larry: hello, folks, well to "kudlow." i'm larry kudlow. all right, president biden spoke

earlier this afternoon. not once did he mention the word iran, but we're going to get to that in just a second with my great friend and colleague breath with9 baer. first, let's get the latest on the israel-hamas war, what's happening on the ground. fox news' mike tobin is live in tel aviv with the latest. mike, thank you. ing what can you tell us? >> reporter: a couple of takeaways from the president's speech that resonated here in us israel is that the u.s. is increasing force posture in the region and ready to supply israel with everything it needs to defend itself. if shortly after that speech i was randomly approached by a stranger here in tel aviv who said that israel appreciates the u.s. the skirmishes continue. when the sun goes down, the rockets go up, the interceptors go up in the say to meet them. we have video from a town just to the northern end of the gaza strip which has been subject to so much rages in recent days -- violence in recent days. the rockets was preceded by a

warning from the hamas that the rockets were came and still the rockets came, the intercept ors went up after them. 40 no word on casualties. also fresh fighting in ashkelon as a gunman slipped through what was a security perimeter laid down by israeli e forces or possibly left behind. there was a gunman there, he was contacted by the israeli forces in the town. in word if that gunman has been killed. also from the president's speech, the number of americans killed out here is 14. the number of them missing, presumed to be kidnapped, cannot be pinned down at this point, but we spoke with families of four people who are missing and people presumed to be kidnapped, and they are terrified. >> they were fish in a barrel sitting in this bomb shelter. terrorists came to the door, they were throwing grenades in, shooting machine guns, and we know that hirsh's arm from the

elbow down was severed. >> as grenades were being thrown in, they were tossing them back with out, they were trying to comfort people. >> reporter: the air campaign continues over the gaza strip or into the gaza strip with unprecedented strength and and devastation into this area densely populated with civilians. the area from which a hamas picked fight, the area to the which israel is responding. the edges of the gaza strip is israeli armor, israeli forces ready to begin the ground invasion is. we though tonight that prime minister benjamin netanyahu pet with his security cabinet -- met with his security cabinet in israel's version of the pentagon here in tel aviv. we'll see what comes out of that meeting and if, indeed, that will start the tanks rolling for this anticipated ground to offensive. larry? larry: all right. mike tobin, thank you ever so much from tel aviv, we appreciate if it. all right, folks, at last count the barbarians have killed more than 1,000 israelis, perhaps

3,400 people wounded, 14 americans included in that, maybe more. those numbers are going to keep moving. babies found beheaded, grannies pulled out of bed and murdered, entire families massacred. it's all like some or horror show right out of the middle ages, as bad or worse as thinking isis ever did. and so -- anything isis ever did. and so i must say, tragedy tragically, president biden joe biden addressed the nation tonight, this afternoon, with one of the most disappointing speeches i have ever heard. of course the attack in israel was evil. yes, americans have been killed and taken hostage. yes, the toll on israel is heartbreaking and, yes, the united states will stand with israel and supply them with military assistance. but these promises after the horrific hamas attack are almost cliches at this point. the question is, the real question is, what is joe biden

going to do about this catastrophe in what -- catastrophe? what policy changes will the united states make to combat the iranian-funded, weaponized and planning behind the hamas attack? what joe biden has to do is completely reverse his failed iran policy. stop appeasing and playing footsie and cozying up to r.n.. concern iran. forget about the terrible nuclear deal and recognize the biden administration has been financing iran's war machine. here are some facts. the $6 billion released by south korea may be aimed at humanitarian assistance, but money is fungible. it will provide breathing room for other accounts to promote war and terrorism. the the same can be said for the $10 billion released by iraq. then, incredibly, the u.s.-dominated imf has provided

$6.7 billion to iran. really? what ises that about? -- what is that about? and then the biden relaxation on economic sanctions, most particularly oil sanctions, has added another $30-40 billion of financial assistance to iran to bolster their war chest. the total comes to $50-60 billion. this insanity must be stopped. recall, please, in the tough sanctions imposed by former president donald trump iran oil production was less than a million barrels a day. today it is above 3 million barrelses per day, headed for 4 at oil prices ranging from $80-100 per barrel. maybe a small discount to their biggest purchaser, china. that's no good. and then we don't know how much money iran's making shipping drones the russia. but we do know that the united states has stopped impounding the shipping vessels iran uses

to circumvent sanctions. we have not denied iranian planes overflight rights, we have not closed iranian banks with access to the west, nor have we stopped iranian operations of european businesses. why aren't we treating iranian officials like they are and sinking iranian naval boats that threaten international shipping? and from this i want to give a hat tip to senator mitch mcconnell. his very fine "wall street journal" op-ed piece mentioned all that today. look, if you cut off iran and cripple its economy and stop its oil flows and e7b its financing -- end its financing, then you will truly help israel by dealing a death blow to hamas resources. iran is the hamas supply line. got it? why didn't mr. biden talk about that today? if he pledges undying support for israel, he must

unequivocally stop iran. but that four-letter word, i-r-a-n did not appear in mr. biden's delayed, truncated, miniaturized address. please, contrast biden's iranian appeasement with donald trump's iranian toughness. trump understood the difference between strength and weakness. trump pulled out of the misbeen obama iranian nuke deal. trump took out al-baghdadi and all of isis in syria. trump took out soleimani, the number one bad guy in iran. the arab nations understand strength. do you think that sent a message to iran? of course it did. trump laid down tough economic sanctions, basically stopped their oil production and starved their economy and then came the abraham accords as gulf states negotiated peace deals with israel regarding trade, investment, transportation. in effect, mr. trump was surrounding iran with all these abraham accord peace deals. the entire political dynamic of the region was changed.

during trump's tenure there was no massive hamas-iranian invasion of israel. why can't the bidens learn these lessons? there is a difference between strength and weakness. and that is my riff. enough said. joining me now, my great friend and colleague, bret baier, anchor of "special report." author of "to rescue the constitution," available everywhere today. gotta sell some books. bret baier got me through the predebate, 15-person thing with style -- [laughter] and content as you always do. welcome to the set as always, sir. you know, you can't help israel without slamming iran and changing the policy. that's my take. what you think? >> yeah, i think it's right on, a strong letter to follow, larry, you know? i think you nailed it as far as the criticism. and, you know, they are hung up, the biden administration is, on

the criticism about the $6 billion for the hostage, american hostage exchange. but it's not the $6 billion, you know? they say not a penny, not a dinar has been removed from that accountst it's not about that. it's what about what you just talked about. it's about the relaxing of sanctions to the point of you looked at oil exports just to china, 2020, 6.6 billion. 2021, 23.1 billion. larry: wow. >> 2022, $30 billion. iran exports to china. larry: those are great numbers. i've got to get my paws on those numbers. >> that is what you're talking about. it's not this whole thing about the hostage -- i mean, that's a factor, and iran has to factor i've got $6 billion coming in, i can do something else with something else, but it's really what you're talking about here. and the fact that the president didn't mention iran tells you all all that you need to know. they are defending this iran policy which really funnels money to hamas and hezbollah. larry: i mean, i see it as, you

know, iran is the supply line to hamas. there would have been no major invasion were it not for iran. and i don't with understand -- i don't understand, you talked to kirby this morning about this? we're hearing from jake sullivan. i do not understand how you can be israel's friend and and really help israel as the majority of americans want to help israel, our great ally, the only democracy in the entire region. you can't do that unless you go after iran. i don't mean bomb iran, but economic sanctions, oil sanctions, business sanctions. i mean, i've got to give credit -- mitch mcconnell wrote a very good, tough article today in the "wall street journal." i don't know if you saw it -- >> yeah, i did. larry: a couple paragraphs on what we should be doing to restore sanctions. where are the -- why wouldn't the bidens do that, bret baier? >> yeah, listen, they defended saying the sanctions are still there, but they're not enforcing them. so, you know, you can have them there, but they're not enforcing them. i think it's a big, big issue.

also, you know, i just talked to the saudi crown prince over in saudi arabia. >> >>, and they said they were chose to normalization. i talked to the israeli prime minister, he said they were really close. off camera both men said it's going to get done, and i think the closer they talked about it, the more iran, hamas, hezbollah wanted to screw it up. larry: do you think those talks continue? >> they do. i'm told. larry: saudis won't start shifting and going back to finish. >> they put out a statement that was kind of pro-palestinian at the beginning, kind of, i'm told, you know, how they usually say the pal is sin januaries need to be helped, but now it's evolved into they're really concerned about civilian casualties. and you can't turn your back on the deavenuety of some of these attacks. you talked about it. it's just gruesome, what we're seeing. larry: a wee bit of politics. you really need a new house speaker -- [laughter] to provide the money to help israel. what you think about that story? we have kevin mccarthy's

coming on in just a few moments. >> oh, yeah. larry: what do you think about this story? >> well, i think he's still in the mix. i think he could either be the default choice or be the kingmaker for probably jim jordan. it's -- i think you're going to have a speaker vote that coalesces because of the urgency of the moment over in the middle east. and people see that as a big moment. you could even have problem solved where democrats say i'm going to throw my hat, my vote one way to try to move this thing quicker. because i think everybody realizes that you need to do stuff as a congress in order to have that happen, you have to have a house speaker. larry: and one other question. i want to get to the constitution, i love selling books. [laughter] >> thank you, larry. larry: your books have been great sellers, and you were great on the raid can owe -- radio show this weekend. the southern border is still a gigantic problem. and we can talk about terrorism and so forth and so on, but a lot of that stuff's creeping through the southern border. kevin mccarthy gave a speech

about that, but i wonder what you were thinking. i do not hear the bidens ever talk about the southern border. >> no. and today bill melugin along that border got a document that shows where people are coming from that are coming across that border. thousands and thousands from countries we consider fomenting terrorism, different ones, afghanistan, all throughout the middle east. and they are getting across that border, and the numbers are just going exponentially up. to so the threat there, and the terrorist watch list, the people who have been on the terrorist watch list, has increased in recent months. so that's a major threat. and mccarthy's right to talk about that. larry: yeah, he is. meanwhile, to rescue the constitution: george washington and the fragile american experiment, out today. i read the intro, haven't read the book yet. i will plow through the book because i love history. george with washington was almost -- if it's possible, he was an underrated figure. i know he's the father of the country, but regarding this

constitution, you don't think of george washington. you think of hamilton, madison, some of the others but not necessarily washington with. >> yeah. so these books, this is the fifth presidential book that i've written, and i try to look at a soda straw moment and then focus on that and the narrative form and show how this leader gets to that moment. the soda straw moment is the constitutional convention, and washington is essentially recruited again to be the head of this convention, keep people together. a lo of people don't remember or don't know that after the u.s., the forces win against the british, then the country falls apart. there are a lot of people that say they want to go back to british rule, it would be with easier. the constitutional convention happens, george washington holds people together and then, obviously, becomes the fist president. -- first president. nobody was writing a note in the oval office desk, nobody was passing the torch, he was the torch. and this really fills mt. blanks for people who like history, and

i think it's important to look back. larry: what would we have done without washington? honest wily. >> it wouldn't be a country. larry: you hate to say it, but history sometimes reinvolves around great men. >> that's right. larry: it's an old theory. >> we have a lot to learn from that time, we really do, because we could use a washington right now. larry: i miss the washington era, i've been around a long time -- [laughter] promise me if i do another 15-guest program, you'll -- >> i did there. you did -- i'll be there. you did fantastic. larry: bret baier, pick up his new book, "to rescue the constitution: george washington and the fragile american experiment," on shelves today. one click. thank you, bret, appreciate it ever so much. all right, folks, coming up, the aforementioned kevin mechanic carr third d mccarthy. he gave a blockbuster speech yesterday, i think it's the kind of speech mr. biden should have given today. he joins us next to talk about all of it.

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larry: so president biden's speech today was one of the worst in the history, and it's the exact opposite of what speaker kevin mccarthy's

speech yesterday, which was terrific stuff, here's the aforementioned kevin mccarthy. kevin, welcome, always, on our hoe. you know, in your speech yesterday, you had a lot of stuff. but one of the things you say is that the number one threat to america is not climate change, which is what mr. biden says repeatedly. you say the principal threat is open borders. down south. can you elaborate on that? i just mentioned that with bret baier. i mean, that is really a key point. >> we should learn from history. there's so many things we've learned what happened in ukraine, in afghanistan, leaving americans behind. first, you don't want to leave any american behind mere if -- here, you want to stand shoulder to shoulder with israel. but we should learn from from what happened in israel. you know, you look at this horrific, what we found today, these babies in this kibbutz. i was in that exact kibbutz on february of last year taking a tour with those individuals.

they had two walls there. and what we have is an open border. and if you look in 2019, we had caught zero number of people on the fbi terror watch lust. as of is so far this year, 151 coming from 160 different country, from yemen and others. this this is exactly what they're doing. you could is have a sale inside -- cell inside of america right now. do you think iran -- you talked about this. i was with president trump the night we killed soleimani, and i was there. they have never forgiven or forgotten about that. we've watched what they continue to do. they planned this entire operation, and we have appeasement with this new administration. think of this one part, how successful you all were in the trump administration, okay? if you look at the the foreign currency reserves for iran when you were in charge, when biden first took over, it was $4 billion. it's $70 billion today. is so i didn't just say you freeze that $6 billion, what you really should to do is when biden took over, iran was only

producing 400,000 barrels a day. ed today it's 3 million. this is where the real money is at. the sanctions are already there. they will not enforce them like president trump did. by not enforcing them, they are capturing probably $60 billion. and they are funneling that directly to hamas. you've got a secretary of state who does not directly tell the american public -- say, well, we don't have complete truth about iran. yes, you do. there's no way. iran says they planned it. "wall street journal" has the facts. we all know it. and you watched what happened in the 1930s with this axis of evil. well, that same thing is happening today. iran, lush shah and china -- russia and china. all three countries want to expand their sphere of influence. so what are they going to sit and think? this is a real concern to me. if i followed those few inside congress, the matt gaetzs of the world and shut the government

down, what do we think would be happening to the world right now? if they want to remove me from speaker because i was willing to to pay our troops, think about what we'd to be asking of our troops to do today without being paid. larry: kevin, two things. biden never mentioned iran. i-r-a-n. not in his speech. it was as truncated -- it was just a terrible speech, worst thing i've ever heard. but biden also never once talked about the southern border and the open border. he just doesn't. so you've hit on two key points here in your speech yesterday e and here, you know, in your remarks to us on the show. i don't know how to change this, kevin. i mean, besides beating him, hurt? in the presidency. -- all right? in the presidency. he won't change. >> no, he won't. larry: jimmy carter changed. bill clinton changed many years ago. this guy and his advisers don't want to change despite the fact that their policies are an utter

failure and in disarray. >> he was just in vietnam last month, and he said the thurm one issue -- number one issue, more important than even atomic war or nuclear war he said was climate change. he had shifted our intel agencies to focus on climate. they are laughing at us around the world. look, climate is important but not the number one issue that we have. what we have is we can have sleeper cells in america today based upon what he's done on this border, based upon what we see happening in the world. and iran is funding the terrorist es that are coming across. -- terrorists. his speech was too many days too late, he didn't take any action in his speech and, thirdly, he wouldn't take questions. larry: it's amazing. >> he created this appease if. what did he first do? he backed away from the abraham accords can. he attacked our allies in the middle east, went after saudi arabia. then he ea ea appeased iran which only infuriated people more. then he pulled out of afghanistan after giving putin,

lifting the sanctions off nord stream 2. he was they haveville chamberlain of that moment, and if -- neville chamberlain of that moment, he pushed our allies closer to china helping to develop this new axis of evil and showing appeasement around the world, and this is what we get today? larry: kevin, you're talking a lot of sense. kevin, let me just ask you, in the republican conference meetings if you're nominated to run for speaker again, you accept it? >> look, i've asked those that want to nominate me not to nominate me. let these two running see if they can unite the -- larry: is it a stalemate, kevin? do do you have any intention of supporting anybody? >> i'm going to support somebody. they're going to try to put this together. the one thing we have to learn in the country as well, if we still have 8 people this our conference that is going to partner with all the other democrats, we don't have a majority. finish if 8 people -- erik if

7 -- -- we don't have a conference. and those people are not conservatives. you and i are conservative that want to govern. those are individuals that just want to get clicks and be on camera. that's not governing. larry: you're right. 100% right. i said so during this, shall we say, episode. if we don't have a speaker, we can't appropriate the money -- >> can't do anything. larry: -- to israel or, among other things. they've got to get it done. will they get it done in the next couple days, kevin? can you make a forecast many. >> well, we could get it done on wednesday and be able to move forward, but i think the conference is pretty divided still. this is got to be consequences for actions, there's got to be ability to unite, and this is a real concern that i have. i was able to name patrick mchenry to fill this role right now. he should actually are is are the power to do this. this all was created after 9/11 if something was to depose the speaker. finish and this is what we've been able to do. i think he should be able to have the power to continue the continuity of government. you don't want government to

shut down. and what we really need to be able to do is show the strength with israel. we should be able to resupply the iron dome because they're trying to overwhelm the iron dome. those first rockets are probably dumb rockets trying to wear out the iron dome and come back with reprecision rocks. we should make it very clear -- larry: you won't run, that's the bottom line? >> look, i think the conference has to make those decisions. we've got two people running today, are let them unite this conference. larry: kevin mccarthy, great american. i will continue to refer to you as speaker. that's your title, you earned that very much. thanks for coming back on the show, my friend. we'll talk soon. >> thank you, larry. larry: coming up here on "kudlow," when is joe biden going to stop playing foot city with iran and hold them accountable for this war and a lot of other things? we will ask former japanese ambassador and now u.s. senator bill bill hagerty. plus, we're going to talk about what's happening on the ground in israel with aaron cohen.

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♪ larry: all right, once again, why is joe biden playing footsie with iran for so longsome that's the key to deciding -- understanding this whole disastrous war: senator bill hagerty, former ambassador to japan. senator, you tell me. and today's speech, we talked about it with bret baier, there was -- he didn't mention i-r-a-n. how is that possible? if how is that possible? >> it's just shocking how the biden administrationses has tiptoe around this. we all know the world's greatest sponsor or terror -- of terror, that's iran. they're behind this. we've allowedded them to enrich themselves under the biden administration and, larry, you and i know how the sanctions were working under the trump administration. we worked together to impose them. we got japan to stop pieing --

buying iranian crude. the bidens came in and here's what's happened. they've looked the other way on the sanctions. we've allowed them to increase their capital accounts by rough hi $50 billion just in additional oil sales since they've come in. the biden administration signed off on iraq making a $10 billion payment to iran. then most recently the $6 billion ransom payment. what we've done is put iran in the position to do precisely what they have done. and the incentive here, i think, is very obvious as well. what we've seen is that israel and saudi arabia with were coming back to the table that president trump set in terms of the abraham accords that we were at the press precipice of getting done at the end of the last administration. you worked on that too, larry. the iranians saw the saudis and israelis back to the table, the last thing they want to see is prosperity break out in the middle east. i think that's the inspiration for this, to disrupt that entire process using their proxy es, hamas, to do it.

and the fact that biden won't even speak to this, i think, is shocking. larry: senator hagerty, do you think it's possible after after this whole barbaric invasion, do you think that the bidens are still going to try to work with iran to make a nuclear deal? i mean, they seem like they'll never give up. and, by the by, as you may have heard or, they don't want to talk about it today. sullivan, you know, nsc adviser sullivan denied it. kirby, they don't want to talk about iran. biden wouldn't -- do you think they still were going to try to make a deal with iran after this barbaric invasion? >> well, isn't it shocking, larry e, that the administration that wants to talk about the root causes can't seem to see what the root cause of this disruption in the middle east is in the root ca cause is iran. they're the destabilizing force, and the ability for this to happen goes right to the heart of what the biden administration's foreign policy failures have been. allowing iran to enrich itself, it's the failure in afghanistan that has put if our weapons in the hands of hamas.

it's failure after failure from a foreign policy standpoint that has delivered this problem right here in the middle east. and the fact they won't look the cause in the eye is shocking. i'll say one thing, joe biden did finally acknowledge israel's right to defend itself, and as u.s. senator, i'm going to hold this administration to that. it's a shame it took them days to get to this point. you'll recall the first communiques out of the state department were from the palestinian affairs office asking for israel not to retaliate. the secretary of state having to take down his tweets talking about a ceasefire. again, trying somehow to placate their far left. it's ridiculous. we should call it what it is. iran's at the heartover this. they're -- of this. they're trying to destabilize the mid if east because they're worried israel and saudi arabia might instigate economic policies that would derive peace and prosperity. larry: you know, that's an important point. those tweets, subsequently deleted but so what, that's the kind of advice heir giving biden.

i mean, it's the secretary of state suggesting we've got to have an immediate ceasefire. what? really? i'm thinking, senator hagerty, all right, so biden talks to netanyahu, what did he say, three times today or three times in the last two days. that's great. he dissed him for over two years. wouldn't bring him to the white house for over -- i mean, still hasn't been to the white house. they met at the u.n. i mean, there's just a certain phoniness to this. the whole world is watching and, you know, kids are being beheaded, grannies are being murdered, so i understand that it is a tragic, heartbreaking story in israel, and joe biden is along with that. but with i'm asking you, is in any fundamental policy change that might really help israel, right? if you want to help israel, you've got to, you got the that put the clamps on iran. starve 'em. bankrupt 'em. >> we need to snap back the u.n. sanctions that were waived heed to be snapped back, larry. now -- you know that's the right

answer here. we need to get the $6 billion most recently granted, stop the flow of funds right there. come back and impose sanctions. start imposing and enforcing the sanctions that exist on this illegal sale of petroleum products from iran. that's how to make this sting, that's how to make it hurt. iran is thousand sell eking drones to russia. it's that drone technology that's going to be utilized here in israel. we've got to come at this from every angle. we've got to stop it. we can stop it. we've got to get the eye9ed -- united nations to move in the right direction. but the only way to do or that is for the united states to demonstrate the leadership itself. larry: yes, sir. senator hagerty, terrific stuff. i know you're very, very busy down in texas. we appreciate your time, honestly. thanks for helping us out. all right, folks, joining us is aaron cohen, former member of israel's special operations counterterrorist unit. aaron, welcome. i'm kudlow, i don't think we've formally met -- >> nice to meet you, kudlow.

been watching you for years, i'm a fan. [laughter] larry: all right. the air force, israeli air force doing the work with right now. the army is on the way. can you just dui us a sense of how -- give us a sense of how you think the army is going to play it on the ground? >> well, so this is the way we work in israel, and let me make clear, we -- this isn't our first rodeo being with attacked on multiple fronts. we saw this in '73, we're seeing it again now. we've spent a lot of time in and around gaza. we've had multiple scraps in that, in that southern just south of israel. so you've got air force operations that are using selectivity. israel a heres to, you know, national rules. we tap and knock. we drop leaflets. we're a little less persistent right now because we're against the clock, and i'm going to get into that in a second. we've got selective air strikes, just though there's special operations, actually idf special operations forces on the ground working with those air force

f-15s and f-35s and f-18s to laze those targets. we've got to put laser designators on those targets which means you've got to get in there dressed plain clothes. it's a lot of work, it's very dangerous, a hot time right now. but that's the air force special operations unit known as the kingfisher unit. we've got the general staff unit which is bibi netanyahu's old unit that specializes in intelligence gathering. they're planting listening devices, they're behind enemy lines in gaza, they're putting recording devices up. they are, we are -- we've got probably a thousand agents within our intelligence agency, our security service, our mow to sad who are -- mossad who are listening to probably thousands of cell phones right now. it's a monitor undertaking. so -- monster undertaking. the intelligence and prep work is what we're looking at right now. and by the way, the general staff recognizance unit rescued

hostages in uganda, and bibi's older brother was the only israeli casualty on that mission. so the general staff reconnaissance unit in conjunction with the -- [speaking in native tongue] , the israeli counterterror hostage unit, one of the top three units in the world, they are planning right now with that general staff reconnaissance unit multiple hits to be able to get to those hostage targets. and here's the problem, israel's on the clock. unlike the rescues that you guys haven't heard about which i'm familiar with which happened in southern israel, over 20 the hostages were freed, hay talk about casualty es -- larry: when? >> this, a couple days ago. there's been hr going on for days, we're just -- we've got to be careful about what we put out right now as i know you can understand that, kudlow. however, the gaza hostage rescue operations are the most critical

thing to us. it's about preserving israeli life. so we are planning multiple operations which i believe israel's going to use to smoke screen and the chaos from this counteroffensive that they're preparing right now with 300,000 reservists in conjunction with this unit, the brigade that's equivalent to israel's marines who are part of the southern command. they're the ones who fought in gaza five years ago, and they're going to use the smoke screen and the confusion to launch multiple hostage rescue operations. israel didn't invent hostage rescue, but we perfected it, kudlow. we are a master at this craft. we speak the language. we understand the customs and traditions and nobody, nobody can put in operatives dressed as locals like we can. and that's what i used to do in the idf in my unit. larry: aaron, can you -- >> it's going to be -- larry: people want to know, god bless. this is a fabulous report. you're terrific, by the way. >> appreciate you.

larry: can you just blow hamas out of gaza? >> no, we can't -- larry: you've got to. >> no, we won't. we will blow them out of the water, but let me make a correction. we're not going to destroy gaza. we're not going to turn it into a parking lot -- larry: no, no, i agree with that. it's these barbaric terrorists. >> that's right. we can do that, but this is going to take time. but right now we have hostages we need to rescue. this is the most significant hostage siege in the history of modern warfare. this isn't just one kid walking into columbine and gunning people down. we had 2500 terrorists come into israel with aking 47s, and thousand we've got to get all of our -- larry: american terror -- american hostages too? is that possible? >> potentially, potentially. i've got to be careful what i say here, you can understand, but there is -- the state department has been in close contact with israel. israel9 and the u.s. are are -- when it comes to to sharing information and intelligence.

we're israel's forward operating base in the middle east. we've got carriers coming, so everybody is in cahoots. larry: you are terrific. it's a great analysis, and you know what? the most positive thing i've heard in the last 72 hours. i really mean that. terrific stuff. i hope you'll come back and help us some more. >> appreciate you. anytime. larry: all right, folks, we're going to switch gears a little bit. what's the -- what the hell's wrong with harvard and columbia backing the terrorists instead of israel? by the way, harry summers, former -- larry e summers, he gets a m.d. ifal -- medal for protesting the posters. -- protesters. liz peek and charlie hurt when a straight ahead . with an array of active ingredients... and sizes to relieve your pain. salonpas. it's good medicine. (fisher investments) it's easy to think that all money managers are pretty much the same,

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larry: all right, back in the usa a, larry summers, former treasury secretary, president of harvard, is, quote, sickened by harvard and columbia students backing terrorists over israel. here's the tweet. in nearly 50 years of harvard affiliation, i have never been as disillusioned and alienated as i am today. i'm going to give him a medal. liz peek, syndicated columnist and charlie hurt, washington times opinion editor and a fox news contributor. liz peek, what is wrong with these kids, all right? you went to one of those

schools, i went to one of those schools. not harvard particularly. >> i kid not. larry: all right. [laughter] you're the only honest guy here. >> no boasting allowed. larry: what is wrong with these kids, and what is wrong with the administrators who won't step up and say the right thing? >> that's what larry's really to if fended by, is that the president of hard voir dire -- and he was president of harvard university, should take a stand and denounce, this is, i think, 41 student organizations basically are blaming israel for being attacked by hamas. and this is, look, this is a very popular thing on campuses this year -- these days that the palestinians are to possessed -- oppressed people, israel is the oppressor, and there's this whole big narrative about how israel has done such damage to the palestinian people. no one ever talks about hamas prohibiting economic development in the gaza strip. larry: economic, they're chopping off baby withs' heads. >> yes. larry: they're pulling

grandmothers out of bed and -- is and they're backing them, these kids? >> well, we have congress people doing the same thing. rashida tlaib has a palestinian flag out of her office and has not come out against them. larry: charlie, world reaps the seeds of terrorism sown by biden. are these harvard kids on your mailing list? [laughter] >> they should be. and i think it's great that larry summers came out and condemned this. he should. but, you know, he is partly responsible for this because this is not something that happened overnight. this has been going on for decades, ask is people like larry summers allowed it to go on for decades as they led places like harvard. it's a total ignorance about current affairs, ignorance about history, it's an ignorance about -- it's a, you know, a condemnation and ignorance about humanity. and the idea that these people, you know, and this is -- and and as

wrongheaded as these kids are and as stupid as they are, the reason you send them to college is to be around adults who actually know the answers to some of these questions -- larry: where are the adults? >> they're not there. they're cowards. larry: where the are the adults? seriously? >> and whether you're talking about how many genders there are or who is right between terrorists and law-abiding citizens of israel, to me, it's many to difference. when you teach fancy and emotion to children or allow them to just sort of, like, steep in this nonsense, you can't be surprised that they wind up with some really vile views. larry: lightning round. liz peek, rfk jr., robert kennedy, not running as a democrat, running as an independent. >> i think it says a lot about joe biden. clear clearly bide season a ridiculous candidate. look, rfk hopes to go to, appeal to a party where something like 80 of the party doesn't want joe biden as their candidate -- 80%.

look, the democrat national committee refused debates, refused to have an open primary of any kind, to let rfk in to compete with joe biden, so this is the his revenge in a sense. and, look, i think it's going to be a problem for joe biden. i know there's this chatter about it's going to hurt trump more than biden. i think that's baloney. larry: this one's way too easy. who's going to be the next speaker? we had kevin mccarthy on tonight. very good on the policy stuff, and i asked him, well, i don't want to run, i want to go with the conference. what's your take, charlie many. >> i would have said jim jordan do on friday afternoon, but after all of this went down, you know, things got real serious up in there. and when that happened, i think that changes the dynamic considerably. the most interesting thing about it -- larry: and, therefore? and, therefore? >> mccarthy. the fact that mccarthy is clearly making an effort to be visible suggests to me that

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