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>> i was buying stocks all morning today. i was more bullish. economy is much stronger than people predicted. everyone expected we would be in a recession. earnings and i correct blow out numbers from lots of companies and lots of industries, especially consumer discretionary. we've been whacked over the head for two years by jerome powell. we are going strong. maybe we have no landing yet in the economy but that is actually good news. we've seen all the negative of haier rates but we haven't seen the positive of higher earnings. liz: everybody should strap themselves in. [closing bell ridges] liz: jay powell speaks tomorrow at the economic club much new york. we have michael pachter tomorrow to break down netflix earnings reports and. more. ♪ larry: hello, folks, welcome to
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"kudlow," i'm larry kudlow. day 12 of the barbaric hamas terror attack on israel. the focus on a rocket strike that destroyed a crowded hospital in gaza city yesterday as evidence she is it was caused by an islamic jihad missile aligned with hamas, not israel. fox news's jonathan hunt live from los angeles with all the details. jonathan, this is quite a story. >> reporter: yeah, larry are, so the question is, do we know with 100% certainty the source of this explosion? the answer is no, frankly, we don't. we might never be 100% certain given the fog of war that surrounds these things but two points i want to make here. one, president biden was confident enough to weigh in on this and say he believed it was indeed islamic jihad. that was based on u.s. intelligence analysis. and two, hamas while claiming israel carried out the strike has offered no physical evident
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of such a strike. one would imagine they would be quick to parade pieces of shrapnel for instance from israeli munitions if they had such evidence. israel on the other hand has offered satellite video and awed quote evidence they say proves this was a rocket fired by islamic jihad in gaza. they say the rocket malfunctioned, fell directly onto the hospital, still fully loaded with fuel because it hadn't traveled far, and that is what sparked the huge explosion. israel also released what officials say is audio of a information between hamas and islamic jihad members discussing the alleged misfire here. listen? [speaking foreign language. the]
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>> reporter: as i mentioned, president biden after meeting with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu today said u.s. intelligence has anized the evidence, and result he president biden agrees with the is israeli assessment. listen again. president biden: i was outraged and saddened by the enormous loss of life at the hospital in gaza. based on information we seen today, appears a errant rocket fired by a terrorist group on gaza. >> reporter: we've seen new video today of the blast area. it is nightable, larry, as you look at this, there is no discernible crater there. you would expect that if indeed was an israeli strike. what you see are a lot of charred vehicles that would also back up the israeli claim this was essentially fireball, rather than a huge israeli missile creating the crimed of crater we would expect. i would also point out, larry, we haven't seen any video that would even back the claims of hundreds of dead.
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we see self people being loaded into ambulances but not hundreds. all of these are things you would expect hamas to show extensively if they had the evidence. now i'm not a munitions expert, larry, nor am i on the ground on this occasion but i have been in gaza many times over the last 20 years. i've witnessed the aftermath of perhaps dozens of israeli airstrikes and i have to say, looking at that video, what we have seen so far, on the face of it, at least, it does not bear the hallmarks of an israeli airstrike, larry. larry: jonathan, just quick, some reports are suggesting it didn't actually hit the hospital but it hit the parking lot and as you suggested the casualty rate is way, way, way lower than originally reported? >> reporter: yeah, it would, from the evidence that we can see, larry, i have to emphasize that, from the evidence we can see and have seen it doesn't seem that the hamas claim of 500
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or so dead has any proof to it at this point. and as you look again what is the parking area outside of that hospital you don't either see any pancaked building f this was israeli airstrike the whole building around there would be pancaked down on itself. we're not seeing that in that video at least, larry. larry: jonathan hunt, thank you ever so much, great reporting. we really appreciate it. >> reporter: sure. larry: just a brief riff tonight because we've got senator tom cotton waiting in the wings, all right? janet yellen's treasury department announced today that the u.s. has issued sanctions aimed at disrupting funding for the hamas terrorist group after its barbaric attack on israel last october 7th. sanctions include 10 senior members and quote financial facilitators of the hamas terrorist group, as well as roughly 1000 individuals and entities connected to iranian terror financing.
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the 10 individuals related to hamas are based in gaza, qatar, turkey, algeria and sudan. the sanctions struck hamas, hezbollah, and other terror organizations in the middle east. senior treasury official labeled them part of a quote, massive financial networks. according to the treasury press release, janet yellen says the united states is taking swift and decisive action to attack hamas's financiers and facilitators following up down shunnable massacre of israeli civilians including children. my first response, okay, that's good, better late than never. my second response is baloney. this is purely a defensive backpedaling manuever after across the board criticism leveled at the administration that it has not beefed up iranian sanctions, not defunded iran, indeed has not even
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executed the iranian sanctions in years. this is the biden administration running scared. they're trying to blow smoke at everybody now. the sanctioning thousands of people which is almost like sanctioning no one. there is one country not on the list of sanctions today, iran. last week janet yellen said iranian sanctions have never been relaxed but everybody knows the facts speak otherwise. over the past three years iran's oil revenues, foreign exchange currencies, energy sales to china, all of them have skyrocketed. the maximum sanctioning campaign during the donald trump years that bankrupted iran and stopped their oil production sales has been abandoned by the bidens. that's what the facts say. also, i asked, does iran not qualify as a financial facilitator, really? i'd say iran is the financial
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facilitator. add to that, master planner and chief puppeteer of hamas, hezbollah, islamic jihad and the other terror groups that are sponsored by iran. you know, if the bidens ever got serious about maximum economic banking, energy and business sanctions on iran, on iranian shipments, on iranian individuals and entities they would return to bankruptcy which is where donald trump left them. then the money financing hamas and all the terror groups would dry up. if president biden truly wants to totally support israel, first up, he should let the idf do what it is going to do and second, bankrupt iran through serious sanction enforcement. i don't want to make this any harder than it needs to be. all right, that is my my riff. now we turn to the aforementioned senator tom cotton of talk saw.
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take a listen, please. so after the news report on the hospital attack which seems to be now pretty clear it came from hamas or islamic jihad we go right to senator tom cotton from the great state of arkansas, member of the senate armed services committee. senator cotton, welcome back to the show. are you satisfied now, you heard all the evidence i suppose? it seems like it came from the terrorists, do you have any earns concerns about it? >> larry i was satisfied yesterday in the immediate aftermath of this strike. israel doesn't strike civilian targets. doesn't strike hospitals without clear military necessity. that is the tactics hamas uses. ones the israeli defense forces released video of terrorists in gaza, firing rockets next to the hospital and intercepts of them discussing it, corroborated by american intelligence agencies, there is no question that terrorists in gaza were
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responsible for the deaths at this hospital, as is often the case because they use hospitals and schools and mosques as military targets or they have total indifference to operate next to those otherwise protected sites. there is no question, larry, that there is two sides of war crimes here. hamas is committing war crimes in israel and hamas is committing war crimes in gaza. larry: i was going to ask you, hamas has a whole history of this. rocket launchers right next to schools, hospitals, and so forth. churches, mosques. the complete disregard for civilians, utter disregard for civilian life of any kind. there is also some talk, senator, that buried underneath the hospital, they have done this with schools, they have various armaments and munitions, they hid them right there in those sensitive civilian areas? >> well it wouldn't be surprising, larry, because as you say there is a long history
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of hamas and other terrorists dedicated to the destruction of israel using the most sensitive civilian sites like hospitals, like schools, like mosques to fire weapons, to cache weapons, use for command-and-control facilities. those are used within that way are legitimate military targets. here it was simply goes indifference to life terrorists have to rockets meant to be shot in israel in an effort to kill jews that killed many of their own people. larry: senator cotton, let me come back home because you've been a strong spokesperson, you may have legislation, immediate deportation of any foreign nationals that support hamas. i don't know how far it goes, whether hamas or other terrorist groups. can you tell you about that? is that a piece of legislation? can it be done by executive order? what are you thinking, sir? >> no, it is not legislation, larry, because the law already
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makes support for terrorist activities or groups grounds for inadmissibility in the country, or, deportation for any foreign national in the country. american citizen has a first amendment right to make a fool of himself. we're engaged in morally depraved speech but no foreigner here does and we should not allow people who are here by the grace of our country advocating for hamas, defending its massacre of women, children, elderly necessary rail to stay here for another day. joe biden and the secretary of homeland security, alejandro mayorkas should take immediate action to finding people who are advocating and defending hamas and should remove them immediately. we wouldn't have allowed this kind of fifth column in the cold war, we shouldn't allow it now. larry: senator, speaking of the fifth column would you include other terrorist groups or let me say all other terrorist groups? >> of course, larry. we should never allow someone
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hoe advocates for terrorism or terrorists into our country, again, throughout the cold war support for communism or the communist party was ground for inadmissibility or deportation to the country. the same thing should be the case for advocacy for any kind of terrorist organization or terrorist group. larry: this is, isn't this, senator, isn't this what trump did a couple years back? >> well he took various actions to protect the country from terrorism. for instance, imposing bans on travel from countries that have known terrorism problems for which there is no effective government for which we can vet the backgrounds of people entering the country. or offering, using this exact kind of statutory authority to prevent terrorist sympathizers from entering the country. he certainly helped close our border to insure that we didn't have potential terrorists entering our country. right now we have no clue the risks we might have coming across our southern border.
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larry: so, senator, let's go back to the middle east problem. the administration today announced a whole series of sanctions on hamas, hamas leaders. i think some of it is going into qatar, turkey, and so forth. you know, i just thinking, sir, like, i'm okay with sanctioning hamas, you know, tough sanctions, maximum sanctions, but they kind of left out a country that has escaped sanctions in the last couple of years. i have guess i will just say it, iran. why is it they're going after hamas, okay, fine, i'm good with that, but why don't they reimpose tough maximum sanctions on iran which is the troublemaker, the financeer, the puppeteer and the master planner? i don't get it, senator. >> you're right about iran's role in supporting hamas. hamas would not exist as a military and terror entity
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without iran bankrolling, financing it, training its fighters and so forth. it is not just, larry they don't impose new sanctions on iran, today, believe it or not, is the day that multilateral sanctions on iran's missile program expired under the failed nuclear deal. that's right, this day, eight years later, is the day that multihat ral sanctions on iran ace missile program which they're currently using to help russia kill ukrainians expired because joe biden, even after this massacre in israel would not reimpose those multilateral sanctions through the united nations and the reason they don't do it, larry it would be an indictment of 11 years of the failed obama-biden iran policy. larry: so did you see blinken, the state department put out a long thing about sanctions on the ballistic missiles and the u.n. i guess there is u.n.
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inspection. i haven't read all of it. maybe you have seen it. my question to you is, they have re-upped it today, the last day as you point out. are you satisfied with it? does this work? >> no, not at all, larry, because the sanctions they're talking about are national sanctions that we can impose or that european nations can impose. there is nothing to stop those nations to include the biden administration from changing their tune later. these multilateral sanctions that could have been imposed under the nuclear deal at the united nations were one thing that could have bound sanctions, worldwide against iran. so, no, i do not accept that as satisfactory. in fact it is just another example of how president biden has emboldened iran to think they can get away with backing hamas as they undertake the kind of terrorist atrocity we saw a few days ago in israel. larry: can there be hearings on this, on the flaws in this
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thing? because this is a gigantic issu. i don't think most people were aware of it. we discovered it a couple days ago. i asks some of your colleagues about it. this is enormous thing, sanctioning on ballistic missiles. energy and economic sanctions is there some way to have a a partisan, democrats right now are talking a good game, somehow bipartisan reimposition of secondary and primary sanctions on iran? it is the ballistic missile sanctions economic and energy business sanctions? iran is the culprit. hamas, yes of course, but iran stands behind everything as you just said? >> larry unfortunately congress in bipartisan fashion could throw the kitchen sink at iran but if president biden refuses to enforce the sanctions they won't be very effective.
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we have sanctions in place for iran on the sealed of oil yet the biden administration has not vigorously enforced those sanctions for the last three years enriching iran to the tune of tens of billions of dollars. and guess where most of that oil goes, larry? it goes to china, our number one enemy in the world. this all gets back to president biden east continuation of barack obama's failed iran policy which has done nothing but to embolden iran to spread a campaign of terror around the middle east. larry: all right, senator tom cotton we appreciate your time and your point of view, sir. thank you ever so much. >> thank you, larry. larry: you bet. all right, there you have it, coming up president biden's wheels up on his way to the united states. so is it time for the idf invasion of gaza on the ground? we're going to ask israeli special-ops veteran aaron cohen when "kudlow" returns. ♪. on.
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♪. larry: so president biden's wheels are up. he has spent less than 24 hours in israel. now the question is this the time for the idf ground invasion into gaza? joining us now, aaron cohen, former member of israel special operations counter-terrorist unit.
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aaron, welcome back as always. aaron, maybe i'm wrong, but i think the idf held up on the ground for the trump meeting and humanitarian aid. i want to talk about that in a second but my question is, how quickly do you think the ground assault will begin? >> larry, it will begin as quickly as it has to. right now i really don't think that politics or politicking is going to have as big of an effect as people think and the reason why, excuse me, the reason why i say that is because these operations are in our hands. we need to make sure that we've got all of the information to be able to move forward with. last time we spoke there are two major things unpacking here. we've got hostages first and foremost. they may be held in tunnels. fun medicals are very complicated. takes time to get that information. osmosis, listening to intelligence, thousands of phone calls. our pegasus system we invented
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we're listening everywhere, not just in gaza around the world. unconventional operations, custom built plan, that is number one, hostages, getting all the intel we need to actualize that information for a assault, multiple assaults for multiple occasions to the incursion. we've got the entire strip of sphwaz sachs larry, contained right now. we're not in a rush. the hostages are are the issue. any moment they could start being killed. when they start getting fired at, if they're alive, larry, i don't have that information have got to go and do action immediately. as far as going in there getting into gunfights with 40,000 hamas terrorists. shut the power off, tire them out. tired terrorists don't shoot straight. we take time with that if they want to tie politics with that, i don't get into politics, larry, it is not interesting to me, but it is okay for us to buy time but a time is a friend of
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counterterrorism when it comes to non-hostage related responses so let's take our time, slow things down and let's tire out hamas. it is okay. we'll wait. larry: listen, you're the guide here aaron. i know nothing. you're the guide and i appreciate what you're saying. let me ask you a related subject but an important one. all this talk, joe biden, antony blinken, apparently extracted a promise from prime minister netanyahu and his war cabinet about humanitarian assistance. everybody is talking about humanitarian assistance. humanitarian assistance always sounds like a great idea but, aaron, here is what people are telling me and reporting to me. humanitarian assistance whether it comes across the line, egyptians, has 100 trucks will cross the line at rafah or whatever, all that stuff will be run by hamas. hamas runs the ministries. hamas steals from the u.n. in fact the u.n. had a tweet up that said hamas was stealing stuff, diesel fuel and what not.
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then they took the tweet down because a lot of the u.n. relief people are pro-hamas. i'm worried. i'm for humanitarian aid. i would love to see the idf run humanitarian aid so it might actually get to palestinians and other civilians that need it but humanitarian aid, hamas, i don't know what do you think? i think it is a scam. >> i think it is a scam too. larry: good. >> i think this, i think it is a lot of talk and posturing right now. there is a lot of, a lot of double standards when it comes to israel. everyone was with us a couple days. all of sudden now we're talking about the palestinians and, the hospital that was hit last night and you know, and i can pontificate to explain that to every audience across the world. we don't have to sell the images that we saw, here is the truth, you nailed it. hamas is a terrorist group. they will use the humanitarian situation to create more terror. use it as a shield as a package. we're not going to allow public relations nonsense, talk, gibberish anything that will
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affect our operational goals right now which is hostages and potential incursion. it could be the next hour. we don't know. anything that will affect our ability to keep our soldiers safe hi going into a very aggressive fight in tunnels, larry, house to house, will be blood i did, it will be messy. we're not playing and right now. the gloves are off. people can talk all day long. it is time to get focused keep preparing and planning what we're doing. larry: yes, sir. i'm thrilled with me you agreed about the humanitarian. i will teen out on this. aaron cohen afriday with me about humanitarian assistance. >> we park our cars in the same garage. larry: you are terrific, aaron cohen. hope you come back real soon. >> always. larry: coming up more latest on the ground from israel with our own john roberts from jerusalem jerusalem. former ambassador michael oren should israel go after hezbollah first?
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♪. larry: joining us live from jerusalem, john roberts coanchor of "america reports." john, what have you got for us? thank you. >> larry, good to see you this evening. i guess the big question in israel now is what comes next with president biden flying back to the united states. he had a series of meetings with benjamin netanyahu. addressed the american people and said that the united states stands fully behind israel but he also wants to make sure that humanitarian aid gets to the palestinians in gaza who are suffering because of the evacuations and the fact no aid has been getting too them. $100 million in u.s. taxpayer funds he plans to commit to that. the next big question will there be a ground war?
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i spoke to somebody earlier as former national security advisor here in israel, general island, who agrees with aaron cohen that there is no rush, larry to get in on the ground in that hornets nest in gaza city that is probably better for the idf to continue hitting hamas targets. you degrade the enemy. you can win with all the ground softened up. what happens with hezbollah on the northern border is another big question as well. there has been skirmishes over the last 12 days. small-arms fire, anti-tank missiles have been fired a few other projectiles. two kilometer area of the northern border is evacuated. does hezbollah go all-in, reach into 150,000 deep missile silo and start firing rockets at israel. again the general that i spoke with believes that hamas, rather hezbollah does not have immediate interest in igniting a
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full-out war with israel but it also doesn't want to be seen sitting back to let hamas twist in the wind. so it is keeping the idf busy in the north. with that hospital explosion last night, clearly looking, according to the bulk of the evidence that president biden has seen, that the u.s. developed as a mall functioning islamic jihad rocket it really calls into question, larry, how so many news organizations around the world and how organizations like the united nations immediately took hamas, a terrorist organization, at its word and pounced on israel? i think there is probably going to be a lot of navel gazing, why people looked at this organization that launched this horrific attack 12 days ago, it must be the truth. larry: john, you know the answer to that. i know the answer to that we don't have enough time.
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it is a whole news segment. when you come back home we will talk about that one. that answer is too easy. you're the best of the best. john and coanchor sandra smith, "america reports" every day 1:00 p.m. eastern on fox news. let's bring in michael oren, former israeli ambassador to the united states. michael, thanks for doing this. you told our beloved jon roberts maybe the israelis should go into lebanon, go get hezbollah first? i must say that is a contrary point of view but i'm dying to hear it. >> that is what i like to do, larry, contrary views, not bad shaking up it was article i published in the hebrew press. english version is available on my substack called clarity. it says the following. hamas is trapped. hamas is not going anywhere. we can continue to hit hamas
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from the air, the ground, the sea, leave them digging deeper underground, leave them for a later stage. hezbollah has 15 times as many rockets than hamas has. 150,000 rockets, larry, many are accurate, long-range, bigger payloads in these rockets. hamas, hezbollah has unlimited supply lines, unlimited manueverrability and hamas has a trained group of terrorists which is larger than hamas' group. these terrorists have been killing hundreds of thousands of syrians for the last 10 years. so they're very adept at murder. they will do to our population every bit, every amount of ats toties hamas did to our population in the south. we are at maximum mobilization. the idf has called up 360,000 reservists in addition to a standing army of about 100, 125,000. that is about the size of army went into iraq with the coalition in 2003. we may never get at this level
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again. we have two u.s. aircraft carriers and fighter groups off the coast of lebanon and hezbollah, hezbollah has amassed this arsenal to use it. it will use it at a time of its choosing. there's a growing conventional wisdom here among expert on our affairs when israel is on the verge of he collapsing hamas, when the last of the hamas leaders are trapped in their headquarters under some hospital because that is where their headquarters are under hospitals and schools, that is when hezbollah will act. hezbollah will not be able to sit by passively while sunni terrorists take on the jews and shiite terrorists do nothing. they will have no legitimacy after that. so the question do we wait for them to fire first or do we take the initiative? there is a counter argument. the counterargument by smashing hamas we may deter hezbollah but i got to say we may not. as we've seen the terrorists
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don't actually act according to western logic and benefit and, and the cost benefit analysis is very different for these people. so we don't know. it is a huge, huge, gamble. larry: michael, look it, i don't want to agree or disagree. you're the expert. i'm sure not. i just, the only question i have is, are you convinced, if the idf stays at gaza and the south goes after them on the ground and so forth, so on, do you think hezbollah, do you think iran, which is what we are really asking, but iran and hezbollah want a full-scale hezbollah invasion of israel? do you think that is what they want? >> i don't think the word want is relevant here. it is what they have to do, what they may be forced to do it. larry: i was going to say, or would israel be forcing them into it, i guess that was the back part but please continue? >> i don't even think israel would be forcing them into. i think their own sick world
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will be forcing into it. a sick world where, keep in mind hamas is sunni organization. hezbollah and iran are shiite. it is about the dominance of the muslim world. you cannot dominate the muslim world if sunnies are doing all the fighting for the return of the caliphate and shiites are not doing anything that could force them into a battle. that is not my opinion. a opinion of growing number of experts on our affairs here. larry: michael oren, i want to read the substack piece. good to see you again by the way. thanks for coming on. hope you come back soon. folks, joining me on set the great kellyanne conway, former counselor to president trump, president of ka consulting, fox news contributor, author of here's the deal. kellyanne, welcome. we're wall-to-wall war. you know you read trump's op-ed piece in "newsweek." it was a very good piece. the middle east has blown up. it has blown up.
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no one knows how this will end. no one knows how it will be fought but it's blown up. when trump left it was a peaceful region. iran was bankrupt. abraham accords. gulf states coming to make peace with israel. moved the embassy to jerusalem. in two two and a half years biden undid the entire level of peace trump laid in the middle east. it is astonishing. >> there are consequences to action and inaction. larry i thought the most important piece of president trump's op-ed in "newsweek" where everyone can access, talking about when he left office, iran was pleading desperate to make deals. how did that happen? it is causation, not coincidence. from day one of the trump administration, iran you will not do business with us. warned countries like china if you buy oil from iran you will
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not do business with the united states of america. so they were desperate for cash and to make a deal. biden came in and by may of 2021 had reversed all of that. so iran has been stockpiling oil wealth estimated to be $80 billion. they generate -- larry: every, every single day. >> i want people to understand. you're watching this program. you're familiar and upset with rightfully so biden spitefully came in killed those keystone pipeline jobs here in the u.s. what was going on at the same time? he is allowing iran to produce oil and they're funding this war. also i just want to point out the new polls are out today, rival network, but important poll, highest disapproval of biden and second highest approval but most importantly 63% disapprove on economy. as he is in the middle east, 60% disapprove on foreign policy. vice president eight years, former chairman of the foreign relations committee, currently the president. the lack of trust and faith
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people have in joe biden's acuity, ability to be strong, not weak is coasting him now but costing us now. yes we all believe in strength through peace. reagan's doctrine, trump doctrine. but peace must also come this strength. i keep hearing about moral clarity. make no mistake there is immoral clarity from the hamas and terrorists a lot of moral equivalence of their apologists in the united states. larry: we literally let iran get away with murder. yellen gets out there last week, oh, we didn't loosen up the sanctions. of course they did. >> one of their priorities. larry: i have cited numbers every day this week. of course they did. why would they lie to us? it is likelying on the economy. likelying on inflation. come on -- >> they hope people because they're not named trump you will believe them. they are so clouded by their der ringment and hatred toward one man who made the region peaceful by extension our nation peaceful they think -- look at jake
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sullivan right before the attack of october 7th, it hasn't been this peace and quiet in the region. this is what top administration officials, senate confirmed officials who are in charge of our security and prosperity are saying. larry: there was peace and quiet in that region, there was peace and quiet in that region almost thee years ago. >> yes. there will be again. i'm convinced of it. this will cost biden. larry: kellyanne conway, i'm sorry we're on a tight leash. >> thank you. larry: folks coming up senators demanding answers on iranian cutouts. this is another story. this is al girl hiss redux. senator bill hagerty is one of them will join us. where is chuck schumer around democrats on a bipartisan bill reimposing sanctions on iran what kellyanne conway is talking about. we will ask senator kevin cramer. i'm kudlow. we can get back to peace in the middle east with strength. kellyanne is right.
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♪. larry: all right, very graciously and kindly, joining us now tennessee senator bill hagerty and north dakota senator kevin cramer. fellows, i can't thank you you have enough because we're on a short leash with all the war coverage, thank you. senator hagerty, want to start
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with you, this iran cutout, iranian spy ring, iranian influence ring. i know you have been looking at this story. >> yeah. larry: robert malley lost his state department security clearance. no one will tell us why. his person tabatabai started at state, now the chief of staff to the defense department serves sanity secretary of special operations. what is up with this, senator hagerty? >> clearly it is an iranian influence operation active inside of this administration. can you imagine under the trump administration, that we both serve something like this could ever materialize? rob malley, special negotiated the jcpoa under obama. malley has lost security clearance. been suspended from the state department. under federal investigation. tied to the chief of staff after the department of defense. now she has been one of those members he put into the dod. this is deeply, deeply concerning. you can thank rob malley for
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this as well. today the united nations sank sanctions on iran permanently expired. this was negotiated by rob malley. these expired. these were multilateral sanctions. they would have had much more effective step if they snap them back. we should snap back every sanctioning against iran. rob malley has a lot of blood on his hands. larry: that is a key point a key point on this missile, ballistic missile sanctions. senator cramer, again i want to thank you both of you coming on together so we can do this properly. senator cramer, i'm still, treasury department, badens announced today they will sanction thousand people, hamas, qatar, syria, that is great. they're on the defensive because they lifted or relaxed the maximum sanctions on iran. iran is the financeer. senator cramer, is this any
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chance that the democrats will join with republicans in the senate and get something done to reimpose these sanctions on iran? i'm not worried about hamas sanctions. i don't think hamas has money. iran has the money. >> iran and a lot of other partners of iran. this has to be primary and secondary. senator hagerty can speak to this as well as anybody. he went to the floor last night requesting unanimous consent on iran sanctions relief act that would require all sanction relief to come to the congress before they would be enacted. of course democrats objected to that. we had another one, senator cotton made another request yesterday unanimous consent on the floor and democrats objected to that. that would have frozen that $6 billion that we often talk about, which is not a great deal of money but it is a pretty significant symbol how depraved we've become. so i was hopeful there would be some bipartisan support for that. so far not. larry: senator, just to follow up, how can democrats say
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they're 100% for israel, everyone is going to israel, biden went to israel, schumer went to israel and not want to impose maximum sanctions on iran? i don't get it? >> well i think they hate american oil production. larry: go ahead, senator, go ahead, mr. cramer. >> yeah they hate, they hate the domestic oil production so much they would prefer iran and venezuela produce oil and sell it to our adversaries with their poor environmental records than actually have america producing cleaner energy and selling it across the world, around the world. larry: mr. hagerty, are you as pessimistic? joni ernst was on the show last week and she had a bipartisan group and thought maybe something could be done but senator hagerty you think you're not getting anything on iran sanctions? >> we saw a shall lowe set of sanctions you pointed out. these will have no impact. sanctions that the biden allowed
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to expire today on a multilateral basis, secondary sanctions you and i both worked on. you recall when i was ambassador to japan we got the japanese to stop blying iranian crude. those sanctions bite. those matter. that is what the biden administration should do now. this is a smoke screen. joe biden's appearance in israel was just a photo-op. larry: senator cramer, that is bad. this iranian cutout group in the state and defense departments bad. there was peace, i was why just talking to kelly kellyanne conw, there was peace and quiet in the middle east three years ago you now it has completely blown up. last question, senator. >> it began with the iran nuclear deal which was a obama initiative they supported. president trump got rid of. they brought it back. they're trying to do it quietly if they can't do it openly. it is disgusting. larry: gentlemen, you're gracious to help out, appreciate
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your point of view. thank you ever so much. i'm kudlow, will be right back with last with voya, considering all your financial choices word.
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♪ larry: you know, israeli special ops adviser aaron cohen agreed with me, humanitarian aid is hamas aid. why should u.s. taxpayers shoulder that? let the idf run it, if anybody. and new everybody's got to watch liz macdonald. it's mandatory. elizabeth: you're the best, larry. so great.

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