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the grounds it can't possibly have -- that is, our. well done. terribly sorry. terribly sorry. okay, thanks very much for getting it right, see you again soon for being here for the hour, don't forget to send your friday feedback, e-mail us questions, comments, concerns. by the way we do want to know, birkenstocks or crocs, which are the most ugly? 15 seconds left, i will check the market, the dow is down a little bit, nasdaq is up a little bit but no clear trend today, 3. 7% consumer price inflation for the last 12 months, neutral reading, neutral stock prices, time is up. coast-to-coast starts now. >> this tragic war hasn't sued, we follow the anomaly between
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what is happening on wall street and what is going on on every street on the planet particularly those with cross purposes on the gaza and israel and all points around is real because we are waiting to see a land invasion, troop invasion along the gaza, 300,000 israeli reservists strong and signs that israel is not only targeting hamas and their terror bases but has bola. at the meantime look at what is happening again at wall and broad where stocks are barely budging at all. they are down a lot more but the fact of the matter is look at what is going on with interest rates, backing up a little bit, the 10 year is sort of the barometer for the market sentiment, pick back up a tad but remember this thing last week was touching almost 4.90%, still hovering around the level of 4.65, oil prices similarly
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contained even with the prospect of disarray in the middle east, barely budging a little north of the $83 a barrel last week at this time. it was close to $90 a barrel so the fact of the matter is this containment is what is amazing. is that a sign of were nervous investors the world over disproportionately from outside the united states parking there money in the usa waiting to see what happens? what do you think, sam? >> expectations are that we are not going to have this conflict broaden out to other areas of the region. as a result we will probably keep oil prices below $85 through the end of this year but we could see it expand to $85 by the end of 2 as the fed
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starts to cut rates, the economy expands globally etc. . stuart: neil: you are a great student of history, your encyclopedia about this but one thing we remember from the yom kippur war, the unintended consequences, back then the entire arab world uniting behind syria, egypt, condemning israel even though syria attacked israel, leaving that aside, they joined together to sort of screw and anyone helping israel namely the united states. that's when the embargo started and the gas line started. it is a very different world 50 years later and that is why that is not repeating itself. what do you think? >> you are right, looking back at military shocks going back to world war ii, several occurred in the middle east, looking at the twee 6-day war
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in 1967, the munich olympics, yom kippur war, iraq's invasion of kuwait. in both of those instances, yom kippur war, we were in the midst of bear markets and recessions, yom kippur war started on october 6, 1973, 90 days later, still down 10% and when dealing with iraqi in 1990 when the recession ended bear market down 14.5% after the event. neil: this know where we see, we talked to many military analysts, i cover both worlds and one of the things one analyst told me, one thing that unsettles me is i'm trying to figure out why hamas did what it did and had to be crazy enough to do so thinking there's another step to this.
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i worry about the next step. >> the question, is the hamas invasion of israel a diversionary ploy for something else? maybe hamas is working for iran and iran might be doing something later. i'm not a geopolitical strategist but i was thinking the same way, a move to keep our attention there while something else might be occurring in other parts of the globe. adam: you said wait through this and see what happens. to congressman bob goodman, the virginia republican, what he makes of this, great to have you, so much going on. i want to touch on israel and the fact vote vote war, we've already seen that it has not only hamas, might be logical
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land war soon. to the north of has bola, still tricky, still anyone's guess, what do you think? >> yes, that's why it's critically important we stand unequivocally with israel, they want to defend themselves but they need to know the united states is behind them. back to donald trump's maximum pressure campaign, to iran they are using $150 billion from the obama biden white house, that's funding terrorist activities, by the biggest state sponsor of terror. with every passing day, we will suffer something similar to what's happening as we allowed thousands, tens of thousands, from 160 different countries.
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>> and democratic colleagues, and he gave a release to the iranians. and bottom line, >> 4 billion aid package that we passed to have the house in our spending bills relating action from the senate. and that was before the invasion. to repurpose the $6 billion to help israel, back to the greatest force of funding for terrorism. neil: you raise something argues are bubbling up with.
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you are waiting to resolve the speaker issue. we know steve scalise will address congress at 12:15, twee through gop conferences but it is not settled. >> we had a conference meeting yesterday and another one at 12:15. steve scalise got 110 votes, 120 republicans, my colleagues and i begged us to work through it my see what it would take to 217, the person supporting jim jordan, many were surprised that jim jordan got 99 votes, 11 voted for someone else. he got just one vote shy of a majority. the american people are urging us to elect jim jordan. we should do what our grassroots supporters want us to do, let's elect the second most popular republican in the country to be speaker of the house, represent change, not the status quo. neil: i understand, i get that,
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you are fond of him and he of you but he was second to ozempic team. are you open to 1/3 candidate? >> what makes jim jordan so qualified, he's not pursuing the poses and at all costs. he was drafted into running for it. he's willing to support steve scalise if he has that 217 -- neil: neither one captures much steam. is there a consensus candidate, go through the speaker pro tem, make him the guy, got to find a way to get this settled and it is not selling. >> that's why this is so healthy, it's disruptive, we've got to break the swamp cartel with those in the current leadership pipeline, only those anointed by the special interest groups, lobbyist and wall street to be considered. jim jordan can get there but if he wasn't able to, we literally
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have to draft someone who represents the conservative center of the conference and had least amount of opposition and a number of qualified talented candidates. i don't want to say they would be a candidate right now. neil: the reason why i ask -- you could be right. the democrats might have to do it and vote, a few of them yellow and vote for somebody. >> don't think there's any chance of that happening. they will vote for hakeem jeffries and a republican would vote for a democrat, that would be a political suicide even for the most moderate members. we will get a speaker who will fight for, what i'm looking for someone who is a leader and a fighter that will do whatever it takes to secure the border, cut spending and fight for the american people. we haven't been doing that in recent years. the country cannot afford to stay on the current track. that's not sustainable.
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neil: you guys are looking like keystone cops, you can't get this done and it doesn't bode well for americans and their opinion of you running the house because you can't seem to run it. >> that was said in january and a week or two later no one cared it took some extra days to elect a speaker. we. with the impact of this decision for decades. with 33 trillion national debt, $2 trillion deficit, open border. neil: no fault to you. >> i was not in favor of it. neil: one of you guys to torpedo a speaker. >> only one person can consider whether to retain the speaker, one person can't remove the speaker. one person can bring up the vote and speaker mccarthy -- neil: he brought it up and got what he wanted. >> wasn't just one guy. neil: some of your colleagues
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are saying if it is used again -- >> look at the poll that is out of republican voters, 30% disapprove of what happened last week, 25% say they approve, 45% didn't know or didn't care and those are republican voters. if you asked if we could switch kevin mccarthy for jim jordan what do you think the polls would say? somewhere in the range of 80-20 they want jim jordan. lauren: 1 you be open to that? a speaker? >> 217 votes away from 218 but if you will endorse me i might get closer. neil: you might get two or three votes. >> got momentum. neil: i want to go to the former new york state assembly been, he made it his mission to go to israel to see what's going on. he has said quite an eye full since going there. how are you doing?
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>> i'm doing fine but i spend the day at the herschel cemetery as they buried 30 soldiers literally one after the other. i don't think i ever had a day like today in my life. it was sad, it was horrible, parents, grandparents, children, thousands and thousands of people. i'm happy to be here but today was not a good day but i'm happy i was there to be with the families, thousands of israelis at the cemetery. i never spent the whole day at a cemetery in my life. neil: the world supports israel because there are some capitals where protests are happening, palestinians condemning israel. we have several for israel, but
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what do you make of that? that there is suspicion of his real? they better not go too far. that message from the united nations too. what do you make of that? >> israel is going to finish the job. when the job is done, it is the only way to make sure that there is peace for the people of israel and the palestinians but it is scary to watch the things going on in new york and different parts of america, what was done to children, it is beyond comprehension they slaughter men, women, and children, it didn't matter. you know something else? the nazis whenever committing
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genocide against the jewish people, didn't want anyone to know about it. not the new nazis of our generation. they did he owed the horrors of what they did to men, women and children. they were proud of it. these are not human beings, there is no way in the world. to think that my neighbors and your neighbors in america, people out there who are defending hamas makes me sick and tells me how dangerous the situation is. some people in new york, they are filled with hatred and let me tell you they can murder jews in new york, they would do it in a split second. neil: please be safe over there. the former new york state
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assembly, the founder of the state of anti-semitism. talking about how this could spread out of control a couple things we are following as they wait for an expanded ground war, fears that some of that could reverberate here. the former hamas leader who called for a jihad on friday the 13th, take to the streets in protest against israel. some interpreted that as a sign he wants to protest a lot worse, the capitals around the world including new york city where we are told the police department is calling out every able-bodied officer, the message is every single one of you, after this.
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tomorrow including a palestinian leader to say tomorrow is a good way to protest worldwide against the abuse being heaped on palestinians, that this would be an opportunity to express their views all over the world come out of fear this could become something more sinister and called out there available personnel in new york, all available working police men and women to show up tomorrow, whether on vacation or sick or whatever, be there. we are following that and the latest develop and seen israel, to take you where things stand now. >> reporter: we returned from a location with the army you have probably heard of. a festival where 260 people were mowed down by hamas militants. the devastation of what took place. this is one scene among many all along southern israel and it is motivating the soldiers
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to get ready for battle. it's not a matter of if they go into gaza but when. when you see the eyes of the soldiers, to see what happened to their country, there is a spirit about them that they are ready to fight. i will show you our reporting from a small community, we were there with the army and we see the brutality inflicted on the israeli people. some of the images are extremely graphic. >> reporter: the roads are lined with israeli soldiers and the bodies of palestinian militants they kill. hamas fighters waiting at the gate of this quiet, unity before ambushing a civilian car. once inside they would inflict unimaginable terror on the population of 1000.
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>> someone cuts their head, they look and someone kills them, the same room, kill them all. >> kitchen floor stained with blood. people were home at the time, hamas militants into their homes, the soldiers tell us they found the bodies that appear to be executed, people with hands tied behind their backs, mothers holding small children, bodies decapitated. cheer horror in this small town. >> reporter: a place known for its art gallery, the small details that paint a horrific picture we a pile of legos on the ground, food atop a table for breakfast, photos that hang on the fridge like any home would have. people resting on the weekend with their loved ones when the massacre took place. now 10% is dead, some entire families wiped from existence. >> bodies of local residents
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litter the area. they didn't have anywhere to go, no one to help them. the smell of death pierces the air, there's nothing left to this community. as the israeli army makes it into areas like this they are still engaged in active battles, infiltration attempts, we saw one as the israelis put hands behind their back, tied them, put a blindfold over a man they encountered in the woods, they say he was a palestinian militant who crossed into israel. there are a variety of attempts to fire rockets not just from gaza but southern lebanon. preparations underway for the israelis for those orders. neil: antony blinken has been visiting speaking with benjamin netanyahu earlier today
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outlining what the united states hopes to do and the help to provide to israel, we are monitoring this and whether he will take questions about anything else potentially for tomorrow. we are learning a group called students for justice in palestine, a plan they call a day of resistance of rallies in the events are scheduled not only on college campuses across the country but the former hamas leader telling it, this jihad on friday the thirteenth telling muslims to take to the streets anywhere in protest against israel. some interpreted that is code word for attacks or something more. the journalist israeli analyst as well. what do we know about these plans for tomorrow and this call to action, call to act and do what? >> time for arabs and muslims to be more creative than in the past, and they are part of this
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battle, streets of diaspora everywhere. he wants that to be hamas's war against israel. we should make people afraid. some of these protests around the world in favor of the palestinians but in response to massacres by hamas they have been pretty violent or unpleasant for jewish people. in the uk jewish people are quite afraid in university campuses and places like that, a 400% increase in anti-semitic incidents according to the security trust. the government has pledged millions more immediately to community security to protect the jewish community and in instagram they canceled jewish schools friday in anticipation of what might happen. we need to assess what's going
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on in israel and the day of rage called for in conjunction with anti-semitism that lies at the heart of hamas's ideology. neil: for something more, this is part of this, to unite the arab world, the governments and peoples of jordan, syria, lebanon and egypt, support the palestinians, the tribes of jordan, sons of jordan, this is a moment of truth, the borders are closing in on you, we know the responsibility. you know your responsibility. >> you might ask what it might mean. at the heart of this as i said
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before, this deeply rooted anti-semitism that is central to hamas's ideology. it's not a dispute about occupation because gaza hasn't been occupied by israel for a long time. this is a bloodthirsty desire to roast babies, to kill, rape, behead people, these are the videos and pictures i've seen with my own eyes as a result of what happened on saturday. it is so horrific they can't be shown to the wider world so that everybody could see them. founding document is crystal clear that what they want is for all jews to be killed, literally, these analogies of israel and others that hamas is isis, they need to be treated like isis, we need to take
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that, not the same islamist terrorists but a similar ideology and methodology, they are brutal, evil animal like people who are willing to stop at nothing to inflict pain and torture and suffering on jewish people and america who is supporting israel as they say, the great satan and the little satan, the united states and israel. it is vital people see this for what it is in terms of what is going on in israel and how they react to what's going on in their own cities, in the west, london, the states, dc, new york, we've seen ugly protests, some countries suggesting they want to stop it happening, scared of what they could escalate into. and israel we see what it can escalate into. some people have been comparing this to the holocaust. this is an say holocaust. it's not historical.
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it is not the same. it is a bloodthirsty desire to kill jews. it is a more than current a version, that's what people need to be afraid of. stuart: thank you for that. we are hearing from antony blinken who is taking questions including what we are doing about 25 americans who have died obviously and the other 2 dozen or close to 2 dozen who are now hostage, 17 officially. >> these conditions are for restraint as we expect from a ground offensive but one thing has been reported just recently, a report in the washington post the united states and qatar have decided, to suspend the access that iran has. can you say if this is accurate and if it is a slow down.
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>> we did see photographs, videos that the israeli government shared with us. some, i think, has already been seen. in public media. others are new to the team. it is hard to find the right words. it is beyond what anyone would ever want to imagine much less actually see, and god for bid experience. a baby, an infant riddled with bullets, soldiers beheaded, young people burned alive in their cars, or their hideaway rooms. i could go on, but it is simply
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depravity in the worst imaginable way. it almost defies comprehension, saying to me in the most immediate future harkens back to isis and some of the very things we saw when it was on its rampage, thankfully it stopped. so i think for any human being to see this is really beyond almost anything that we can comprehend, digest, and i would just add when you see this, you
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try to imagine, you can't help but imagine your self, your family, loved ones, friends, in that situation, that predicament, and the best foot forward for me is overwhelming. i think what is done, as i said, united a country in profound brief but united country and resolve and it is imperative that the rest of us shared that resolve. i said this earlier, this is a moment for moral clarity. this is a moment where everyone needs to make clear that there
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is repulsion, discussed, and a determination not to allow this to go forward. images are worth a thousand words. these images may be worth a million. on the mediterranean situation in gaza, it is important to remember the fundamental issue that makes this complicated. hamas continues to use civilians as human shields, something that's not new, something they've always done, intentionally putting civilians in harms way to protect themselves or their infrastructure or their weapons. so that is one of the basic
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facts israel has to deal with. civilians should not be used in any way as the targets of military operations, the target of military operations. we did discuss ways to address the humanitarian needs of people in gaza to protect them from harm while israel conducts its legitimate operations to defend itself from terrorism and make sure this never happens again. we talked about possibilities of safe passage for civilians who want to leave or get out of the way in gaza and that is a discussion that we will pursue in the coming days in some of the countries we are visiting. this is important. this is an area for focus. with regard to the $6 billion. unfortunately facts get lost along the way.
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the money that iran accrued in bank accounts in south korea for the sale of its oil was done pursuant to an arrangement established by the previous administration, the trump administration. none of the funds that have now gone to qatar have been spent or accessed in any way by iran. funds from that account are -- can only be dispensed for humanitarian goods, medicine, and never touch uranian hands. we have strict oversight and we retain the right to freeze them. >> next question goes to channel 13. >> thank you very much.
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the president compared rightfully hamas's horrendous massacre to isis. can you provide assurance the biden administration will not attempt to out israel and the goal of eliminating hamas from gaza is completely achieved regardless of how long it may take, if hezbollah -- of hezbollah opens the second friend, can we expect that if needed the us will use its military assets together with the idea? >> thank you. with regard to the first question, the president has been very clear. i have been clear. we stand with israel. we stand with israel in its determination to defend its people, defendants country.
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we stand with israel in its determination to do everything possible to ensure what happened on saturday never happens again. in that determination, providing assistance as requested by israel for its efforts that will continue and work closely with congress to make sure israel has what it needs to do what it wants. as i mentioned earlier, determination and israel as well, there will not be a second front or 1/3 front and we are working as far as we can with other partners in the region to ensure that is the case. of the president has been very clear, president biden, very clear that no one, state or
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nonstate actor to take advantage with this moment and he has backed up that warning with deployment of our largest carrier group, the gerald ford, as well as again, making sure israel has what it needs and we also have appropriate access in place. beyond that i won't speculate about future events. >> next question from the new york times. >> many people have likened the her and this violence by hamas to the attacks of 9/11 in the us. the us earned lots of goodwill after those at tax and there were many expressions of solidarity for the us from around the world, but soon after the us squandered that
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goodwill when it began its invasion of iraq. decades on, many people think the most lasting consequences of 9/11 were the two wars that were disastrous in hindsight. i wonder what lessons might you have for israel as a friend of israel looking back at the aftermath of 9/11. second, i wonder whether your team has assessment of what hamas's goals were in carrying out attacks, and whether it has gotten closer to those goals? >> let me say this with regard to 9/11. if you look at this in proportion to the size of israel's population. . 20 we will monitor this was couple developments to what the secretary of state apparently just put out meeting with the
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leaders of saudi arabia, egypt and qatar. it is from qatar that we gotta palestinian statement about a day of jihad. it is interpreted as that. protests about israel and the treatment of palestinians, some interpreted much more to that. interestingly enough antony blinken brought up the $6 billion, not a penny of this has gone to iran, the possibility that has come up, refreezing that money. that iran has no control over. don't know how that would work but having said that, to remove any doubt that that money would not get to them and we talked to a representative of new york city some women and others and say why not just get it to israel.
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it is not quite that simple but there's another point antony blinken raised, talking about the united states. i'm paraphrasing here, we don't want to see a second front or third front in this war. we are already seeing that. besides dealing with hamas along the gaza strip, there have been attacks from hezbollah coming from lebanon and conversely attacks coming from syria that prompted the israelis to attack two airports in syria including the big one in damascus. of that multi-front is already on and the question, is the administration limiting this response on the part of israel to gaza and trying not to advance this two points north like lebanon and syria. hard to say but this is already a multi-front or judging from
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that attack line here. a little confusing. charlie gasparino is interpreting where this is going. certain candidates look good in this environment versus others, not so good. this notion of the 6 billion, where is it going? >> there is historical precedent for neighbors and enemies to attack on a multi-front basis. yom kippur war was exactly that, the egyptians from the south, syrians from the west, catching israel off guard back then. neil: we've seen attacks. charles: the prime minister took a lot of heat for that. money is always fungible.
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they are saying they put the money in an account and earmarked it specifically for specific things the irradiance weren't doing for them from a humanitarian standpoint. i don't know what that is but the iranians weren't feeding their people enough protein. this money was going specifically to feed and protein. it wouldn't be used for something else because it can't free up other stuff. spending it for that purpose to begin with. i find that, the iranians allowing people to die in the street, there is wealth that is confiscated. it is a kind of quasi-socialist state. the humanitarian aid is given to a country that is not, we are not talking mass famine. this is iran which is a modern
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state. as you know. neil: crossed the line it doesn't look good. fellow democrat saying refreeze it, be done with it. charles: it doesn't make sense, excuses don't make sense. this is why nikki haley is doing better, she has a wicket uphill battle, everybody i talk to and i talked to a lot of republicans saying everybody else has to drop out for her to win, and maybe her and ron desantis can do some coalition government to basically consolidate the field and push everybody else out, that's the way. neil: she is strongest on dealing with realities in the middle east. donald trump called hezbollah very smart, praised vladimir putin for his skills and global smarts.
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he has bemoaned the fact that it is our policies in the region, these are policies he pursued in the same region. wise there no brush back from him because he said a lot of stupid things. charles: he controls 30% of the republican party. they don't care. neil: in the reality enough to say you have been complement hezbollah, you have been criticizing prime minister netanyahu for having a relationship with president biden, i am wondering where that goes and why nikki haley would only benefit a little bit. charles: because his following in the republican party is stable, they don't care what he says. he says crazy stuff all the time. >> does he say -- do they say doesn't matter? charles: he does have a cultlike following that don't care. it reminds me of stuff he said
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during covid, shoe bleach, he said it. neil: 80% agreeing this is a tragedy for israel and you are right. a lot of these things, it is in every one's comments, go after president biden for delayed response but also go after donald trump her crazy responses are any candidates, even vivek ramaswamy who said you don't want to get involved because you are pursuing financial interests or something like that. it's fair game to go after all these guys who want the most powerful office in the world. charles: it shows the republican party has become more isolationist. charles: do they fear by questioning what did you say about hezbollah that will hurt them? charles: trump doesn't care. did he think shooting. would hurt him? charles: it is interpreted as getting the trump base angry. charles: i watched an ad today by ron desantis that said i
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served in the military, somebody else didn't, he didn't mention his name. neil: no matter how it sorts out if you are expecting this to ding donald trump -- charles: if you go halfway against him, the desantis commercial was perfect, i would think you would hear nikki haley come out and say this guy patted hezbollah on the back. stuart: 20 if she doesn't do that? charles: they are walking a tight rope that never works. ted cruz started attacking trump, it was at the end. neil: i don't mean to belabor the point but we cover anything and everything, one of the best on the planet at doing that and if you are going to rip people in a position of power, deems
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adam: they are stuck in his reliance can't get out of was they wanted to visit, everything was going fine, all of the sudden you know what went down saturday and what followed, in and out of his real, all the major american airlines are going there, returning or trying to get you out of there and new jersey residents want to get back to new jersey. how are you holding up? >> as well as can be expected to. neil: all options to get out of israel stopped happening. there's there is a move in the state department, have you heard anything? >> we heard about it in the last half-hour or so. the state department started to
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talk about having ships and planes take people out. you won't have a choice of destination and you are on your own from wherever they take you. most likely athens, may be a destination in europe as well. those rescue trips are supposed to start in the next day or two. neil: how do you get to athens were that location? >> the idea, to get americans to athens, then you're on your own. adam: how are you holding up through this? >> nerve-racking. in our apartment most of the day, that the amount of
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shopping we do, for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and back to our apartment, looking over our shoulder, looking around us. adam: you mentioned, i want to be clear, are you part-time residents? you go there a lot? >> no. it is airbnb. adam: you mentioned, i am sure it is surreal. what is it like in the streets? how are israelis dealing with all this? >> surreal is barely the word to describe it. we are in downtown jerusalem, very commercial area kind of like times square but a lot more mom and pop shops and typically for this time of year, this time anytime during the day, it is swarmed, mobbed,
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basically a ghost town, very few people, people are scurrying around, people want to get home, do what they need to do, you never know when there will be an air raid siren. the streets are empty. there's a great deal of tension. you just feel it. it will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow, threatened day of jihad, how people react to that. neil: thank you very much. i don't think you planned on that when you booked your trip. >> not even a little bit. >> this is going to be a vacation for us. neil: and a memorable one at that. more after this.
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it's a different way to make a difference. adam: neil: protests going on in paris, france, they are not welcome, it's going to lead to disturbances. we see a good deal of that. no pro-palestinian protests can happen. one implement it tomorrow, they are protesting that decision today, expect to see a lot of that. jackie deangelis.

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