. that's the same official who has been accused of gaslighting the

american people constantly from the biden white house press office. >> john kirbys has lost all credibility here. and let's be honest, iran is the largest state sponsor or terror the, and the -- of terror, and the iranian president says he's going to use the $6 billion any way he wants. this is not a republican talking point because when obama back in 2016 gave the iranians a couple billion dollars, guess what they did? they used it for terror operations in syria and lebanon. that is going to happen again. i'm glad that americans are coming home. unfortunately, joe biden has funded nuclear and terror activities in iran, and now he's incentivized them to take more american hostages in the future. elizabeth: got it. ford o'connell, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: more democrats are found to have conflicts of interest in biden's green energy push. plus, we've got the federalist's senior legal correspondent margo with cleveland on the hunter biden gun indictment and on the

house gop's move to admonish the democrat governor of new mexico for her unconstitutional a temporary ban on guns. but first, let's check in with our very good friended dagen, see what she's got coming up next hour on "the bottom line." dagen: hey there, e-mac. we have pete hegseth to talk about the indictment of hunter biden. his daddy facing an impeachment into our eye -- inquiry, and the economy steve moore will talk about stinking to the high heavens for all of us. john joyce, congressman on the house of representatives, just voting to prohibit those left-wing states if from mandating folks drive electric vehicles. and lee carter on polls, polls, polls. and maybe they're not good for joe biden. top of the hour.ge i top of the hour.ge i and sean will be here, so you won't have to suffer. i take ony jardiance, ♪

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elizabeth: joining us now from the federal list, margo cleveland. it's great to have you on the show. first, more bad news coming in for this biden white house. your reaction to hunter biden ooh's indictment on three federal gun charges today and now we've got james comer and the impeachment inquiry leaders in the house, they're assembling even more evidence showing

allegations of president biden's corruption. what do you think of all that's going on? >> well, the indictment was actually a good first move, and i say that because the indictment had three gun counts. not the one that they had in the, you know, the free give me, get out of jail free diversion agreement. this actually charged him with the two more substantial offenses of lying on the application form. as well as possessing the gun as an addict. so it actually had three counts versus one. and it was one of those things that we knew was coming because weiss' team had told the judge, look, we're going to have by the end of the month an indictment out in order to comply with the speedy trial act. so the it's a good first step, but as you note, we've got a lot more going on. elizabeth: this come comes, you know, the second amendment gun

rights is coming into the 2024 race. now we've got this federal judge, a biden appointee, temporarily blocking new mexico's governor's gun ban as unconstitutional and 51 lawmakers introducing a resolution condemning the democrat new mexico governor over this. she's got at least six legal challenges filed against it. >> right. and what i think is the most shocking about this is that a governor of one of the united states would actually think that she could just kind of cross out the second amendment on the constitution. that anyone could get elected who would think that they have that kind of authority and power is just shocking to me. but unfortunately, that's sort of what has happened with the education and the beliefs of the first principles in our government that we are seeing. so it's not surprising the judge would put it on hold and say, no, that's not valid because it was clearly unconstitutional, what she did.

elizabeth: also you go to california, you look at what's going on in california, they'res passing new conceal-carry transitions this week. that appears to run up against that supreme court ruling last year that struck down limits on who can carry handguns. >> it does. and you also saw though that the state of new york had done the exact same thing right after that case came through. and unfortunately, with those two cases it's going to take a while for them to get through the court system for the judges to say or the justices to say, no, you crossed the the line. in both of those they're trying to prevent the carrying of guns by lawful individuals who have the authority to carry them by declaring everything kind of off limits, by saying that these are sensitive locations. and that really does have, run headlong with the brown decision from the supreme court. elizabeth: you know, in your expertise, margo, from where you sit, it just feels when you look at the polls and everything that

that's going on, voters don't feel safe. they don't feel secure urn this white house, you know? -- under this white house. when you see democrats declaring public health emergencies and hen taking away rights after we came out of the economy, the entire economy being shut down, and that was such a wrongheaded move. and then you have biden coming in and doing things like after a pandemic shutdown foisting on top of the u.s. economy an electric car push, electrifying the entire economy, saying no to fossil fuels, and then you have such disarray with how they're handling, you know, the biden family corruption probes. >> and you've got to put in the border. if you're looking at the security -- and this is what i thought was so ironic. the governor of new mexico is trying to talk about the violence from guns and the drugs. you know why that's happening? it's because we we aren't cracking down on crime, and we have the southern border open with a free flow of drugses and

people where -- drugs and people where there is no screening of them, and they are just flooding this country. and that is going to be a problem. the biden administration really could not to do a better job to destroy this country if they were trying to do so with all of the failed policies. elizabeth: got it. margot cleveland, thanks for joining us. coming up, former u.s. energy secretary, governor rick perry. more democrats found to have conflicts of interest in biden's green energy push. it's coming up on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪

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elizabeth: well, look who's here, former u.s. energy secretary the, former texas governor rick perry, he's a good friend of the show. we appreciate you coming on and helping us out with your expertise and your smarts. show the viewer, we've got dozens of climate protesters demonstrating at citigroup headquarters in downtown manhattan. people not happy with activists blocking highways, shutting down roads. but, governor, i want to talk to you about this, more democrats accused of conflicts of interest in biden's green energy. we have got democrat congresswoman elissa slotkin signing a nondisclosure agreement with the michigan economic development corporation about her meetings with chinese electric car battery company goshen, they're building a plant in her home state of michigan. what's this about many. >> well, i think there clearly needs to be some new standards in mace not just for members

of -- in place not just for members of the administration, but also for congress. i think all of us have seen enough conflict of interest. when the trump administration came in, the best i can tell certainly with my case, that any stocks that you own, any positions that you had, you left those. you put them behind. now, some people put them in blind trusts. i suppose that's okay. but preferably, you ought to just make sure that you don't have -- if you want to serve in public, if you want to be a senator or a congressman, you want to be in the cabinet, be in an administration, you need to understand this is public service. this is not, well, i can set this over here and i'll, you know, i'll keep a blind eye -- elizabeth: yeah. >> wish everybody was an angel, but they're not. the point is these individuals who have these conflicts, they need to be, they need to be held with their feet to the fire and, frankly, there needs to be a

higher standard for people that are in public service. elizabeth: well, there's this one, the intercept reporting that biden's white house chief of staff, jeff sient, has close ties to green energy, that his brother-in-law owns a metals company that mine, gets metals for electric car batteries. the president, the vice president, they've repeatly touted tech mech. its ceo is a south african mining barren. he's the -- baron. i mean, tech mech even put out a press release that president biden and vice president harris have championed them as a leading role in green energy. they're going to make a lot of money off this green energy push. >> elizabeth, this has been going on for a long time. there was solyndra, you know, you've got the current secretary of energy that's got conflicts with the stock that she had, i think an electric car company or battery company. my point is the public's got to

demand that we put those types of safeguards into place. if you don't, you're always going to have these conflicts. and, frankly, part of the media's job is to really hone in on this and to ferret this out, and all too often we haven't seen them do that particularly with this administration. so, you know, there's a lot of shining to do, in my opinion. elizabeth: governor, the thing is the american people see it. they see in the infrastructure bill, they see it in the inflation, so-called reduction act. you know, tens of billions of dollars flying out the door toward climate change and toward the green energy sector, and they're the same ones who are plowing a lot of political donations into democrat coffers. >> yeah. it's -- the public -- one of the reasons the public has lost faith in some of the institutions if not all the institutions out there that we used to hold at pretty high

levels, the media being one of them, and we've seen how the media has treated this administration and they're picking signs rather than just giving good, solid, you know, here's what we see, here's -- we'll report it, you decide whether it's correct or not. and the same needs to be true for those the people that are going to be in public service. they've got to be held to a higher standard. if you to don't, then the whole concept of democracy and capitalism is put in jeopardy and, unfortunately, i'm afraid that's what we needed today in america. elizabeth: got it. rick perry, thanks for joining us. be sure to tune in tomorrow knight, congressman pat fallon, lee carter and sam tuohy. i'm elizabeth macdonald, thanks for watching "the the evening edit." now it's time for "the bottom line." let's give it over to dagen. dagen: thank you, e-mac. elizabeth: sure. ♪