>> jim jordan is as anathema to the democrat agenda that as anyone in the house. jim jordan was matt gawts ten -- matt gaetz ten years ago, they hated him x. he's been very smart about about how to wield house power, he's very wise about it, and now he's opposed to become speaker. [laughter] >> we have a mission on our mind, and that's to eliminate hamas from the root. we want to make sure this can't happen again and that our children never have to fight

this fight ever, ever again. >> i'll give baden some credit for standing behind israel so far -- biden -- but we should have the max sanctions restored to iran. we have to have iran go bankrupt. >> this is probably maximum solidarity that an american president can show in a time like this. there's some risk going over there politically, physically, but he's doing it. it's exactly the right thing to do. ♪ stuart: morniing even. 11:00 eastern time, tuesday, october the 17th. will you look at this? the market has come back significantly. we were down, what, 200 points on dow, 150 on the nasdaq. now we're down a little less than that. big tech was, all of them were down earlier, now just one of them is up, meta's up. alphabet, microsoft, amazon and apple are all down. here's the big with story on the financial markets of this day, the strong upside move of the yield on the 10-year treasury. now you're looking at 4.82%.

that is a very strong move up. more on that later. now this. henry kissinger is perhaps america's most famous diplomat. he's 100 years old. he has issued a warning about mass migration referring to the arrival of millions of mideasterners in germany. he said this: it was a grave mistake to let in so many people of a totally different culture and religion and concepts because it creates a pressure group inside each country that does that. that's what's happened in germany. thousands of muslims gathered to celebrate the terror the attack on israel. they have become an internal pressure group. it started back in 2015 when an army of migrants marched from north africa to germany, and chancellor angela merkel let them in. today there's a similar march into the united states, and biden has let them in. they, too, are now an internal pressure group from different cultures and sometimes different

religions. they will change america and change america's politics. this is exactly what biden wanted. thousand we're beginning to realize -- now we're beginning to realize the dangers. gangs, drugs, the possibility of terror attacks and millions of people with no experience of democracy or the rule of law. at first when germany admitted a million migrants, chancellor merkel welcomed them. eight years later henry kissinger calls it a grave mistake. same in america. democrats welcomed the open border, now just three years later the extent of biden's grave mistake is becoming clear. america's been changed forever, and we had no say in it. third hour of "varney" starts now. ♪ ♪ stuart: jimmy failla is here. jimmy, has biden changed america forever? >> hopefully not forever, but for the time being, he

absolutely has. this is what people mistake about mass migration. yes, we are a country that was built on immigration, but the people coming here wanted to be american. they wanted to buy into our way of live, okay, and they were proud to have a piece of that grand bargain. what we're seeing now is not a melting pot. we're now a country that's a smoking pot. and half of the people coming here are just complaining the whole time. and what you realize when it comes to the border is there's a real dereliction of duty. what we've tried to characterize as compassion, people want to come hear and build a better life, is fine. okay? but if we don't have the ability to vet who's coming here, because they're not coming from landlocked nations. they're coming from had the, you know, breeding grounds for terror groups on other sides of the world because they know they can get in. and they're not coming here to support what we're doing, they're coming here explicitly because they don't like it -- stuart: what do you say to donald trump when wants to limit muslim immigration?

>> i don't think he's wrong. the same with ron desantis calling out nikki haley for saying you can't just take in a million palestinians who are taught the, you know, to exterminate the jewish race from word one. that's the reality of where these people are from, okay? we can hope that some day they might assimilate to a more respectful world view, but i don't want to be the one to figure out whether they can or can't when i'm walking down the street. the old adage, defense wins championships. stuart: is the melting pot concept still alive and well in america? >> not now -- stuart: it's not, is it? >> it isn't. because the people living here now don't realize they have american privilege. if you live here, you're living in the most tolerant and inclusive society the world has ever known. but this -- if this is all you've known, we can't defer to the voices that don't get it, that's my concern. stuart: as usual, i'm going to change the subject. >> it's for the best. i was giving you the look. you know when the queen of england would lift her handbag,

get this guy out of her? whenever you see similar metty close the laptop -- >> is lauren bothering you? >> we've talked about it off the air. stuart: there's a new book, and it reveals oprah winfrey pitched a white house run with mitt romney. [laughter] did that ever have a chance? >> no, it didn't. but what i love about this story is it really shows you the transactional nature of the trump era. oprah winfrey had trump on her she all the time. she celebrate trump when he went from bankruptcy in the early '90s to back on top of the business world. he was a part of the fabric of polite society in show biz. mitt romney, who wanted trump's endorsement until trump was running for the presidency himself and tried to get the secretary of state and didn't get the job and then he ran for senate and said i'd like to be the guy who opposes him on the ticket? do you get how much of this is performance art? there has been a manufactured mister ya around donald trump.

i don't cosign every word that the comes out of his twitter account, but you understand everybody telling you he's this and existential threat to all of us was hanging out at his house an hour ago. they were taking his money, appearing on his reality show. i'd take you a lot more serious, nbc, because they tried -- cried on saturday night live when he won the presidency, i would have taken it more seriously if he hadn't hosted that very show in october of 2020. i feel like i'm missing context here, stu. can did they rip a page out of the book i was reading? i feel cheated. stuart: you write a good crypt -- script this, own though you've not got a script. >> not at all, stu. stuart: thank you very much. shall we get serious and look at the money side of things today? why not? mike murphy's big on money, ain't ya? [laughter] retail sales up strongly in the latest report. what do you make, is that good news for you guys in the equity

business or what? >> i was going to ask you. stuart: ask me? >> is it good news -- is good news good news or is good news bad news? stuart: at this moment, good news is bad news because interest rates go straight i. >> i agree. which never works. we want a strong economy. if you're invested in the united states stock market, you would like to support higher prices through a strong economy. that may have a negative impact immediately on a headline number like we saw this morning with retail sales, but that won't last. we need strong consumer, we need strong economy. the fed will get out of our way in the near future. they're close to -- stuart: think so? >> yes. stuart: when you say get out of our way, that's not just stopping raising rate, that's lowering rates. >> well, for sure stopping raising rates x. then let these rates, even if they have to stay up here for a longer period of time, the next move will be reducing interest rates which will spur the economy. so for me, i've been a strong proponent of the economy and

strong economy the whole time, and i'm going to stick there. i'm not looking for bad numbers to get the fed out of the way and then maybe we can reverse those negative numbers. a strong u.s. economy. stuart: the there's a wider war -- if there's a wider war and the price of oil goes up, that is a real negative, isn't it? >> yes. not -- as an investor, you don't want to run out and start the buying energy stocks or selling certain things and trying to make portfolio moves based on the potential that this war expands. stuart: mike, stay there for the hour, please. >> yes. stuart: lauren has closed her laptop -- lauren: i'm done. you noticed that. stuart: i know. we notice everything. take a look at wyndham hotels. it's up 10%. lauren: the "wall street journal"'s reporting that the they have rejected the choice hotels takeover bid that was valued at $7.8 billion or at $90 per wyndham share representing a 0% premium. -- 30% premium. wyndham say says it undervalues

their growth potential. this would have combined travel lodge with quality inn and the like. stuart: so they want more money. lauren: probably. stuart: lockheed martin, they've got to be doing well. >> they're up not even 1%. stronger earnings, sustained demand for weapons when we have geopolitical tension right now. the war in ukraine particularly prompting the restock thing of arms and ammunition, but the stock is not surging. i think because investors want an update on the f-35 fighter jet and the next generation of it it. there are supply chain issues with that. that's a big moneymaker. where does it stand? is. stuart: okay. lucid, i believe they make luxury electric vehicles. lauren: expensive one. delivery numbers disappointed, they delivered 1,457en units in the past three months, that's not much, it's not much of an a improvement from the prior quarter. so when they report earnings, are they on track to meet their production and delivery targets for the year after disappointing

third quarter. stuart: gen z, i understand, i'm in touch with some of these folks, hoping to retire way earlier than previous -- lauren: of course. stuart: okay. so two questions. how early do they want to retire? lauren: 61. stuart: and how do we know this? lauren: well, a charles schwab survey, they said they plan to work two jobs, do as much as it takes so the 27 and under crowd can retire at 61 years old. >> they going to an office or working two jobs from home? lauren: good question. all of the above. stuart: a lot of people do work two two jobs. lauren: millennials say 64, boomers or plan to retire at a 68, stuart. but gen-z is also still worried about inflation. they're feeling it. they're early in their career, and they see the price of rent, the price of groceries, so they're more attuned to the cost of things. so maybe they're saving and managing their money a little bit better, seeking financial advice earlier in order to meet that highly optimistic goal of retiring by 61.

stuart: i retired at 49. got bored stiff and came back. lauren: did you really? stuart: i did. way back when. >> great decision. look at you now. that. lauren: yeah, look at you now. [laughter] stuart: thank you, lauren. anti-semitic posts online surging in the wake of the a hamas terror attacks with new york city emerging as the epicenter of these threats. what a rotten story, but we've got it. the mayor of new york city, eric adams, going to limit shelter for migrant families to just 60 days. where do they go after that? it's getting cold. new york congresswoman claudia tenney weighs in. house lawmakers set to vote on a new speaker today. jim jordan seems to be gaining momentum. will he get the 217 votes he needs in chad pergram has the latest from capitol hill next. ♪ ♪ you can't buy great conversations or moments that matter, but you can invest in them.

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>> reporter: but some members loyal to house majority leader steve scalise feel burned. one told fox that the way some jordan loyalists worked to bend the rules to undermine scalise was, quote, disqualifying for jordan. republican in-fighting continues as some jordan allies dare their colleagues to oppose jordan. >> when you have people that broke the rules and put us in this spot, now they're saying now we need you to get onboard, it doesn't work for some of us. i think no american -- we believe in justice, we believe in fairness, rule of law are, and the majority of us have been stepped on if on this. and i'm not going to take it. >> reporter: democrats are more suspect of jordan than former speaker kevin mccarthy or scalise. that's because of jordan's conservative credentialings and deep ties to former president trump. >> jim jordan has a record that, unfortunately, matches kevin mccarthy's without the charm. but if they want to avoid a

catastrophic selection of another sort of mccarthy clone without the jacket, we're open to that. >> reporter: some republicans say jordan failed to quash attacks on them if they refused to endorses the ohio republican. it's about the math. jordan can only lose 4 votes, the house has now lacked a speaker for two weeks. stuart? stuart: chad, thanks very much or, indeed. i want to bring in congresswoman with claudia tenney, upstate new york congress lady. claudia, what are you going to do with matt gaetz? >> i don't think there's anything we can do. it's the it's district of -- 1st district of florida elects him, so we have to get a consensus. i'm disappointed to hear some of my colleagues. this is a team sport, and there's one thing the democrats understand, it's power, it's sticking together. and we as republicans knead to -- need to show our nation we're going to stick together because we are the last line of defense. while the democrats have created chaos with migrants, energy, inflation, these are real issues affecting our constituents every

day. look, whoever is going to be the speaker is going to be mostly an administrative position. yes, jim jordan is a conservative icon, and i don't think that hurts us. i think that helps us. jim is going to be a practical speaker just like every speaker that has come before the house. and unfortunately, people like matt gaetz reject practical people. but i think matt is going to have a hard time getting a number of other people to join with him in the motion to vacate, and so i think it's going to take a couple of rounds to get jordan in, but i think ultimately he prevailed. stuart: i think you're right. two or three ballots today. apt the end of it, i think jordan prevails, i would agree with that. not that i know much about it, congresswoman, but i'm inclined to agree. i want to turn to the new york migrant crisis, because it might involve you. news today that migrant families can only stay in shelters in new york city for 60 days, then they're out. they could be headed upstate to your constituency. how do you feel about that? >> could be.

they're already coming up there. they're already trying to ship them up. think hochul put a number of -- kathy hochul put a number of them into state university of new york campuses, many of them in the august wouldn't leave, we had to evict them in order for students who are ea paying tuition to get back into their dorm rooms. this is a huge problem. they never should have been here in the first place, we shouldn't have an open border. look, eric adams, unfortunately, woke up too late. we still have that shelter in place law, but we have got to start deporting these people. we have to have them go back to the country of origin. most of these people are not legitimate asylum seekers, and we have to have orderly migration. you see what's happening, just look at the crazies that is happening in israel -- crisis -- and the number of people in this country, in this country and the number of people in london and this in england and the u.k. and around the world who are protesting because they had open borders during these crises that we had in the middle east before. all kinds of refugees from all over the world. they welcomed them with open

borders. there is one european country that didn't do that, can and that's to poland. they focused on their own citizens, they focused on industrialization, they didn't focus on artist communities. they focused on production, gnp, bringing and creating wealth for their own citizens. they don't have a migrant crisis. unfortunately, they have a border crisis with ukraine. but this is a real issue that new yorkers are going to suffer from. it's going to cost the taxpayers money. they're going to try to force people into our upstate communities, and i represent 12 counties in upstate new york, mostly rural area. the largest ag district in the northeast. we and our counties upstate have rejected these immigrants with special emergency orders to make sure that we wouldn't be housing immigrants at the taxpayers' expense from the local governments not to mention our state taxes. kathy hochul, our governor, raised our taxes a billion dollars to accommodate these immigrants. we have to reverse those incentives and stand up for for our taxpayers. and it's time to send these people back if they don't have

legitimate asylum claims. and that's most of them. stuart: we hear you. republican congresswoman from upstate new york, claudia tenney, thanks very much for being here. >> thanks, stuart. stuart: new york city just unveiled a new man to use a.i. in its government? ashley, what are they going to do with a.i.? ashley: that's a very good question, stu. called the artificial intelligence action plan or, new york city outlining 37 key actions, most of which will be started or completed in the next year. they include creating external advisory network for addressing opportunities and challenges posed by a.i., educating city employees about working with a.i. and publishing a yearly progress report. the city also intends to hold public listening sessions to discuss why and how the city is using a.i. currently, by the way, there are nearly a dozen city agencies already using algorithmic tools including a program that tracks patterns of crime. but the city says it's also

evaluating the limitations of a.i. that can also exit patterns of bias and discrimination. in other words, a whole lot more red tape which we could end up with artificial unintelligence. we'll see. stuart: mike murphy's looking grim here. you don't necessarily approve of this -- [laughter] >> you know, stuart, when the government gets involved, this is technology. this is advancement in how we live our lives. to have the government get involved, there may need to be some rules average a it, but artificial intelligence isn't going to improve our society if it's regarding new york city's government to help us get there. stuart: i think you're right. thanks, mike. president biden travels to israel tomorrow. he wants to try to stop the conflict from spreading further across the mideast. details coming up. more americans reuniting with their loved ones after they escaped the terror attacks in israel. lydia hu at newark airport brings us the latest, that's next. ♪

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to healthcare. stuart: on the markets this morning, the dow has turn around, was down 150, now we're up all of 7 points.

nasdaq down 39, minor losses elsewhere where. mike murphy's here. you know, this is a special treat for everybody. he's got stock picks. and you're going to start with mcdonald's. how original. >> well, stuart, i think mcdonald's is a stock that's done really well until it hit about 300, just under it. and a lot of people said, oh, i wish i had gotten into mcdonald's or i didn't see the opportunity. now it's gone from 300, 299, down to 250. so there's an opportunity for you. what's changed? what's different about mcdonald's stock? why should it be worth less today than six months or a year ago? i don't think much. i think for anyone when thought they missed mcdonald's, there's an opportunity on this pullback. stuart: nvidia is down about 5%, 4% down because we're restricting exports of nvidia chips to china. okay, i got that. why do you think it's a buy at this level? >> so if you see the way the stock react to the news, it opened down as low as 424, and

since that point buyers have been coming in. again, this is a stock that still is up 200 even after a today, year to date, but if you are looking for an opportunity in nvidia, i think you have it on this pullback. i think any big selloffs in nvidia are an opportunity to buy the stock. stuart: you don't think it's too expensive? >> that's e a whole other story. if you believe in the stock and you want to own the stock, any selloff is where you should buy it. i would rather, for me personally, i would rather buy it through a large basket like the s&p 500. stuart: okay. all right. buying opportunity, nvidia. got it. next case, americans escaping israel, landing in new york area airports. lydia hu spoke with some of the arriving people at newark airport. what did they tell you, lydia a? >> reporter: hi, good morning, stuart. they told us they hope their today in the united states is brief because they want to go back to israel. we spoke to a mother who's traveling with her two children today, arriving from tel aviv.

here's why they decided to leave israel. >> it was too stressful with the children with the alarms. now, we're used to -- we had alarms sounding a few few, when was it, about a year ago, i don't even remember. we were accustomed the that, but but what's going on now just shocked everyone to the point where constant fear. and to live in that state of fear was just not possible. >> reporter: now, that mother and her children arrived on a commercial flight operated by el al. the state department says that more than 3,000 americans report they've left israel and the west bank on a commercial flight or through a land border. also nearly 1,000 americans and their immediate family members have evacuated on government-chartered plans -- planes and ships, but those charters don't offer direct service to the united states. >> i originally had a flight to

madrid at 5 a.m. monday, but i applied to the u.s. embassy to get me a flight out as soon as possible, and they were able to do that. they got me to athens in greece. >> reporter: now, aide aen then flew from at a thence to jfk in new york, arriving last night. the government tells us that the chartered flights will continue at least through thursday as more folks in israel try to book the limited available seats on commercial flights to get out of the war. stuart. stuart: all right, lydia, thank you very much, indeed. i want to bring in israel special envoy joining me now. i want to talk about the hostages in gaza. how do you get them out in. >> i just want to follow up on what was just said. it's very important that we understand there is a flow of people coming in to israel as well. there's 150% conscription rate

of soldiers that are showing up and saying we want to fight. and it's very important that we note that the civilian population has been under consistent war since haas saturday, october 7th, which we will never forget. there have been thousands, over 600, 700 rockets that have been. stuart: and israeli youngsters are responding, joining the idf and fighting. that's a very important point. >> it's very important. -- important. and i want to it's not just whoever is going to the front, the entire country is deploy. young kids, parents, everybody that can -- all a hands on deck in hospitals, cemeteries, bodies need to be identified, need to be buried, immediate to be prepared. there is -- need to be prepared. there is a war raging in israel. i myself have three soldiers currently in this war. and i came to be able to make accessible to the audiences that are watching us, this is a war. it's an onslaught on

civilization. on our shared humanity by genocidal a terror. there are no other terms with which we can speak about this. and, of course, part of that, raping and pillaging and abduction and what has resulted in 199 hostages, many of them foreign citizens as well. stuart: i want to play a sound bite from an a interview we did earlier this morning. can you put that on the screen, please? we interviewed a young soldier in the idf, and and he went -- i asked him to describe what did he see when he arrived at the kibbutz where one of the massacres had occurred. roll tape, please. >> the babies were in the body bags, and later that day as we walked around we could see the scenes, you know, puddles of blood in the babies' beds, completely bloodied teddy bears. they were shot while they were hugging their teddy bear. there really is no excuse, to defend anything like that and say it's made up, say it's a.i.

generated, where is the humanity in that? to defend these terrorists and these acts that have taken place of terror. stuart: i know this is upsetting, but i wanted to play it because so many people that we have talked to in new york city say that's just not true. that never happened. it's a lie. you made it up. respond, please. >> it's critical to show it. i want to tell you that today 20 bodies of children that were piled up is and tied together and then burned were identified for 20 different names, each on- stuart: and that is real. >> real. i want to tell you about a parent and child that were burned in their bomb shelter because we're taught every time there's an incoming rocket launched at civilians, 6,600 double war crimes, each time there's an incoming rocket, we go into shelters. those shelters were burped by these savages, and a parent hugging a child burned to death

in their own shelter. they were found this morning. and i want to respond to what you just showed and spoke about, the denial or the excusing or the justification that we see on the streets and on the campuses of new york -- stuart: may i ask a very difficult question? having seen and heard this, would it be true to say that israel is looking for revenge? >> absolutely not. israel does not look for revenge. israel looks to defend, as any country must, her boards -- borders and her civilians. this is not about revenge, this is about a war of genocidal terror. and what we see in the denial you spoke about or the justification of what we see in that genocidal terror right here in new york or on cam campuses is precisely the anti-semitism that has fueled and enabled this savagery that is actually in hamas' charter, the annihilation of the state of israel, the murder of jews just like "mein kampf". and i want to remind us that we

have all committed to never again. and never again is right now. never again for the whole world is never again not to stand the idly by and make false moral equivalencies between hamas and israel. stuart: will president biden help you by going to israel tomorrow? >> you have to make sure that he does. the american public has to make sure that whatever the constraints of the president is, and there are many calculations, there are many people boots on the ground right here in this war on civilization. it is important that we held our governments to account. it is important that we make demands of them, not to make false moral equivalencies that only empowerren genocidal terror organizations. and we should be very clear this is not just about a israel that it seeks to annihilate, just about jews or holocaust survivors. and i remind us there are also american citizens there. it is actually an assault on our shared humanity. stuart: i think you've made your point very well and forcefully,

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stuart: to the autoworkers ' strike, ford's executive chair says the company's future is at stake. jeff flock in pennsylvania. is the uaw threatening to shut down more ford factories? >> reporter: yes, they did, sir. yeah. the comments made at the famed rouge factory, dating all the way back to the mold model a and model t. that's where he made his speech. he seemed really stung personally by the strike, the great grandson of henry ford. he said yesterday this is an exception ten, threat, in this strike is, to u.s. automakers, ford, gm as well as stellantis. here's how he put it. >> we're at a cross roads. choosing the right path isn't just about ford's future can and our ability to compete. this is about the future of the

american automobile industry. the uaw leaders have called us the enemy in these negotiations. but i will never consider our employees as a enemies. >> reporter: maybe not enemies, stuart, but here's how the uaw responded: bill ford knows exactly how to settle this strike. instead of threatening to close the rouge, he should call jim farley, ford's ceo, and tell him to stop playing games and get a deal done, or we'll close the rouge for him. take a look at the latest numbers on losses, the big three, $3.5 billion so far. suppliers, $2.5 billion. dealers and customers, over a billion, and the workers themselves a little less than half a billion in wages. layoffs are at about 7,000 at ford, gm and stellantis as a result of this strike. and bill ford yesterday tried to kind of, i think, do an end-around a shawn fein, the uaw president.

listen to his appeal. >> i call on my great uaw colleagues, some of whom i've known for decades, many are close personal friends, we need to come together to bring an end to this acrimonious round of talks. >> reporter: and, stuart, the strategy seems to be that the uaw would like the get a great contract from gm, ford and stellantis, and if they do, they can go to the non-union i automakers like tesla and toyota and say, hey, maybe you guys better go union. we'll squeeze them too for you. not a bad strategy even if you don't like it. mr. veryny? [laughter] stuart: it might work, you know? thanks, jeff. come on in, ashley. tell me about the tentative deal between kaiser permanente and the health care workers. ashley: yeah. more positive muse on this strike. -- news on this strike. under a tentative agreement, reports say california workers will receive a minimum hourly wage of $25.

that, by the way, is where most of kaiser's facilities are located. workers elsewhere will be paid $23 an hour. in addition, they will see a 21% wage increase over 4 years. now the author has to be ratified this week by kaiser permanente labor unions who represent 85,000 health care workers. the largest health care labor dispute in u.s. history, as it's being called, lasted just three days and involved everyone from e.r. technicians to farm sis. -- pharmacists. by the way, they say this new deal would not affect patient rates. as we don't like to say on tv, only time will tell. [laughter] stuart: good one. coming up, vice president harris is at a northern arizona university today. it's the eighth top in her college tour, but she's avoiding any mention of the anti-israel protests taking place on campuses across the country. grady trimble will have that story next. ♪ ♪

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stuart: vice president harris is making the eighth stop of her college tour. she's at northern arizona university today. gradety trimble is there. the -- grady trimble is there. the vice president hasn't yet responded to the anti-israel protests on campuses. is she avoiding it deliberately? >> reporter: it seems that way, stu, because she was at a stop on this college campus tour just a few days ago and did not bring up the protests on college campuses that are happening across the country. we should point out, as you know, colleges and universities have really become an epicenter for these pro-palestine and in some cases anti-israel protests and sentiment across the united states. in the days after the hamas attacks, our researchers have counted more than two dozen proprotests at universities frok to louisville to seattle not condemning the terrorist organization, but showing support for palestine, sometimes blaming israel. >> you do not have a first amendment right to argue on

behalf of a terrorist organization in this country, one that not only has committed violation, but has pledged to commitment commit even more violence in the future. >> reporter: and these colleges could take a huge financial hit if they don't push back against their students. by one estimate, ivy league schools alone stand to lose almost half a billion dollars, that's because major donors like former u.s. ambassador jon huntsman jr. and citadel founder ken griffin have either stopped give donations or threatened to. to be clear, on northern arizona university where vice president harris will speak later today, we're not awe ware of any pro-palestine protests. but the vp, as you mentioned, is on this wide-ranging college tour right now, and there's a kiss connect between the biden administration's -- disconnect between the biden administration's support of israel and some college students, some of whom say it's israel's fault they've been attacked. we have reached out to the vice president's office, stu, to see if she'll bring it up today.

we have not heard back, and if what we've been toll so far from her office a, we don't expect it to be a topic of conversation on this campus. stuart: don't hold your breath. all right, dividety, thanks very much, indeed. interesting story here, more companies are eliminating college degrees as a requirement for employment. new york post columnist rikki schlott is here. i like this because i think we're overcredentialed. i don't think you media college degreed job for some of the jobs out there. what say you? >> absolutely. ibm, tesla, google, we have some huge names making this move. in fact, a recent survey of hr professionals found that 53% of companies have reduced college degree requirements in at least some roles which i think, i completely agree with you as someone who didn't finish college actually personally, i've had the foundation for individual rights and expression literally changed their rule on the books to hire me because they realized it wasn't logical can. stuart: okay. are they doing this because they can't find enough workers, so you lower the standards to bring more people in, or do they

genuinely think you don't need a college degree for that? >> i would like to attest that they haven't lowered their standards -- [laughter] stuart: sorry about that. >> i'm hard to offend. there are 4 million fewer college students than pre-pandemic, and i think that's a really important thing to realize. these are young people growing up in a context where they see millennials saddled with debt, really weird, woke stuff happening on campuses, and they think to themselves, is this actually worth it or are there employers who might realize that i did my own thing and more power to you? stawrt tooth change the subject. our own lawrence jones spoke with pro-a palestine students at georgetown university: watch this, please. roll it. >> do you feel like israel is the aggress to have can -- aggressor in this situation? >> if we step back before the hamas attack, i think israel that has a lot to be condemned about. >> they have been creating the

people in -- treating the people many gaza like they're not humans. >> regarding your question about killing babies and raping women, i don't think that's true because i didn't see a glimpse in footage or a document showing that. >> do you feel like that's disinformation? >> yeah, definitely. stuart: we just had an a israeli soldier who was at the kibbutz. he saw the babies in body bags. how can anybody defend seriously and say it's just not true, it's all lies? how can you say that when the evidence is obvious in. >> you know, i think a lot of this comes from growing up with social media, because i'm the same age probably roughly as these kids, and when you're just pummel with the 24-hour news cycle, you see very conflicting realities unfold. when i go through my instagram stories of friends throughout my high school and college years, it's like israel, palestine. like, two separate, completely different worlds. this is a generation of kids who to into these rabbit holes so

early and lose sense of all reality to the point where they're excusing horrific atrocities like those students just did. stuart: you've got a new book, and it's come out today, i believe. >> indeed. stuart: canceling of the american mind. 20 seconds to make your pitch. >> 82% of the american public say cancel cull cher's a problem, and yet the small minority of very squeaky wheels are ruining it for the rest of us. if we actually want to solve problems in the world, we need to talk about the sensitive issues in good faith. stuart: you gave me the book next week with, i shall read it. and i want you to stick around for the tuesday trivia question. when did the western roman empire fall? you know what this is all about. when did you last think of the row mono'em pair? -- empiresome you know this is coming. the answer when we come back. ♪ ♪

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stuart: when did the western roman empire fall? murphy. >> i will go 510. stuart: 510 says murph. ashley? ashley: now i am thinking about the roman empire. number 2. 476. stuart: ricky? >> i will say 2.

stuart: i will say two as well, 476. the answer is correct, 476. the largest in 117 a.d. it span north america, western asia, etc. . how often do you think about the roman empire on a daily basis? >> every other day. stuart: i do not believe that. why? >> it is instructive to understand how successful societies find crumble. stuart: the roman empire doesn't just pop into your head? do you ever think about the roman empire? >> never. stuart: nor me. "varney and company" is done for the day but if you stay tuned, you will see magically appear on your screens, 321, coast-to-coast starts now. david: day 11 of war in the middle east, as clatters