david: thank you for watching this special petition of "asked kudlow." we were supposed to have scott perry, but he was tied up in one of these meetings about the government shutdown. have a wonderful weekend, folks. it is time to hand it over to listman donald. -- liz macdonald. elizabeth: good to have you back, david, i missed you. breaking news, the justice department just charged an irs contractor with leaking former president trump's private tax return information to the new york times. but did the doj seriously undercharge him?

and we've got top house lawmakers meaning in -- subpoenaing the bank records of hunter biden, james biden and their companies for the impeachment inquiry. we're going to dig into what they're looking at. and this story coming in, outraged lawmakers demand the biden administration fix squall will lid and filthy living conditions for u.s. troops here in the u.s. it's worse than what we reported. and we've got new reports that top democrat allies urged president biden to ditch campaigning on bidenomics as a, quote e, serious misstep. but we've9 got their reaction to that. and democrat senator elizabeth warren with slams a biden nominee over serious conflicts of interest. we're going to explain. i'm elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ elizabeth: let's get right to david spunt live in d.c. with

that story about an irs contractor charged with leaking trump's tax return information to the new york times. david spunt, it's good of you on. >> reporter: thank you for having me. his name is charles littlejohn, and according to this information packet, it's not technically called an indictment because we believe that there is a guilty plea that's going to happen at some point toon -- soon. we're told he was an irs contractor that worked for the internal revenue service from 2018-2021, leaked tax information from donald trump and some of the other ultra-wealthy people in the united states. this does not mention those names. to not only "the new york times," but a source also confirms propublica received some of this information. this happened during the trump presidency. we checked online, "the new york times" did several stories about donald trump's taxes during the height of the covid pandemic. so the actual allegations say that the defendant, meaning littlejohn, worked on contracts that that he had obtained with

the u.s. treasury's irs returns and return information, and from 2018-2020 while he was working as a contractor, he tole tax returns -- stole tax returns, return information associated with donald trump, gave request it to the new york times and also gave it to propublica. now, as far as charges are concerned, liz, we don't know what charges or punishment, we don't know what may actually happen because it appears that a guilty plea is in order. we reached out to doj for comment, comment is declined, but this explains a little bit more according to the government about why we were able to find out some stuff about donald trump's tax information back during the height of the pandemic that appeared in "the new york times" and propublica. elizabeth? elizabeth: david spunt, great reporting. thank you so much. let's bring in former federal prosecutor katie cherkasky and former deputy attorney general john yoo.

he disclosed trump's tax returns and the are -- returns of thousands of upper-bracket taxpayers. just one count. what do you think, katie? >> well, it sounds like he's in the process of cutting some sort of deal here. now, obviously, we don't know about the trent of the evidence that supports -- strength of the evidence that supports the allegation, so perhaps the prosecutor thought this was the cleanest way to dispose of the case. sounds very favorable based on the report that we just heard but, again, this doesn't seem like it's a final deal but very favorable, it's true. elizabeth: yeah, favorable. john, what's your reaction? i mean, thousands of tax returns. this is a breach of privacy. just one down. count. >> first of all, we should remember what the penalties are for just a single count, up to five years in jail and a fine of up to a quarter million dollars per leak. so if this person leaked thousands of tax returns, that's thousands of -- each one of

those is a violation according to federal law. so if this kauai's cutting a deal for just one single charge, he's getting away lucky. i think it's probably pretty easy to prove based on the retension of e-mails and document documents -- retention of e-mails and documents. i'm surprised that doj would consider this a difficult case to improvement i think this guy should actually be made an example of, because if we don't have taxpayer confidentiality, why should you, me, biden, trump, anyone tell the truth on our tax returns if we it's going to be disclosed to our neighbors and the newspapers the very next day? elizabeth: the irs would slam us if we didn't tell the truth on our returns, but your point's well taken, john. the irs should be fort knox when it comes to our private tax returns. this is a serious breach. we're going the to stay on this story. we've got to move on to this. katie, let's move on to house law a makers subpoenaing the bank records for hunter and james biden and their businesses. i mean, democrats and the media, katie, keep saying there's no evidence of joe biden profiting

off of this. yes, that's understood. but it's about building a money trail of biden family companies and and shells taking in at least $24 million from overseas, talking at least 20 the shell companies, then they send that money to the bank accounts of biden family members. that could possibly include the president. they have been stonewalled and obstructed every step of the way trying to get this information, katie. >> yeah. and i think it's very disingenuous to claim that there's no evidence here. there is more circumstantial evidence in this case than i've seen in cases that have been criminally indicted. the question of whether you can connect all of the dots to show exactly who got what money where especially when you're not going to have any enforcement power behind these subpoenas for all intents and purposes because the doj would have to make that decision, it's quite ridiculous to me. even just based upon what we have seen so far, i think that there's significant question about the corruption of joe biden directly. and that's based upon what we already know. now, i think it's worthwhile to pursue trying to get into those

records and actually connecting more of those dots, but the circumstantial case here is very strong. david: elizabeth: john, you and katie are brilliant working minds. you've been working on serious, deep, intense cases. john, there's a serious legal debate over whether the president can be impeach9 for -- inpreached for crimes and misdemeanors in -- while holding prior offices. is the constitution silent about that? what does it say? >> nobody knows. it seems to me, if i were to make a guess -- because, first of all, no president has ever been impeached for conduct that occurred before the president was with in office. so i have to make a guess. it says treason, bribery or the other high crimes and misdemeanors. maybe you could make a case if someone committed treason or bribery before they were president, they might be able to be um peached. could you commit other high crimes and misdemeanors before you were president and still be

removed from office, nobody knows. two judges have been impeached and removed from office for things they did before they were federal judges, so that's the only precedent we have with, but they weren't president either. so it's an unknown question. one last thing, it's up to the house to decide what's impeachable, and it's up to the senate to decide what to remove someone from office for. the supreme court has said federal courts are not to get involved, this is really up to the congress. elizabeth: you know, documents show hunter biden made nearly $5 million from his china deals. chinese nationals sent wire transfers of more than a quarter million bucks to joe biden's main home address in delaware, listing that home as a beneficiary. that's what the documents show. watch joe biden claim hunter never made any money from china, and watch hunter deny that too. watch. >> my son has not made money in terms of this thing about, what are you talking about the, china. if. >> the president has repeatedly said that you received $1.5

billion from china despite in experience and for no apparent reason -- >> look, this literally has no basis in fact in any way. >> have you received any money from business dealings -- >> no. >> not one cent? >> not one cent. >> do you think it was wrong for him to take that position -- >> no. >> -- knowing that it was really because in that company wanted access to you? >> well, that's not true. you're saying things you do not know what you're talking about. no one said that. who said that? >> [inaudible] >> at least ten times joe biden lie to the american people that he never spoke to his family about their business dealings. >> my democrat colleagues say none of this is relevant because joe biden wasn't vice president while his family did e these shady deals. turns out that's complete and total [bleep]. it's a lie. hunter biden refer to access to his father as the keys to his family's only asset. those words are going to come back and haunt hunter biden. elizabeth: so, katie, is the

media getting snowed, getting yelled at, bullied and and yelled at by the president when they're asking canning about this? >> joe biden has made common travelly false statements with regard to receipt of funds by his son from foreign countries. and i think when we're talking about whether pre-office acts could be the basis for impeachment, if a president is compromised or corrupt and is in office, i think that that would absolutely be a basis to look into whether they're fit to continue in office. elizabeth: got it. katie, john, we're so sorry we ran out of time. we both appreciate your brilliance and legal minds. we appreciate you coming on. we hope you come back again soon. thank you so much. >> thank you. elizabeth: joining us now from house oversight and house judiciary, congressman andy biggs. let's get an update on the government shutdown. it's at an impasse. you just voted today with 20 other lawmakers no on an interim budget bill. what's happening now? >> a lot of meetings going on, a

lot of people talking about what they want to do in the next step. i personally wish that we were taking that time and actually trying to pass the other six bills that have already been passed so so we can get those bills out and to the floor and start debating those. but right now everybody's wringing their hands instead of acting. elizabeth: okay. so then there's this, let's move on to the impeachment kind -- inquiry. documents released out of ways and means. now we see a july 2016 letter hunter biden cosigned with officials from burisma to ukraine's top prosecutor demanding that he back off from, quote, making allegations of criminal activities against burisma. that was after hunter was e-mailed talking about getting $5 million from sitting on the board of ukraine's burisma. >> yeah, that's right, liz. so when you start looking at this whole pattern, you'll see obviously hunter is facilitating

the brand, wes -- which is joe biden and he's facilitating, he's kind of a liaison between the ceo of burisma who's being investigated by viktor shokin, the ukrainian prosecutor, and what the ukrainian ceo wants is he wants that prosecution stopped, and he has said in one of our, one of the documents that we have that's why he got hunter biden on the board in the first place, to get access to joe biden to stop this. so you start looking at all of these things, they add up to joe biden knows what's going on, and it adds up to joe biden acting, taking action on behalf of burisma and effectively a quid pro quo. elizabeth: quid pro joe is what the critics are calling him. and then this, ways and means releasing a hunter biden text message to his business partner in chai -- can china's oil giant indicating joe biden would join

them for a meeting in august of 2017. quote, my uncle will be here with his brother when would like to say hello to the chairman. what do you think? >> yeah. there's a reason that they had to deliver the goods. it wasn't an illusion of influence peddling here, this is actual influence peddling. is hunter has to deliver the goods. he's going to bring joe there, then-vice president. he's going to bring him not just to the chinese meeting, he's going to take him to the russian oligarch meeting. he's going to arrange a telephone the finish the call and later a statement to the media that he was able to get ukraine out. so the point is all over the world hunter biden is facilitating the meetings of these well hawaii people who are transferring money to the -- wealthy people who are transferring money to the biden businesses to get access to joe biden. elizabeth: got it. congressman biggs, thanks for joining us. it's good to see you. is and joining us tonight, congresswoman kat cammack, former u.s. treasury official

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the week. >> yeah. sadly, i think your assessment that it's much bigger than what's being reported is, sadly, probably accurate and, from my experience, probably checks with what i experienced as well in my 20 plus years in the navy. it's unacceptable, it's certainly requiring leadership's engagement, and i'm talking senior uniformed leadership's engagement. as a senior officer, even as a mid-grade officer, i would visit my junior enlisted and june officers' barracks and quarters to the make sure it was up to standards. the same thing needs to be held to all of the senior leaders, that they need to check on how their soldiers, sailors and airmen are living. elizabeth: we just showed a bed with bedbugs, sue war -- it's a hair on fire moment. fix it now. please bear with us, again, it's worse than what we reported. inspections of a dozen military installations, bedbugs, rodents,

cockroaches. talking a precursor to legionnaire back tier what, a respiratory illness associated with black old, education pose you -- exposure to methane gas, brown water that's undrinkable, broken security systems, windows, door locks, fire alarms, air conditioners all broken. heating systems where rooms hit more than 90 degrees fahrenheit. brent, can you e please explain to the viewer what our troops go through in their, you know, conditioning, their a daily routines observe our country in and then they have to come home to that. >> absolutely. i mean, they all are patriots, they all sign up to put their lives at risk. they live in very spartan conditions, but where they have their stuff, their gear and with where they go to rest and relax, their home shouldn't be a -- should be a place that they're comfortable. and in a competition for people in a tight market for bringing people in and recruiting that stinks, quite frankly, this is

not how you treat them if you want to win that fight to keep them. elizabeth: lawmakers are outraged. it's a cities grace. they sent a letter to the pentagon, fix it now. white house, fix it now. our troops do not deserve this. they're demanding answers on why they live in squalor. again, it's a total disgrace. and now the pentagon asked for about a $15 billion for overall facility sustainment. they couldn't identify how much of this total would be pent on the bare rocks though -- barracks though. your final word. >> a couple years ago we had a string of suicides in norfolk, virginia, because the conditions there were so horrific and so pressing that you had a string of suicides. and yet still it's only been in the last several weeks that we've actually seen any movement on a barracks barge actually coming to deliver some relief to these sailors that live down there. so that type of timeline, inadequate. leadership needs to get involved and leads to be -- needs to be

seen in the barracks and the housing, and i'm talking, like, secretary secretary of army a, secretary of the navy, air force, they these to be down there. the last time i saw this, in my experience it turned around quickly, when the secretary of navy's wife toured the barracks in pearl hard harbor, and they turned it around in several years. elizabeth: my family doesn't like it when we talk about our family. my mother never knew her father. he died from mustard gas complications, getting hit with husband standard gas in world war i. you know, so she was 1 when he died. my grandmother was pregnant during the great depression, world war, you know, 193 -- 19332. a year later she loseses her brother, fire department, fdny, pneumonia. my sister-in-law lost her husband on nerve. we know what men and women like you who serve our country have to put up with. we understand loss and sacrifice, brent. we understand you served 25

years. you care about our country. that our troops are put through this and there's not a hair on fire moment in this white house now, no statement from the president about it is a disgrace. final word. >> absolutely. so if the administration's not going to act, congress members can actually put a spotlight on it by actually themselves going down to these sites. it takes strong political leadership to actually get the gears in motion on this and to actually get results. is and million that happens, we're going to continue living this nightmare, unfortunately. elizabeth: again, i have to apologize to the viewer, going into my personal detail. we don't like it. i hate when people talk about themselves on camera, but this story, i can't take it. brent, thank you so much. good to have you on. wall street economists are warning bidenomics is tipping the u.s. into stagflation. we not the government forecasting u.s. gdp growth slowing down to 2.1%. but the president is saying, you know what? i'm not going to ditch bidenomics. we're going to explain coming up on "the evening edit." ♪

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elizabeth: okay, welcome back. the government estimates u.s. gdp growth slowed down to 2.1% for the second quarter and more wall street economists were looking are through the reports, they warn we could be in stagflation if right now under this white house. edward lawrence has the story at the white house. edward. >> reporter: well, liz, inflation moving in the wrong direction. the latest report out today shows that overall inflation actually increasing .4% month over month and 3.5% year over year with core inflation falling for the first time since may. this is not what the federal reserve wants to see as i asked the chicago fed president about the situation yesterday. is that mission accomplished for that month then, if you see, you know, overall going up but core staying where it is? >> i wouldn't call it mission accomplished because we're still above the target inflation the rate. so inflation still has to come down. but if you take a step back and you look at the last three months, we got on the cpi side

core inflation is down to 2.4%. that's come down far faster than anyone predicted. >> reporter: still, the white house ignores the fact that starting this march of last year the federal reserve raised rates 11 of the past 13 meetings to try and fight inflation that spiked under president biden. yet the white house wants you to focus on its spin. >> the president in the last two years has been able to get our economy back on track, right? we've talked about the 13.5 million jobs, unemployment being under 4%. >> reporter: a recent washington post/abc poll shows only 30% of americans approve of the president's handling of the economy, that's his lowest marks of his presidency for that. back to you. elizabeth: edward lawrence, thank you so much. let's welcome back former treasury department official michael faulkender. you heard all that, michael, and then what is your take on this new political report, top biden allies and democrats thousand say the president's got to ditch his bidenomics term, that this is, quote, a serious misstep, a

mistake, but politico reporting the white house is dismissing these democrat fears as, quote, premature and overblown? what do you think? >> you know, liz, it's a amusing to listen to karine jean-pierre from the white house podium declare that biden inherited a mess and that he's been spending the last two years bringing back the economy when, in fact, the economy that he inherited was one where we had regained almost all of the economic output that was lost during the pandemic and the inflation rate was less than 2%. but then biden went on a tear with massive amounts of government spending, he stopped -- he declared war on oil and natural a gas here in the united states and as a result created 40-year-high inflation. and then goes out and tries to think that the american people only care about jobs and tries to tout his re-election campaign as a built on bidenomics. well, but what the american people know is that bidenomics is biden-flation.

by shutting down oil and natural gas, by throwing trillions of dollars extra into the economy, running massive budget deficits, it's no wonder that we get these massive price increases, and that's why most of the american people have such an accurately poor opinion of the economy and the president's handling of it. why the white house seems to want to continue reminding the american people of the economy that joe biden caused that is looked upon so disfavorably, i can understand why other democrats want the white house to scrap that term. elizabeth: okay. but the president is instead doubling down. he's going to double down on bide how manics, and he's demon ifizing -- demonizing tens of millions of voters, calling them maga republicans. the first democratic primary, this is his take right now, he's going to say maga-nomics is bad? >> this is the problem, the american people remember what

the trump economy was like back in 2018 and 2019. we had 7 -- 3% economic growth, the unemployment rate hit a 50-year low, the poverty rate hit an all-time low for all races, and so the american people recognize that they had a great can economy urn president trump, and that shows through the polls. and so if the biden administration wants to the compare the biden economy to the trump economy, that's the kind of comparison that i think america first, principled leaders are going to want to have that comparison out many front of the american people in this next campaign. elizabeth: michael, thank you so much for joining us. we'll have you back on again soon. okay, why is president biden putting up for nomination people with glaring conflicts of interest in an unexpected democrat ally, senator elizabeth warren, is outraged over one nominee. we're going to take that on coming up. plus, we have florida congresswoman kat cammack, gop

lawmakers slamming the biden white house for multiple executive actions weakening border securities. plus, we're finding more if more big boondoggles, government waste, fraud and abuse in border spending. white house insiders, one guy allegedly had a company profiting off of this. it's coming up on "the evening edit." ♪ ♪ it's not just designed to look good... it's built to command attention. it's not just a comfortable interior... it's a quiet refuge. they're not just headlights... they light the way forward.

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you. we've heard from a number of republicans, even a handful of democrats who have criticized the president's border policies, but so far the white house showing no sign of changing strategy and, of course, we're looking to see whether or not that changes in the days and weeks ahead. the president was out west earlier in the week making stops in arizona and california. political fundraisers on the agenda as well as a speech honoring the late senator john mccain. the president chose not to visit any border facilities. an abc/washington post poll showing 632% disaproof -- 622 percent disawe proof of the handling of the southern border. house speak wear kevin mccarthy posted, 30,000 illegal border crossings in 3 days isn't a talking point, it's the record-breaking reality that is turning every community in america into a border city, and president biden is deliberately letting it happen. that's e the speaker's comments. the white house pushing back, insisting it's up to congress to come up with a comprehensive immigration reform.

it threatened to veto a bill which would is have restarted construction on the border wall. still, the white house says it is willing to spend more money on border security, but to a point. >> a border is an issue for the house republicans -- if border is an issue i, where's the dialogue on what the president asked for? to help with enforcement, to help with transportation costs, to help with detention capacity? >> reporter: we expect to hear a lot more about the border a little bit later on this weekend as the pending government shutdown looms ever closer. the white house is trying to frame this, liz, on what it'll mean for the border agents because they'll still have to be on the job, but they won't be paid. the white house has already called a lid, it's pretty quiet with, so all the action is up on the hill, an indication the white house is just waiting to see. elizabeth: yeah, they're going to be working through the weekend. mark meredith, thank you so much. look who's here, florida congresswoman kat cammack. it's good to see you again,

thanks for joining us this friday night. okay, the boondoggle, the insider cronyism in spending for the border crisis, it's very real. america first legal got freedom of information documents, the biden white house gave a no-bid contract to a company that hired a former biden insider and, congresswoman, that that contract quickly quadrupled to $2 billion. it was originally about $530 billion. what's going on here? >> this is typical of the biden administration. they are pay to maker as we know, and unless there's a dollar sign with it, they'll go existence it. in this case, they found a way to enrich their friends and family members and, of course, they're not only going to take advantage, but they're going to double, triple, quadruple the price of what it should been as a matter of getting rich. this is the hypocrisy and double standard of the biden administration that all republicans, all democrats, all independents are sick and tire of. we need to get very serious

about border security immediately. the border is officially broken. and this nonsense of doing no-bid contracts which, my god, in any other industry that would, that's just an absolute ridiculous notion, but apparently it works. we have to do this now. we have the actually secure the border. elizabeth: yeah. yes, sir. and -- yes. and this company, this gentleman who worked there, he's at that company, he worked on the biden transition team. okay, that $530 million at that time, the original no-bid contract, was 12 times the company's entire budget reportedly, and now it's charging taxpayers $4,000 for a bed? [laughter] >> this is just what is so crazy about if border situation. urn the trump -- under the trump administration, they were focused on securing the border, not constructing additional soft-sided facilities that would encourage people to come. they were stopping the flow. here it's about making money for

their friends and their cronies, so they want to continue to build more soft-sided facilities, encourage people to come and use it as a clearinghouse where instead of being apprehended and turn thed around, you're paroled into the united states at the american taxpayer expense. there really is no end in sight for this biden administration and the disgusting lengths that they will go. let's. elizabeth: let's listen to ayanna pressley claim the border's secure, but when pressed on that, backed off. watch. >> our border is secure -- >> wait, it is -- you think it is secure? you think the border is secure or it is not secure? >> i believe that we are in the midst of a humanitarian crisis. elizabeth: your reaction? >> anyone who thinks that the border is secure is delusional. the border is absolutely wide open for thin from any nation to come through at will. this is why border security is the number one issue for americans right now.

if we have -- we have children being raped, trafficked, we have people from 151 different nations who have been apprehended at the border. we have seen 7.6 million individuals cross our border illegally. our border patrol agents have been stretch to the max. now with a looming government shutdown they will still be require to work but not get paid. this isn't funny, it's not a joke. our national security is on the line, and i can't even bin to tell you how many -- begin to tell you how many terrorists have been a apprehended at the border, people on the international terror watch list. there's going to be a national tragedy that unfolds before democrats start taking this seriously. they're playing with people's lives and pocketbooks. elizabeth: 1,042 since president biden sat in to value office. about 1,04 the terrorists caught at the border. congresswoman, thanks for joining us. it's good to see you again. we've got this story coming in, chinese hackers, cyber hack into the state department.

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he'll resign from the board of clover health, an insurance company. senator warren points out that insurance company makes a ton of money from medicare advantage. what's going on here? >> well, this is $100,000 salary that this nominee makes, so it's not like he's raking in millions. and if you watch this testimony is and you watched this back and forth between senator warren and the nominee, it seems like we don't have lawmakers at this point, liz, we have performance artists. senator warren, you know, if if she wants to object to this nominee, that's fine. but she did so in such a way where she was playing to the media, traditional, social, doesn't matter to put on big show to draw attention to herself to show you she cares so much about issue. elizabeth warren's net worth is $80 million, so whenever she goes up on this very, very high moral pedestal and starts lecturing about somebody making $100,000, i see her as hypocritical. elizabeth: yeah, but, joe, he should resign. he shouldn't be sitting as a trustee in medicare and at the

same time as insurer making a ton of money from medicare advantage. this feels like a conflict. let's watch what happened. >> okay. >> and, if confirmed as a public trustee, do you plan to quit the clover board? >> senator, i'm date withful to the president and his team for the review of my credentials an- >> i mean, really. you know you're going to have to answer question. is it yes or no? would limiting the medicare advantage program undercut the profitability of clover, the company that by law you are supposed to be watching out for? >> that was a question. >> i'm not sure i understood the question. >> this kind of conflict is shocking, and it is deeply unearth thissing chasm -- unethical. not a single other trustee has ever received compensation from an insurance company while acting as a medicare trustee. i will strongly oppose your

nomination, and i will encourage every other senator in body to do so as well. elizabeth: joe, let me back up. we watched, i watched the whole sound clip. he repeatedly refused to answer if he would step down from this insurer e, clover health. repeatedly wouldn't answer. the question, let me -- set aside senator elizabeth warren. why is he the best guy for medicare as a trustee? >> oh, he's clearly not in this situation, elizabeth, right? he was reading from notes. it was hike watching an a.i. nominee, right? just kept going back to some answers written down for him. [laughter] where i have a problem with the senator is if she has such a problem with nominee based on everything we just talk about, i didn't hear a name we should have heard, biden, as in president biden. this is his nominee. this isn't a trump nominee, some republican who was put up there in some way. she should have had a conversation with the president before with hand and said you've

got to pull this guy for this reason or ask him to, obviously, resign from this particular company or the board because, absolutely, it's a conflict of interest. instead, she didn't do that. she can say is i oppose this, but she should say and the president was wrong to nominate you in the first place, and he obviously how old answer to this. but, obviously, because of politics, she's not going to do that. elizabeth: well, your perspective is well taken, joe. good analysis. joe concha, thank you so much. now this coming up, secretary of state antony blinken now admits that former president obama was wrong in that 2012 debate with gop senator mommy -- mitt romney. plus, fears grow china took information possibly on taiwan out of a major cyber hack into the state department's computer systems. we've got the story coming up. ♪ ♪

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barack obama talk about russia as a main adversary of the united states and barack obama wants his foreign-policy back. it turns out mitt romney was right, is that fair to say. >> i thought he was rather pressured for some of the things that he said. elizabeth: that's an understatement, what do you think? >> it is a little bit of a lovefest between two different swamp critters secretary lincoln and met robbie on the other. it was obnoxious what president obama said in 2012 the 80s called and they want their foreign-policy back. two years later when vladimir putin invaded crimea in eastern ukraine. obama was flippant and dismissive of threat from russia and that hurt us in the free world. mitt romney was still kind of wrong russia is not the number one gop political threat is a serious threat but china is a serious threat. this seems like a little too

little too late and i l lovefest as romney will be leaving the senate at the end of this term. dagen: potentially general milley is stepping down to. you mentioned china, what did you make that this report that hackers linked to the chinese government around 60000 e-mails from the unclassified in boxes of ten state department employees. elizabeth: into big high profile hack, hit commerce secretary gina raimondo, what do you th think. >> we have more details, originally we knew the top layers of the commerce department but specifically state department that focus on specific issues. what are weakening from the summer of love we just sent over janet from another planet, the treasury secretary to china. we sent anthony blinken to china, the national security advisor, we set the commerce secretary gina raimondo. when you're trying to have good relations with people you pulled back on espionage and the u.s. would pull back on the

overflights of soviet union at the two leaders were gametes. china has given us nothing, the outreach to china the soft term that's been going on for the last six or nine months were not seen any response from china not even a little respect, the trying to spy the crap out of us and seem to be doing it really well. elizabeth: it looks like the hack was focused on indo pacific diplomatic effort, is this about taiwan. >> probably about taiwan but china has eastern asian west pacific. we have a new basing agreement going on with the philippines, something going on with new guinea. people take this threat seriously even if the president does not, they're trying to build relationships throughout the pacific. it could be that the crisis point focus of taiwan but it could be broad east asia issues. elizabeth: are we here on fire enough with the chinese by balloons, now this.

final word and. >> it is a real threat and if you look at ships and planes of nuclear systems that we devoted to the china threat it decreases everything will administration. we are not taken seriously, we're distracted elsewhere. elizabeth: we will have you back on soon. tune into "the evening edit" on monday senator brown johnson, senator ted cruz, congresswoman beth van duyne and much, much more. i am elizabeth macdonald, thank you for watching "the evening edit", that does it for us. we hope you have a good weekend. thank you for joining us. now it's time for the bottom line birgit ascended over to dagen and sean. watch the show they are terrific. ♪. dagen: good evening i am dagen mcdowell. sean: i'm sean duffy. happy friday, welcome to the bottom line. when it rains it pours