larry: tomorrow, fox business debate in the reagan library and free advice, republican candidates, think like reagan, supply economics worked once and can work again. now, we will all watch liz macdonald. elizabeth: larry, that never gets old. never gets old, larry kudlow.

larry: never. elizabeth: it's hurricane season and not just hurricanes. i feel like i need to hold on so tight with all the craziness out of dc. we need you, larry kudlow. you're the best, larry kudlow. thank you so much. president biden goes to uaw picket line and spends 10 minutes and no fixes to own electric car mandates and wiping out their uaw jobs and former president trump is ready to pounce and will do his uaw rally tomorrow and we've got the update and larry said that fox business republican debate is coming up. we've got polls showing the top issues that voters really care about. and we've got more e-mail shroffage linking embattled democrat senator menendez and hunter biden is what to expect from the first hearing on impeachment inquiry thursday and jp morgan jamie dimon out with a stark new warning, are you ready for 7% interest rates?

what! recession. plus what he's blaming all that on and democrat strategist james caravelle and he just slammed far left democrats as "the most stymed naive people ever". critics say they're running the white nows and gavin newsom refuses to say he's not running. i'm elizabeth mack darnold and the evening edit starts right now. this is so exciting, we're one day away from the second republican debate here on fox business and candidates are gearing up for their own breakout moments. we've got the top issues that polls show republicans score big on the economy, crime, and biden's border crisis. for democrats, it's healthcare and abortion. now, grady trimble, he's live at

reagan presidential library in simi valley, california. he'll give us the latest. grade i did, good to see you. reporter: good to see you took into consideration liz. the candidates will be here soon and there's a growing buzz here at reagan presidential library gearing up for tomorrow night's debate. meantime president biden was on the picket line today, some in the gop field like senator tim scott say the president should really be at the southern boarder and crisis spilling over into cities across the country and it's been a huge focus for the republican candidates and two of the front runners. ron desantis advocated for using deadly force on members and they go a step further than former president trump's wall and sent u.s. troops to secure the border. is radioright now, the cartels financed tunnels underneath that wall and wall was a good start but it's not enough. that's perfectly appropriate to

use our military to secure our own border against an invasion of both drugs and illegal armed gunmen at own southern border. reporter: voters are also increasingly unhappy with president biden's handling of the economy and look at these latest poll numbers and the debate will be another opportunity for candidates to sell their vision for the economy and contrast that with bidenomics. a few changes heading to the podium positions compared to last time around in milwaukee and former south carolina governor nikki haley moving closer to center stage after a strong performance in wisconsin and former arkansas governor asa hutchinson didn't make the cut this time around failing to meet the stricter standards for the second gop primary debate and we need the candidates and we'll be watching tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern on fox business. elizabeth: exciting stuff,

grady. good to see you, my friend. welcome back the vice chairman of the house conference and congressman mike johnson. john congress, good to see you again. you heard grady trimble's report. we got president biden, you know, he spent 12 minutes on uaw picket lines in detroit saying they deserve wage increases and that sounds great. then he flew to a fundraise fertilizer california. you think the uaw will endorse biden they've got yet to do that. >> it would be foolish for them to endorse him and joe biden is no friend to america's working families. they are feeling the pain of his policies and the democrats reckless spending and that's what's gotten us into the situation we're in and rather absurd for him to show up today and pretend he's doing any favors at all. liz, they're right to be concerned and their jobs being sent overseas and employers are investing in china and getting slave labor to fill their old positions and the value of the dollars being decreased because of policies that joe biden is advancing and their families are feeling the pain and they're so

desperate for more income and they need it just to get by. elizabeth: yeah, 17% inflation compounded under biden is it was half that under trump. you know, bloomburg senior correspondent, she went on cnn and said "as a sign of desperation for the president to go there. he had nothing to offer". what are his policy fixes to stop his electric car mandates wiping out uaw jobs and even the energy information agency, congressman, says 29% of the car market will be electric by 2050. that's a long way away. >> it is, and everyone knows all the analysts have shown all that uaw employees that it's going to hurt them specifically. it's going to take more jobs away and it's going to decrease the purchasing power of the dollars that they have in their pocket ultimately because it's faulty policy. they're forcing a green energy transition on a country that doesn't want it. these people know that. the hard working families in the

plants making our gas-powered fuel engines know what the demand is out there and so everybody is kind of playing along with the fiction and really self-destructive. elizabeth: rallying with the uaw tomorrow and biden talking about electric car mandates and they're going to wipe out 40% of uaw jobs and michigan senator debbie stabinow and biden's plunging polls they're scared inside the white house and biden bloopers keep on co coming and here's the latest. >> what's your message to car companies before going to detroit? >> so, today i'm pleased to announce we're working with congress to invest $40 billion in our pacific island infrastructure initiative and we call it the pi anyway. doesn't matter what we call t but that's what it is.

>> right now the polls head-to-head are more concerning than i would expect. >> 59% of democrats said they'd like to see a challenge. of course the question remains who would that be? elizabeth: your final word, congressman? >> the gaffe reel is not funny. this is so serious and the american people see an elderly man that's feeble and not up to the job. they see his policies that have destroyed the economy, weaponnized our federal agencies and opened the border. they know he's not the leader going forward. but it's a serious thing for us to be projecting weakness like this on the world stage at a very dangerous time. elizabeth: got it, congressman johnson, thank you for joining us and good to see you. look who's back and welcome back to the show former acting dhs secretary chad wolf and tom holman. the president will go to arizona next week. no word he's going to go to the border. voters say they're really at both sides and don't like what's going on. he's -- biden is saying he's doing everything he can, chad,

about the border hawaii do you say? >> the president's not doing hardly anything that he's capable of doing along that border. nods are he's not going to the border. he'll go to other parts of arizona and he doesn't want to go to the border because he doesn't want to hear from border patrol agents and other experts there and failed strategy is not working and that i mean to him to change course and those are difficult conferses and i'm sure his people in the white house will keep him far away from that and it's overwhelming and the evidence is overwhelming that the biden strategy along that border failed on every front and getting worse and worse every year and it's getting worse and worse and the american people are tired and they want to change and be secure and want communities secure and stop iting invasion from ouring and there's a lot of work to be done. elizabeth: 7.5 million illegal crossings under the white house and yesterday, more than a thousand terrorists are caught and tens of thousands of convicted criminals and most recent memory.

what do you think of biden saying he's done everything he can? >> it angers me. every day i wake up angry and me and chad both worked for the administration and created the most secure border for the lifetime and started in 1964 and worked for six different presidents and they took some steps in securing the border and a 45 year low in illegal immigration and 83% decline and look how many lives he saved and border with the highest security ever and joe biden is the first president in the history of the nation that came in office and unsecured a border on purpose, which has caused record number of fentanyl killing americans, record number of migrants died crossing the border and record number of women and children sex trafficked in the united states. i saw a report that 400,000 children crossed the border illegally and government released to so-called sponsors and they can't find 100,000 of them. 100,000 children missing that

government released. elizabeth: it's shocking and disturbing. it should concern every u la abading american who says yes -- law-abiding american that says yes to legal immigration and collapsing the border it's lawlessness and people get hurt and killed. watch the finger pointing and watch obama's dhs super star saying it is biden's fault and he needs to stop it. watch. >> migrants have now figured out that that -- those things do not, are not able to handle these numbers and so they're working around this system again and so i'm worried that the numbers are going to get higher and higher if we're seeing these kinds of numbers in september and october and we're in for a real mess. >> we see here is the fact that chicago can sustain this and nearly 1600 people living in police districts in the lobbies in tents and the parkways and can't keep asking cities like

chicago whether they're sanctuary or not coming up with the solution for the federal government's failure. joe biden, kamala harris, all of congress needs to get their heads out of their rear ends and focus on what's important and addressing this issue head on. elizabeth: chad, you know what trump's issue is if he's a nominee or gop candidates and say to biden in the 2024 debate, they should ask him, do you know that chicago, los angeles, new york city, and taxpayer haves to pay with higher property tacks, income taxes for your border crisis. what do you think he'd say? >> that's a great question. i think we need to be clear. this is not congress' fault. this is joe biden, president biden and the department of homeland security under president biden and these are actions that they actively taken to make that border less secure and tom was exactly right and this is not about congress and about anything else. these are about the policies they took down in the failed policies they've put in place

that made america less safe than it was just several years ago and they need to stop placing blame elsewhere and they need to look themselves in the mirror and say maybe it's their failed policies and doing that within the clips they've showed and not republican or democrat anymore. it's a american problem and american issue and people from both sides of the aisle need to care. elizabeth: that's right. cha shad just said, tom -- what chad just said, tom. it's not either or or either party, it's an american issue. final word, tom. >> it is an american issue. we deserve better and a border that's safe and nags that will security. can't have national security without border security. say this one thing, they ask stop the crisis tomorrow if they put in remain in mexico program back in place. highest court in the land said it's legal. they could do it tomorrow and take 85% of the problem away. they're not going to do it because they don't want to fix it. elizabeth: got it. chad and tom, thank you for joining us tonight and good to see you both.

congressman carlos gem gimenez d fox news contributor jason chaffetz and why is jamie dimon saying 7% interest rates and recession, he's saying are you prepared for this? plus, we've got the chair of house ways and means, congressman jason smith. he's fired up and ready to go. more e-mails show the link between embattled senator bob menendez and charged with u.s. bribery felonies and hunter biden is what is on the docket for the first house impeachment inquiry hearing this thursday? we've got it next on evening edit. ♪ liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. with the money i saved, i started a dog walking business. oh. [dog barks]

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elizabeth: congressman, 18 democrat senators say senator bob menendez should resign after u.s. bribery and corruption charges and he's allegedly due in court tomorrow. what do you think of this story? >> it's quite disturbing and reading all the charges and what he's accused of, flying on the plane to washington dc, it's

quite disturbing but he has to have his day in court and it'll be interesting to see how that goes. elizabeth: menendez hired hunter biden's lawyer and look at e-mails coming out. hunter biden and senator menendez were found to be routinely e-mailing each other and getting to lobbying and helping for them for a business group in spain and he lobbied senator menendez and spanish railroad company and they got some big contract, $300 million contract with app track. amtrak. >> liz, one of the worst best kept secrets in washington is soliciting a favorite and it was contacting hunter biden just to set up a meeting and we've seen that with what the two irs

whistle blowers have highlighted and their testimony before the ways and means committee. it is disturbing. elizabeth: the american people are men and women that went to war got killed, maimed, they didn't fight for our nation so we could have a president profiting off of his government job, period. and we haven't seen the president come out forcefully about this. no statements, why? >> i'll tell you right now, what we do know is the president lied. he said numerous times on camera that he knew smog about his son's business dealings and when we release the irs whistle blower testimony, they started changing their tune. they said he was no longer involved and we also know according to devon archer that president biden was a critical tool in selling the brand and he was the brand to foreign influence peddling which brought in over $20 million, which has

been documented and documented by the irs whistle blowers and biden's justice department has treated his son differently than you or i would ever be treated. elizabeth: tax evasion charges and we'd be penalized and put in jail. but we're legislate the statute of limitations run out on that and what's going to come out of the first impeachment inquiry and led by house oversight. is this about following and you happen covering the money trail and the paper trail and money trail. the family's shell companies? >> of course i'll be involved in that hearing on thursday and liz hoping the ways and means

committee at 10:30 tomorrow to release information that the two irs whistle blowers had given up from their july testimony before congress and that information, those materials after they're released tomorrow and voted out in ways and means committee and made public and highlighted for thursday's impeachment hearing. elizabeth: do you know what that is and what's the most damaging thing here? >> that could be a federal felony and under 6103 authority, we're going through the process to make sure it's a vote of the ways and means committee and that'll allow it to be made public. elizabeth: give us a general headline. what would the headline be generally speaking and how damaging is it? >> i think you'll clearly see the connection of joe biden to all kinds of business entities.

elizabeth: got it. chairman, >> i son smith, that you can't for the -- chairman, jason smith, thank you for the headline and we'll have you back on i hope soon. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: going after u.s. lawmakers and shocking breakdown in government oversight of foreigners buying u.s. land near u.s. military bases and sensitive insulations. plus, jp morgan's jamie dimon, he's warning "are you prepared for 7% interest rates? and a recession. we didn't even see 7% interest rates in the 2008 financial crash. and guess what he's blaming all this on and government overspending world side and here in the u.s.. here blaming the biden white house too. all of this on "the evening edit" coming up.

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elizabeth: back with us now, former reagan economist, he's art laffer. we need you on the story. holy toledo. jp morgan jamie dimon said are you prepared for 7% interest rates and recession? he says he really believes we're going to see 7% rates. what do you think? i mean, holy throe toe. we didn't see those rates in 2008 financial crash and what's going on here? >> we should have had rates and held them low since 2009 and now all the sudden we're returning back and jamie dimon with a good chance they go up further and i don't know that it's going to be 7% and elizabeth, i know they're going to go up further i think and all these people that have been living in a world of 1 and

2% long term interest rates are going to have to adjust their portfolios and from my standpoint and the companies i'm involved with, i've told them all to be very cautious and have plenty of reserves to withstand the problems when rates rise. they will rise i think and i don't know how high. but i think they'll rise a little bit further. elizabeth: all right, this is going to rock the markets and i think 2 percentage point increase from 5-7, it's more painful than from 3-5. jamie dimon is saying that. he's blaming global government spending higher than in the history of mankind other than maybe world war ii and he's blaming green energy spending sg and saying he's blaming biden's inflation reduction act and the chips act and what part is disinflationary? >> none of it. none of it is. you know, if you give all this spending out there and give all the money freebies transfer payments and people will stop

working and go and shove their friends a beer and buy more and work a lot more and demand and less supply, you'll get those prices rising and higher interest rates and look at what's happened, elizabeth, to the price level since biden took office. it's up 17, 18%, something like that. i mean, that's a huge increase in the price level. that means all as sit values de-ticketed and getting you back to where it was and taxes are higher and capital gains tax and depreciation and equipment you should companies are tax and will all is happening and it's creek and it's very dangerous and we need a total change in government come this jan january 2024. republicanning talk about economics and economics. elizabeth: should be all economic policy and this is likely the worst white house,

the worst white house in american u.s. history. i mean, are they get ago wakeup call and 67% of workers say the cost of live asking outpacing the gross in salary and wages and according to bank of america survey and high inflation is a major reason why people are saying we may have to forgo healthcare and can't afford college tuition and now a daily living expenses they can't handle. you see the whole housing market and home rising for the sixth straight month in that schuler study and talking possibly 8% mortgage rates and double whammy and triple a whammy on people. you don't know what healthcare costs are and transaction prices and don't know what the good parts are of healthcare and don't know which ones are good or not. your doctors don't know the cost of these things and even within the same hospital and the same

day and same l procedure, you get huge differences in prices depending upon which insurance policy goes and it's a corrupt system that's really bad and 20% of gdp ask that's just one and trump had an executive order on that and he was going to solve it and now it's been dropped. we need to go back and do good economics just the way trump did them. elizabeth: yeah, the polls, quinnipiac, gallop, nbc, cnn, new york times sienna, abc, washington post they all say we're on -- eight out of ten, seven out of ten say we're on the wrong path and we're living through history. >> we are. elizabeth: this is probably one of the worst presidencies of white house failure we've never seen and art laffer, thank you so much. we'll have you back on again soon. good to see you. >> good to be with you. thank you. elizabeth: sorry to end on a dour note. >> don't worry, i love being with you and i'm your big fan. elizabeth: me too. mutual. this story coming up, virginia governor youngkin raising parents suing the school board

with the state's transgender policy and also a new report and foreign buyers of u.s. land not notifying the u.s. government ffor "years"and coming up on the evening edit. ♪ elizabeth: top republicans

want to know more. they're investigating this really sneak jy strategy by the far left and who exactly is behind the so called dark money climate change lawsuits attacking u.s. energy.

hillary vaughn live on capitol hill with the story. >> good evening, i the cash behind the lawsuits behind the country is catching the eye of capitol hill and dark money force are using lawsuits as a way to do damage to big oil companies they despice and top republican on the and top republican on oversight committee james comer writing a letter to the law firm behind 20 climate suits since 201 2017 and cruise and comer saying the activities are not above board saying over the past five years your law firm has launched a barrage of lawsuits of wealthy liberals by dark money passed through funds and there's famous faces tied through the firm and leonardo dicaprio donated sizably to the nonprofit and

action fund and that fund turned around and donated more than $8 million to the law firm that's bringing all these lawsuits so the gop following this dark money trail giving them two weeks to turn over their donor list and republicans want to know who gave money, how much, and how the money was spent. liz. elizabeth: what a storm hillary vaughn, thank you so much. good to see you. okay, now we've got congressman carlos gem gimenez from house homeland security and we want your reaction to this. biden's agricultural secretary tom vilsack raising the red flag on the national security risk and he's saying yeah, it's worrying that china is buying farmland near u.s. military bases and other sensitive sites. watch this. >> has the department of agriculture seen anything in the purchase of farmland by chinese corporations or chinese nationals that would suggest a

threat to national security or food security? >> there was concern that the chinese interest was purchasing land near military insulation. i think there's legitimate concerns in that space and i on any given day, someone may walk into the recorder's office and file a deed and there's no way of knowing precisely whether or not that was a chinese purchaser. we need to work on how we michael jacobson might be able to collect the information. elizabeth: you know, congressman, we appreciate his honesty and it's good he's being straightforward about this and we're just supposed to be okay and nobody is watching this in dc and we're just going to rely on the county recorder or local office to see if china is really the buyer and they're burying the purchases they're really buying this land? >> well, look, the -- we've been sounding alarm bells here for quite some time in congress about what's going on, especially those purchases in

the dakotas and chinese are 30% food dependent and they're get ago double whammy and getting they're buying farmland to help with food insecurity and they're buying on sensitive military bases and there is legislation in the senate by two senators that looks to curb this and buying farmland and also the peopled selling it. that's yet to be determined in elizabeth: chinese spy balloons crossing the border and we've got people -- gp lawmakers fear spies are crossing the u.s. border and nbc news. nbc looked at thousands of pages of government documents of foreign land purchasing something like nearly three dozen states and everybody is saying, yards in aggie e china only bought fewer than

1400 acres and you cannot say that, full stop. it's sort of like cross-examination is where the mind comes to rest. nbc found a very week oversight and nobody watching who's buying the land and straw buyers and purchases and talking about. nobody is reporting enforcement of it and though they don't have to report and lack of enforcement for years and they're saying we bought the land. >> there's some statings banning the sale of u.s. land to chinese nationals and those tied to the ccp. it's interesting that doj has now gone after florida and governor desantis for the law that they passed saying it's unconstitutional and biden

administration speaking out on both sides of their mouth. we need to get serious about this and shall we need to keep our own farmland that's one area that we are food independent and we can be food dominant around the world. one place we actually beat the chinese, the chinese are trying to get their foot in the door here to solve their problem of food insecurity but at the same time again, they have a place to spy on these sensitive military bases and so, yeah, we need to do a better job of that. both at the federal government but then the federal government shouldn't be trying to stop the states from doing a job that the federal government has failed to do over the years. elizabeth: got it. congress than gimenez, thank you for joining and yous good information. hope to see you again soon. wait until you hear california governor gavin newsom with his latest response when kansas city chiefs asked whether he's running into 20236789 we've got it -- 2024. we've got the sound and the sound of top democrat strategist james caravelle slamming far left democrats as the dumbest

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rooms and elizabeth: what are people in virginia saying about this? >> liz, parents across this country have witnessed a collapse in courage of school boards across the nation. when they're confronted with what we see in this case with this virginia law, that was passed back in 2020 and requiring school boards to adopt policies, we have governor -- the governor and the attorney general issuing guidance under

the prior administration, of course, all of these school boards were more than happy to jump on board with this guidance that required people to use pronounces and to do things that were just completely inconsistent with parental rights and with any rational americans understanding of what the law requires. so now we have these new policies that come out in school boards saying, well, i don't know, there's not really a legal requirement for us to follow these. so we're just not going to do it. so we have a situation where school boards across the commonwealth of virginia have the opportunity to dot right thing. to enact policies that reflect those policies establish and laid out at state level and to protect the involvement of parents in their children's lives and the ability to ensure that they are not using pronouns that they don't approve of in

the school system and to protect private spaces for girls and for boys. elizabeth: yeah, so you know -- yeah, stay on that for a second. you've got james caravelle saying left wing activists, far lefts but then far left democrats are totally wrong. listen to james caravelle on the bill maher podcast watch this. >> the western far left is habitually the most stupid naive people you can imagine. as all about feeling good about yourselves. >> if the feelings are hurt it's more important than free speech. >> most don't know what they're talking about and then they left are silly. there's a certain coastal arrogance in this country. and people feel it. the last eight polls are all the same. 73-77% of the country does not want biden to run again.

>> what's going on here? >> only time in my life saying james caravelle is right. once you get out of coastal urban areas and get into real america, people don't support these radical policies. people don't support men in women's bathrooms. people don't support the idea of gender fluidity and not something people want thrown on their children and coaxed into believing they can change their gender. so, look, the radical left has had it is way for some time now. we'll see how it all works out in a number of arenas, whether in elections or somewhere else.

elizabeth: gene, thank you. can we ask why did california governor gavin newsom dodge 60 minutes asking whether he's going to run in 2024? we're going to break it down next on "the evening edit". ♪ what do we always say, son? liberty mutual customizes your car insurance... so you only pay for what you need. that's my boy. now you get out there, and you make us proud, huh? ♪ bye, uncle limu. ♪ stay off the freeways! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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president biden's surrogate to fox business republican debate? >> look, this is a guy that wakes up in the morning and looks in the mirror and says, good morning, mr. president. this guy wants it so bad. it's so obvious. i think he's trying to hold back just a little bit but, you know what, he plays a powerful role and he's governor of a massive state and you've got senator feinstein who is ailing and could step out any time he gets to appoint that senator and everybody is trying to play nice and a lot of people understand that joe biden may very well not be the nominee in this next election. elizabeth: to what you're saying, listen to governor newsom avoid answering whether he's running into 2024. watch. >> you may be termed out here but does cleaning up the streets of california talk about a

presidential run. >> i'll never overpromise in a presidential run and that's in the state. >> that was a never ending responds to your question. elizabeth: what does that mean never ending response and the response and what did you think? >> he does a 60 minutes interview and wants to be perceived as a natural and a person unlike kamala harris to be the democratic nominee and the state's a mess and he's trying to clean it up and he helped create the mess. he's exacerbated the mess and this is the guy who when he was running for the mayor of san francisco said he had a plan to clean up homelessness. look where we're at today. it's one of the worst parts of the entire country. elizabeth: jason, we just had sound from james caravelle, top democrat strategist talking to bill maher on his podcast saying the coastal elites are "arr "arrogant, stupid, beyond

imagination and off the wall". ftc suing amazon and 17 state ags suing amazon as monopolist and voters saying in the polls it's nuts and bolts issues they deal with in reality every day and look at oakland, california, 200 businesses striking a rapidly spreading crime wave after defund the police and it's so bad, 10,500 cars stolen. voters want more cops on the street. that's what they're asking for. these guys are talking about everything else but that. >> well and gavin new talking about best positioning himself for the president of the united states. california is one of the worst performing states. and people for the first time ever under gavin newsom are fleeing the country and leaving and going to places like utah and texas and idaho and florida and places like that where they can -- business is conducive there and do good business with

a fair regulatory environment and not the radical craziness that is california. and it's safe to do s. they believe in law enforcement, but not in gavin newsom's california. it's dangerous and it's not a good place to do business. and they are just crazy-woke, beyond anybody's recognition of sanity. elizabeth: quick ten seconds, do you really think biden will not run again? >> i don't think he'll be the nominee? i don't. elizabeth: we're living in history. jason chaffetz, got to see you, my friend. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: tune into "the evening edit" tomorrow and congressman pat fallon and fox news contributor pat tee son and he's bill mcgurn. i'm liz mcdonald, thank you for watching "the evening edit" and time to send to my bowed i dids at the bottom line. dagen and sean. take it away. dagen: thank you