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and reports that few in congress back nancy employees city, and she's outraged the the acting speaker, mchenry, bootedded her out of her special office. and the impeachment inquiry expands if. we've got how. and storm clouds are gathering over bidenomics. we've got why. and trump says his new york fraud trial is unconstitutional. plus, why "the washington post" says the punishment is over the top. and the chief of opec warns, yes, oil and gas will go up. and and it's not just about production cuts. plus, evidence mounts virginia governor glenn youngkin eyeing a 2024 run? also outraged chicago voters slam biden's border crisis. we've got the sound. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: well, we're delighted

to have on the show montana representative matt rosendale. congressman, it's good to see you. let's go right to it. you were one of the eight republicans who voted to oust kevin mccarthy as speaker. so what do you say to the criticism that this is a clown show, the media saying you guys are anarchists, and republicans are in disarray? what do you say to all of that? >> nonsense. i take no pleasure in removing kevin mccarthy from speaker, but i think it's it's very telling after we did remove him yesterday afternoon, liz, my gosh, before midnight we had five other members of congress put their hand up and say, hey, you know, i'm interested in being the next speaker. we went through in this process back in january. the problem is that no one could see think momentum building -- any momentum building to dislocate kevin from being the speaker. and so the balance of the potential speakers laid quiet because, quite frankly, they were afraid of relate arely abuse. they were afraid -- retribution. they were afraid of what might

happen to them should they dare to challenge kevin mccarthy. so what we've seen over last nine months is a very strong conservative agenda gets passed except for anything that address the fiscal situation that we are, that we are dealing with. elizabeth: okay, so -- >> and that point, and at that point -- yeah, it's when we saw kevin deviate from the promises that he made to the conference that go directly to the democrats to get the votes he needed to pay us a fiscally irresponsible agenda whether it's the debt ceiling or this continuing resolution. elizabeth: you want single spending bills, you know, not -- >> the law calls for it. elizabeth: yeah, understood. if -- so the conservative agenda, close the border, stop inflationary spending, give a diplomat you can solution to end the war in ukraine, bring back u.s. energy security. you say this is about protecting

the full faith and credit of the u.s. dollar. this inflationary debt spending is spiraling out of control, so who's the replacement? who do you support? who do you want? >> i tell you, i'm really excited that so many people -- elizabeth: who do you want? >> oh, i, i will tell you what i want, okay? what i want is somebody who's going to be trustworthy, which kevin mccarthy is not. what i want is a leader that's going to give us a vision and incite the -- elizabeth: okay, let me put it to you this way, do you like the names thousand up? we see kevin herd also in the mix. do you think they'll be better with speakers? >> i like everybody that serves in congress. i don't take any of this personally. again, i'm looking for somebody who's going to be trustworthy, someone who's going to give us a vision and someone who's going to incite the enthusiasm within the conference to pursue that vision. elizabeth: okay, let's stay on this, acting speaker patrick mchenry ordered former speaker

nancy pelosi to vacate her special capitol hill office saying he'll change the locks if she doesn't leave. ten think hoyer i victimmed too. these -- evicted too. she's blasting the move. what do you say to this? >> i think that this is a big problem that we have in congress that these people get treated with such power and privilege. it's wrong, and i am glad that representative mchenry ousted hem from the capitol. if steny hoyer and nancy pelosi are serving as representatives just like i am, and they should not have any special privileges or offices. elizabeth: absent from the capitol offices. from their special offices. congressman, let's take a look at what happened yesterday. watch this. >> follow your heart but take your brain with you. the american people expect us to govern. >> oh, boo all you want who have

hollowed out this town and have borrowed against the future of our future generation. >> we do know this, on saturday we didn't take the senate's bill. they tried to send over and shove it down our throat it is, but when the senate tried to send us that bill, he said no to it. i think we should keep him as speaker. >> accordingly, pursuant to the clause 12a of rule 1, the chair declares the house in recess subject to the call of the chair. >> i would also argue that, you know, some of our brothers and sisters particularly in the, you know, maga catch, i think, particularly enjoy a circular flying squad. you want to come at me and call me a rino, you can kiss my [bleep] >> my conversations with the former president leave me with great confidence that i'm doing the right thing. elizabeth: was trump a factor in ousting mccarthy? >> oh, i don't think so. i think, honestly, that the conference saw kevin mccarthy

out, negotiate outside of the conference and allowed the democrats to dictate what the financial policy was going to be. that's why we saw them pay us the debt ceiling with more democrat votes, that's why we saw them pass the continuing resolution with many more democrat votes than there were republicans. and i think finally, liz, when we heard that kevin mccarthy had negotiated a deal with president biden to provide additional funding to ukraine in exchange for if border security, that's where folks just said enough is enough. elizabeth: got it. congressman rosendale, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, liz. elizabeth: look who's back with us now, senior legal correspondent at the federalist, margot cleveland. it's always a pleasure the you on. you're so smart. margot, this story, jim jordan, james comer, ways and means chair jason smith released a memo saying the scope of the impeachment inquiry will span the time of joe biden's vice

presidency. that's, it's also going to the include time out of office. what do you make of this? >> i think it's a great announcement, it's a good development. we know that there was a lot going on while he was vice president, and we have evidence that there was his knowledge, participation and possibly even a change in policy while he was vice president. elizabeth: you know, there's also this, they say the constitution covers offenses committed either in office or out of office. they say the constitution says nothing at all about the timing of impeachable acts, that the constitution is silent about that, that it does do not limit impeachable offenses to those who were in office or chitted while serving in the -- committed while serving in the current office. we've been reading up on this, it is silent on this. what do you say? okay, so we're going to -- we

have technical difficulties with margot cleveland's mic. the other story too that's coming in right now is hunter biden did please not guilty to -- we've got margot, so what do you think of that prior comment i was making about the constitution being silent on whether or not he has to be committing crimes and misdemeanors while president? >> i think that the constitutional scholars are going to duke this out but, frankly, it doesn't matter. i think if this evidence comes out, what you're going to see see is him resigning, the democrats forcing him out. so i think it's a pun theoretical debate -- fun theoretical debate, but i don't think it's going to matter at the end. elizabeth: hunter biden pleading not guilty to federal gun charge, we knew that was coming. house ways and means releasing documents that federal investigators at the justice department explored charging hunter biden for sex trafficking plans. that's according to irs

whistleblower documents. this is, you know, the so-called violation of the mann act. so doj investigators were going to the look into this. what do you make of this? there's an e-mail inside doj on this subject. what do you think? >> i think this is more evidence that they overlooked, they buried, they covered-up so many claims and criminal investigations. thousand we have the mann's act, we have the fara violation, we have money laundering, we have felony tax charges. all of those things, we have the whistleblowers coming out showing that the evidence was not followed. and this is the second half of the scandal here. it's not merely what hunter did, what joe biden did, it's what our doj and fbi did and did not do. if. elizabeth: yeah, this is the same mann act allegation that got eliot spitzer of new york in trouble. i mean, the justice department

tech division, prosecutor jack hover began outline -- morgan outlined nine instances where hunter biden appeared to be communicating with prostitutes and coordinating travel across state lines. marjorie taylor greene brought this up a few weeks ago. where does this go? >> well, hopefully the impeachment inquiry's to going to come out and show that the if fbi and the doj buried this. and at some point we're going to need the democrats and the media to do their jobs and say this was inappropriate and must stop. elizabeth: got it. margot cleveland, we'll have you back on. it's good to see you, so mart. d so smart. still ahead, marc lotter, former top trump economic adviser, steve moore. plus, americans for tax e form president grover norquist. we've got a hot show for you tonight. a top donor for democrats in court today.

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bankruptcy process. the defense tried to suggest, well, he should have known that investing in crypto was risky, but he argued he never would have done so if he knew his money was going to be used for other things. the second witness was sbf's college roommate who he hired as a code or to build that code around alameda and ftx. he revealed that he's only testifying under an immunity deal because worried the code he wrote was used for crime. all this is going to feed into the prosecution's broader picture. they said during opening statements his wealth, power and influence was, quote, built on lies. and one major aspect of their case will be how sbf allegedly used customer funds to garner political influence. during the midterms, he donated over $40 million to democrats and alleged hi used his colleague as a strawman to further donate money to democrats. ryan solomon, also a colleague, funneled money in his name to republicans, but i'll highlight

only george soros gave more to democrats during the midterms than sbf, is so a big democrat donor there. the defense's opening statement, they're really going to try to paint sbf as this man who got over his skis in the crypto industry which is really confusing. i was talking to ira sorkin, bernie madoff's defense attorney, he said, listen, fraud is fraud whether it's crypto or the car dealership, and that's what the prosecution will try to are the prosecute. elizabeth: that's a great line. kelly to gradely, thank you so much -- kelly o'grady. we welcome back to the show grover norquist. grover, we see storm clouds gathering over bidenomicss. that adp job growth number, just 89,000, that's about half the 160,000 expected. we're looking at three straight months in a row of slowing growth and wages not keeping up with inflation. what do you say, grover? >> well, it's not good. what we're looking at is the economy is facing all of these new regulations on banking, on

energy, just a flood of regular rah la story burdens being -- regular rah la story burden withs being put on top of things, plus the threat that the republican tax cuts, parts of it, won't be extended, those parts that make for faster depreciation, for expensing. that's going to start to disappear. so some of the lower taxes that republicans passed begin to dise appear. the regulatory burden is growing and we really don't know the numbers attached to that. and thousand you have these strikes of people -- now you have these strikes of people going on which is price and wage controls set up by union bosses supported by the president in an, a very unusual to -- for the president to get in and support a strike which means people not working for how long. that reduces gdp. there's a whole collection of very bad economic news coming together. elizabeth: the biggest health worker strike in u.s. history,

75,000 and more health care workers walking out of kaiser permanente in five states on top of the uaw strike. the polls show voters don't believe anything biden is saying, they don't buy his bidenomic, most say they're worse off. seven out of the ten say the u.s. is on the wrong track. they don't believe he's made america more respected or more safe. they don't think he's united the country or saved democracy. and he's basically trying to campaign on saying, you know, democracy is at stake with the maga crowd and with trump. but you look at what's going on under his, you know, stewardship, what do you think? >> well, the whole issue of democracy and a free society being endangered, here you have the biden administration leaning on big tech to censor conservatives. and some conservatives get mad at the tech companies, i'm furious at the biden administration for threatening the tech companies. what do you expect companies to do when they're threatened by

the federal government? at some point they cave. and we've seen entirely too much of that. some very serious questions. they've been telling high-tech don't cover conservative issues, don't allow conservatives to talk on your platforms. that's the political challenge. the economic challenge is everything biden has done increases the cost of energy, increases the cost of living. and the inflation reduces the value of your, of your, the dollars in your pocket. elizabeth: yeah, let's listen to senator john kennedy on this. watch senator kennedy. >> i say this with no joy whatsoever, inflation in america today is manmade. and that man's name is president joe biden. in my state where the mean household income is $55,000, the average american family is

paying $800 a month more, a month. not a year, a month more. to live in this wonderful country. elizabeth: i mean, bidenomics is so bad, politico and axios reporting democrats are telling the president don't campaign on it. but he's doubling down. let me back with up. we mow that the 10-year and 30-year yields have been rocketing higher. they scaled back a little bit today. the 10-year is at around 4.7. but still mortgage rates are at 7.9. that's the highest in 23 years, grover. i mean, the average rate on a tp tripled since december 2020, and there's fears that china is unloading and selling off their u.s. treasuries. they're still holding at about 1.8 trillion this u.s. treasuries. but really in about the last 18 months is el -- the selling has increased. they have about 50% of their reserves in u.s. dollar bonds.

what do you think of china here? >> well, it certainly makes the united states weaker in this position, and it allows china to fiddle with it. the cost of mortgages going up makes it heads likely people will buy a first house or move to a more expensive house. that has repercussions all the way down the line for people who work. this is not good news. and if they raise the interest rate on treasury bills and you can put the money there, you take it out of the stock market. that's taking investment out of the economy and putting it into investing in government debt. elizabeth: got it. grover norquist, you're terrific. >> why? elizabeth: yeah, we hear you. did you want to finish? did you have something more to say? no, t just all bad news. have a nice day. [laughter] elizabeth: okay, have a nice evening, grover. have you on again soon. these are the facts, our dear viewers. okay, gas prices. people many california are looking at $7 a gallon.

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liz. is so day three of this trial just wrapped up about an hour ago at this point. former president trump didn't stick around for the entire thing. he left after the morning session when they broke for lunch. he flew back to mar-a-lago, actually just got back to his florida residence. but before leaving he a had more choice words for new york attorney general letitia james, who other than posting some videos on x, hasn't responded to the former president's insults until that lunch break today. take a listen to what she said. >> the donald trump show is over. this is nothing more than a political stunt. a fund raising stunt. so now we can continue to go forward with our trial, and we are confident that justice will be served. >> reporter: liz, before leaving today trump called attorney general james a, quote, political animal, and he called our entire justice system corrupt. and he believes he wouldn't be dealing with any of these legal problems if he weren't running

for president. here he is. >> my financial documents are are -- much less than my actual value. this is election interference. they made up a fake case. they're fraudulent people. and the judge already knows what he's going to do. he's a democrat judge. in all fairness to -- [audio difficulty] >> reporter: today trump's legal team filed an official appeal of the judge's pretrial ruling that trump is liable for fraud, so we will see exactly what comes of that. but, of course, it is at the center of this trial, liz, that's expected to last through much of december. we'll send it back to you. elizabeth: nate foy, you're terrific. so smart. let's welcome to the show former federal prosecutor fred discity. thanks for joining us. whether you like trump or hate him, you know, calling anybody an animal is, quote -- is uncouth and uncivil. but let's get to the nuts and bolt withs of this, fred. we want to stick to the law.

trump is saying the new york state fraud case against him is unconstitutional. it likely is, he's saying, because it was brought with under a new york state executive law that gives the state's attorney general these sweeping powers to prosecute fraud. it does not require a victim, no requirement to prove that trump's actions harmed anyone, no requirement to prove that the fraud was intentional. are we wrong here, is that what the law says? >> well, you're not wrong about what the law says. you know, the question is whether or not that's constitutional, liz. when i was a federal prosecutor and to this day i believe it's still the law, you can prosecute someone for bank fraud. if somebody makes a false or misleading statement about collateral for a loan, irrespective of whether or not they pay the entire loan back, you can still charge with bank fraud or wire fraud. so it's been the law in this country that if you engage in fraud, you know,er respect respective of whether there's been a technical victim, the

case may still go forward. i -- there's a lot of other problems. i mean, this statute's been around since the 1950s, you know, and it's a pretty broad statute. and it provides the state with a lot of kind of -- elizabeth: but is it in any way unconstitutional? could it go to the supreme court, this case? i mean, we know he's likely going to appeal, but, you know, "the washington post" op-ed page says based on this law that this quarter or billion in fines is unnecessary, unduly punitive, disproportionate to the offenses charged. i mean, it could force trump to disgorge his properties like trump tower, his golf courses, a suburban -- he's calling this a corporate death penalty. what do you think? >> well, they're not far off with that. i mean, basically what the state's looking for, pratt and apart from the $250 million, they're looking to divest him of any assets which they claim have been kind of wrongfully valued either high or low, and they're

also looking to seek to preclude both trump and his family members from ever serving as an officer or director on any board of any company that's licensed to do business in new york or is a new york-based company. i mean, it's incredibly pine punitive -- punitive. and at this point, because the judge has already ruled on liability, the only issue now, between now and december, is what trump's going to get first, a blindfold or a cigarette. so how bad is he going to get punished by this. and given that no one's lost a dime, it begs the question, as to what end? why are they doing this? what's going on here? elizabeth: got it. well, you know, ruth marcus from the washington post says i worry this would not have been meted out to a different defendant. it's a heck of a fight. fred, you're terrific. so smart. >> well, i don't know about that. i don't know about that, but i appreciate that. i mean, i couldn't agree with you more. i'm hard pressed in years and years of a federal prosecutor and civil litigation of thinking of any type of case that i have

ever seen like this. and then when you add in, what, 91 counts of criminal charges against this guy, it's, again, what's going on here? i mean, why -- what's happening here? i can't believe that one person could be this guilty of this many things. elizabeth: got it. fred, you'll come back. it's good to see you. >> thanks for having me. elizabeth: is virginia governor glenn youngkin, is he ramping up to enter the 2024 race? also, you know, $100, $150 a tank for gasoline? that's what california drivers are looking at. they're talking $7 a gallon gas there. how biden's policies are increasing prices at the pump, what the chief of opec is now saying. we also have leading energy analyst phil flynn and former economic adviser to former president trump steve moore. they're going to join us on "the evening edit" next. ♪

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production -- decided to extend their production cuts until the end of the year and real concerns about what you mentioned, the strategic petroleum reserve. there's a report that shows supplies in the strategy strategic petroleum are reserve are at lowest level in history. the reports showed that right now in the spr we only have 17 days of oil for the united states in case of an emergency: are that's almost half the the 33 million barrels a day that we normally have. now, this comes as opec and russia are doubling down on production cuts, and that's starting to show some real pain on the u.s. consumers. we saw a report today that gasoline demand plummeted by 600,000 barrels a day directly as a result of those production or cuts, rising gasoline prices and rising interest rates. back to you. elizabeth: phil flynn, gosh, what a story. we'll stay on it. let's bring in former economic adviser to former president trump steve moore. steve, you know, when you heard that report -- it's good to have you on again, steve.

when you heard that, what did you think? now the head of opec warns oil could go to $100 a barrel due to a lack of investment in the oil industry worldwide. they're talking they need at least 12 trillion needed between now and over the next 20 years. what do you think? >> well, what's so frustrating to me having worked with trump is, you know, we had a pro-american energy policy. western be producing 2 or 3 -- we should be producing 2 or 3 million more barrels a day. we wouldn't even be talking about opec right now if america had simply retained its global commanding height as the number one oil and gas producer in the world. now we're in a situation where we're almost hostage to iran, saudi arabia, russia, these other countries. so it's a self-inflicted wound. i do think you're looking at -- by the way, if the oil price does reach $100 a barrel, i hate to tell folks this, but that means inflation of everything is going to go way up. you're talking about, you know, 5 and 6% inflation. elizabeth: oil prices feed

through 6,000 products that u.s. consumers use coast to coast, household goods. >> exactly. elizabeth:s let's listen to governor ron desantis. he says biden's energy policy is making russia more powerful. watch this. >> we can stop empowering russia through dysfunctional energy policy. you can have the green new deal -- i don't want that, i think it's bad, but just understand when you go many biden's direction, you are helping russia, you're helping iran, you're helping venezuela, and you're also helping china. elizabeth: helping russia. what do you say? i mean, john mccain once said that russia's just a big gas station. [laughter] that's kind of a putdown, but what do you say to in? quell, i've been saying this for two years now, who are the biggest winners from biden's war on american oil and gas? well, first would be the saudi oil chics and the opec countries and the other big winner, of course, is russia. sheikhs. i would take it a step further from my friend ron desantis,

one of the great governors of americaings has just said. i don't think putin would have had the funding to go into ukraine in the first place if we had simply produced more and more oil and gas because, as you just said, you know, the number one source of revenue for the russian government is those oil, petrol dollars. without them, they don't have any money at all to fund that a military machine. elizabeth: you know, the u.s., we could be pumping 14 million, 15 million barrels a day. >> yes. elizabeth: the biden white house put an x-ray blanket on the u.s. oil and energy sector. you know, steve, this story, the financial times reporting europe is in a nuclear renaissance. politico reporting europe is saying no to electric cars. they're talking italy, or germany, czech republic. they want to keep their gas cars. they're saying the proposed e.u. ban on gas cars is, quote, job-destroying madness, and and they're calling, you know, gas car opponents people who don't want gas cars, quote, the gravediggers of the automotive

industry in europe. even the u.k. prime minister, rishi sunak, is keeping gas cars until 2035. so when you look at what europe is doing and what we're doing, it's insanity. >> yeah. you know, we refuse to look at what's happened to europe in terms -- they were about 5 or 10 years ahead of us on this green energy love affair, and it didn't work. it didn't work, liz. germany damn near deindustrial the eyesed that country, and it happened in france and italy and spain. so those countries are sprinting away if green energy because it failed, and we're following right in their footsteps into that same pit. elizabeth: it's really something. steve moore, we appreciate you. we'll have you back on again soon. so smart. okay, this hot story coming up, chicago voters and residents explode at a city community meeting over the new plan for illegal immigrants saying you're putting us down at the bottom rung. you work for us. shut the border, stop the border

collapse. wait until you see this sound. plus, former special assistant to president trump, he's marc lotter, political donations pouring in to virginia governor youngkin, his superpac. more billionaires back youngkin. is youngkin going to run for the white house? let's first check in with dagen and charlie hurt if for -- in for sean and "the bottom line. ". dagen: i just laugh out loud when you said that. thank you, liz. coming up, who's going to be the next speaker, and when will all of these jack legs get back to work? we talk to congresswoman nicole malliotakis. we also have david asman on how this president trump trial here in new york city is bad for business for everybody. charlie: and then we have jimmy failla and alec lace to put it all in perspective for us and hopefully make us laugh a little.i dagen: yeah.li top of the hour. ♪ about three or four years ago, i wasn't feeling as if i was as sharp as i used to be.

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and he's popular in the commonwealth of virginia. but we're 100 and some days out from the voting beginning in iowa. donald trump has a 40 or 32-point lead in iowa, and i don't think there is enough time to organize, to go heat the voters that you have -- meet the voters that you have to do to actually make a difference in iowa. and i think if he does this, he runs the risk of basically becoming ron desantis 2.0. elizabeth: well, i mean -- let me back up. billionaire donors are helping him shatter records, thomas petter my saying he appears to be leaving the door open to a potential 2024 bid. i mean, youngkin is a rising tar. you've talk about this, marc, he's got this unifying kind of bipartisan charm. he does get the conservative job

done, empowering parents against toxic schools, soft on crime policies leading to rising murder rates. he doesn't like the outsourcing virginia's energy future to, quote, radical bureaucrats in california. so he checks all those boxes, marc. >> oh, no, he's right on all of the policy. the problem is he's late to the game, you know? people have been on the ground for more than a year campaigning in iowa, and if you're not named donald trump, you have to be on the ground doing that because people really outside of the d.c. beltway and the state of virginia don't know who governor youngkin is. so you have to introduce yourself. you have to go there 30, 40, 50 times, visit all the counties, eat the tenderloins and, you know, at the state fair. all of those things are kind of requirements to get in the door. he doesn't have enough time to get that cone. that done. we tried this before in '08 when a bunch of folks were trying to recruit fred thompson to the run, get into the game late, and it flamed out quickly.

money's also not the only thing. ask ron desantis. he had $100 million in donations, and his failure to launch. jeb bush was the same way. takes more than money. takes organization, takes time on the ground, and the clock is ticking. i think it's too late. health elizabeth well, he's got billionaires behind him. when knows, marc? it's going to be exciting to see. you're terrific, marc. love having you on. >> thank you for having me. elizabeth: chicago residents pushing back. voters are angry in thatty, literally shouting down -- in that city, literally shouting down a new plan for illegal immigrants. they're effectively saying shut the border, stop the border collapse. garrett tenney got the sound of fox news. we're going to have it for you next on "the evening edit." >> -- gotta say no because that's the simple solution, is, no! turn the buses around. ♪ ♪ or sharp, stabbing pains. ♪

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secure chicago is at the breaking., biden's border collapse is slumping city services, schools and hospitals yelling you work for us. what was your reaction when you heard that sound? >> every state is truly a border state now. illinois welcomed to the party. our borders hemorrhaging people, the state of texas is seeing every day or two what the boy received over the past year. can you imagine what it's like to be on the border right now? the city of el paso seeing three or 4000 people every day and now the terrace cartel embers, 18000 chinese crossed our border illegally the past year. these are military aged men, spies are entering our country and losing 300 americans everyday from an internal poisoning. human trafficking is exploding so welcome, illinois. >> you introduced a resolution

to declare formal invasion of the border, can you tell us about that? >> our constitution allows congress would declare and invasion that empowers states invaded so this would empower governor abbott to do what he needs to. right now the white house is fighting against governor ab abbott, they put up buoys across the rio grande river. i've been down there several times and i've seen them to the white house is trying to make governor abbott remove those so it empowers governors to defend their land, it's an invasion, human trafficking tragedy but in the invasion as well. >> americans support legal immigration, it's unfair to people who did it legally. we tracked 1042 terrorists on the watchlist caught at all ports of entries in the border and now jv, chicago mayor bill clinton, governor hochul saying yes the border is in a state of collapse, the system is broken. fix it. when you heard immigrants

stepping in, what did you think? >> i think i'm hearing whispers on capitol hill from my democrat colleagues as well that they are acknowledging a significant problem. i've been doing telephone town halls and the open border is becoming the number one concern for kansans. mainly due to fentanyl poisoning people don't feel safe so i think it is across the nation, 8 million people have crossed the border illegally under this president and we are seeing the explosion of human trafficking, fentanyl poisoning, the cartel is alive and well across the entire country now. the chinese are setting up shop next to our military bases invading our schools, our technology institute so it's time to wake up, america is time for joe biden to wake up and help us fix this border. >> what he's doing is failing. now we got reports mexico started buzzing illegal immigrants to the u.s. southern border. your final word? >> mexico never cooperated since donald trump left a optics, they

feel they can take advantage of joe biden. simple policies from the way you can turn it around. back to remain in mexico, we could raise the bar on asylum and stop the catch and release. simple things the white house can do. they come to capitol hill we will force every opportunity we can to secure this border. >> senator, your terrific, we love having you on the show and hope to see you tomorrow night, gop fort o'connor, john and much more for watching "the evening edit", time for the bottom line, send it to dagen and charlie mack. ♪ >> good evening, i am dagen mcdowell. >> i am charlie hurt, and for john