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down. we're not going to get out of that because the market is still coming to terms what i believe is going to be one more fed hike. you had bob doll talking about earnings season and the first two quarters of the year were negative, there was declines in earnings. this quarter is supposed to be the pivot where we start to see a reacceleration of profit about. fourth quarter is really what analysts were expecting 7-8% growth in earnings for the s&p 500 companies. to be determined. if that number comes in, we've got a lot more volatility ahead. maria: underline that, to be determined, as we're about to get the third quarter earnings reports in a week and a half. thank you so much, we will see you back here same time, same place tomorrow morning. "varney & company" picks it up now. stu, take it away. stuart: good morning, everyone. if you like political drama, this is your day. florida congressman matt gaetz is trying to force speaker mccarthy out. democrats are meeting this morning to decide if they'll give him any support. if they do give him the votes,
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they will demand concessions. how is that a win for republicans? if they don't support him and the speaker is toppled, there is no obvious successor. chaos. how is that a win for republicans, he asks. to the markets. a minor selloff in progress. it's more related to rising interest rates than republican chaos. the dow's looking down about 170, nasdaq now down 130 points. look at the 10-year treasury yield, that's the story of the morning. the yield is all the way up to 4.72%. it was 4.74 just moments ago. the 2-year is moving up as well, 5.12 on the 2-year. oil, not hutch change there, still looking at $88 a barrel, but the price of gas is starting to come to down. man, did i get that wrong. overnight, the average moved to $3.79, down 2 cents. it's still over $6 in california, $6.02 for those lucky people. diesel unchained -- unchanged at
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$4.55. bad news for the president. in a monmouth poll, 76% say biden is just too old. democrats are getting worried. it's like 2016 when they backed a vulnerable hillary clinton. she lost to trump. biden is vulnerable. he too could lose to trump. hit the democrat panic button. on the hoe today, the l.a. times suggest men pay when going on a date on the grounds that that would be reparations for repressing women with lower e incomes. and we're going to get taylor swift in here somewhere, believe me. dave portnoy doesn't like the way the nfl handled her ea appearance sunday. he better not diss the swifties on this show. tuesday, october 3rd, 2023. "varney & company" is about to begin. ♪ ♪ ♪ oh, yeah, all right, take it
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easy, baby ♪ stuart: one of the great songs of all time the, i one of the great rock starses, the late and great tom petty. american girl. don't you love that that? let's get on with it. we've got a new poll from monmouth university. it reveals 76% of voters believe biden is just too old to serve another term. even among just democrats, 56% say the president is too old. look who's here, will cain. will, it reminds me of 2016. democrats backed hillary clinton and she lost. voters are not enthusiastic about biden. how do they get him out? >> i don't i don't know that they can, stuart. i know the mechanisms that they could possibly pursue which is hope that gavin newsom or someone else comes jumping into a primary really, really soon, we're only a couple weeks away from getting your name on the balloter -- ballot for the first primaries. or going to the unprecedented,
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historical move of replacing him at the convention where he says he endorses somebody else after winning the primary for president. but i just don't know that -- i mean, that's betting against history in either situation. so they may be stuck with this vulnerable, old man for president. stuart: well, that sounds grim. do you think there is an analogy here with hillary clinton back in 2016 and her campaign? she was very vulnerable, but the democrats kept -- >> e yeah, they liked her. nobody likes do -- yeah, to your point, nobody liked her, but they kept supporting hillary clinton. nobody seems to like joe biden much at all, but they're kind of wedded, suck to him. this whole thing about whether or not he's too old, i think, the wrong question. i think users -- responders to a poll, they replace the idea of old with competent. and i don't think they actually punish joe biden because of his age, but because they know he doesn't have much left in the gas tank. they can see he's well past his
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crime. stuart: and the feeling is if he attempts to be president for another five and a half years, that opens door to president harris, and that is a very significant downside view of the biden-harris ticket. last word to you. >> yeah, that's absolutely true. i mean, that is terrifying, opening the door for vice president kamala harris. enough to the perhaps swing a independent swing voter. that's the whole calculus, what is more terrifying. we all know that president trump has some limitations when it comes to bringing over swing or independent voters that may have changed in the past four years. but that is going to be measured against the prospects of dealing with a president who can't make his way up the stairs, trails off in mid sentence and then if if it declines, which is likely too, turns it over to kamala harris who is of her full mental acuity, and that's concerning. stuart: thanks for being with us this morning, will. always appreciate it. >> yeah, thank you. stuart: you got it, man.
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jackie deangelis is with me, sitting here for the rest of this hour. >> glad to be here. stuart: democrats worried? do they have a plan b? >> they don't, and and that's why they're worried. this is a tricky situation, stu. you're the younger person and you have to take the car keys away from your parents. how do you do it and get them to relinquish those responsibilities? you know if they get behind the wheel, they might hurt themselves and other people. that's how i see joe biden right now, and i think the problem is they have nobody who can really replace anymore a strong way. maybe it's gavin newsom. some are saying it's michelle obama stepping up to the plate. i don't really know, but you've got to get him to allow that person to come in to get the support, and really at the end of the day who you choose as your nominee or who you choose to put on the ticket is going to be so important. the republicans have a lot more choices. they also have choices to make, and they need to make the right choice. because if you pick the hillary clinton, you're going to lose it all. stuart: good analogy. i don't want to make a mountain
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out of a molehill, but the fire alarm incident, if that rolls on, congressman bowman pulled the alarm, and many suspect he was trying to delay a vote so it would look like republicans had shut town the government. watch this, please. >> reporter: would president biden ever try to get out of a meeting by pulling a fire alarmsome. [laughter] >> are you talking about something specifically? >> reporter: a democratic member of congress pulled the fire alarm around a series of votes. no fire. is that appropriate? >> what i can tell you is i have not talked, spoken to the president about this, and so just in the going to comment. stuart: i tell you, peter doocy, what a white house correspondent that guy is -- >> he's amazing. he hates him. [laughter] stuart: are we making a mountain out of a molehill? >> no, i don't think so at all. listen, there's a very big difference between a fire alarm and a door handle, and if you are in congress, you should know the difference. there's no saying i made a mistake here. having said that, that's
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obstruction. he's trying to delay a vote, trying to delay procedure. for think about who wants to go after president trump for january 6th, you knead to go after jamaal bowman for interfering in the process as well. not okay. stuart: we got some serious news overnight, democrat congressman henry cuellar was car jacked at gunpoint. was this in downtown d.c.? >> it was. and it was in front of the congressional dormitories which, i guess, is a lot of these people who come in for when house is in session. thank god he wasn't hurt, right? that's great. but having said that, i mean, crime is raging out of control. we see it in all the big cities across the country, and nobody's immune to it, even if you work in congress. to a certain degree, we've got to own this this as a country, understand what happened here and band together to try to improve things because this is no way for anybody to live. i tell you all the time, i walk around here with my heart in my throat because you never know what's going to happen.
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and not only do i carry mace, stu, but now they're telling me i need to carry narcan. stuart: welcome to new york. i hope you're happy here. you've been here for a long time. >> that's another conversation. stuart: it is, indeed. america's top banker, jamie dimon, he says artificial intelligence will lead to shorter workweeks, allow people live to be 100 years old and and even cure cancer. david bahnsen with me. jamie dimon, wildly positive about a.i., how about you? >> well, if it cures cancer and it extends human life, i'm all for it. jamie doesn't know that will happen, and i certainly don't know that will happen. his comment that bothered me is this idea that it will bring us down to a three-and-a-half-day workweek, he's totally wrong about that, but he doesn't know why he's wrong, and i do. stuart: tell us. >> yes, sir. he's wrong because god created us to work. not three and a half days, not half-time, not part time, full time.
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six days shalt thou work is something i read in the bible once. and a.i. can make us more efficient. different technological innovations can help us do our work more productively, but the notion that mankind is supposed to be sitting around with half of their time in idleness and leisure and recreation is untrue, and it will never, ever happen. stuart: you are a judeo judeo-christian philosopher, if i may say so. now, let me move on. if you want to comment, you may. you've got three dividend picks. first off, apollo are. what does it pay? >> well, stuart, i wanted to do these three together because this is really important. apollo, blackstone and blue owl are all part of one theme. it's not just three individual picks today, it's three asset managers that were all up in september. they were all up in q3. and apollo and blackstone are up about 45 on the year -- 45% on the year, and they're all part
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of this hemothat that banks are lending less and private credit as she set managers are lending more. -- asset managers are rending more. they're picking up the share that banks are giving up. and i can't everyone -- emphasize enough how good the trends are and how early this story is. so you have a over 4% dividend yield from blue owl, over 3% from blackstone. apollo's getting ready to raise their dividend again. these are three picks that all fit together in one theme, stuart. stuart: you're a good man. thanks so much for giving me blackstone many years ago. that did very well for me. david bahnsen, see you seven soon. check futures, it is tuesday morning. i see some red, quite a lot of it. down 140 on the dow, down 111 on the nasdaq. dave portnoy, or he's going to be the on the show later, he's got a problem with taylor swift and the nfl. congressman matt gaetz has moved to oust kevin mccarthy,
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stuart: running up to the opening bell, i see the dow off about a 150, nasdaq down about 120 points. some selling this morning. congressman matt gaetz has filed a motion to oust kevin mccarthy as house speaker. chad pill grim on capitol hill. -- chad pergram on capitol hill. take us through it. >> reporter: house republicans meet for the first time since matt gaetz announced his intention to oust mccarthy.
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gaetz is confident he will eventually be able to force the house to choose a new speaker. >> i have enough republicans where at this point next week one of two things will happen, kevin mccarthy won't be the speaker of the house, or he'll be working at the pleasure of the democracy. the -- democrats. the american people deserve the know who governs them. >> reporter: he doesn't like that mccarthy passed a bill with democratic votes. mccarthy's fate could hinge on potential democratic support. some democrats would vote to remove mccarthy, others may sit the vote out and some are not sure. >> we're also kind of here because kevin mccarthy gave matt gaetz the infinity stones, and now here all surprised matt gaetz is going to try to snap the his fingers and and make kevin go away. this was inevitable. with that said hakeem jeffries has been doing a fantastic job as our leader the last 8 or 9
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months, i'm waiting to hear from him before i headache any decisions. >> reporter: -- make any decisions. >> reporter: some gop members having second thoughts. >> what is your conscience telling you? >> to society him out. >> why? -- to vote him out. >> why? >> we've got $33 trillion in debt, we're not addressing it. we didn't -- feel like we haven't kept our word on several things. >> reporter: a vote could come as early as today. a senior gop leadership source says they may want to get it over with. the house has not had a vote of no confidence in a speaker since 910. -- 1910. mccarthy says, quote, bring it on. back to you. stuart: let's bring in florida congressman mike waltz joining us this morning. congressman, come on, where do you standsome do you want to remove speaker mccarthy? >> you know, stu, i understand the the frustration with status quo, the debt, the border,
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everything here in the swamp in washington, but i just don't know that this is the plan. in the military, we call this a circular firing squad, you know? in soccer they call it an own goal. and what i don't get is representative. >> gaetz and those that agree with him will have to work with democrats to make this happen, and then speaker mccarthy will have to work with democrats in order to stop it. so you know the people smiling right now are nancy pelosi, chuck schumer and joe biden. finish and every minute that we spp spend dealing with this, we're not spending cutting spending, securing the border and achieving our conservative goals that we were elect to do. so i'm frustrated as hell. stuart: so i don't want to preempt your vote, but will you rote to keep kevin mccarthy as speaker? >> well, look, i mean -- [laughter] let's see how this all lays out. we haven't done this in a
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hundred years, and what peeker mccarthy is going to have -- speaker mccarthy is going to have to do is put a motion what they call to table it. and in order to overcome that, gaetz is going to have to work with democrats. i just don't see that as in our interest. i think we need to get back to work. and if that means keeping speaker mccarthy to us back -- to get us back to achieve what we were elected to do, otherwise i don't see a plan. people are talking about getting rid of him. well, then who? and the biggest thing, stu, what we're also not doing is going after joe biden's corrupt and -- can corrupt and uncovering what that crime family is up to. because we're all talking about this rather than that. stuart: i'm going to move on if that's okay with you, congressman. next case, the penting gone is warning of dwindling u.s. supply stockpiles. you're on the armed services
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committee. what should we do about this? send less to ukraine? what should we do? >> what we've been doing is sending our old stuff, our old am in addition and equipment, and then buying new stuff to replenish. but -- and i've been okay with that. the problem is what is the plan from joe biden. how long is this going to happen, how long, you know, how long is this effort going to take, what does victory look like? and, oh, by the way, stu, what are the europeans doing to defend themselves and share this burden? and, you know, in the middle of our border being out of control, i just don't see this support continuing forever because the american people are saying how long is this going to take? joe biden has dithered us into a stalemate here. and you're just seeing that frustration grow and grow. stuart: what we really need is a lot more military spending. isn't that the case's? and that's not what we're going to get.
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>> well, i'll tell you by percent of gdp in the cold war the minimum amount was 4%. it went all the way up to 11%. right now we're at 2.5. and with the threats we're facing from china breathing down our neck, with iran racing toward a nuke, north korea having a nuke, an invasion on our southern border, yeah, or i would support more efficient military spending. and every dollar that we save through reforms in the pentagon we need to be investing in the ships, planes and tanks we need to defend against china. stuart: you've got a tough job ahead of you, but you're the man to do it. congressman, thank you very much for being with us. see you again soon. >> thanks, stu. stuart: futures, the condition is still deep red. down 160 on the dow, down 120 on the nasdaq. the opening bell is next. ♪ you say good-bye and i say hello. ♪ hello, hello. ♪ i don't know why you say
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over 100 points. mike lee with us. you have got a fairly negative if outlook on the market and the economy. interest rate slowdown, etc., etc. my question is, are you dell selling -- selling anything? >> well, look, i think i'm going to lighten up all of my equity exposure in the next coming days and lighten up my fixed income exposure given what's going on. you know, from an investor standpoint, you want to keep politics out of this. but the fact of the heart is we're looking at a $2.5 trillion deficit this year, the third largest ever, the second largest in a time of expansion, and i think that has a lot to do with what's going on in the long end of the fixed million curve -- stuart: o.k.. you say you're lightening up on the equity side, stocks. you're lightening up on fixed income. bonds, i take the it. so what are you doing? are you going to cash, treasuries, is that what you're up to? >> yep. short term -- so taking away
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from intermediate and long-term fixed income as well as equities and to short-term treasuries, taking in 5.a 5%. -- 5.5%. stuart, i don't know how accurate a lot of the jobses data and con sunlight data we're getting -- consumption data we're getting because ever single jobs number we got this year on the first announcement was above expectations only later to be announced below expectations. that's a 12 standard deviation probability can has so many zero ises, i can't even count that high. and many gdp last week, the personal consumption revision was a 9 standard deviation event. without some sort of chi cannery, these numbers are not really explain bl. so with tax revenues being down 10% year-over-year even though they were expected to be up as recent as may, i'm thinking this is getting a little bit ugly uglier, and i think interest rates will come down but not for the reasons people want. stuart: we just put the on the
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careen the yield for the 6-montr the 6-month treasury, 5.85 right now. i put my money into a short-term treasury money fund, so to speak, i'm looking at well over 5.5. i just don't see what's wrong with that. >> absolutely. and that's, you know, i thought we were going to get a turn on the long end, and i thought we were kind of, you know, just a couple months ago we were kind of out of the woods on equities, but what the equity market is priced on is a reacceleration of earnings growth into next year. and with all of these headwinds, i just don't see that as a remote possibility. so is, you know, look, i thought we were going to have a recession earlier year. i was wrong, okay? so instead of being 85, 90% in the markets, we're going to take that down to 75, 80%. so adding a little bit of cash, and hen from the fixed income exposure and things further out on the yield curve, we're going to reduce that by 5-10. stuart: the future of the market depends largely on the future of
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profits from american corporations, and you're saying that profits will not, will not be good next year. that's your base case, right? >> well, right now the market is priced on a reacceleration of earnings growth, and that will be up high single digits next year -- stuart: and we're not going to get it. >> if tax revenues are down over 10% and most likely down next year with interest rates staying higher, i just don't see how it's possible. stuart: okay. we liked the old days of the super bowl with, and we'd like to see them come back. mike lee, thanks very much for joining us. ten seconds to go to open the market on a tuesday morning. as i always say, we're waiting for the gentleman to press the button, or lady, whoever does it. do it. okay, the market's open, and the dow is down over 100 points right from the start. wait for them all to open up. there's 30 stocks in the dow industrials. when they've opened up, we'll show them to you, get a sense of where this market is. stocks fall as bond yields reach
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a 16-year high. no surprises there. the dow is down 134, the s&p is down 18. moving up towards a half percentage point down. the nasdaq composite, that's down this morning because the 10-year treasury yield is up. look at that, up .59%. show me big tech, please. probably getting hit this morning. yeah, correct. microsoft is down. alphabet, apple, meta, amazon, they're all down. it's not a huge selloff, but they're all down. and there's this, microsoft's chief executive testified in the government's antitrust case against google. he was right there in court testifying. what did he say? >> he basically said that google has used, you know, bad tactics to put itselfs first in the search ingeneral game. they're the default on many people's browsers, on many people's phones and how they inserted themselves in there. so he is bolstering the government's antitrust case and also talking his own book a little bit too, right? i'm an alternative but ooh i'm
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not number one, and we wish that we were. so how do we make the playing field a little bit more fair. stuart: it's a clash of the titans. google, microsoft. >> google's a verb. can you backtrack on this? i don't know. stuart: okay. take a look at apple, please. we've got a few separate headlines on them. stock is down to 172 this morning. what's the headlines? >> so i didn't know anything about this 2015 apple watch that was head of solid gold. it ran anywhere from $10-17,000. all the celebrities were wearing it. i don't even have, like, a cheap apple watch. having said that, heir basically saying they're not going to support it anymore with software update, and they're not going to do repairs to it. so if you bought this, you, you know, out of luck. but if you're beyonce and have this watch, you probably don't care. la. [laughter] they're also launching a tv series on apple tv plus about the argentinean soccer star,
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lionel messi. apparently, he is a big deal. this is going to do some behind the scenes of his life as he's leading his team to a leagues cup title. i didn't know who travis kelce was either, but i do know, taylor -- i do now, taylor swift. thank you. [laughter] stuart: meta, now, i believe that they're going to charge facebook and instagram users to go ad-free. >> yeah. so they're piloting this, it's $4, and they're piloting it $14. piloting in europe because europe has interesting laws. to get around it, they're going to say to people if you don't want to see the ads, pay us $14. because remember are, they're hoping you will buy thing, they get revenue from that. if you don't want to see them, you've got to give us something else, and it's going to be $14. i'm like you, i don't like to pay for things. hoe me the ads. stuart: we got used to the
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internet being free. >> and i want to keep it that way. stuart: eli lilly, a cancer treatment comet, what is it? >> absolutely, it's 1250 per share, and what's significant is people are looking at biotech in a different way. it was all focused on the a pandemic, it was all focused on vaccines and shots and things that would get us through, but now we're coming back to the diseases that are plaguing america. you know me, or i'm a cancer survivor is, so i'm happy to see the investment in this. we need to cure cancer. stuart: all right. airbnb, they got a downgrade. >> it was from, where are my notes here, key bank capital markets, and we were talking about this in the break, people are running out of money to spend, is they're not going to be traveling as much, not saying in -- staying in airbnbs as much. rules and things are changing. stuart: and they're down $5
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which is 3.7%. >> yeah. stuart: somebody's got to be bullish on war by peaker, the spectacle people -- >> ever core isi, they upgraded the stock. listen, as we get get into the slowdown, you're going to need -- see staples do well. you're going to find money for that in your budget, and you're going to see stocks like this do well. warby parker has a fresh take on glasses, they're really cool, and the company is working on streamlining the margins, making the business model better, so a big bump there, now 8%. stuart: all right, jackie. check the big board, we're six -- no, five minutes into the trading session, we're down 138 points. the level there, 33,000. the dow winners, there are some. boeing is a winner. it's up 1%. the other winners are not up that much, however. intel, a gain of .8. nike's back on that list. s&p 500 winners, hp at the top,
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progressive -- none of the big with names. boeing's on that list as well at 190. the nasdaq composite winners, old dominion, the freight line are. intel. again, no really big names. intel, of course, but it's at $35 a share. i want to check the 10-year treasury because this seems to be moving the stock market this morning. again, i should say. the yield at 4.72%. it was 4.74 earlier, that set off the selling on wall street. the price of gold hasn't done much except drop well below $1900 an hundreds, 1840 right now. bitcoin holding at $27,500. not much movement there. oil, gotta watch this, it's coming down. i tell a lie -- it's going up. [laughter] $89 a barrel. nat gas, i don't really follow this very much, i just, you know, not much $2.91. the average ice for a gallon of gas, down -- price for a gallon of gas, down. california, it's still over $6,
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6.02 in the golden state. look at this one. homes, it's a statistic, listen to it. homes in 99% of the counties in america are unaffordable to the average home buyer. bottom line here, middle america priced out. scott shellady on that. an op-ed e in the l.a. times questions whether men should pay on dates as reparations for the gender wage gap. guaranteed we've got a lot to say about that one. donald trump is back in court. larry kudlow says a crazy judge and a socialist attorney general are trying to take trump's business. strong stuff. larry's here next. ♪ ♪
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a downside is move for the dow to the tune of 140 points, that is damage only down 76. today is day two of donald trump's civil trial in new york city. trump blasted both the judge and the new york attorney general, letitia james, yesterday. nate foy is with us. is trump attending the trial again today? >> reporter: stuart, he actually just got to the courthouse after spending a second straight night at trump tower. all the key players arriving at the courthouse. new york attorney general letitia james as well. and as we are set to begin day two of this $250 million civil fraud trial, a key focus today will be are on the statute of limitations because at the end of yesterday 's proceedings, the judge warned the attorney general's office that a lot of the transactions presented as evidence happened in 2011 and that they will these to tie those transactions to more recent crimes that happened after 2014 in order to make them relevant. that's something former president trump talked about as
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he left the courthouse last night. listen to this. >> the statute of limitations is a very real thing in this country. and that would be about 80% of this case would be over. we very much appreciate the judge's decision today or his statement today on the statute of limitations which is a very big thing. it's a limit time period. limited time period. and we did nothing wrong. >> reporter: so, stuart, attorney general james disagrees with former president trump. she put out a video on x last night saying that she fundamentally disagrees with his interpretation of the statute of limitations in this case, and the state did promise to provide the relevance of those older transactions throughout today's proceedingsings. but james filed this lawsuit last year against not only former president trump, but his family, his adult sons as well as the trump organization itself. and eric trump told hannity last night that he believes his family is being politically targeted. listen to this.
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>> i want to take away all of his business licenses because we don't like the man. we try and embarrass him during a presidential year. it's election interference. it's disgusting. >> reporter: now take a look at this, stuart. and wow just saw it during that sound bite as well. ing video from inside the courtroom shows president trump looking very serious and the judge smiling and shrugging. this is a no jury trial, so the judge has sole discretion in deciding trump's punishment. trump's team put out a statement overnight saying they never had an option. to choose a jury trial here. and back out here live, stuart, this trial, again, today is day two. it's expected to last through much of december. former president trump spoke four separate times during yesterday's proceedings. we'll see what, if anything, he has to say during day two. i suspect he will end up saying something, stuart. stuart: nate foy, thanks a lot.
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to -- now, let's bring in larry kudlow. is trump getting a fair shake in new york city? >> no, clearly not. i mean, you've got a socialist state attorney general who actually ran against trump. that was her whole campaign, which i guess in new york is enough to have a victory. and then you've got a judge -- i don't understand the judge. he's either crazy or he's a left-wing judge, but here's the problem. here's the biggest problem. you talk to any real estate person and they will tell you, with respect, to the value of marr rah lag go which is one of -- mar rah mar-a-lago which is one of the key point es to this whole shenanigans in court. the tax assessment by the county is far, far different than a market assessment of value. in other words, it's county assess sor's value versus the market value.
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and, by the way, the thy sun writing terrific -- the new york sun writing terrific articles about that, talking to real estate people down in south florida, actually talking to the county assessor's office. they say the same hinge, that the thurm of $18 million value for mar-a-lago is not meant for financing value or real estate market value, it's simply the way they go about assessing tax value or tax liabilities. if so this judge has to know that. if he doesn't know that, he should know that. and if he should mow that, all he has to do is make phone calls and dismiss the entire case. there's no there there. and, you know, violations of the 14th amendment where you take away life, liberty and property, those should be very hard to to come by in the u.s. system. some local judge should not have the authority to blow up your business. because here too, like in so many of these cases with trump or, stu, it could happen to you, it could happen to me, it could
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happen to anybody. and people should think about that. stuart: i need to change the subject and talk about matt gaetz trying to oust speaker mccarthy. what do you think of that? >> my original, my initial reaction is it won't succeed, but i don't know yet. there's a lot of perm mutations and combinations here, stu. there's a lot of insider stuff that we don't know about -- stuart: there's no way for a win for republicans. there's no win for republicans here. i just don't see it. >> well, look, i agree with that. i mean, i totally agree with that. i think personally kevin mccarthy has done a fine job -- stuart: yep. >> he's only got a 4-vote majority, it's very difficult. i think he's doing the best he can to get the spending cuts that he forced the white house into with and to put regular budget order so you'll have 12 appropriations bills. i don't agree with mr. gaetz at all. ing i don't think inside the republican conference there's
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much support for mr. gaetz. there might be a couple of people. most people saying this will not succeed. but, you know, this is very difficult because you're talking about deep inside the republican conference. so we'll have to see how it plays out. i think, again, i want to say mccarthy has done a very, very good job getting a conservative agenda including, stu, not just the budget stuff, but closing the border is very important. and also raising questions about ukraine funding. if there's any increase in ukraine funding, it should be tied to diplomatic initiatives to try to put an end to this war. thus far the biden white house apparently has done nothing on the diplomatic front. they're always a day late and a dollar short, this crowd, and it getses us into more and more trouble. stuart: larry kudlow, strong the opinions, and i agree with them all. thanks so much for joining us.
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stuart: sam bankman-fried's trial begins today. prosecutors argue he orchestrated one of the biggest corporate frauds in history. kelly o'grady's at the courthouse. what can we expect from the trial today? >> reporter: well, stuart, actually the lawyers were just walking in. if i turn around, looks like they're just going through the doors right now, and today's going to be all about jury selection. and this is a really important part of the process because this isn't going to come down to whether he did or didn't commit fraud, it's going to come down to whether those 12 jurors
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believe that he did and finding a jury that isn't biased will be tough given all the media coverage a on this case. we remember sbf was the face of the crypto industry just 11 months ago. he was the crypto king. there were super bowl commercials for ftx, now he's being accused of stealing billions in customer funds there are his -- for his personal use and to cover losses atal immediate georgia -- alameda research are. $7.3 billion of that $8.7 billion has been recovered. it is unclear though if we will ever see that remaining $1.4. they are attempting to recoup it with asset sales and lawsuits. today's trial though is not about the complicated crypto world. it's good, old fashion fraud. sam's charged with 7 counts of paid and conspiracy to commit. if he's convicted of everything, he could face up to 110 years in prison. now, the prosecution is expected to hang their case on a handful of star witnesses including his
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ex-girlfriend who also happened to be the ceo of alameda, caroline ellison. the defense is hinting at what's called an advice of counsel defense. that means sbf doesn't know his actions were illegal, and he was following the guidance from this-house -- in-house counsel. this is called one of the biggest financial frauds in history, so we are going to be bringing it to to you minute by minute. and if you're a crypto nerd like me, tune in to my podcast, the trial of bankman-fried. stuart: kelly, thank you very much, indeed. jackie deangelis with me. i'm surprised that the ftx collapse didn't kill crypto. >> at first glance when the news broke, i thought that it would, until we started to learn more about it. this was garden variety stealing. 9 out wasn't like he made risky investments -- it wasn't like he made risky investments or did something he necessarily shouldn't have in that vein. he took customer funds and spent them. he bought people off.
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he bought lavish properties, and his staff enjoyed the benefits of it as well. people still see value in crypto as an asset moving forward and just kind of realize this was a fiduciary responsibility here that was not upheld, and they picked a bad, you know, company to work with. that's really what i think they see. stuart: crypto is not dead. >> right. stuart: jackie, thank you for being with me. >> thank you for having me. stuart: see you at 1:00 on "the big money show." we've still got the dow off, not as badly as it was, and the nasdaq down a mere 30 points. how about that? still ahead, jason chaffetz will join us. i want to know how challenging speaker mccarthy will give republicans any kind of win. dave portnoy blasting the nfl over taylor swift coverage. we always like to get taylor swift in the show. brian kilmeade, can trump get a fair trial in new york city? and saleswomenmy failla on whether -- jimmy failla on whether men should pay on dates as reparations for the gender
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